Which Opressive Regime is Most Likely?
The Aeson
04-09-2006, 22:31
Just a random thought. What's most likely to be the root of an oppressive regime where you live? And, for some added giggles, though it won't be in the pool, what would you do if it came about?
Poll coming soon.
Yootopia
04-09-2006, 22:34
The BNP, and if they got into power I'd use my SA80A2 (which every house would have to have) and gun the fuckers down.
Katzistanza
04-09-2006, 22:38
Statism
Lack of government transparency
Disintegration of check and balances
Centralization of governing powers.
As for what I'd do about it, well, you really don't know untill you're in that situation. I'd hope I'd have the strength of will not to bow down, but to resist, and the presence of mind to do it effectivly.
Even a futile, personal rebellion is worth it. Not going quietly and being beaten over the head is better then simply walking off into your captors van, if they have no legitimate right to take you.
Fascism, from ultra-nationalist factions dissattisfied with immigration, increasing minority populations, the decline in "traditional values," and globalization.
Edit: As for what I'd do about it, either get the hell out or join some left-wing resistance force.
The Aeson
04-09-2006, 22:40
Statism
Lack of government transparency
Disintegration of check and balances
Centralization of governing powers.
As for what I'd do about it, well, you really don't know untill you're in that situation. I'd hope I'd have the strength of will not to bow down, but to resist, and the presence of mind to do it effectivly.
Even a futile, personal rebellion is worth it. Not going quietly and being beaten over the head is better then simply walking off into your captors van, if they have no legitimate right to take you.
What about the peaceful protest approach? Which, as far as I can tell, involves both getting beaten over the head without actually attacking the people dragging you off.
Katzistanza
04-09-2006, 22:53
What about the peaceful protest approach? Which, as far as I can tell, involves both getting beaten over the head without actually attacking the people dragging you off.
That's a matter of personal choice. You gatta look in yourself and decide what's right by you. Personally, while I would not initiate violence, I will fight like a caged animal against anyone who tries to make a slave of me.
Free shepmagans
04-09-2006, 22:56
Uber liberals. It depends on if I've obtained an automatic weapon by then. I'd try to hide out in the wilderness and wait for them to attack.
Vegas-Rex
04-09-2006, 23:06
I put LG. In reality, I've got a friend who's planning to become the leader of a pot ring that will eventually control the city and out compete all of the region's other drugs, and that seems most likely. I don't think hippies would hold with any other type of regime.
Yootopia
04-09-2006, 23:11
Uber liberals. It depends on if I've obtained an automatic weapon by then. I'd try to hide out in the wilderness and wait for them to attack.
Oh noes!
They'll make you do whatever you like!
Katzistanza
04-09-2006, 23:12
I put LG. In reality, I've got a friend who's planning to become the leader of a pot ring that will eventually control the city and out compete all of the region's other drugs, and that seems most likely. I don't think hippies would hold with any other type of regime.
What city?
He'd better be careful.
Call to power
04-09-2006, 23:43
I'm guessing the BNP for Britain sadly the odds are I would just fall in line unless something huge happened and I was certain we could win (I’m not to keen on wasting my life for a hopeless cause)
The Autocracy of The Ominscient (robot)
Am I the only one worried about aliens?
Aliens have a LONG distance to go but-
ZOMG! I forgot about the negavite energy drive! U can go anywhere in an instant with it! :eek:
:p
I say robots b/c only a superintelligent being can rule the world.
Oh noes!
They'll make you do whatever you like!
Please, no! Don't let me play video games at all hours of the night! Don't let me enjoy my food! Don't let me be an individual doing what he wishes, PLEASE!
Yootopia
05-09-2006, 00:34
Please, no! Don't let me play video games at all hours of the night! Don't let me enjoy my food! Don't let me be an individual doing what he wishes, PLEASE!
Heh...
You : "No really, I don't want to stay up all night playing games..."
Oh noes ultra liberal : "That's not what the lie detector says"
You : "No... please... I can't stand to play another turn of Rome : Total War"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "Oh really?"
You : "Yes... really... for God's sake, I want this to end now"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "Looks like someone needs a lesson in ENJOYING THEMSELVES!"
You : *sighs* "Alright, just a quick LAN Battle then, 3000 p/ps I'm Selucids"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "No way! Bah! Fine... I'll be the house of Scipii then..."
You : "Oh and it's on the Libyan Flats"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "Gutted... I wanted a seige battle, but oh well!"
*gaming ensues*
I couldn't even begin to imagine a more oppresive regime to have to suffer through... oh no... wait....
Meath Street
05-09-2006, 00:52
I live in Ireland.
OMG MUSLIMS! not going to happen
OMG CHRISTIANS!not going to happen
OMG COMMIES! not going to happen
OMG FASCISTS! not going to happen
OMG UBER CONSERVATIVES! not going to happen (even our "right-wing, conservative" party talks about universal rights to education)
OMG UBER LIBERALS! possible www.progressivedemocrats.ie
OMG ALIENS! unlikely, but more feasible than the first four
OMG OTHER!
Sinn Fein (Irish nationalist socialists) could get pretty authoritarian if they ever won a majority place.
Heh...
You : "No really, I don't want to stay up all night playing games..."
Oh noes ultra liberal : "That's not what the lie detector says"
You : "No... please... I can't stand to play another turn of Rome : Total War"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "Oh really?"
You : "Yes... really... for God's sake, I want this to end now"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "Looks like someone needs a lesson in ENJOYING THEMSELVES!"
You : *sighs* "Alright, just a quick LAN Battle then, 3000 p/ps I'm Selucids"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "No way! Bah! Fine... I'll be the house of Scipii then..."
You : "Oh and it's on the Libyan Flats"
Oh noes ultra liberal : "Gutted... I wanted a seige battle, but oh well!"
*gaming ensues*
I couldn't even begin to imagine a more oppresive regime to have to suffer through... oh no... wait....
I must admit, it would be a very fun regime.
Oh noes ultra liberal: "Now come to bed. You need your...rest."
Me: "But I don't want more sex right now!"
Oh noes ultra liberal: "Yes you do."
Me: "...oh, fine."
I got one.
ME: "I don't want the ice cream."
UL: "But it's chocolate. You know you like chocolate"
ME: "... All right."
UL: "how about a round of Civ IV?"
ME: "Sure. I get Caesar!"
UL: "Well, I will be Ghandi."
Klitvilia
05-09-2006, 01:29
I voted a neo-conservative regime. Despite what a large portion of voters so far think, (well, a quarter so far) the majority of Christians do not want to live under a theocracy of ANY kind.
Markreich
05-09-2006, 01:33
Problem:
Uber Liberals are mostly Commies, and Uber Conservatives are mostly Christian...
I for one welcome our coming LUNATIC GOOFBALLS overlord... :D
Neo Undelia
05-09-2006, 01:53
Statist, conservative, Christian pseudo-democracy. Basically what we have already.
I actually wouldn't mind being ruled by an autocratic liberal.
Yootopia
05-09-2006, 04:28
Statist, conservative, Christian pseudo-democracy. Basically what we have already.
I actually wouldn't mind being ruled by an autocratic liberal.
Autocritic liberal?
Oh, the ironing!
Yesmusic
05-09-2006, 07:03
Yeah, neo-con is most likely for the US now. It's a good thing there's no "dictator for life" possibility. Yet.
New Granada
05-09-2006, 07:12
I have a rifle that shoots through kevlar helmets, and a working understanding of how to get and rig up explosives, so I wouldnt be around to see them establish their regime.
"Give me liberty or give me death" &c.
No country where every man has a rifle can ever be oppressed by totalitarianism.
Katzistanza
05-09-2006, 07:15
No country where every man has a rifle can ever be oppressed by totalitarianism.
Sure they canm if the opressors have bigger guns.
New Granada
05-09-2006, 07:17
Sure they canm if the opressors have bigger guns.
No, they can be exterminated but never oppressed stalin-style.
Eventually you'll run out of men willing to carry out the knock-in-the-night if they keep getting killed. Eventually someone will shoot the chairman, the town commissar, everyone in the NKVD and all the guards at the gulag.
Katzistanza
05-09-2006, 08:01
No, they can be exterminated but never oppressed stalin-style.
Eventually you'll run out of men willing to carry out the knock-in-the-night if they keep getting killed. Eventually someone will shoot the chairman, the town commissar, everyone in the NKVD and all the guards at the gulag.
Or the resistance will be viciously opressed, and people won't want to risk torture and death.
There were numerous rebelions against Stalin. He inharented a "revolution" made up of many smaller revolutions, most of which were not compatible with his highly centralized and authoritarian governing style. So he faced a populations with rifles, gernades, takes, howitzers, naval vessles, and they were all ruthlessly crushed.
Becides, totalitarian governments, especially the kind that would rise in the West today, would have a 1984 thing going on, where they have everyone (or most people anyway) so in love with the opressive state. Nationalist pride and the like.
Oh noes!
They'll make you do whatever you like!
Sigged.
Jello Biafra
05-09-2006, 14:19
OMG Crazed (American) Football Fanatics!