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Iranian President Purges Profs

Pyotr
05-09-2006, 20:13
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14676069/

Apparently Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is trying to return Iran to its 1980s glory, by getting rid of all secular and liberal professors.

does this smack of Mao's cultural revoution to anyne else?

my2cents: not going to convince people that iran's nuclear program is "peaceful"
Andaluciae
05-09-2006, 20:14
Welcome to the paradise that is Iran, complete with children singing and friendly happy little ducks that talk.
Cabra West
05-09-2006, 20:15
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14676069/

Apparently Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is trying to return Iran to its 1980s glory, by getting rid of all secular and liberal professors.

my2cents: not going to convince people that iran's nuclear program is "peaceful"

*lol
He'll have fun trying to push on with his nuclear program with a bunch of beared Mullahs after kicking out the academics...
Vetalia
05-09-2006, 20:16
And the Iranian economy sinks even further...honestly, this guy has done so much damage to Iran that I would not be surprised if its economy collapses. He has mismanaged everything and continues to worsen the country's economic situation with his nutjob ideological crusades and bizarre, hate-infused anti -Western and anti-Semitic rants.

11% unemployment, gas shortages, 40% poverty, 12% inflation and the specter of hyperinflation...he's a real winner, this guy. What good is nuclear power if you don't have an economy to use it? And how the hell do you have a nuclear program if you're going to purge all the scientists in order to keep your idiotic ideology pure?
Pyotr
05-09-2006, 20:17
Welcome to the paradise that is Iran, complete with children singing and friendly happy little ducks that talk.

hopefully they don't become as batshit insane as they were in Khomeini's time
Drunk commies deleted
05-09-2006, 20:18
That can't be right. People on this very message board have told me that Iran is a modern, democratic nation.
Farnhamia
05-09-2006, 20:18
Nice alliteration but it would have been perfect if you'd made it "Persian President Purges Profs." The only thing I'd be surprised about would be him acting reasonably.
Andaluciae
05-09-2006, 20:19
hopefully they don't become as batshit insane as they were in Khomeini's time

Ugh, that would be bad.
[NS:]Begoner21
05-09-2006, 20:28
What Ahmadinejad is doing is great for the country. Iran is facing a severe energy crisis -- they simply do not have enough oil to power the entire country. Thus, Mr. Ahmadinejad made the sensible decision to pursue nuclear power, Iran's only hope of meeting its energy needs. He is also quite a history scholar, as is evidenced by his research into the Holocaust period and the logical conclusions which he drew from that information. He knows that Iran was a world powerhouse in the past, so he is trying to take Iran back into that era by destroying its economy and purging free thinkers, liberals, and modernists from any influential posts.
Soheran
05-09-2006, 20:28
Liberalism and secularism... what evil, disgusting ideologies.

The Iranian people should get rid of this fool and the reactionary crowd that surrounds him; his critique and policies are non-solutions to all too genuine problems.
Drunk commies deleted
05-09-2006, 20:31
Begoner21;11642382']What Ahmadinejad is doing is great for the country. Iran is facing a severe energy crisis -- they simply do not have enough oil to power the entire country. Thus, Mr. Ahmadinejad made the sensible decision to pursue nuclear power, Iran's only hope of meeting its energy needs. He is also quite a history scholar, as is evidenced by his research into the Holocaust period and the logical conclusions which he drew from that information. He knows that Iran was a world powerhouse in the past, so he is trying to take Iran back into that era by destroying its economy and purging free thinkers, liberals, and modernists from any influential posts.

Are you high? Iran is an oil exporter. That means it produces enough oil for itself and still has enough to sell. In fact it's in the top ten in total production and in exports.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html
Andaluciae
05-09-2006, 20:34
Are you high? Iran is an oil exporter. That means it produces enough oil for itself and still has enough to sell. In fact it's in the top ten in total production and in exports.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html

But their refining capabilities are very poor. They can suck all the black gunk out of the ground that they want, but their refinery infrastructure is pathetic.
Ye Alabaster Nations
05-09-2006, 20:35
It is highly likely that this article doesn't do justice to Ahmadinejad's actions. From what I've heard, the reason for this campaign is that they experience a severe lack of fresh blood in their universities, as the old professors have occupied everything, - a most frequently met situation. I find it sad that everything a patriotic leader who doesn't openly support the US does is interpreted by the media as an attempt to establish a misanthropic totalitarian regime.
IDF
05-09-2006, 20:38
And the Iranian economy sinks even further...honestly, this guy has done so much damage to Iran that I would not be surprised if its economy collapses. He has mismanaged everything and continues to worsen the country's economic situation with his nutjob ideological crusades and bizarre, hate-infused anti -Western and anti-Semitic rants.

11% unemployment, gas shortages, 40% poverty, 12% inflation and the specter of hyperinflation...he's a real winner, this guy. What good is nuclear power if you don't have an economy to use it? And how the hell do you have a nuclear program if you're going to purge all the scientists in order to keep your idiotic ideology pure?

It doesn't matter how the economy is doing because we all know that the fault of their economic woes is the Jews and the evil Zionist regime.:p

All kidding aside, you know that that fucking psycho will say that's the reason his economy is failing. What's even worse is that some posters like Occean Drive will believe it.
Andaluciae
05-09-2006, 20:42
It is highly likely that this article doesn't do justice to Ahmadinejad's actions. From what I've heard, the reason for this campaign is that they experience a severe lack of fresh blood in their universities, as the old professors have occupied everything, - a most frequently met situation. I find it sad that everything a patriotic leader who doesn't openly support the US does is interpreted by the media as an attempt to establish a misanthropic totalitarian regime.

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Mikitivity
05-09-2006, 20:55
Are you high? Iran is an oil exporter. That means it produces enough oil for itself and still has enough to sell. In fact it's in the top ten in total production and in exports.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html

He was being sarcastic ... note that he also talked about how the Iranian President has access to the same information about the Holocaust as the rest of us, but came to the opposite conclusion.

Personally I think nuclear-powered energy is the way to go, but I do agree that this guy is a certifiable nut-job.
Drunk commies deleted
05-09-2006, 20:56
But their refining capabilities are very poor. They can suck all the black gunk out of the ground that they want, but their refinery infrastructure is pathetic.

So let 'em build refineries. It's cheaper and it won't get them bombed. Let's face it, the US doesn't trust them with nuclear technology. Neither do most European nations (otherwise why are they trying to negotiate Iran out of it's nuclear ambitions?), Neither does the IAEA (IAEA can't get Iran to comply with it's inspections). If Iran needs energy so badly they should build refineries and start building trust between themselves and other nations so they might be trusted with the technology in the future.
Andaluciae
05-09-2006, 20:57
So let 'em build refineries. It's cheaper and it won't get them bombed. Let's face it, the US doesn't trust them with nuclear technology. Neither do most European nations (otherwise why are they trying to negotiate Iran out of it's nuclear ambitions?), Neither does the IAEA (IAEA can't get Iran to comply with it's inspections). If Iran needs energy so badly they should build refineries and start building trust between themselves and other nations so they might be trusted with the technology in the future.

*Nods in Agreement*
Gauthier
05-09-2006, 21:00
Liberalism and secularism... what evil, disgusting ideologies.

And NationStates General seems to agree from what's there to read. Yet the same folks who can't stand "Liberuhls" in the United States and thinks the country was founded as a Christian nation will of course latch on to this story as more proof of t3h 3b1l m0zl3m 80rg ©0ll3©71\/3 running rampant unchecked still.

The Iranian people should get rid of this fool and the reactionary crowd that surrounds him; his critique and policies are non-solutions to all too genuine problems.

Should and Can are two different things. Iran is not a complete democracy by any means, as if there is such a thing in the world today. And of course nobody will bother to mention that the university students put up a major bitchfest since Day One when Ahmedinejad put an ayatollah in charge of the University of Tehran; in fact I bet the consensus will go down easier if people assume that t3h 3b1l m0zl3m 80rg ©0ll3©71\/3 was perfectly fine with this desecularization from the getgo.
[NS:]Begoner21
05-09-2006, 21:03
Are you high? Iran is an oil exporter. That means it produces enough oil for itself and still has enough to sell. In fact it's in the top ten in total production and in exports.

The only thing I'm "high" on is Ahmadinejad's successes as president of Iran. He has single-handedly demolished Iran's economy and turned most of the world against his country. As they say in show biz, any publicity is good publicity, and Iran's getting all the press coverage these days. Iraq can't have the limelight all the time -- it's going to be Iran's turn next. He has also made the intelligent decision to cut back on science and promote religion. This novel decision puts Iran on the path to the Dark Age, a pleasant and simpler time when religion ruled with an iron fist and the unworthy were decimated by plagues. Back then, the Arab world was far stronger than the West, and it is Ahmadinejad's goal to realize this dream once again. He is a true visionary.
Vetalia
05-09-2006, 21:03
It doesn't matter how the economy is doing because we all know that the fault of their economic woes is the Jews and the evil Zionist regime.:p

All kidding aside, you know that that fucking psycho will say that's the reason his economy is failing. What's even worse is that some posters like Occean Drive will believe it.

But they always said that the Jews were good with money...you think they would try to manage the economy well in order to fleece the noble Iranian mullahs more efficiently. I guess contradictions are a nonissue within anti-Semitic circles.

It's like the people who consider Bush to be an idiot but also credit him with pulling off 9/11, stealing 2 elections, causing a recession and making up evidence to justify the war in Iraq...apparently, he's both a moron and an evil genius. :confused:
Soheran
05-09-2006, 21:13
Should and Can are two different things. Iran is not a complete democracy by any means, as if there is such a thing in the world today.

Neither was the government led by the Shah.

And of course nobody will bother to mention that the university students put up a major bitchfest since Day One when Ahmedinejad put an ayatollah in charge of the University of Tehran;

There do seem to be major segments of Iranian society that dislike Ahmadinejad, but what troubles me most is the people who support him as presenting a solution to economic deprivation and US imperialism, when in fact he will solve neither problem and seems bent on causing others.

in fact I bet the consensus will go down easier if people assume that t3h 3b1l m0zl3m 80rg ©0ll3©71\/3 was perfectly fine with this desecularization from the getgo.

Rabid paranoia and insane generalization tend to be more convenient than serious analysis for some people.
Soheran
05-09-2006, 21:14
It's like the people who consider Bush to be an idiot but also credit him with pulling off 9/11, stealing 2 elections, causing a recession and making up evidence to justify the war in Iraq...apparently, he's both a moron and an evil genius. :confused:

He's an idiot, but with devious allies.
Vetalia
05-09-2006, 21:17
He's an idiot, but with devious allies.

But then again, why bother with the idiot? Why not just use someone who appears competent to pursue your schemes so that people are distracted by what appears to be competent leadership?
Soheran
05-09-2006, 21:23
But then again, why bother with the idiot? Why not just use someone who appears competent to pursue your schemes so that people are distracted by what appears to be competent leadership?

I said "devious," not "competent." The higher-ups in the Bush Administration are pretty much all incompetent, and the revelations regarding the WMDs are indications of that. They most likely did not, however, directly implement any election fraud that may have occurred.
Myrmidonisia
05-09-2006, 21:25
Begoner21;11642382']What Ahmadinejad is doing is great for the country. Iran is facing a severe energy crisis -- they simply do not have enough oil to power the entire country. Thus, Mr. Ahmadinejad made the sensible decision to pursue nuclear power, Iran's only hope of meeting its energy needs. He is also quite a history scholar, as is evidenced by his research into the Holocaust period and the logical conclusions which he drew from that information. He knows that Iran was a world powerhouse in the past, so he is trying to take Iran back into that era by destroying its economy and purging free thinkers, liberals, and modernists from any influential posts.

You're right. Life in the 9th century, BC, was much easier.
Andaluciae
05-09-2006, 21:27
You're right. Life in the 9th century, BC, was much easier.

Yeah, it was before the Greeks humiliated Xerxes.
Slaughterhouse five
05-09-2006, 21:47
one inute they try to convince the west that they are good people and iran is not backwards like some people think, and then they do this.

also sounds like when they say the nuclear program is for peace but also quoted as saying such statements along the lines of "we will wipe israel off the map"