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Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. Despite the fact that it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the church thing. She ranted on about how we're connected to Wal-Mart, and how the R.C.C. was a tower of greed and corruption etc. Alright look, I know that the Roman Catholic Church is not perfect. I know that it has blood on it hands, but what organization doesn't? I mean the Roman Catholic Church is made up of humans, humans are falliable, so thereforth the Church is going to be falliable. Of course I offered to take her to Mass to see what we're really like, you know educate her alittle. Hell I even thought about having us agree to disagree and try to go on a second date. However, all of my sincerest attempts of enlighting her that her views on Catholicism were misguided, did not work. What irks me though, is that I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior, I know that he died on the cross for me, and for my sin, and without him, and grace from God I would not get into Heaven. However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic. God sometimes I don't understand my fellow Christians.

Look on the bright side, if you weren't Catholic, you would have had to waste more time going out with her before you released how unreasonable and judgemental she is.

I read a textbook that said something similar before. Ignorant people are incredibly annoying, particularly when they won't listen because then there's nothing you can do. There's all the sympathy you want here.

Look on the bright side, if you weren't Catholic, you would have had to waste more time going out with her before you released how unreasonable and judgemental she is.

True. Hmm maybe I should take a trip to Mexico/Central and South America sometimes. Hot Latina and Catholics! :D

She's a nihilist. She'd probably try to cut off your johnson.

feel better?:p

I think catholics are unsung victims of prejudice, the KKK is against catholicism, so were a myriad of groups in the early 20th century suh as the know-nothing party....one of the main reason the irish were hated and feared is becaue they were catholic, heck people were afraid JFK was going to hand over the keys to the white house to the pope:rolleyes:

I don't consider you christian either.

It's her loss, not yours. :)

I don't consider you christian either.

and why not?

Catholicism rules. Oh, and all other Christians don't.

and why not?
Erm, because?

and why not?

don't take the bait....

don't take the bait....

yea, I had enough for one night. Eh if people like her don't want to consider me Christian, and be judgemental, that's their right. They're going to have to answear for it in the after life anyways.

Bah, Christianity! Everyone knows that the one true faith is Yankovicism, the church dedicated to "Weird" Al Yankovic. *nods*

yea, I had enough for one night. Eh if people like her don't want to consider me Christian, and be judgemental, that's their right. They're going to have to answear for it in the after life anyways.
If God tries to send me to hell, I'll just blackmail him.

I have to say, the Holy See and his Church may have started out this whole christian church thing. But its gone a long way since then.
Now, I wouldn't condemn a Catholic for his choice by any means. But at this point, I'd say calling a Catholic Christian, is only a little less innacuate than calling a Mormon one.

(Puts on Asbestos Suit)

I am sad to say, that I have to try to not automatically hate most christians.

Now, I know that this is wrong, and many of them are good, decent people.
I know this.

But, many of the ones I see most often, are the nutjob assholes, who carry themselves as anything BUT the example Christ (supposedly) set for them.
In fact, in a way, NS General has a small role to play.
Some of the christians on this very site are hopelessly retarded, and chose God, instead of a brain.

You know who you are.

I used to think that the examples I saw most often, were the worst of the crop. Like the old saying goes, "The idiot that shouts the loudest, will be the one that gets heard."

In other words, the Christians you see on T.V, and on the internet, were nothing like the ones where you live, which are mostly ordinary folks who attend church.

But that gets less and less true, every day.

More and more of the ones I meet, are the types you see on the news,or Jerry Springer.

My town has more churches per capita, than any other city on the world.
So we have all kinds of all denominations.
The worst, of course, are the Fundies, and the Born-agains.
Sometimes they can be both.

Retards.

The sort that goes in for Intelligent Design, and are PISSED that it isnt mandatorily taught in schools.
The irony is, that all of these folks already send thier own kids to Parochial Schools. (We have several)

So whats the fucking commotion?

Becuase theyre the ones that believe that THIER value system, is the BEST, and ONLY, and if you dont agree, you will BURN IN HELL, LIKE THE HEATHEN SHITHEAD THAT YOU ARE!!!!!11111ONE.

So, as you see, I struggle with not disliking people, of the christian faith.
Its tough sometimes, and I know its my own personal shortcoming, but man, you guys sure as Hell make it tough sometimes.

feel better?:p

I think catholics are unsung victims of prejudice, the KKK is against catholicism, so were a myriad of groups in the early 20th century suh as the know-nothing party....one of the main reason the irish were hated and feared is becaue they were catholic, heck people were afraid JFK was going to hand over the keys to the white house to the pope:rolleyes:

Thanks to Pyotr, for providing todays social studies lesson.

The "P" in W.A.S.P, stand for "Protestant".

This has been your Substitute Teacher, Backwoodssquatches, with Today's Lesson.

If God tries to send me to hell, I'll just blackmail him.

You got his phone tapped?

In America, girlfriend judges you, in Soviet Russia, you both get arrested and sent to Siberia!
What a country!
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My favorite Jerry had this black guy, who wanted to join the KKK because he hated black people's hair.

Sounds to me like she's been reading Jack Chick tracts.
If so, there's no hope for her at all.

You got his phone tapped?
No, but this one time at band camp he knocked up a virgin--when she was asleep!

He couldn't even tell her in person; he had to get one of his friends to do it for him.

I am sad to say, that I have to try to not automatically hate most christians.

Now, I know that this is wrong, and many of them are good, decent people.
I know this.

But, many of the ones I see most often, are the nutjob assholes, who carry themselves as anything BUT the example Christ (supposedly) set for them.
In fact, in a way, NS General has a small role to play.
Some of the christians on this very site are hopelessly retarded, and chose God, instead of a brain.

I don't get those type either, NO one can measure up to Christ, because Christ is God in human form, IE without fault. Since humans are falliable by nature, we're always going to fall short.

I used to think that the examples I saw most often, were the worst of the crop. Like the old saying goes, "The idiot that shouts the loudest, will be the one that gets heard."

In other words, the Christians you see on T.V, and on the internet, were nothing like the ones where you live, which are mostly ordinary folks who attend church.

Eh those were the days. Of course now the Christians denomination are in a civil war trying to see who can be the holiest.

More and more of the ones I meet, are the types you see on the news,or Jerry Springer.

My town has more churches per capita, than any other city on the world.
So we have all kinds of all denominations.
The worst, of course, are the Fundies, and the Born-agains.
Sometimes they can be both.

I thought they were one and of the same.


The sort that goes in for Intelligent Design, and are PISSED that it isnt mandatorily taught in schools.
The irony is, that all of these folks already send thier own kids to Parochial Schools. (We have several)

So whats the fucking commotion?

They almost got to the part about seperation of church and state, and fell asleep.

Becuase theyre the ones that believe that THIER value system, is the BEST, and ONLY, and if you dont agree, you will BURN IN HELL, LIKE THE HEATHEN SHITHEAD THAT YOU ARE!!!!!11111ONE.

Don't forget that every Pope in the 20th Century is the Anti-Christ and that because I'm Cat-Lick (yes they actually use this term) that I automatically go to hell. Hey, at least I get all of the hot latinas if I do.

So, as you see, I struggle with not disliking people, of the christian faith.
Its tough sometimes, and I know its my own personal shortcoming, but man, you guys sure as Hell make it tough sometimes.

True.

My favorite Jerry had this black guy, who wanted to join the KKK because he hated black people's hair.

Sweet Crispy Jesus!

Thats dumb.

As dumb as my two personal favorites.

I worked in a donut shop, and some guy walks in and asks, "Hey...whats in them Lemon-Filled?"

Or..

My friend managed a pizza store in a town a few miles away from where we live.
Some lady calls in and wants to speak to a manager, to complain about her pizza.

She says:

"My pizza tastes like bread!"

*Long whistle*

Thats dumb.

I got one better. I once saw a mixed race guy (half white, half black) who is in the Klan. He had the little rope and everything. So, would this be a form of self hate?

No, but this one time at band camp he knocked up a virgin--when she was asleep!

He couldn't even tell her in person; he had to get one of his friends to do it for him.

At least he didn't txt her: "LOL I KNKD U UP NAME JC IF BOY" or something.

What a dumbass. Well, don't worry - just remember that it's her loss, not yours. :D

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I thought they were one and of the same.

Oh contraire, mon frere!


Born Agains are the like Non-Denominational.

The difference is, where you had to take Communion, and Catechism (sp?), they just do a quick speech with you, and BAM!, YER SAVED!

Now, the Born-Agains can be Fundamentalist in principle, but arent always.
For instance the B.A church with the largest congregation in my town, "The City of Beautiful Churches", are somewhat Liberal. (For a staunchly Republican, predominantly Christian city.

Ironically, they also get into the crazy dancing, and speaking in tounges, and possibly the ocassional flopping about on the carpet stuff.
Not everytime, but on the occasion.

So..around here, its all about the guy leading the church, and his particular political beliefs.

Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. Despite the fact that it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the church thing. She ranted on about how we're connected to Wal-Mart, and how the R.C.C. was a tower of greed and corruption etc. Alright look, I know that the Roman Catholic Church is not perfect. I know that it has blood on it hands, but what organization doesn't? I mean the Roman Catholic Church is made up of humans, humans are falliable, so thereforth the Church is going to be falliable. Of course I offered to take her to Mass to see what we're really like, you know educate her alittle. Hell I even thought about having us agree to disagree and try to go on a second date. However, all of my sincerest attempts of enlighting her that her views on Catholicism were misguided, did not work. What irks me though, is that I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior, I know that he died on the cross for me, and for my sin, and without him, and grace from God I would not get into Heaven. However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic. God sometimes I don't understand my fellow Christians.

look on the bright side, at least you wont be going to hell.
its odd, seeing as catholism is the original christian flavour while nihilsm is the spin off less favoured prawn cocktail.

Oh contraire, mon frere!


Born Agains are the like Non-Denominational.

The difference is, where you had to take Communion, and Catechism (sp?), they just do a quick speech with you, and BAM!, YER SAVED!

Now, the Born-Agains can be Fundamentalist in principle, but arent always.
For instance the B.A church with the largest congregation in my town, "The City of Beautiful Churches", are somewhat Liberal. (For a staunchly Republican, predominantly Christian city.

Ironically, they also get into the crazy dancing, and speaking in tounges, and possibly the ocassional flopping about on the carpet stuff.
Not everytime, but on the occasion.

So..around here, its all about the guy leading the church, and his particular political beliefs.


You got the spelling right on Catechism. and thanks for that bit of info. Sometimes, I look at my religion and wonder how many of them actually skipped over this part of the Bible.

Matthew 12:25:

"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand".

*sigh*

Alas the Born-Agains, The people following a blind man.

Not all of them but some of them just dont seem to know bugger all about there new 'Life-Direction' i was christian all my life so i have the experiance that they lack.

My favorite Jerry had this black guy, who wanted to join the KKK because he hated black people's hair.

In Sweden we had a police murderer (that has only has happened 2-3 times in modern time in Sweden) who was black and wanted to be a member of VAM (Vit Ariskt Motstånd = White Arian Resistance), so idiocy knows no boundary.

Bah, Christianity! Everyone knows that the one true faith is Yankovicism, the church dedicated to "Weird" Al Yankovic. *nods*
Well, I am living proof that the two are quite compatible. I own all his CDs (and am looking happily forward to the next! This September!)

Wilgrove, the girl's a crackhead and there's not much you can do. My girlfriend once had some neighbors move into the house across from them, and so her parents invited the newcomers over for dinner. They replied, "Sorry, we don't break bread with those outside our flock."

It never ceases to amuse me when one sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists gets a dose of their own medicine from another sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists.

I'd try not to point & laugh, but then.. It's either that or crying over how sad it is that sentient beings willingly disavow rational thinking & autonomy, and honestly.. I prefer laughing.

It never ceases to amuse me when one sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists gets a dose of their own medicine from another sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists.

I'd try not to point & laugh, but then.. It's either that or crying over how sad it is that sentient beings willingly disavow rational thinking & autonomy, and honestly.. I prefer laughing.
Hey! That's not funny! We Christians have a sense of humor too! We can laugh! We don't take everything seriously!

Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. Despite the fact that it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the church thing. She ranted on about how we're connected to Wal-Mart, and how the R.C.C. was a tower of greed and corruption etc. Alright look, I know that the Roman Catholic Church is not perfect. I know that it has blood on it hands, but what organization doesn't? I mean the Roman Catholic Church is made up of humans, humans are falliable, so thereforth the Church is going to be falliable. Of course I offered to take her to Mass to see what we're really like, you know educate her alittle. Hell I even thought about having us agree to disagree and try to go on a second date. However, all of my sincerest attempts of enlighting her that her views on Catholicism were misguided, did not work. What irks me though, is that I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior, I know that he died on the cross for me, and for my sin, and without him, and grace from God I would not get into Heaven. However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic. God sometimes I don't understand my fellow Christians.

Em ok your better off. She'll probably end up married to her brother anyway so you got out early!

[QUOTE=Wilgrove;11623733] Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. QUOTE]

Dude, I think shes having a laugh

Never heard of a nihilistic sect to be christian - would not make any sense at all:

Nihilism is a philosophical position which argues that the world, and especially human existence, is without objective meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. Nihilists generally assert some or all of the following: there is no reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator, a "true morality" is unknown, and secular ethics are impossible; therefore, life has no truth, and no action is known to be preferable to any other.

Either way you are better off!

Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) ...

Was she pulling your leg? Nihilism is a form of philosophy, AFAIK it's mainly (completely?) atheistic and opposed to traditional Christianity. How could she possibly be complaining that you aren't Christian? I don't get this at all - it doesn't seem to make sense.

It never ceases to amuse me when one sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists gets a dose of their own medicine from another sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists.

I'd try not to point & laugh, but then.. It's either that or crying over how sad it is that sentient beings willingly disavow rational thinking & autonomy, and honestly.. I prefer laughing.

Fools! Turning down free food? Absurd!

You got his phone tapped?

or are you his auditor, collecting all the "dirt" on Him in a file in case He tries to leave the universe?

Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. Despite the fact that it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the church thing. She ranted on about how we're connected to Wal-Mart, and how the R.C.C. was a tower of greed and corruption etc. Alright look, I know that the Roman Catholic Church is not perfect. I know that it has blood on it hands, but what organization doesn't? I mean the Roman Catholic Church is made up of humans, humans are falliable, so thereforth the Church is going to be falliable. Of course I offered to take her to Mass to see what we're really like, you know educate her alittle. Hell I even thought about having us agree to disagree and try to go on a second date. However, all of my sincerest attempts of enlighting her that her views on Catholicism were misguided, did not work. What irks me though, is that I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior, I know that he died on the cross for me, and for my sin, and without him, and grace from God I would not get into Heaven. However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic. God sometimes I don't understand my fellow Christians.


Generalizations like that are what give protestants like me a bad name. There is no set denomination that is Christian or not Christian. Legalistic, judgemental baptists who don't care a lick about Jesus above their own social status and money aren't a lick more christian than the Roman Catholics who care more about their rituals and heirarchy then Christ. You cannot judge a person based on premade generalizations.

Her: We believe in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing. And tomorrow we come back and we cut off your chonson.
You: Excuse me?
Her: I said "We'll cut off your johnson"!
Her: Just you think about that, Lebowski.
Other girl: Yeah, your wiggly penis, Lebowski.
Her: Yeah and maybe we stomp on it and squoosh it, Lebowski.

:D

ask her

"what is a Christian?"


and then use scripture to prove to her that she is wrong. ;)

Generalizations like that are what give protestants like me a bad name. There is no set denomination that is Christian or not Christian. Legalistic, judgemental baptists who don't care a lick about Jesus above their own social status and money aren't a lick more christian than the Roman Catholics who care more about their rituals and heirarchy then Christ. You cannot judge a person based on premade generalizations.

what's that about Baptists again?:eek:

Can we all agree that judgmental Christians of WHATEVER stripe have completely missed the point of Christ's teachings?

So..around here, its all about the guy leading the church, and his particular political beliefs.

Well at least I know I'm not alone in this anymore. I'm a Pentacostal Christian, I weep while praying sometimes, but man. I think my pastor knows more Bible than science.

"They dug a 7 mile hole in Siberia, and then they lowered down the microphone, and it melted!" -Pastor

Erm. 7 Miles down. Magma. And is a 7 mile hole even possible?

Also, I must agree with your other post. It seems that people like Jerry Falwell & Fred Phelps get all the attention while the normal Christian dude gets nothing. Believing in any religion is fine. But fundamentalism and religious propaganda leads to the destruction of the Faith.

Can we all agree that judgmental Christians of WHATEVER stripe have completely missed the point of Christ's teachings?

Yup, The penniless rabbi taught us many things, fortunately "judge thy neighboor by his cloak and sandals" wasn't one of them.

Can we all agree that judgmental Christians of WHATEVER stripe have completely missed the point of Christ's teachings?

I will agree with that. :)

hey, dude, I totally understand. People always ask if Catholics worship Mary, and why we don't eat meat on Fridays, and why we take communion on the tongue. In a rude manner, that is. Like, "Why the heck don't you eat meat on Fridays? What's the point of praying to a saint?" and I totally know all the subtle differences between denominations so don't even ask me.

I hate Christians sometimes, too.

first off the catholic church was not the starting church the first churches are in egypt and isriale. they are all orthodox controled for the most part. that is one thing i hate about catholics is that they forget about the orthodox church which they had abandoned

Can we all agree that judgmental Christians of WHATEVER stripe have completely missed the point of Christ's teachings?

Yeah. Pretty much.

His doctrine is a great way to avoid being a tool.

Well, I am living proof that the two are quite compatible. I own all his CDs (and am looking happily forward to the next! This September!)

Let's make his stuff our national anthems. I call dibs on either "wanna b ur lovr" or "eat it".

Did she maybe see something in you that made her not want to date you? Any visable scars or missing limbs?

i've never been in an orthodox church. the one thing that pisses me off about catholics is when they have really ugly modern churches and their music is some crap from the seventies. and that makes me sad, but I still always give them money, because I'm hoping they'll give it to poor people or hire a new music director.

Piekrom;11647997']first off the catholic church was not the starting church the first churches are in egypt and isriale. they are all orthodox controled for the most part. that is one thing i hate about catholics is that they forget about the orthodox church which they had abandoned

Pssst. There are older dead Religions.

I will agree with that. :)

Really? What was that comparison about witchcraft?

Let's make his stuff our national anthems. I call dibs on either "wanna b ur lovr" or "eat it".

Did she maybe see something in you that made her not want to date you? Any visable scars or missing limbs?

dude, whenever you're dating a wench, make sure you're wearing your eyepatch because otherwise it can be very embarrassing. this one time I went a-courtin' and I left me wooden leg in the carriage. took me almost through the evenin' ter figure it out. boy, was my face red.

Can we all agree that judgmental Christians of WHATEVER stripe have completely missed the point of Christ's teachings?

Well.... cant we just this once make an exception for those that are judgemental of intolerant Christians?

I don't get those type either, NO one can measure up to Christ, because Christ is God in human form, IE without fault. Since humans are falliable by nature, we're always going to fall short.

christ was not god in human form he was god and human both at once do not fall into the hearisys of the ancient days.

As far as christianity is concerned black forest the orthodox church is the oldest. I am coptic orthodox our church was started by St. Mark at around 45 ad. yes the same St. Mark who wrote the gosple of St. Mark

So many kinds of christians. its better here in england we just have protestants and catholics. im not sure which is which, but for some reason in Ireland protestants are dicks.

I didnt think nihilists could be religious, at least not in an organised way. anyone who wont go out with someone of another denomination, never mind other religion, is a retard.

It never ceases to amuse me when one sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists gets a dose of their own medicine from another sect of anti-moral, ill-behaved schizo-cultists.

I'd try not to point & laugh, but then.. It's either that or crying over how sad it is that sentient beings willingly disavow rational thinking & autonomy, and honestly.. I prefer laughing.

Kinda funny you're making sweeping generalizations about people, and then complaining about them.

I'm a Roman Catholic. I was not born a Catholic, I was not baptised or raised in a church. As I grew older, I felt like I was missing something, and I found that something in prayer and worship.

I, not anyone else, decided to become a Catholic. It was not forced on me in any way.

At this point you could make the judgement that I'm totally irrational. I'm not, thank you muchly. I believe in all hard sciences, and the things they entail. Nothing in the Bible says science is wrong. I am not irrational nor am I giving up my autonomy, because I chose my church.

In those regards, I choose to follow certain things and not others. Birth control happens, because I believe God would rather me NOT have children I couldn't possibly support. That's a stupid rule of the church, and it ought to be changed.

Before you dismiss people with faith as totally irrational, think on the fact that many prominent scientists have faith as well.

So, before you point and laugh at people who are being "irrational", perhaps you could take a look at the sweeping generalizations you've made, and amend them to something more fitting?

edit: To the OP:

You're better off without her, she's a psycho. I also feel your annoyance with other Christians at times. I work in a restaraunt and often the "tip" for our servers is a fucking religious pamphlet. THANKS! THAT WILL REALLY PAY MY BILLS.

However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic.

That's lame. There are plenty of denominations and types of Christians that believe what is necessary but argue about stupid small stuff.

She's a nihilist. She'd probably try to cut off your johnson.

"We wants the money Lebowski or else we cuts off your johnson. We cares for nuzzing!"

Really? What was that comparison about witchcraft?

what? when?

LMAO, this is hilarious, not for you but in a few days, weeks, years maybe.

she is not an example of a christian, i will go as far as saying she is only "christian" because she is told she is chrisitian. she may go to church (because she has to) and she may pray (because she is told she should) but that may be the extent of it. sounds like she is an empty mind that people have stuffed with telling her who she "is" and should "be".

Let's make his stuff our national anthems. I call dibs on either "wanna b ur lovr" or "eat it".
OK... I'll take one of my fundamentalist nations and make the national anthem "Amish Paradise". I think this nation will be "The Night Santa Went Crazy".
LMAO, this is hilarious, not for you but in a few days, weeks, years maybe.

she is not an example of a christian, i will go as far as saying she is only "christian" because she is told she is chrisitian. she may go to church (because she has to) and she may pray (because she is told she should) but that may be the extent of it. sounds like she is an empty mind that people have stuffed with telling her who she "is" and should "be".
I generally consider a Christian to be someone who believes in the Trinity and wants to follow Christ's teachings. By that definition, she ain't because Christ spent a lot of time talking about love and acceptance and equality, and if she's discriminating based on religion (not just religion, but denomination!), that's extremely unchristian.

If it’s any conciliation, I think you’re all equally unreasonable.

what's that about Baptists again?:eek:

Hey now, I'm a Baptist.

Catholics not being Christian eh? I always figured as a Catholic I belonged to the Christian community...

Catholics not being Christian eh? I always figured as a Catholic I belonged to the Christian community...

Not to her. Oh and she contacted me yesterday, she was not a Nihilist she was a Southern Baptist. Actually makes a lot more sense.

Has she given specific reasons why she does not believe Catholics, or any other branches of Christianity for that matter, are not part of the her view of christianity?

Has she given specific reasons why she does not believe Catholics, or any other branches of Christianity for that matter, are not part of the her view of christianity?

Well first you got to understand, she did it in a fashion that was like well like if someone says one thing, and you debunk it. After you debunk it, they pull something out of their ass to counter that. As to why she doesn't believe Catholics are Christian, well to her (from what I can gather in her ranting) is that A. We worship Mary B. We apparently sponser Wal-Mart and Pope Benedict XVI is the CEO. C. We call our service Mass because we're a mass of non believers.

Basically she just spat out talking points fed to her by her pastor, nothing of actual substance.

Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. Despite the fact that it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the church thing. She ranted on about how we're connected to Wal-Mart, and how the R.C.C. was a tower of greed and corruption etc. Alright look, I know that the Roman Catholic Church is not perfect. I know that it has blood on it hands, but what organization doesn't? I mean the Roman Catholic Church is made up of humans, humans are falliable, so thereforth the Church is going to be falliable. Of course I offered to take her to Mass to see what we're really like, you know educate her alittle. Hell I even thought about having us agree to disagree and try to go on a second date. However, all of my sincerest attempts of enlighting her that her views on Catholicism were misguided, did not work. What irks me though, is that I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior, I know that he died on the cross for me, and for my sin, and without him, and grace from God I would not get into Heaven. However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic. God sometimes I don't understand my fellow Christians.

You should have lied and told here, at least you were THINKing of converting to whatever her sect is. Or that you already were a member. Anything so long as it ended up with her having sex with you. Thats really all that maters. Her brain is obviously shyte, but I bet oyu would have gotten an extra special thrill from penetrating a protestant with your evil catholic demon seed! :D

Bah, Christianity! Everyone knows that the one true faith is Yankovicism, the church dedicated to "Weird" Al Yankovic. *nods*
If I believed in that type of god, I'd say "Al" was overdue for a smiting.

What a ridiculous twat. I hate that "Catholics aren't Christians" bullshit. Hell, if anything, it's the protestants who aren't Christians, since they're the ones who split with the original church. Fucking bullshit.

Pretty much, if you believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ, you're a Christian, hence the name. Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Congregationals, Anglicans, etc., are all just little subdivisions. At least you now know what an ignorant jerk she is.

Oh and she contacted me yesterday, she was not a Nihilist she was a Southern Baptist.

What's the difference?

What's the difference?
Maybe that nihilists are not christians at all?

OP: Bah, crazy protestants! I've never heard of nihilism being called a religion.

I am sad to say, that I have to try to not automatically hate most christians.
Do you live in the deepest, darkest South of the US?

They replied, "Sorry, we don't break bread with those outside our flock."
How unChristian of them.

Maybe that nihilists are not christians at all?


Certainly not all nilhilists are Christians... but I wouldn't say none are ;)

In case you missed it, I was being sarcastic.

Do you live in the deepest, darkest South of the US?


No indeed.

I live in a small northern midwest town of about 50,000 people.
It has more churches per capita than any other city, anywhere.

The unofficial religious capital of the world.

No indeed.

I live in a small northern midwest town of about 50,000 people.
It has more churches per capita than any other city, anywhere.

The unofficial religious capital of the world.
And all the Christians are far-right Bible-bashing zealots?

And all the Christians are far-right Bible-bashing zealots?

We get all kinds, of all denominations.

Sadly, more and more of them are "leaving the middle ground" shall we say.

What a ridiculous twat. I hate that "Catholics aren't Christians" bullshit. Hell, if anything, it's the protestants who aren't Christians, since they're the ones who split with the original church. Fucking bullshit.Meh, the eastern orthodoxy split off long before that. The church history is one long series of splits and conflicts. The catholic church didn't exist before the roman emperor Constantine forcibly clumped the various Christian sects together. Then there was the whole Arian fiasco, persecution of the gnostic sects (which couldn't fit into an organized religion), etc
There has never been just one Christian church. Well, not since two seconds after Jesus ascended to Heaven, anyway. The moment his back was turned, people started making a mess of things.

Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. Despite the fact that it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the church thing. She ranted on about how we're connected to Wal-Mart, and how the R.C.C. was a tower of greed and corruption etc. Alright look, I know that the Roman Catholic Church is not perfect. I know that it has blood on it hands, but what organization doesn't? I mean the Roman Catholic Church is made up of humans, humans are falliable, so thereforth the Church is going to be falliable. Of course I offered to take her to Mass to see what we're really like, you know educate her alittle. Hell I even thought about having us agree to disagree and try to go on a second date. However, all of my sincerest attempts of enlighting her that her views on Catholicism were misguided, did not work. What irks me though, is that I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior, I know that he died on the cross for me, and for my sin, and without him, and grace from God I would not get into Heaven. However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic. God sometimes I don't understand my fellow Christians.

Well, I'm sorry it worked out that way.

I won't marry a Roman Catholic. But I won't marry Pentacostals or Methodists or Episcolpalians or anyone other than a Presbyterian or a member of a Reformed Church. Why? Have you heard of equal yoking? Husband and wife are to be of the same spiritual maturity. That includes in doctrine. So, if I believe that the Roman Catholic Church (and the Pentacostals, the Methodists, etc.) have problems in their doctrine, why would I marry someone from those denominations? It would be especially difficult when it came to rearing children. So, it would be easier (if you don't beleive you are commanded) to marry someone a close to your doctrine as possible.

And in her defence, a lot of "Roman Catholics" aren't Christian. If there not Christian, they can't be Roman Catholic in actuallity, but because of the ritualistic aspect of the Mass and the service, it's easier for a nonbeliever to consider him/herself a Roman Catholic than it is a nonbeliever to consider him/herself a Methodist or any other denomination. Not that that's impossible in the other denominations, just harder or rarer.

Ok, so last night I went out on a date with this girl Beth. We had a great time, we went out to eat, and then just hung out, talk etc. We saw eye to eye on alot of stuff, we had the same sense of humor, and we both told each other that we had a good time. This was one of the best dates I had in awhile. Then today she dropped the bomb on me. She cannot go out with me because I'm not Christian. Yes, apparently nihilist (is that even a Christian sect?) do not consider Roman Catholics (which I am) to be Christian. Despite the fact that it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the church thing. She ranted on about how we're connected to Wal-Mart, and how the R.C.C. was a tower of greed and corruption etc. Alright look, I know that the Roman Catholic Church is not perfect. I know that it has blood on it hands, but what organization doesn't? I mean the Roman Catholic Church is made up of humans, humans are falliable, so thereforth the Church is going to be falliable. Of course I offered to take her to Mass to see what we're really like, you know educate her alittle. Hell I even thought about having us agree to disagree and try to go on a second date. However, all of my sincerest attempts of enlighting her that her views on Catholicism were misguided, did not work. What irks me though, is that I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior, I know that he died on the cross for me, and for my sin, and without him, and grace from God I would not get into Heaven. However, she had the nerve to call me a non-believer, just because I'm Catholic. God sometimes I don't understand my fellow Christians.

Not meaning to say you're an idiot, but you should've noticed that almost every person has no idea about any religion, sometimes including thier own and parts of their own. And believe me, they won't stand around to be educated, because they're all pretenious assholes who think they DO know everything about religion. Find someone like an NSer, whom you can actually teach about your religion.

And in her defence, a lot of "Roman Catholics" aren't Christian. If there not Christian, they can't be Roman Catholic in actuallity, but because of the ritualistic aspect of the Mass and the service, it's easier for a nonbeliever to consider him/herself a Roman Catholic than it is a nonbeliever to consider him/herself a Methodist or any other denomination. Not that that's impossible in the other denominations, just harder or rarer.

Catholicism is a faith based on the teaching of Jesus Christ. It is base on the fact that Jesus was not only the Son of God, but God in human form. We also believe that Jesus died for our sins and that through him that we can enter Heaven. So ergo, that makes us a Christian denomination.

Catholicism is a faith based on the teaching of Jesus Christ. It is base on the fact that Jesus was not only the Son of God, but God in human form. We also believe that Jesus died for our sins and that through him that we can enter Heaven. So ergo, that makes us a Christian denomination.

I didn't say Roman Catholics aren't Christian. I said a lot of people claim to be Roman Catholic, but they aren't because they aren't Christian and therefore, can't be Roman Catholic.

I didn't say Roman Catholics aren't Christian. I said a lot of people claim to be Roman Catholic, but they aren't because they aren't Christian and therefore, can't be Roman Catholic.

You could easily say that a lot of people who call themselves Christians but not Roman Catholics are Christians in name only, the "Christmas and Easter" type.

I'm a little surprised a self-proclaimed Nihilist even cares what religion you profess, since, as the Wiki article says, "Nihilism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism)is a philosophical position which argues that the world, and especially human existence, is without objective meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. Nihilists generally assert some or all of the following: there is no reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator, a "true morality" is unknown, and secular ethics are impossible; therefore, life has no truth, and no action is known to be preferable to any other."

Catholicism is a faith based on the teaching of Jesus Christ. It is base on the fact that Jesus was not only the Son of God, but God in human form. We also believe that Jesus died for our sins and that through him that we can enter Heaven. So ergo, that makes us a Christian denomination.

Depends on your point of view, you believe that certain core beliefs make you a Christian, the girl mentioned in the OP clearly believes that a closer adherence to what she views as true Christian doctrine is required. And off-hand I don't think you can prove her wrong. She's being judgemental and small-minded, but not necessarily definitively wrong.

You could easily say that a lot of people who call themselves Christians but not Roman Catholics are Christians in name only, the "Christmas and Easter" type.

I'm a little surprised a self-proclaimed Nihilist even cares what religion you profess, since, as the Wiki article says, "Nihilism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism)is a philosophical position which argues that the world, and especially human existence, is without objective meaning, purpose, comprehensible truth, or essential value. Nihilists generally assert some or all of the following: there is no reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator, a "true morality" is unknown, and secular ethics are impossible; therefore, life has no truth, and no action is known to be preferable to any other."

That's what I said in my first post on this thread. I just think it's easier for Roman Catholics to fall into that trap for various reasons.

Are you saying I claimed to be Nihilist? Because, I didn't and I reject that philosophy.

No indeed.

I live in a small northern midwest town of about 50,000 people.
It has more churches per capita than any other city, anywhere.

The unofficial religious capital of the world.

It wouldn't be in Illinois, would it?

I didn't say Roman Catholics aren't Christian. I said a lot of people claim to be Roman Catholic, but they aren't because they aren't Christian and therefore, can't be Roman Catholic.

Ahh, my bad.

That's what I said in my first post on this thread. I just think it's easier for Roman Catholics to fall into that trap for various reasons.

Are you saying I claimed to be Nihilist? Because, I didn't and I reject that philosophy.

No, not you as a nihilist, I thought Wilgrove said the Girl was, in the OP.

No, not you as a nihilist, I thought Wilgrove said the Girl was, in the OP.

Oh, okay.