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Ouija Board

Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 00:22
Has anyone ever play with this board? I never played with the Ouija Board, but I've always heard bad stories related to it, so I'm pretty relunlant to try. So, has anyone play Ouija, and do you have any stories?
Call to power
07-09-2006, 00:25
haven’t but I want to

well the guy who used to sit next to me in math apparently did it all the time but never smashed the glass (or something) and he had to move out of his house because of all the pissed off ghosts
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 00:27
haven’t but I want to

well the guy who used to sit next to me in math apparently did it all the time but never smashed the glass (or something) and he had to move out of his house because of all the pissed off ghosts

I always heard that you were susspose to put the pointer on Goodbye, maybe he didn't do that.
Call to power
07-09-2006, 00:30
I always heard that you were susspose to put the pointer on Goodbye, maybe he didn't do that.

either way he's an idiot for doing it alone

I suppose if I ever use a Ouija board it will be one of the time when you just can’t think of anything to say :p
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 00:39
either way he's an idiot for doing it alone

I suppose if I ever use a Ouija board it will be one of the time when you just can’t think of anything to say :p

lol, yea, you should never do it alone.
Vegas-Rex
07-09-2006, 00:54
Ideomotor effect. Fun stuff.
http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/ideomotor%20effect.html
Farflorin
07-09-2006, 00:57
Superstitious tripe.
Call to power
07-09-2006, 01:03
Superstitious tripe.

good fun though
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:06
Only bad story I've ever heard is that it's a waste of money.
Dissonant Cognition
07-09-2006, 01:06
Ideomotor effect. Fun stuff.
http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/ideomotor%20effect.html

With a serving of the Barnum Postulate on the side:

"A fool and his money are soon parted (http://www.hasbro.com/games/default.cfm?page=search&product_id=9470)."
Grangeropolis
07-09-2006, 01:08
I gave one to some kids at my church last year. My pastor was so upset he actually came to my house and preached about witchcraft to me.
Mikesburg
07-09-2006, 01:12
I had friends who swore by the Ouija. You would see them get on it and it would spell all kinds of crazy nonsense. Yet, the moment I put my finger on the thing, it either wouldn't move or would spell gibberish. They tried to tell me it was because I was a 'nega-psychic'. Or it could have been that it's a whole lotta bs...


It's massed produced by Parker Brothers. Think about it.
Naliitr
07-09-2006, 01:13
I gave one to some kids at my church last year. My pastor was so upset he actually came to my house and preached about witchcraft to me.

Ha. Also, where did you come from?
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:19
With a serving of the Barnum Postulate on the side:

"A fool and his money are soon parted (http://www.hasbro.com/games/default.cfm?page=search&product_id=9470)."

Oooooooh! It's glow in the dark!
Mikesburg
07-09-2006, 01:22
Why do ghosts always communicate through the Ouija board? Why not Etch-a-Sketch or Scrabble?

I think I've found my ghostly calling. Well, once walking around in girl's changerooms gets old and stale.
Neb Tsenks
07-09-2006, 01:22
I was talking about this with my girl friends mom the other day she said that she knew a girl that lived across the street that always asked the Ouija for more freedom from her domineering parents. And over time she became more free (Prolly a coincidence), started having sex and doing drugs, that type of shit. And one time when she was over this girls house sleeping over she a face in her mirror, always following her. I'm not sure how true this story is, or howsure the mom is but I'm pretty interested in trying it out now.
Free shepmagans
07-09-2006, 01:22
Oooooooh! It's glow in the dark!

:eek: SHINEY!!!!!!!! *impulse buys 50 million*
Free shepmagans
07-09-2006, 01:23
Why do ghosts always communicate through the Ouija board? Why not Etch-a-Sketch or Scrabble?

I think I've found my ghostly calling. Well, once walking around in girl's changerooms gets old and stale.

So.... never?
New Xero Seven
07-09-2006, 01:25
Never tried. But I want to... but I won't try it at my house...
Mikesburg
07-09-2006, 01:26
So.... never?

I'll just have to haunt the changerooms in hopes that someone brings an Etch-a-Sketch or Scrabble board. I'm hoping for Etch-a-Sketch so I can prove my wicked ghost sketching skills.
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:26
:eek: SHINEY!!!!!!!! *impulse buys 50 million*

Well I just bought 50 million.........and 1!
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:27
Why do ghosts always communicate through the Ouija board? Why not Etch-a-Sketch or Scrabble?

I think I've found my ghostly calling. Well, once walking around in girl's changerooms gets old and stale.

I want ghosts to talk to me through etch-a-sketch!
Free shepmagans
07-09-2006, 01:27
Well I just bought 50 million.........and 1!

I bought a billion of the original though. I win. :p
Free shepmagans
07-09-2006, 01:28
I want ghosts to talk to me through etch-a-sketch!

Seriously, don't mess with this sh*t, what if it's real eh? WHAT THEN?
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:30
Seriously, don't mess with this sh*t, what if it's real eh? WHAT THEN?

Call Ghostbusters!
Mikesburg
07-09-2006, 01:33
Call Ghostbusters!

Can you get a refund from Wal-Mart if Egon blasts your Ouija board with his particle blaster backback thing?
Naliitr
07-09-2006, 01:34
I want ghosts to talk to me through etch-a-sketch!

I can so see that in Scary Movie...
Grainne Ni Malley
07-09-2006, 01:36
I don't put much stock into it, but I've seen a few weird things (or coincidental) regarding the Ouija. My friend and I asked a "spirit" "Where are you?" and it responded "outside" so we looked out her front door and a blackbird was just sitting there staring at us. Another time I was really bored so I tried it by myself (I know everyone says it's stupid to do so, but I didn't think it would truly matter) and a cat I had leapt on my bed and ran sideways across a wall.

One friend said she tried to destroy it, but it wouldn't burn so she threw it in the garbage and found it in the trunk of her car the next day. Most likey she just made that up.
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:37
Can you get a refund from Wal-Mart if Egon blasts your Ouija board with his particle blaster backback thing?

Yeah, and you don't even need a receipt!
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:37
I don't put much stock into it, but I've seen a few weird things (or coincidental) regarding the Ouija. My friend and I asked a "spirit" "Where are you?" and it responded "outside" so we looked out her front door and a blackbird was just sitting there staring at us. Another time I was really bored so I tried it by myself (I know everyone says it's stupid to do so, but I didn't think it would truly matter) and a cat I had leapt on my bed and ran sideways across a wall.

One friend said she tried to destroy it, but it wouldn't burn so she threw it in the garbage and found it in the trunk of her car the next day. Most likey she just made that up.

Made out of asbestos perhaps?
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 01:38
With a serving of the Barnum Postulate on the side:

"A fool and his money are soon parted (http://www.hasbro.com/games/default.cfm?page=search&product_id=9470)."

Why the hell would anyone buy a Ouija board? You can just make one with a plank of wood, a hobby knife/chisel/magic marker, and a piece of glass... ffs.
Smunkeeville
07-09-2006, 01:41
I am not sure what I think about it, my mom used to have one and she and my dad would contact the "spirits" that haunted our house (to be clear, weird stuff happened at the house, but I don't believe it was "haunted by spirits")

I think it's either a stupid board game for slumber parties, or something I don't wish to get involved with, probably both. ;)
New Granada
07-09-2006, 01:41
Has anyone ever play with this board? I never played with the Ouija Board, but I've always heard bad stories related to it, so I'm pretty relunlant to try. So, has anyone play Ouija, and do you have any stories?

I've got a bridge for sale, you interested?
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 01:42
I've got a bridge for sale, you interested?

Ooooh! Oooooh! I'll take ten!
Grainne Ni Malley
07-09-2006, 01:43
Made out of asbestos perhaps?

LOL. I'm pretty sure she was lying, but I won't entirely reject the possibility because I wasn't there.
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 01:45
I am not sure what I think about it, my mom used to have one and she and my dad would contact the "spirits" that haunted our house (to be clear, weird stuff happened at the house, but I don't believe it was "haunted by spirits")

Yeah, it's just a new house... it creaks and groans a lot.

GET OUT!!!

>.>

<.<

Who said that?
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 02:37
Yeah, it's just a new house... it creaks and groans a lot.

GET OUT!!!

>.>

<.<

Who said that?

Nice Amityville quote there.

I don't know what to make of it myself. I've heard one story from my friend that she was playing around with it, and got scared so she took her hand off of the pointer, and it was still moving. I guess the only way to find out if it really works or not is to try it for myself. Not in my house though.
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 02:44
Nice Amityville quote there.
Amityville? I actually got it from Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby...
:D

I don't know what to make of it myself. I've heard one story from my friend that she was playing around with it, and got scared so she took her hand off of the pointer, and it was still moving. I guess the only way to find out if it really works or not is to try it for myself. Not in my house though.
Meh, half of me thinks it's a crock of shit, and the other half has a hyper-active imagination that keeps me up all night after I see The Ring...
Sel Appa
07-09-2006, 02:45
Has anyone ever play with this board? I never played with the Ouija Board, but I've always heard bad stories related to it, so I'm pretty relunlant to try. So, has anyone play Ouija, and do you have any stories?
I'm agnostic on supernatural phenomenon.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 02:46
I'm agnostic on supernatural phenomenon.

meaning....?
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 02:47
I'm agnostic on supernatural phenomenon.

Well, if you want to stay agnostic, I wouldn't look behind you. (o).(o)
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 02:49
Amityville? I actually got it from Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby...
:D


Meh, half of me thinks it's a crock of shit, and the other half has a hyper-active imagination that keeps me up all night after I see The Ring...

I dunno, I've saw two films that show the piece moving by itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RpQCap6Uw

This one could be debunked as magnet under the table or strings etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5faLCrv89U

Well, it's just too damn dark to see it moving by itself. There are a few places where you can see it fully, but still there's room for debunking.
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 02:53
I dunno, I've saw two films that show the piece moving by itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RpQCap6Uw
Well the poster of the video said this:
"Actually, it is a Halloween prop from the chicago show. Its basically on a wheel and programmed to slide back and forth. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5faLCrv89U

Well, it's just too damn dark to see it moving by itself. There are a few places where you can see it fully, but still there's room for debunking.
It looks like someone offscreen is pulling it or something...
New Granada
07-09-2006, 02:55
I dunno, I've saw two films that show the piece moving by itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RpQCap6Uw

This one could be debunked as magnet under the table or strings etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5faLCrv89U

Well, it's just too damn dark to see it moving by itself. There are a few places where you can see it fully, but still there's room for debunking.

You know they took "gullible" out of the dictionary? I'll prove it, go check!
BackwoodsSquatches
07-09-2006, 02:58
I really dig on the paranormal, and partly becuase I dont have a choice, but I can say that in all confidence, Ouija Boards, are crocks of crap.

In my experience, those things tell you pretty much what you want to hear.
Mainly, becuase you use one with other people, who want to have fun, and its just not any fun, if you dont "talk to the spirits".

They move it, or you do.

It doesnt ever really move on its own.
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 03:00
I really dig on the paranormal, and partly becuase I dont have a choice
Explain?
BackwoodsSquatches
07-09-2006, 03:01
Well the poster of the video said this:
"Actually, it is a Halloween prop from the chicago show. Its basically on a wheel and programmed to slide back and forth. "


It looks like someone offscreen is pulling it or something...


Yah, if you look carefully, you can see the fingers on the right side.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-09-2006, 03:02
Explain?

Some other time maybe.

Suffice it to say, I used to deal with it much more than I do now.
But its something I notice all the time.
Zolworld
07-09-2006, 03:04
Only bad story I've ever heard is that it's a waste of money.

And time. Especially if no one pushes the glass, then its boring too.
Vegas-Rex
07-09-2006, 03:05
I really dig on the paranormal, and partly becuase I dont have a choice, but I can say that in all confidence, Ouija Boards, are crocks of crap.

In my experience, those things tell you pretty much what you want to hear.
Mainly, becuase you use one with other people, who want to have fun, and its just not any fun, if you dont "talk to the spirits".

They move it, or you do.

It doesnt ever really move on its own.

And you might not even be aware that you're moving it. Ideomotor effect.
New Granada
07-09-2006, 03:05
Some other time maybe.

Suffice it to say, I used to deal with it much more than I do now.
But its something I notice all the time.


Did I say one bridge? I actually have 15 bridges and one goes over a lake, and you get the lake for free with that one.
Republica de Tropico
07-09-2006, 03:07
It's fun to play Ouija with people who are really into it and possibly afraid and stuff. Then just subtly move the thing around and make it say vaguely creepy messages, like "PORK RUNS IN THE NIGHT."
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 03:08
Some other time maybe.

Suffice it to say, I used to deal with it much more than I do now.
But its something I notice all the time.

Do you notice... dead people all the time? :eek:


Sorry, I had to say it. :)
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 03:09
It's fun to play Ouija with people who are really into it and possibly afraid and stuff. Then just subtly move the thing around and make it say vaguely creepy messages, like "PORK RUNS IN THE NIGHT."

So that's why my pork rinds keep on dissapearing!
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 03:10
It's fun to play Ouija with people who are really into it and possibly afraid and stuff. Then just subtly move the thing around and make it say vaguely creepy messages, like "PORK RUNS IN THE NIGHT."

Just remember, creeping rusty meat is the heart of all death metal.
[NS:]Harmonia Mortus Redux
07-09-2006, 03:17
Puh-leeze, I think that if 'spirits' do exist they have better things to do than to tell you that 'Jimmy kissed Terry last week! GIGGLE GIGGLE GIGGLE!'
If I was dead and had control of one of those things I would spell out 'penis' over and over, and then make it appear in blood on the wall.
Just imagine the effect THAT would have on a group of 14 year old girls.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 03:19
Harmonia Mortus Redux;11648185']Puh-leeze, I think that if 'spirits' do exist they have better things to do than to tell you that 'Jimmy kissed Terry last week! GIGGLE GIGGLE GIGGLE!'
If I was dead and had control of one of those things I would spell out 'penis' over and over, and then make it appear in blood on the wall.
Just imagine the effect THAT would have on a group of 14 year old girls.

Meh I can do better. I can play mind tricks on them and turn them against one another and watch them kill each other. :D
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 03:22
Harmonia Mortus Redux;11648185']Puh-leeze, I think that if 'spirits' do exist they have better things to do than to tell you that 'Jimmy kissed Terry last week! GIGGLE GIGGLE GIGGLE!'
If I was dead and had control of one of those things I would spell out 'penis' over and over, and then make it appear in blood on the wall.
Just imagine the effect THAT would have on a group of 14 year old girls.

Actually, I would just try to have sex with the 14 year old girls. (I'm still 16, it's not pedophilia!)

"The best thing about high school girls: I decompose, their flesh stays on their bones..."
[NS:]Harmonia Mortus Redux
07-09-2006, 03:23
Its hard to have sex without a body. Unless your a Japanese tentacle ghost, but those only occur in Japan, so you would have to die there.
Liberated New Ireland
07-09-2006, 03:25
Harmonia Mortus Redux;11648228']Its hard to have sex without a body. Unless your a Japanese tentacle ghost, but those only occur in Japan, so you would have to die there.

*packs bags*
Actually, screw it, I'll figure out a way...
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 03:28
Harmonia Mortus Redux;11648228']Its hard to have sex without a body. Unless your a Japanese tentacle ghost, but those only occur in Japan, so you would have to die there.

There are Incubus and Succubus.
[NS:]Harmonia Mortus Redux
07-09-2006, 03:29
There are Incubus and Succubus.

Those are demons, not ghosts. Important differences :P
BackwoodsSquatches
07-09-2006, 03:30
Do you notice... dead people all the time? :eek:


Sorry, I had to say it. :)

HAH.

No.

I would think that would be annoying.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 03:31
HAH.

No.

I would think that would be annoying.

Espically once they become aware that you can see them. It'll be like "Go away, no no, I won't help you right now, Go away, jeez go back to your grave."
Republica de Tropico
07-09-2006, 03:31
There are Incubus and Succubus.

Indeed, but they have bodies.

http://d1event.net/img/creatures/diablo/succubus.gif

And they make sexy little moaning sounds when you kill them.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 03:32
Indeed, but they have bodies.

http://d1event.net/img/creatures/diablo/succubus.gif

And they make sexy little moaning sounds when you kill them.

and people will now become demon slayer just to get arsoual from the sound.
Acqua Pacifica
07-09-2006, 03:37
Just a tip for people who like to experiment with ouiji. You can't just go out and buy a new board from the store and expect it to work. It needs to be one that has been around for a while and 'broken in' already for it to work. Check pawn shops or other similar places.

Another tip, don't do it alone, it is not nearly as fun, and don't do it in your house. Go somewhere abandoned or into a cemetary or some place dark and scary with your friends. Ouiji is alot of fun but only if you use it properly. Dont go pissing off all the supernatural shit, they DO screw back.
Katganistan
07-09-2006, 03:42
meaning....?

He'll believe it when he sees it.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 03:43
He'll believe it when he sees it.

ahh, thanks. lol Yea there is that problem with the Paranormal, so far it can't be produced in labs.
Dissonant Cognition
07-09-2006, 03:49
You can't just go out and buy a new board from the store and expect it to work. It needs to be one that has been around for a while and 'broken in' already for it to work.

How did the boards that have "been around for a while" and are now "broken in" first start working when they were brand new? (edit: I just want to make sure that we aren't just trying to make up silly rules and tips and such in an attempt to fool ourselves into believing that Oujia boards are anything more than just a cheap consumer scam ;) )


Dont go pissing off all the supernatural shit, they DO screw back.

Somebody give me a complete list of everything one could do with a Ouija board to piss off all the bogeymen and such. An experiment is in order.
Angry Fruit Salad
07-09-2006, 03:51
The Ouija board is a toy, and it was intended for amusement only. There are some tricks to it,though. You can actually move the oracle to whatever letter you want, with a little practice of course. It's a great trick to pull on your friends, especially when they're particularly scared already. We plopped down on a loading dock at one of the abandoned buildings at the local mental hospital, pulled out the Ouija board, and I made it spell "help me" and "let me out." The guys screamed bloody murder and ran back to the car. hehehehehe
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 03:52
How did the boards that have "been around for a while" and are now "broken in" first start working when they were brand new?

The theory is, that the longer the board has been around, the more energy it picks up, etc. It's like breaking in a new shoe.


Somebody give me a complete list of everything one could do with a Ouija board to piss off the all bogeymen and such. An experiment is in order.

http://www.mysticalblaze.com/OuijaTips.htm

This seems like a good list.
Dissonant Cognition
07-09-2006, 03:59
The theory is, that the longer the board has been around, the more energy it picks up, etc. It's like breaking in a new shoe.


http://www.npr.org/tv/2005/donadamsshoephone200.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Smart#Gadgets)

Mortal plane calling the afterlife, mortal plane calling the afterlife, come in please...
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 04:13
http://www.npr.org/tv/2005/donadamsshoephone200.jpg

Mortal plane calling the afterlife, mortal plane calling the afterlife, come in please...

LOL! 10!
Avika
07-09-2006, 04:23
Supposedly, it can act as a portal to the "other side", but I think it needs to be covered in unholy water(not regular. regular is neautral) at least once. However, just like real unlocked doors, it does not usually discriminate, so you could be talking to a spirit of good or an evil nazi bunny demon of satanic undeath. Also, if it does work like that and you get an evil spirit, do NOT burn it. It's a portal and burning it deasrtoys the portal, trapping the evil with you in this side.

This is all supposed.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 04:28
Supposedly, it can act as a portal to the "other side", but I think it needs to be covered in unholy water(not regular. regular is neautral) at least once. However, just like real unlocked doors, it does not usually discriminate, so you could be talking to a spirit of good or an evil nazi bunny demon of satanic undeath. Also, if it does work like that and you get an evil spirit, do NOT burn it. It's a portal and burning it deasrtoys the portal, trapping the evil with you in this side.

This is all supposed.

I heard that breaking the board into 7 diffrent pieces works.
Dissonant Cognition
07-09-2006, 04:29
http://www.mysticalblaze.com/OuijaTips.htm

This seems like a good list.


Do choose your partners carefully. Negativity, ridicule, or bad attitude can cause the board to not work at all, or worse, summon something equally negative that may be difficult to banish.


Translation: Critical thinking or skepticism are only practiced by bad, negative people.

Classic. :rolleyes:
Vetalia
07-09-2006, 04:32
I'd say only use it if you are sure of what you're doing. Using these things can have both highly beneficial and highly dangerous consequences, and it is hard to tell whether or not the things you're in contact with are harmless or outright hostile. Always make sure to take procautions and always make sure to end the session properly in order to close the portal you've created.

And, always remember:

Never, ever ask whatever you're in contact with to give you a sign of its presence...that's akin to giving it an invitation to come on over to our world, and you might end up bringing something very bad in.

Now, I always say "keep an open, but skeptical mind" about these things, but it doesn't hurt to take your precautions. After all, the chance of getting struck by lightning is pretty low but we still wouldn't climb a tree and wave a golf club around, would we?
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 04:36
I'd say only use it if you are sure of what you're doing. Using these things can have both highly beneficial and highly dangerous consequences, and it is hard to tell whether or not the things you're in contact with are harmless or outright hostile. Always make sure to take procautions and always make sure to end the session properly in order to close the portal you've created.

And, always remember:

Never, ever ask whatever you're in contact with to give you a sign of its presence...that's akin to giving it an invitation to come on over to our world, and you might end up bringing something very bad in.

Now, I always say "keep an open, but skeptical mind" about these things, but it doesn't hurt to take your precautions. After all, the chance of getting struck by lightning is pretty low but we still wouldn't climb a tree and wave a golf club around, would we?


Would TM (Transcendental meditation) have the same affect as an Ouija Board? I mean in terms of it's power to bring in evil forces?
BackwoodsSquatches
07-09-2006, 04:40
Would TM (Transcendental meditation) have the same affect as an Ouija Board? I mean in terms of it's power to bring in evil forces?

Not according to most "authorities" on the subject.
Vetalia
07-09-2006, 04:41
Would TM (Transcendental meditation) have the same affect as an Ouija Board? I mean in terms of it's power to bring in evil forces?

I'd be more concerned about the cult-like nature of some TM groups than the risk of attracting evil; also, its benefits are somewhat dubious and may be outright detrimental to your mental health.

Personally, I think you're better off meditating on your own through more traditional forms or practicing contemplative martial arts like Tai Chi, but if you want to look in to TM you should, if only to learn. I'd still be wary, given that there is very little evidence of the benefits of the program and it can be quite costly.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 04:43
I'd be more concerned about the cult-like nature of some TM groups than the risk of attracting evil; also, its benefits are somewhat dubious and may be outright detrimental to your mental health.

Personally, I think you're better off meditating on your own through more traditional forms or practicing contemplative martial arts like Tai Chi, but if you want to look in to TM you should, if only to learn. I'd still be wary, given that there is very little evidence of the benefits of the program and it can be quite costly.

Well the reason I ask is that I used to do reasearch on The Amityville House, and in my reasearch I found out that George Lutz did TM in the house and then all that crap happened. I was just wondering if maybe there was a connection between George Lutz messing with something he wasn't experienced with and the events that happened to the Lutzs in the house.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-09-2006, 04:51
Well the reason I ask is that I used to do reasearch on The Amityville House, and in my reasearch I found out that George Lutz did TM in the house and then all that crap happened. I was just wondering if maybe there was a connection between George Lutz messing with something he wasn't experienced with and the events that happened to the Lutzs in the house.


The thing to remember about the Lutz's is that they made it all up.
They admitted to it, and have recently (George Lutz) retracted the admission.

Amityville was a hoax.

However, lets assume it wasnt...

The people that were called in after the Lut'z fled, were George and Lorraine Warren.
They are Demonologists, and Lorraine claims to be psychic, and had the gift of "Discernment".*

They reassured the Lutz's that the practice of TM had little to do with it.
Vetalia
07-09-2006, 04:52
Well the reason I ask is that I used to do reasearch on The Amityville House, and in my reasearch I found out that George Lutz did TM in the house and then all that crap happened. I was just wondering if maybe there was a connection between George Lutz messing with something he wasn't experienced with and the events that happened to the Lutzs in the house.

Amityville was most likely a hoax or at least extremely exaggerated; many of the events described were not corroborated in reports or simply didn't happen. Also, the backbone of the story (the Indian burial ground) didn't even exist, and subsequent investigations ultimately turned up nothing; even the "hoofprints in the snow" were impossible because it didn't snow on the day of the event or any time before it. Even the priest mentioned only called the Lutzes and never visited them.

However, it may have been haunted to some degree; nevertheless, the story itself is exaggerated and its ties to TM nonexistent...otherwise, there would be a hell of a lot more Amityvilles going on during the period and up until the present. If anything, it was a mild haunting played up to profit off of the combination of The Exorcist's popularity, the religious right's criticism of "Satanic" music, and the overall hostility towards the occult that was probably a combination of these as well as the end of the Hippie era.

It's a good, scary read but don't take it at face value. I think there were paranormal events or at least strange occurrences, but nowhere near the stuff described in the book.
New Granada
07-09-2006, 04:59
I heard that breaking the board into 7 diffrent pieces works.

Only if you then dissolve them in pig's urine and then eat them.

Bridges, get'cher bridges.
Vetalia
07-09-2006, 05:00
Only if you then dissolve them in pig's urine and then eat them.

Now that would be a demonic punishment...
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 05:06
The thing to remember about the Lutz's is that they made it all up.
They admitted to it, and have recently (George Lutz) retracted the admission.

Amityville was a hoax.

However, lets assume it wasnt...

The people that were called in after the Lut'z fled, were George and Lorraine Warren.
They are Demonologists, and Lorraine claims to be psychic, and had the gift of "Discernment".*

They reassured the Lutz's that the practice of TM had little to do with it.

I actually talked to the late Mr. Lutzs (he died recently) when he was in NC. Apparently the whole thing about him admitting that it was a hoax, was an internet rumor.

I think something did happen in that house, I don't know what. I also don't think that the original story is what it is today. I mean let's face it, Hollywood like to add their own twist to any story, so of course the movie The Amityville Horror (both) added on to the story. Also, Jay Anson who was the author for the book The Amityville Horror also added on to the story because hey, he got to sell the book.

As to why the house is quiet today, I really don't know. I wish the current owner Brian Wilson would let a Paranormal Invesigation team (T.A.P.S. would do a great job) into the house and put this to bed once and for all.
Andaluciae
07-09-2006, 05:08
I betcha I could get a better message from the 'other side' with a bottle of brandy than with a Ouija board :D
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 05:10
Amityville was most likely a hoax or at least extremely exaggerated; many of the events described were not corroborated in reports or simply didn't happen. Also, the backbone of the story (the Indian burial ground) didn't even exist,

Actually, that got started by Hans Holzer not the Lutzs.


and subsequent investigations ultimately turned up nothing; even the "hoofprints in the snow" were impossible because it didn't snow on the day of the event or any time before it.

Hans Holzer again, let's face it, Hans Holzer is either really stupid, trying to make a buck off of this case, or is lying. I choose option B and C.

Even the priest mentioned only called the Lutzes and never visited them.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here, because from what I can see he stuck to his story, he even said he did on a radio show (can't remember the name).

However, it may have been haunted to some degree; nevertheless, the story itself is exaggerated and its ties to TM nonexistent...otherwise, there would be a hell of a lot more Amityvilles going on during the period and up until the present.

I do believe that the story was exaggerated by the movie, book, and Holzer.


If anything, it was a mild haunting played up to profit off of the combination of The Exorcist's popularity, the religious right's criticism of "Satanic" music, and the overall hostility towards the occult that was probably a combination of these as well as the end of the Hippie era.

Actually the Lutzs only really made about $300,000 from the whole deal. The people who wrote the book and produced the movie earned a whole lot more. Most of that money was spent on legal battles.


It's a good, scary read but don't take it at face value. I think there were paranormal events or at least strange occurrences, but nowhere near the stuff described in the book.

Agreed.
Plumtopia
07-09-2006, 05:23
I'll just have to haunt the changerooms in hopes that someone brings an Etch-a-Sketch or Scrabble board. I'm hoping for Etch-a-Sketch so I can prove my wicked ghost sketching skills.

so... would that make you a Ghost Writer! (sorry, i couldn't resist :p )
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 05:26
so... would that make you a Ghost Writer! (sorry, i couldn't resist :p )

LOL, good one.
New Granada
07-09-2006, 05:27
Actually the Lutzs only really made about $300,000 from the whole deal. The people who wrote the book and produced the movie earned a whole lot more. Most of that money was spent on legal battles.





A lot of people have done a whole lot more for 300,000 dollars.


A sucker's born every minute.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 05:33
As for the Amityville Case, I really don't know where to put my vote. I hear both sides, and both sides have valid argument. At the end I wasn't there so I can't really make a clear call. It would help if the current owner would let a team invesigate his house, but Bush has a better chance of getting 100% approval rating than of that happening.
Plumtopia
07-09-2006, 05:35
A lot of people have done a whole lot more for 300,000 dollars.


A sucker's born every minute.

enough talk of Blow-Pops! i want to hear more about these wonderful bridges someone was selling!
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 05:37
enough talk of Blow-Pops! i want to hear more about these wonderful bridges someone was selling!

Well I got the New York Bridge, The Golden Gate, Madison Bridge, and several I-85s bridges!
New Granada
07-09-2006, 05:38
Well I got the New York Bridge, The Golden Gate, Madison Bridge, and several I-85s bridges!

One of the bridges that I've got comes with a lake that it goes over. You get the lake FREE with the bridge.
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 05:38
One of the bridges that I've got comes with a lake that it goes over. You get the lake FREE with the bridge.

Well I got a draw bridge!
Daistallia 2104
07-09-2006, 05:42
Has anyone ever play with this board? I never played with the Ouija Board, but I've always heard bad stories related to it, so I'm pretty relunlant to try. So, has anyone play Ouija, and do you have any stories?

You should only be reluctant if you are afraid of what will come out of your subconcious via the Ideomotor effect. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_effect)

Would TM (Transcendental meditation) have the same affect as an Ouija Board? I mean in terms of it's power to bring in evil forces?

No.
Plumtopia
07-09-2006, 05:46
Well I got the New York Bridge, The Golden Gate, Madison Bridge, and several I-85s bridges!

what about the London? or did the deal with the guy in Arizona "fall through"? :D
Wilgrove
07-09-2006, 05:56
what about the London? or did the deal with the guy in Arizona "fall through"? :D

Well he did do the falling... :p

/morbid joke.

As for the London Bridge, well it fell down.

/corny joke.
Plumtopia
07-09-2006, 06:06
Well he did do the falling... :p

/morbid joke.

As for the London Bridge, well it fell down.

/corny joke.

now see, i made two humorous references, but inside a business-transaction line :D

PHEAR MY WORD SKRILLS!