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Do single, childess people live 25% longer?

Neo Kervoskia
04-09-2006, 02:48
Or live longer than married couples with at least one kid? I'm curious to know what you think.
Wilgrove
04-09-2006, 02:49
Eh I think it depends on the person. For some people, having a family gives them meaning, and makes them happy, thus they live longer. For others the opposite is true.
Naliitr
04-09-2006, 02:50
It's somewhat hard to say. If you're married, you have to deal with the child, who may or may not turn out to be completely rebellious to your word, which may or may not lead to more stress, which may or may not lower your life expectency. But childless, you do not get to experience the joys of being a parent, watching your child take his first step, saying his first words, and possibly being everything you wanted them to be, continuing your (however small) legacy.
Utracia
04-09-2006, 02:51
I'm sure kids drive you absolutely nuts which takes a few years off your life then you worry about them all their life which takes a few more years. I'd say those with kids are in serious trouble. :D
Vetalia
04-09-2006, 02:52
I hope so. I kind of want to do a gigantic multiyear trip through Europe, Central Asia, and China and I want to be alive long enough to do it. Given that I'm going to need a shitload of money to pull it off, that 25% might come in handy. I don't plan to have kids or a wife because I consider them a hassle...I'm just not in to that and I never have been.

Who knows, though...maybe medicine will advance enought to enable us to live past 100 routinely.
IL Ruffino
04-09-2006, 02:53
Well, shit.
Utracia
04-09-2006, 02:58
Well, shit.

Shit? What shit? :eek:
IL Ruffino
04-09-2006, 03:05
Shit? What shit? :eek:

What shit? That shit.
Naliitr
04-09-2006, 03:08
What shit? That shit.

No, it's this shit, not that shit.
Vetalia
04-09-2006, 03:09
Well, shit.

It happens.
Wilgrove
04-09-2006, 03:10
No, it's this shit, not that shit.

Is it The Holy Shit?
Utracia
04-09-2006, 03:19
What shit? That shit.

Shit man, you just stepped in that shit! :eek:
Naliitr
04-09-2006, 03:21
This is such a shitty thread...
IL Ruffino
04-09-2006, 03:49
No, it's this shit, not that shit.

Well, shit.
IL Ruffino
04-09-2006, 03:49
Shit man, you just stepped in that shit! :eek:

Shitty deal.
Boofheads
04-09-2006, 04:31
I've always heard it was the opposite. I've never seen a study on it, but I've heard others say that they've seen studies showing that married people living longer. You could probably google it.
Utracia
04-09-2006, 04:33
Shitty deal.

No shit.
Kinda Sensible people
04-09-2006, 04:34
If we're male, no.

If we're female, yes.

Men live longer in a relationship.

Women live longer single.
IL Ruffino
04-09-2006, 04:37
No shit.

I.. have nothing..

Shit.. :(
Utracia
04-09-2006, 04:43
I.. have nothing..

Shit.. :(

Don't take any shit.
Not bad
04-09-2006, 04:49
Old single childless people dont live longer, it just seems longer.
Free Mercantile States
04-09-2006, 05:04
Why does it matter what any poster thinks? It's hardly a matter of opinion. Either it's true or it isn't.
CanuckHeaven
04-09-2006, 05:21
Or live longer than married couples with at least one kid? I'm curious to know what you think.
Hate to burst yer bubble but......

Longer Life (http://www.psychpage.com/family/library/brwaitgalligher.html)

Married people live longer as well. Single men have mortality rates that are 250% higher than married men. Single women have mortality rates that are 50% higher than married women (Ross et all, 1990). Having a spouse can decrease your risk for dying from cancer as much as knocking ten years off your life. Single people spend longer in the hospital, and have a greater risk of dying after surgery (Goodwin et al, 1987).
New Stalinberg
04-09-2006, 05:27
Kids are a waste of money anyway.
Wilgrove
04-09-2006, 05:32
Kids are a waste of money anyway.

Seconded.
Umajawe
04-09-2006, 05:32
Kids are a waste of money anyway.

So the survival of the Human race is a waste of money?
Wilgrove
04-09-2006, 05:33
So the survival of the Human race is a waste of money?

Yea pretty much. Just like that business woman on The Simpson said "Children are the future, today belongs to me!"
Umajawe
04-09-2006, 05:37
Yea pretty much. Just like that business woman on The Simpson said "Children are the future, today belongs to me!"


Well to all people who say children are a waste of money, just remember that made you a waste of money in some period of time.
New Stalinberg
04-09-2006, 05:38
So the survival of the Human race is a waste of money?

I'd say so.
Naliitr
04-09-2006, 05:39
Yeah. Screw financing the human race. Let the rabbits take over.
Wilgrove
04-09-2006, 05:41
Well to all people who say children are a waste of money, just remember that made you a waste of money in some period of time.

and I appericate that, but that was my parents decision. Just becase my parents decided to have children doesn't mean I am automatically obligated to have children.
Umajawe
04-09-2006, 06:01
and I appericate that, but that was my parents decision. Just becase my parents decided to have children doesn't mean I am automatically obligated to have children.

I don't care what people's postion on having children, just their opinions on children. To define children as a waste of money rather than human horrifies me.
Intestinal fluids
04-09-2006, 06:46
I don't care what people's postion on having children, just their opinions on children. To define children as a waste of money rather than human horrifies me.

What if you define them as human wastes of money?
Keruvalia
04-09-2006, 06:50
Kids are a waste of money anyway.

Not so much if you sell quickly.
Not bad
04-09-2006, 07:00
What if you define them as human wastes of money?

That would be gummint supported artists.
Yesmusic
04-09-2006, 07:14
I'm going to have children even if it means I'll die at 60. I don't care.
Kyronea
04-09-2006, 07:57
Since I actually live two lives, I can't really answer this. (And no, people, I don't mean I live in two different homes.) I have one of the rarest gifts in the universe: the ability to control every aspect of a dream perfectly. So, I've been using that to live a second life--this one in the Star Trek universe, cause I'm a Trekkie, you see. I'm married there, and have a kid. A wonderful daughter. Shame I can't show her to anyone real.

...

Of course when I wake up I turn back into a rather overweight 19 year old who works at Wendy's. Frankly, I think I'd be happier in my dream world right now. Being single sucks. The happier you are, the longer you live. So, essentially: married=longer life.
Neo Undelia
04-09-2006, 08:09
Since I actually live two lives, I can't really answer this. (And no, people, I don't mean I live in two different homes.) I have one of the rarest gifts in the universe: the ability to control every aspect of a dream perfectly. So, I've been using that to live a second life--this one in the Star Trek universe, cause I'm a Trekkie, you see. I'm married there, and have a kid. A wonderful daughter. Shame I can't show her to anyone real.

...

Of course when I wake up I turn back into a rather overweight 19 year old who works at Wendy's. Frankly, I think I'd be happier in my dream world right now. Being single sucks. The happier you are, the longer you live. So, essentially: married=longer life.

I can't help but think that there is something wrong with you.
Kyronea
04-09-2006, 08:12
I can't help but think that there is something wrong with you.

I was actually being sarcastic about the whole thing. Nah, I really am working at Wendy's, and being single does suck, but no way in hell am I able to dream lucidly, as much as I wish.

(Something is wrong with me, however. I have an emotional disorder somewhat akin to bipolarism, in addition to seasonal disorder--that is, my mood changes as the seasons change.)
Not bad
04-09-2006, 08:14
I have one of the rarest gifts in the universe: the ability to control every aspect of a dream perfectly.

...
.

Im not sure whether I envy this talent or not.
Neo Undelia
04-09-2006, 08:15
I was actually being sarcastic about the whole thing. Nah, I really am working at Wendy's, and being single does suck, but no way in hell am I able to dream lucidly, as much as I wish.
I wouldn't call that sarcasm. I'd call that wierd.
Something is wrong with me, however. I have an emotional disorder somewhat akin to bipolarism, in addition to seasonal disorder--that is, my mood changes as the seasons change.)

Well, that's certainly unfortunate.
Not bad
04-09-2006, 08:16
I was actually being sarcastic about the whole thing. Nah, I really am working at Wendy's, and being single does suck, but no way in hell am I able to dream lucidly, as much as I wish.

(Something is wrong with me, however. I have an emotional disorder somewhat akin to bipolarism, in addition to seasonal disorder--that is, my mood changes as the seasons change.)

Now Im sure I dont envy you.
Kyronea
04-09-2006, 08:26
I wouldn't call that sarcasm. I'd call that wierd.


Well, that's certainly unfortunate.

You haven't learned I'm weird yet? How interesting.

And yes, yes it is.

Not bad: Good for you. I don't care.
Not bad
04-09-2006, 08:37
Not bad: Good for you.

Thanks
Avika
04-09-2006, 09:57
lives shortest:
marrying the first thing you saw
being single
marrying someone other than the first slutty prostitute that did not say "not on our first date".
lives longest:

I say every couple has one child. We'll all live longer AND our population will go down. Face it: the more people there are, the less valuable and vital each one is. Nuke a third world nation and you'll lower the poverty rate in a way that's more humane than just letting them all starve to death or die a slow death of disease.
Willamena
04-09-2006, 09:59
Do single, childess people live 25% longer
If you saw it in a poll, it must be true. Especially if you saw it on the Internet.
Kraggistan
04-09-2006, 10:13
For me, it doesn't matter wether I live 25% longer or not. It's the quality that matters. If my life would be 35% better if I am single it would be better to live a single life 25% shorter than a life in a relationship (how the heck you would measure this is another matter). And even if couples lives 25% longer, it odesn't mean that YOU will live 25% longer, so it seems like a stupid reason to get together with someone. Hell, I can die tomorrow by a frak accident.

Then I think that the studys done may not measure what they say they measure. Certain people may want to live a single life and other as a couple. The singles propbably go get drunk and smoka (and do other drugs), can have sex with more people etc. that may shorten their life while the couples have a more healthy life. This is of course a bit of a generlization, but you get my point right? So what this studys may do is not measure if couples live longer life then singles, they measure how long different life styles lives.
Myrmidonisia
04-09-2006, 12:53
Or live longer than married couples with at least one kid? I'm curious to know what you think.

Ask an insurance actuary. They live for statistics. Or google up some actuarial tables for life expectancy.

I've read over and over, that married people live longer than singles. Don't know how the child might affect things.
New Domici
04-09-2006, 13:46
Or live longer than married couples with at least one kid? I'm curious to know what you think.

Why does it matter what we think?

Is there actual data on this?

Reality is not subject to polls.
New Domici
04-09-2006, 13:53
Ask an insurance actuary. They live for statistics. Or google up some actuarial tables for life expectancy.

I've read over and over, that married people live longer than singles. Don't know how the child might affect things.

Generally, married men live longer than single men. Single women live longer than married women. Marriage seems to cause stress that shortens life, but men take poor care of themselves and will be more likely to avail themselves of good medical care with a wife who tells them "have you had that thing checked out? Why not? It could be something really bad? Don't you care about what this family would have to do without you? You need to take better care of yourself!..."

However, the slight negative impact on women's lifespans might be wholly made up of a few women who get killed by their estranged husbands while still quite young.

That's the thing about statistics. If 4 women get married and 3 of them live to 80 because their husbands make their lives easier and one of them gets killed at 20 when her husband flies into a jealous rage then those married women have an average lifespan of 65. But if 4 women don't get married and die at 70, when an average woman's lifespan is 77, then it still appears that the single life is better for women even though for 3 out of 4 it's better to be married.
CanuckHeaven
04-09-2006, 14:10
Nuke a third world nation and you'll lower the poverty rate in a way that's more humane than just letting them all starve to death or die a slow death of disease.
Yes, it is so much better spending $300 Billion dollars killing innocent people rather than helping them to survive. :rolleyes:
Lunatic Goofballs
04-09-2006, 14:11
Or live longer than married couples with at least one kid? I'm curious to know what you think.

Reminds me of the old joke; 'Why do women outlive men?'












































'Because they don't marry women.' :D
Deep Kimchi
04-09-2006, 14:18
http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB5018/index1.html