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I was watching the US Open, and I realized that it is quite sexist that women only have to play a maximum of 3 sets while men have to play a maximum of 5. Aren't any feminists protesting this blatant unfairness? After all, women are equal to men in sports, so both should play the same number of sets, right?

You have too much time on your hands..

You have too much time on your hands..

But all that feminists have worked so hard for is coming undone! How can you not take action against this wanton male supremacy!? Surely we shouldn't regress to the 50s in terms of women's rights.

You have too much time on your hands..

I think he's making fun of feminists.

I don't see why women don't compete with men in Tennis

It's probably because the female players don't want to have to play more than they already do. I know I wouldn't wanna bust my arse for another two sets.

Begoner21;11638813']I was watching the US Open, and I realized that it is quite sexist that women only have to play a maximum of 3 sets while men have to play a maximum of 5. Aren't any feminists protesting this blatant unfairness? After all, women are equal to men in sports, so both should play the same number of sets, right?
That bolded part shows that you know nothing about sports, which isn't terribly surprising.

I don't know about the US Open, but at Wimbledon time, lots of people protest that women should be paid as much as men, and play the full 5 sets.

So, broadly, yes, they do protest about inequality between the sexes in tennis. I don't know if it coalesces around the US Open, but as I say, it certainly does at other Grand Slam events.

I don't see why women don't compete with men in Tennis

Because we're all terrified that they might actually beat us :D

Begoner21;11638813']I was watching the US Open, and I realized that it is quite sexist that women only have to play a maximum of 3 sets while men have to play a maximum of 5. Aren't any feminists protesting this blatant unfairness? After all, women are equal to men in sports, so both should play the same number of sets, right?

If you wanna be fair women should have to compete against men if they want to play sports. Would that not make them equal rather than giving them their own little league because they are not good enough?

I think he's making fun of feminists.

Ah.

*coughs*

Women rights!

That bolded part shows that you know nothing about sports, which isn't terribly surprising.

Obviously you haven't watched the Knitting Championship this year. Women dominated the men at the internationally televized event, which resulted in a win for Hazel Tindall with 255 stitches in 3 minutes, a world record. Your bigotry is not amusing.

http://www.bhkc.co.uk/data/fastest.htm

There was a rather famous tennis match resulting from a certain man (Bobby Riggs, former men's tennis champion) with a tennis history saying that no woman could beat a man in tennis.

After a certain female tennis player (Billie Jean King) whooped his tail on the court, hilarity ensued.

Frankly, I think female tennis players would by and large not have trouble competing - but it's a spectator thing. Who watches men's tennis anyway? They don't wear as short shorts.

If you wanna be fair women should have to compete against men if they want to play sports. Would that not make them equal rather than giving them their own little league because they are not good enough?

It's not a matter of not being good enough. It's a matter of physical differences between the sexes. Women don't have the bone or muscle density of men, and to expect them to compete, elite versus elite, is ludicrous.

Begoner21;11638957']Obviously you haven't watched the Knitting Championship this year. Women dominated the men at the internationally televized event, which resulted in a win for Hazel Tindall with 255 stitches in 3 minutes, a world record. Your bigotry is not amusing.

http://www.bhkc.co.uk/data/fastest.htm

:rolleyes:

I think he meant that women would be good at some sports but not others, just like men. And also knitting is not a sport even if it does have a championship. Also who the fuck would watch knitting?

It's probably because the female players don't want to have to play more than they already do. I know I wouldn't wanna bust my arse for another two sets.

IIRC women players have said several times that they'd be happy playing 5 sets, provided they got 5 sets worth of money.

It's not a matter of not being good enough. It's a matter of physical differences between the sexes. Women don't have the bone or muscle density of men, and to expect them to compete, elite versus elite, is ludicrous.

The main rule of anything political, from daycare politics to political correctness is: Never let facts get in the way.

The main rule of anything political, from daycare politics to political correctness is: Never let facts get in the way.

The OP is making a bullshit argument about athletics and trying to link it to political correctness.

The OP is making a bullshit argument about athletics and trying to link it to political correctness.

what did I just say. This thread smells of politics, therefore facts would only get in the way.

I think he meant that women would be good at some sports but not others, just like men. And also knitting is not a sport even if it does have a championship. Also who the fuck would watch knitting?

That is a typical argument borne out of a misguided view of male supremacy. You feel emasculated when women are better than you at a sport. Thus, you claim that the sport is "bullshit" or "not a real sport" so that your sex can enjoy a continued illusion of athletic prowess. Also, women are worse at some sports then men because the male/female segregation adversely affects the athletic abilities of many women.

Begoner21;11638957']Obviously you haven't watched the Knitting Championship this year. Women dominated the men at the internationally televized event, which resulted in a win for Hazel Tindall with 255 stitches in 3 minutes, a world record. Your bigotry is not amusing.

http://www.bhkc.co.uk/data/fastest.htm

You're shitting me. A "Knitting Contest"? You have to be fucking kidding me.

You're shitting me. A "Knitting Contest"? You have to be fucking kidding me.

It's the only thing females are good at.

You're shitting me. A "Knitting Contest"? You have to be fucking kidding me.

Ditto. I have no idea who WATCHES that... but i wonder that about a lot of TV, so...

It's not a matter of not being good enough. It's a matter of physical differences between the sexes. Women don't have the bone or muscle density of men, and to expect them to compete, elite versus elite, is ludicrous.

why can't a women compete against men if they want to think about it there would still be women’s events(or men’s events in some sports) its just that the title of world champion would actually be fair if women could also have a chance to achieve it

Also on an elite level I doubt there is as much difference between the sexes it balances out usually with women being more nimble yet somewhat lacking in power whereas men are strong yet the muscle bulk makes us less flexible and such

"why can't a women compete against men if they want to think about it there would still be women’s events(or men’s events in some sports) its just that the title of world champion would actually be fair if women could also have a chance to achieve it"

Well, no woman seems to want to enter, as far as I know, so...

"Also on an elite level I doubt there is as much difference between the sexes it balances out usually with women being more nimble yet somewhat lacking in power whereas men are strong yet the muscle bulk makes us less flexible and such"

Right... different but equal... that stuff...

why can't a women compete against men if they want to think about it there would still be women’s events(or men’s events in some sports) its just that the title of world champion would actually be fair if women could also have a chance to achieve it

Also on an elite level I doubt there is as much difference between the sexes it balances out usually with women being more nimble yet somewhat lacking in power whereas men are strong yet the muscle bulk makes us less flexible and such

About the only major sport where women and men compete with each other at an elite level--and then only rarely--is golf. And when I say rarely, I mean rarely--there's only been a handful of women who have tried to compete on the men's tour, and I don't believe that any of them have finished in the money. Michelle Wie will likely do so eventually, but she'll be the exception rather than the rule.

About the only major sport where women and men compete with each other at an elite level--and then only rarely--is golf. And when I say rarely, I mean rarely--there's only been a handful of women who have tried to compete on the men's tour, and I don't believe that any of them have finished in the money. Michelle Wie will likely do so eventually, but she'll be the exception rather than the rule.

so as you can see by golf it makes no real difference in that sport men seem to be superior but still women have there own cups its just now women actually have a chance to compete against the men

So do tell why a woman shouldn’t compete against the odds if she chooses to?

So do tell why a woman shouldn’t compete against the odds if she chooses to?

Unless a suit is brought up, things will stay status quo. and noone yet has filed suit, so it will stay the same until someone does.

Gotta love the way of The West... ;)

Unless a suit is brought up, things will stay status quo. and noone yet has filed suit, so it will stay the same until someone does.

do you actually believe someone has to sue before any action is taken?

do you actually believe someone has to sue before any action is taken?

That is how it works in the US. That, a law/court ruling, a bribe or... THE MAFIA!:eek:

That is how it works in the US. That, a law/court ruling, a bribe or... THE MAFIA!:eek:

what if a woman asks to compete in the men’s tournament?

what if a woman asks to compete in the men’s tournament?

The rules apply only if she were ejected and went through the coruts/Mafia/random rich people...

I don't know what would occur there.

Begoner21;11638813']I was watching the US Open, and I realized that it is quite sexist that women only have to play a maximum of 3 sets while men have to play a maximum of 5. Aren't any feminists protesting this blatant unfairness? After all, women are equal to men in sports, so both should play the same number of sets, right?

Billie Jean (http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00016060.html) (King) is not your lover.

They should play five sets, preferably naked.

They should play five sets, preferably naked.

The man is a visionary.

I won't leave the ladies out of this, it's time for naked sports. You want to prove you're man enough to play? Play with you junk out. No one is going to question you after that...

It's the only thing females are good at.

:rolleyes: You're probably one of the idiots that chose the last one, aren't you? :mad:

Anyway, if women are capable of playing 5 sets, I'm all for it.

They should play five sets, preferably naked.Good grief man, their breasts would tear off without support. Well, not literally, but it'd be very painfull as I understand..

So do tell why a woman shouldn’t compete against the odds if she chooses to?If she were on the same level, sure. But you don't get to chose what level of play you're capable of, you have to fight for it and some thing have to be given by chance and nature. I don't think at the top level of competition women are a match for the men.

I don't know about the US Open, but at Wimbledon time, lots of people protest that women should be paid as much as men, and play the full 5 sets.

So, broadly, yes, they do protest about inequality between the sexes in tennis. I don't know if it coalesces around the US Open, but as I say, it certainly does at other Grand Slam events.

I usually here them protesting about getting less money, but I rarely here them also complaining that they should play the same amount of sets. Though that might be due to how it is reported in the media during wimbledon time.

About the only major sport where women and men compete with each other at an elite level--and then only rarely--is golf. And when I say rarely, I mean rarely--there's only been a handful of women who have tried to compete on the men's tour, and I don't believe that any of them have finished in the money. Michelle Wie will likely do so eventually, but she'll be the exception rather than the rule.

That reminds me, not only are women competing in the mens golf, but there is a male golfer (can't remember his name) who is trying to get into the womens competition.

I think I have found an article about it, though I am surprised how hard it is to find comments/articles on it.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/euro/2005-10-27-van-de-velde-women-british_x.htm?POE=click-refer
http://www.thegolfblog.com/2005/10/is-van-de-velde-trying-to-change-his.html (a blog that has links about it)

I dont think women can compete against men at an elite level. Take for example the serve, the serve in tennis is very important and to be honest men would thrash women at serving. It is likely you could get a scenaro where men won games just on the serve. That just isnt fair hence men and women's competitions. But if women want to play 5 sets then i say let them but my personal opinion is their quality would detereate if they played more than 3 sets so i dont see the point in playing 5

Good grief man, their breasts would tear off without support. Well, not literally, but it'd be very painfull as I understand..

Maybe they could strap themselves in a see-through manner then.

The man is a visionary.

I won't leave the ladies out of this, it's time for naked sports. You want to prove you're man enough to play? Play with you junk out. No one is going to question you after that...

When I was an undergrad, some friends of mine and I would play golf with the caveat that when you were teeing off, you had to hit your first shot past the ladies' tees, or play the next hole with your dick out to prove you're a man.

Yeah, I was in a fraternity.

I can't put this any other way but, Women are usually not quite fit enough to play more then 3 sets.

I can't put this any other way but, Women are usually not quite fit enough to play more then 3 sets.They'd probably have enough energy left if they didn't groan in excess of 120 decibells every time they hit a ball..

Begoner21;11638813']... I realized that it is quite sexist that women only have to play a maximum of 3 sets while men have to play a maximum of 5. Aren't any feminists protesting this blatant unfairness? Dude, you sound like someone who's just been beaten by a girl. :)

Seriously, sports have always been about equivalence between competitors. You don't see welterweights boxing heavyweights or 120-lbers wrestling 200-lbers (and in the US, at least through high school, women do competitively wrestle men). If you're a 5'4" male and weigh less than 190, you're almost certainly a gymnast not a linebacker.

As for the number of sets of tennis, I'd just as soon see them all play best of three and go all out from the first serve.

I stopped watching Tennis when that blond Russian girl retired.
Anna somethingorother

When they get another one of her calibre, let me know.

I think he's making fun of feminists.

Probably, but I have wondered about this issue. Usually once a year for about five minutes while wandering past the Open looking for somethng else to watch on TV.

As for the number of sets of tennis, I'd just as soon see them all play best of three and go all out from the first serve.
Funny thing is that outside the 4 major tournaments, that's precisely what the men and women both do.

:rolleyes: You're probably one of the idiots that chose the last one, aren't you? :mad:

Anyway, if women are capable of playing 5 sets, I'm all for it.

Women do chores, men do sports.