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what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.then don't take the drugs!

If being their friend means you have to take the drugs, then find new friends!

I have friends who drink. they know I don't and they do respect me for that.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Then don't take the drugs. If they're worthy of friendship, they won't try to force you.

their not your friends, don't go. Believe me your health is much more important than a sleepover besides they won't hate you because you can't go, just make up some story why you can't go

then don't take the drugs!

If being their friend means you have to take the drugs, then find new friends!

I have friends who drink. they know I don't and they do respect me for that.

Ehh, have to agree. It may be hard, but it will be worth it.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

If you don't want to take drugs, don't take drugs.

It's that simple. You can find other friends.

I would offer my own bias on the particular drugs, but they're irrelevant to the point that you shouldn't do them just to fit in. (Although, that seems to be the reason most people start using them...)

then don't take the drugs!

If being their friend means you have to take the drugs, then find new friends!

I have friends who drink. they know I don't and they do respect me for that.

If you weren't right, I'd hate you for getting there first.:p

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Hmm, they're using speed and pot to stay up?

Use coffee, you'll be up longer than them.

Oh yeah, and if they need pot to watch the movies, they're probably rather shitty movies. Bad movies tend to seem better with pot.

If you take speed (if they're referring to meth) it is very likely you will fuck up your life and your health beyond all repair. If you like being healthy, being able to have sex and like having your teeth, stay away from meth. Amphetamine isn't as dangerous, but it is still very bad for you.

Pot? That's a different story; if you feel like it go for it but remember that your are smoking and it can damage your lungs. However, it's not addictive and has some benefits; only go for it if you want to try it and remember that the use of any drug can have negative side-effects. Compared to meth, though, it's nothing. It's not even as health-endangering as cigarettes or alcohol (in my opinion).

Anyone who forces you to use drugs is not your friend.

if you arent interesting in smoking marajuana and taking speed to stay up all night on saturday, tell them you arent interested and make other plans

friends dont have to spend all their free time together. there will always be things that your friends might want to do that you decline and things you would love to do that they say no to.

you have to be your own man sometime, may as well start now.

If you don't want to take their stuff, then don't. However, if they smoke around you, you'll probably have the smell, and so you might want to watch it if your parents are paranoid.
The important thing to remember is that if they get sufficiently wasted, you can lead them off into the woods in the middle of the night, steal their clothes (remember to rifle through those pockets!), and leave them stranded out there.
Designated Prankster is, after all, the most rewarding (both in financial and entertainment terms) title one can gain at any party.

their not your friends, don't go. Believe me your health is much more important than a sleepover besides they won't hate you because you can't go, just make up some story why you can't go

There's no need to lie. Just say no. Or maybe next time, if he might do it some other time. Not the drugs, mind you, but the sleep over or whatever it was.

Same here, let them know ahead of time that you don't want to join in with the drugs. If they give you a hard time about it, go to the movies instead.

Erm, don't go? Bit of a no-brainer, this one.

then don't take the drugs!

If being their friend means you have to take the drugs, then find new friends!

I have friends who drink. they know I don't and they do respect me for that.

seconded. Good lines to know

"well, then that's more pot for you guys"

"I am training for something and don't want to mess with my chemical make-up"

"I am trying to get a job and will probably need a drug test"

"my dad will literally kill me"

"no thank you"

and

"yeah, right so you guys can get me high and have your way with me, how stupid do you think I am?!"

all said in a smart assed tone, it will work I promise.

If you need a terrifying meth story........I can give you a few, I nearly died, I am still missing some teeth, and my skin is just starting to clear up 7 years after I quit.

Meth=double badness.

Erm, don't go? Bit of a no-brainer, this one.

Maybe the dopey OP will listen to a mod.:D

It depends. If you are strong willed enough to say no, you can go, but I advise against it.

Else, just don't bother.

if you can resist them, then don't go (in other words, if they are good friends who will not force you).

Don't do drugs if you are not ready to try them. Also, don't try them without having done your homework...know what to expect, the effects of the drugs, the risk of addiction, safe dosages...that kinda stuff. If you are comforable with all of the potential effects, then try it. If you have any doubts, don't.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Don't do em just because your friends want you to. If that affects your friendship, then you're not friends. You don't have to necessarily kill their good time, but you don't have to do drugs to join in. If you ever do decide to try these things, they should be on your terms and with a complete understanding that drugs have consequences. I've never done drugs. Not because of some goody-goody attitude, but because I've never needed to; I'm weird enough. :)

Don't do speed. Really.

If you don't want to take their stuff, then don't. However, if they smoke around you, you'll probably have the smell, and so you might want to watch it if your parents are paranoid.
The important thing to remember is that if they get sufficiently wasted, you can lead them off into the woods in the middle of the night, steal their clothes (remember to rifle through those pockets!), and leave them stranded out there.
Designated Prankster is, after all, the most rewarding (both in financial and entertainment terms) title one can gain at any party.

I like the cut of your jib! :D

Don't do em just because your friends want you to. If that affects your friendship, then you're not friends. You don't have to necessarily kill their good time, but you don't have to do drugs to join in. If you ever do decide to try these things, they should be on your terms and with a complete understanding that drugs have consequences. I've never done drugs. Not because of some goody-goody attitude, but because I've never needed to; I'm weird enough. :)

LG on speed....that is one disturbing image.



I picture uberfast serial wedgies for all.

I like the cut of your jib! :D
It's sound reasoning. It's why I don't drink at parties, it's MUCH more fun to be the only sober one, and the one to remember everything the next day. ;)

LG on speed....that is one disturbing image.



I picture uberfast serial wedgies for all.

Picture a laughing human wrecking ball.

Now add speed. :D

If you need a terrifying meth story........I can give you a few, I nearly died, I am still missing some teeth, and my skin is just starting to clear up 7 years after I quit.

Meth=double badness.

:eek:

Picture a laughing human wrecking ball.

Now add speed. :D
No, some images are just too scary to comtemplate.

And that is one of them.
;)

Picture a laughing human wrecking ball.

Now add speed. :D

with or without clothing?

Well, to be honest. I personally would go. ( I wouldn't take the speed, that's just too much man.)

I think you should go, and they will suggest you try some stuff, If you dont want to, dont. If they push it on you, fuck right off. They'll understand later.

You have had enough people tell you not to do the drugs if you don't want to, and I agree with them, but you also asked what effects the drugs have.

Speed:- (I assume this is straight amphetamines and not meth) This makes you hyper. You think that you are thinking faster and sharper than anyone and everyone. It also dramatically reduces any empathy that you might have - meaning that you couldn't care less about others around you. It does keep you awake. Think of it as an excessive amount of coffee, but with some potemntial for long term damage to your brain (overclocking synapses is no better for them than overclocking a cpu is for it - they burn out eventually.) It is not a drug that I like the effects of at all.

Pot - mj, hash, cannabis whatever you care to call it. The effects of this vary dramatically from person to person and from batch to batch. The principal effect is to make everything seem very relaxed and calm. Time starts to pass in strange leaps and lapses. Everything seems to take forever to do, but you fell that no time has passed at all when you have done it. Some people get mild hallucinations, but this is fairly rare. Often users get attacks of the giggles and nearly always they get the munchies - a ravenous desire to eat - preferably high sugar, high carb foods. There do not appear to be any major medical problems associated with use of just cannabis, but as noted above, if you smoke it, it is not good for your lungs. Cannabis can be eaten - in cookies, buns etc. but this is risky for the inexperienced user as the onset of the effects is slower and the effects tend to be longer lasting and more profound (It is less controllable in other words). It was the only illegal drug that I used with any regularity in the UK (Here the penalties are too harsh to make it worth while)

Whatever you do, do it from your own free choice. If you don't want to do something then say no, and if someone insists, then leave.

with or without clothing?

Yes. :)

Yes. :)

good answer.:)

Yes. :)

Oh...God...there's mud everywhere.

Oh...God...there's mud everywhere.

If you haven't been tackled by a half-drunk muddy goofball wearing nothing but a jockstrap, then you haven't been my friend very long. ;)

Better than any drug. :)

Oh...God...there's mud everywhere.
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what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

If you don't want to do it, don't let anyone pressure you into it.
If they won't be friends unless you do, then they're not really good people to be friends with.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.
As long as they don't force you and you try out of your own desire to explore yourself in a new way, it's not such a bad thing.

I would advise that for your first time, you don't try "speed" or anything like that. It is not an easy type of drug to begin with. A soft drug like Marijuana is a good way to experiament if you're unsure about the nature of hallucagenic drugs.

I suggest that you do some research first. Educate yourself. It's your choice. If someone forces you to try it, it's wrong and if someone gives you the wrong information and forces you to abstain, that's equally as bad.

It's a personal choice to make and you make it in a mature frame of mind.

I'm going to direct you to a very good site.

Erowid (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11623191)

For a direct link to information about Marijuana (or Cannabis), try these:
Erowid Cannabis (Marijuana) Vault (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis.shtml)
WIKI: Cannabis (drug) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29)

If you want to read firsthand accounts from various people who've used Marijuana, either for the first time, or for one of many, you can go here:
Cannabis Reports (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Cannabis.shtml)

Once you've educated yourself, you can, if you're curious go here for firsthand accounts for encounters with speed.

Speed, isn't like marijuana, it's an amphetamine. Think Crystal Meth.

Amphetamines (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amphetamines.shtml)

I'm only suggesting that you don't try the first time you do drugs because of the way this type of drug acts. While it is different for everyone, it is considered a to be a harder drug than Marijuana.

Methamphetamine (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/meth/meth.shtml)

Use the instant message links below my username if you want to talk.

I wear my bias on my sleeve on this one, but...

Don't.

Just don't.

I've seen heavy drug use destroy one too many lives (one!). It's just not worth the risk.

Tell your friends the truth, and if they have a problem with it... Well... They're pretty crappy friends.

If you need a terrifying meth story........I can give you a few, I nearly died, I am still missing some teeth, and my skin is just starting to clear up 7 years after I quit.

Meth=double badness.

Smunkee was on meth? That's unexpected...

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

first don't ask anyone here, because half the people here are probably high anyway. second just don't go. Or have them drink vodka instead.

Just be chill, go if you like, if you don't want to do drugs, just say your cool when they offer. If they persist, continue to refuse, but if it gets too uncomfotable, or they are being really insistent, or whatever, just bug off. And I would definitely say use the erowid links and such provided above for information as to effects.

Good luck.


Don't take any wooden nickels.

Abort!

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Don't do it. Just don't. Taking drugs is retarded. There is just no point to it. If these people are pressurising you into a) doing something you don't want to do and b) something which is dangerous then they're not your friends. Just a big pile of losers. You will find other friends and eh there is always us on NS if you're really stuck. Don't do drugs.

Smoke the pot.

Its very mild, if you dont go nutty with it.
Its relatively harmless, and actually fun.
If you dont like it, dont ever do it again.
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Dont take the pills.

Not much comes from pill-popping.
Mainly becuase so many of them are quite addictive.
I know lots of people who have vicodin habits.
and then...theres oxycontin....nasty stuff.

Smunkee was on meth? That's unexpected...

I got addicted at 15, I got kicked out of my parents house, ended up working 80 hours a week to support my drug habit and living in my car, I was near death when I went into court ordered drug therapy and wasn't even able to start the "therapy" part of it for like 2 weeks since I had to be admited into the "real hospital" because I hadn't eaten in 6 days or slept in about 5, once the drugs were out of my system I was still pretty sick. I still have life long effects, I am missing 6 teeth, luckily none of them are in the front, my skin is clearing up but it's taken a long time, it was really really bad. I have a hole in my heart valve which prevents me from doing a lot of the things I want to. My metabolism is screwed up, I didn't eat for so long that now it's hard for me to lose weight, my body thinks that I am going to go into starvation again so it keeps and stores whatever it can.

All of that is beside the fact that I can't remember much of anything from 15 on, that I have a messed up relationship with most of my family, that I am emotionally a wreck a lot of the time because I didn't deal with any of my emotions for so long that now I am unable to a lot of the time, and then the fact that I just don't feel too great about myself because I did get so screwed up.

I have been clean for almost 7 years (September 9th).

I got addicted at 15, I got kicked out of my parents house, ended up working 80 hours a week to support my drug habit and living in my car, I was near death when I went into court ordered drug therapy and wasn't even able to start the "therapy" part of it for like 2 weeks since I had to be admited into the "real hospital" because I hadn't eaten in 6 days or slept in about 5, once the drugs were out of my system I was still pretty sick. I still have life long effects, I am missing 6 teeth, luckily none of them are in the front, my skin is clearing up but it's taken a long time, it was really really bad. I have a hole in my heart valve which prevents me from doing a lot of the things I want to. My metabolism is screwed up, I didn't eat for so long that now it's hard for me to lose weight, my body thinks that I am going to go into starvation again so it keeps and stores whatever it can.

All of that is beside the fact that I can't remember much of anything from 15 on, that I have a messed up relationship with most of my family, that I am emotionally a wreck a lot of the time because I didn't deal with any of my emotions for so long that now I am unable to a lot of the time, and then the fact that I just don't feel too great about myself because I did get so screwed up.

I have been clean for almost 7 years (September 9th).

Congrats. It must have been the hardest time in your life. But your still here. You're very brave Smunk.

It's sound reasoning. It's why I don't drink at parties, it's MUCH more fun to be the only sober one, and the one to remember everything the next day. ;)
Oh, funny thing to do to drunks: stay sober and offer to drive them as many as you can fit in your car home. Stop at every gas station on the way, get out and pretend to fill it up. Then charge them for the gas. (just make sure they still have money before you cram them into your car:p).:cool:
If you haven't been tackled by a half-drunk muddy goofball wearing nothing but a jockstrap, then you haven't been my friend very long. ;)

Better than any drug. :)
I'm glad I'm not your friend.:D
If you don't want to do it, don't let anyone pressure you into it.
If they won't be friends unless you do, then they're not really good people to be friends with.
Will you be my friend?:):p
Don't do it. Just don't. Taking drugs is retarded. There is just no point to it. If these people are pressurising you into a) doing something you don't want to do and b) something which is dangerous then they're not your friends. Just a big pile of losers. You will find other friends and eh there is always us on NS if you're really stuck. Don't do drugs.
Hey! We losers don't want them classed with us!:mad:
Congrats. It must have been the hardest time in your life. But your still here. You're very brave Smunk.
Admirably so.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

WTF are you asking us for? THINK FOR YOURSELF

WTF are you asking us for? THINK FOR YOURSELF
If you want someone to think for themselves, then provide them with the tools to make an informed decision.

I haven't see anyone of you people suggest that NYCT looks at sources about the drugs they're asking about.

Clicky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11623554&postcount=36) for post that has somthing other than redundant tripe being spouted by those who have been feed from the War on Drugs feeding trough

If you don't want to do drugs then dont. If they cant handle that then just tell them there will be more for them and youll make sure they dont do anything stupid. That way you can keep your friends and not do drugs.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Suggest that instead of taking drugs you should go out and tip cows instead.

Stay away from the speed, seriously. A little weed won't kill you but keep in mind its illegal. Just do what you think is right.

Suggest that instead of taking drugs you should go out and tip cows instead.


http://www.headcasebriefs.com/No%20Cow%20Tipping-tm.jpg

Go, smoke all the pot, do all the speed. You won't regret it.

Go, smoke all the pot, do all the speed. You won't regret it.

Don't listen to this guy

Don't listen to this guy

No, instead, do whatever this guys says.

http://www.vikingmagiccompany.com/ama/med/straitjacket_new1.jpg

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

If you don't feel like doing it, don't. Speed is a loser's drug anyway.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

It's a no brainer. If you don't want to take drugs then don't. In fact, if you don't want to take drugs and you know they will be there don't go. :headbang:

Go, smoke all the pot, do all the speed. You won't regret it.
What's wrong with you? Don't tell a kid to go out and do crank. It's a dangerous and fucked up drug. Adults should have the right to fuck their lives up on it, but it should definitely be kept away from kids.
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What's wrong with you? Don't tell a kid to go out and do crank. It's a dangerous and fucked up drug. Adults should have the right to fuck their lives up on it, but it should definitely be kept away from kids.

If he values the opinions of anonymous online advice-givers that much to do whatever they say, I'm afraid he won't be going anywhere in life anyway.

If he values the opinions of anonymous online advice-givers that much to do whatever they say, I'm afraid he won't be going anywhere in life anyway.

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what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.


I love the pot and hate the speed. I've done a lot of speed and at one time liked it but now I regret it. If you can convince your 'friends' (they are not your friends if liking depends on you doing drugs) not to smoke it especially because the problems they have with their teeth will be extreemly bad in the future (google Meth Mouth, and have your friends do the same) *shudders*

I think you should not do drugs if you don't want to. If you do the drugs when you don't want to then I wont like you anymore :p

Don't take the drugs. If they pressure you, ditch them.

No, instead, do whatever this guys says.

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He's the perfect adviser. A woman like that is an even better one. *nods*
What's wrong with you? Don't tell a kid to go out and do crank. It's a dangerous and fucked up drug. Adults should have the right to fuck their lives up on it, but it should definitely be kept away from kids.
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Quoted for the picture.;)
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Quoted for hilarity!:D

actually I better just post a few pictures of meth mouth to scare you away from the shit permanently:


http://www.ada.org/prof/resources/pubs/adanews/images/050818_closeup02.jpg

http://www.ada.org/images/public/topics/methmouth01_sm.jpg

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2005/aug/methmouth/methmouth200.jpg

Don't do speed.. that's just.. stupid..

I likes me somez weed, but it's not for everyone..

You might be allergic.. you might not get a good high, you might not even like it..

If you're not ready to try weed, then maybe you shouldn't go.

It'd be boring because they's all be laughing at the wall and you'd be soberly confused..

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Pot messed up my life.I lost a lot of money an friends.It doesnt do that to everyone tho,some are fine with it, and in the grand scheme of things, pot wont do much damage.I would advise you to stay away from speed.If your friends tell you to take this or that dont be pushed.If they make fun because you dont want to, they are bad friends.Try pot, but be carful not to have to much, It has been linked with psychosis, so if you are predisposed to mental health problems(or have them) avoid it.Just stay away from speed.My friend got very ill through it.be careful and dont be pushed into ANYTHING YOU DONT WANT TO DO!!!!

actually I better just post a few pictures of meth mouth to scare you away from the shit permanently:


http://www.ada.org/prof/resources/pubs/adanews/images/050818_closeup02.jpg

http://www.ada.org/images/public/topics/methmouth01_sm.jpg

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2005/aug/methmouth/methmouth200.jpg

As much as I want to hate you for that, I feel I should thank you for adequately warning about that terrible side effect. One of many, I might add.

Congrats. It must have been the hardest time in your life. But your still here. You're very brave Smunk.

Indeed, well, you must be really brave...:)

As much as I want to hate you for that, I feel I should thank you for adequately warning about that terrible side effect. One of many, I might add.


I want to hate me for it to.

unfortunately, yes, there are many terrible side effects to it but playing off of peoples vanity seems to be the best way to go.

I want to hate me for it to.

unfortunately, yes, there are many terrible side effects to it but playing off of peoples vanity seems to be the best way to go.
It really is a pity. *sigh*
I hate people....or so I'd like to think...

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Marijuana is fine if you don't get caught! ;) But make your own choice about it.

But don't take the speed. It's for losers.

How about just cop to the truth--drugs are for losers. Tell them you have other plans for your body and brain, and that you plan to be able to use them in the future. Liberty is a nice thing to have also, ie. prison and felony convictions are for losers. Go find friends that are actually doing something progressive with their lives and drop the losers. There is no such thing as "just one time" with meth or most other drugs. Most people who cross the threshold of drug use never make it back. And the very few that do, never come back unchanged. It is a more expensive (read COSTLY) trip than you can imagine.

All drugs are for losers, IMNSHO.

How about just cop to the truth--drugs are for losers. Tell them you have other plans for your body and brain, and that you plan to be able to use them in the future. Liberty is a nice thing to have also, ie. prison and felony convictions are for losers. Go find friends that are actually doing something progressive with their lives and drop the losers. There is no such thing as "just one time" with meth or most other drugs. Most people who cross the threshold of drug use never make it back. And the very few that do, never come back unchanged. It is a more expensive (read COSTLY) trip than you can imagine.

Drugs are for losers? :confused:

Huh, I didn't know Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, The Beatles, The Who, the President of the United States, Bob Marley, Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, Hunter S. Thompson, Ken Kesey, The Allman Brothers, and I were all losers... *shrug*

Drugs are for losers? :confused:

Huh, I didn't know Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, The Beatles, The Who, the President of the United States, Bob Marley, Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, Hunter S. Thompson, Ken Kesey, The Allman Brothers, and I were all losers... *shrug*

Shocking, isn't it? But that's the tragic truth....

Drugs are for losers? :confused:

Huh, I didn't know Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, The Beatles, The Who, the President of the United States, Bob Marley, Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, Hunter S. Thompson, Ken Kesey, The Allman Brothers, and I were all losers... *shrug*

wow, and none of them died at a young age or had an unneccasarily painful life because of it right?

oh, and meth. (http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/photos/gallery.ssf?cgi-bin/view_gallery.cgi/olive/view_gallery.ata?g_id=2927)

anyone who forces you to break the law is not a friend.

Drugs are for losers? :confused:

Huh, I didn't know Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, The Beatles, The Who, the President of the United States, Bob Marley, Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, Hunter S. Thompson, Ken Kesey, The Allman Brothers, and I were all losers... *shrug*

You kinda undermined the impact of your counterpoint by listing people famous for having DIED FROM DRUG OVERDOSES! Come on. Oh, and GW? Yea, President or no, he's a boob. The Allman Brothers---boooooring.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Well if you don't want to do drugs than don't go...but if you're open to new experiences than why not?

wow, and none of them died at a young age or had an unneccasarily painful life because of it right?


Oh, NOES, I might die before I turn old and have to worry whether I'll make it to the bathroom on time, and I have to suffer the embarrasment of my family not wanting to be around me! I could die like so many rock stars!!! WHY, GOD, WHY?!!! :rolleyes:

Marijuana doesn't hurt people (though, the smoke does...), LSD hurts people by making them oblivious to danger. And alcohol is dangerous, but widely accepted. These are the only drugs I would ever use, so what's with the meth pics? I already said speed sucks.

And, anyways, if drugs were painful, why would we do 'em? Drinking and smoking hasn't led to a life of misery, I'm having a good time with my life, actually, which is a major turnaround. I used to consider suicide every hour of my life, but nowadays, if I'm depressed, I can just get wasted, and be fine the next day.

Well if you don't want to do drugs than don't go...but if you're open to new experiences than why not?

Because those experiences are harmful, potentially fatal?:confused:

come on... so anyone who has gotten drunk or stayed up late wired on caffine is a loser?

Also I dont think the President of the United states died an early death or had a painful life.

Overuse of drugs where it obviously affects ones life negatively is bad yes, but usage of drugs recreationally doesnt make one a loser.

Blanket statements are for losers (at least they are losers at the time the blanket statement is made but could otherwise be winners at other times I'm betting) unless those blanket statments show some universal truth but I'm not sure I know of any that do so.

Oh, NOES, I might die before I turn old and have to worry whether I'll make it to the bathroom on time, and I have to suffer the embarrasment of my family not wanting to be around me! I could die like so many rock stars!!! WHY, GOD, WHY?!!! :rolleyes:

Marijuana doesn't hurt people (though, the smoke does...), LSD hurts people by making them oblivious to danger. And alcohol is dangerous, but widely accepted. These are the only drugs I would ever use, so what's with the meth pics? I already said speed sucks.

And, anyways, if drugs were painful, why would we do 'em? Drinking and smoking hasn't led to a life of misery, I'm having a good time with my life, actually, which is a major turnaround. I used to consider suicide every hour of my life, but nowadays, if I'm depressed, I can just get wasted, and be fine the next day.

So slowly committing suicide drives those thoughts away....interesting...
*jots down notes*

:p

Oh, NOES, I might die before I turn old and have to worry whether I'll make it to the bathroom on time, and I have to suffer the embarrasment of my family not wanting to be around me! I could die like so many rock stars!!! WHY, GOD, WHY?!!! :rolleyes:

Marijuana doesn't hurt people (though, the smoke does...), LSD hurts people by making them oblivious to danger. And alcohol is dangerous, but widely accepted. These are the only drugs I would ever use, so what's with the meth pics? I already said speed sucks.

And, anyways, if drugs were painful, why would we do 'em? Drinking and smoking hasn't led to a life of misery, I'm having a good time with my life, actually, which is a major turnaround. I used to consider suicide every hour of my life, but nowadays, if I'm depressed, I can just get wasted, and be fine the next day.
you know I might not be the person you want to get into this debate with.

I am all for legalizing pot, not because I think it's a good thing, but because I think it's damn expensive to enforce laws against it.

chemical drugs are dangerous period.

come on... so anyone who has gotten drunk or stayed up late wired on caffine is a loser?

Also I dont think the President of the United states died an early death or had a painful life.

Overuse of drugs where it obviously affects ones life negatively is bad yes, but usage of drugs recreationally doesnt make one a loser.

Blanket statements are for losers (at least they are losers at the time the blanket statement is made but could otherwise be winners at other times I'm betting) unless those blanket statments show some universal truth but I'm not sure I know of any that do so.

No, I really am a loser at all times.:p

Oh, NOES, I might die before I turn old and have to worry whether I'll make it to the bathroom on time, and I have to suffer the embarrasment of my family not wanting to be around me! I could die like so many rock stars!!! WHY, GOD, WHY?!!! :rolleyes:

Marijuana doesn't hurt people (though, the smoke does...), LSD hurts people by making them oblivious to danger. And alcohol is dangerous, but widely accepted. These are the only drugs I would ever use, so what's with the meth pics? I already said speed sucks.

And, anyways, if drugs were painful, why would we do 'em? Drinking and smoking hasn't led to a life of misery, I'm having a good time with my life, actually, which is a major turnaround. I used to consider suicide every hour of my life, but nowadays, if I'm depressed, I can just get wasted, and be fine the next day.

The meth pics werent for you but for the OP.

Well they could be for you too just in case you consideed trying it. Nobody likes a meth mouth. :p

You kinda undermined the impact of your counterpoint by listing people famous for having DIED FROM DRUG OVERDOSES! Come on. Oh, and GW? Yea, President or no, he's a boob. The Allman Brothers---boooooring.

They died from drug overdoses! *gasp* If only they hadn't done drugs, they'd be immortal! And Grace Slick is still alive, BTW. I don't think any of the Beatles died from drug overdoses... neither have the Grateful Dead... Hunter S. Thompson killed himself... Ken Kesey died in his 60s... Bob Marley died of cancer. Really, it was just Janis Joplin, and a few members of Jefferson Airplane and The Who that died from overdoses.

And while Bush is a dick, he's the president of the United States. Not exactly a loser.

Drugs are for people who use drugs. *nods wisely*

No, I really am a loser at all times.:p

*offers you drugs*

These make you a winner!

http://shs.dept.uncg.edu/images/drugs540.jpg

So slowly committing suicide drives those thoughts away....interesting...
*jots down notes*

:p

lol. We all gotta die sometime.

you know I might not be the person you want to get into this debate with.
*snort* So says the person who started it.
chemical drugs are dangerous period.
We live in a world where anything can kill you at any time. We live in a world, where, shockingly, we're not immortal. Everyone's going to die sometime, so is there a real, plausible reason for not doing drugs like LSD or pot?

Drugs are for people who use drugs. *nods wisely*
...Barhah...

*offers you drugs*

These make you a winner!

http://shs.dept.uncg.edu/images/drugs540.jpg

No thanks.:) I really am weird enough without them.:p

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Wait a tick....

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You're trying to get me to OD, aren't you!?:eek:

Drugs are for losers? :confused:

Huh, I didn't know Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, The Beatles, The Who, the President of the United States, Bob Marley, Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, Hunter S. Thompson, Ken Kesey, The Allman Brothers, and I were all losers... *shrug*

yeah but look what happened to some of them.and think about it,there are a lot more people than that who take drugs, so a proportion will be succesful,while many will be dead,mentally ill,jobless,addicted,(and the list goes on)weed is okay,but the rest-dont bother!

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

I have friends who done all that (and some still do :( )

I always refused and they never tried making me take anything.

Say no.

yeah but look what happened to some of them.and think about it,there are a lot more people than that who take drugs, so a proportion will be succesful,while many will be dead,mentally ill,jobless,addicted,(and the list goes on)weed is okay, as is acid, but the rest-dont bother!

Fixed. And I agree with you.

We live in a world where anything can kill you at any time. We live in a world, where, shockingly, we're not immortal. Everyone's going to die sometime, so is there a real, plausible reason for not doing drugs like LSD or pot?
I guess I have a reason not to do drugs since they left me homeless and near death, ruined my life and have marred my future no matter what I do.

I suppose though someone who hasn't hit rock bottom should go out and pump their body full of whatever chemicals they want in the hopes that they will find pleasure.

However advocating it to someone else is a line that nobody should cross.

anyone who forces you to break the law is not a friend.

Who the hell said that he was being forced?

Because those experiences are harmful, potentially fatal?:confused:

So...live a little. I was unsure of mariuana (sp?) before I tried it and it's not that bad...

No thanks.:) I really am weird enough without them.:p

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Wait a tick....

......

You're trying to get me to OD, aren't you!?:eek:

okay your loss

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of loss of life

lol. We all gotta die sometime.


*snort* So says the person who started it.

We live in a world where anything can kill you at any time. We live in a world, where, shockingly, we're not immortal. Everyone's going to die sometime, so is there a real, plausible reason for not doing drugs like LSD or pot?


...Barhah...

That first part addressed to me is true. And yes, there is a good reason. I'd rather live a fulfilling life in good health and die when it is my body's time to quit or I'm assassinated than to live under the false impressions imparted by drugs. If I am to die, I'd rather do so with my dignity intact and no regrets. Somehow, I don't think drugs would allow me to keep my dignity, which would lead to regrets. Drugs are a weakness to me. I have no need of them.

lol. We all gotta die sometime.


*snort* So says the person who started it.

We live in a world where anything can kill you at any time. We live in a world, where, shockingly, we're not immortal. Everyone's going to die sometime, so is there a real, plausible reason for not doing drugs like LSD or pot?
Just beacause you're going to die eventually isn't a reason to purpousfully shorten your life. Afterall, you might not love the idea of being old right now, but how can you be sure you'll feel that way in 10 years.


...Barhah...

Barhah mah zambah brazzah!!

That first part addressed to me is true. And yes, there is a good reason. I'd rather live a fulfilling life in good health and die when it is my body's time to quit or I'm assassinated than to live under the false impressions imparted by drugs. If I am to die, I'd rather do so with my dignity intact and no regrets. Somehow, I don't think drugs would allow me to keep my dignity, which would lead to regrets. Drugs are a weakness to me. I have no need of them.

You are a stronger man (?) than I. I need my aspirin when a migrane comes on. I also dont want to give up my delicious delicious kahluha

I guess I have a reason not to do drugs since they left me homeless and near death, ruined my life and have marred my future no matter what I do.

I suppose though someone who hasn't hit rock bottom should go out and pump their body full of whatever chemicals they want in the hopes that they will find pleasure.

However advocating it to someone else is a line that nobody should cross.

Since when was I advocating it? I said, don't do speed, and I joked that pot is fun if you don't get caught, but he should make his own choice about it. Not exactly a stunning endorsement.
And it was pot and LSD, the only drugs I've "advocated" so far, that made you homeless? Funny, I though you said you did meth...

So...live a little. I was unsure of mariuana (sp?) before I tried it and it's not that bad...
That's the thing: I would like to live. I would rather be clear of mind than under the mistaken illusions of drugs. I suppose that might have something to do with my little self-control complex.
okay your loss

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of loss of life
It is indeed. I fully intend to keep it and relinquish it only as necessary. I may not fear death, but that doesn't mean I must rush to embrace it.

Since when was I advocating it? I said, don't do speed, and I joked that pot is fun if you don't get caught, but he should make his own choice about it. Not exactly a stunning endorsement.
And it was pot and LSD, the only drugs I've "advocated" so far, that made you homeless? Funny, I though you said you did meth...

I did, and various prescription drugs, and LSD and I smoked pot. I am pretty sure it was the combo of the meth and prescription drugs that landed me without a home, but advocating drug use (illegal drug use btw) to someone isn't the least bit responsible.

If you want to fuck up your life go ahead, but don't cheer someone on in screwing up their own.

Oh, NOES, I might die before I turn old and have to worry whether I'll make it to the bathroom on time, and I have to suffer the embarrasment of my family not wanting to be around me! I could die like so many rock stars!!! WHY, GOD, WHY?!!! :rolleyes:

Marijuana doesn't hurt people (though, the smoke does...), LSD hurts people by making them oblivious to danger. And alcohol is dangerous, but widely accepted. These are the only drugs I would ever use, so what's with the meth pics? I already said speed sucks.

And, anyways, if drugs were painful, why would we do 'em? Drinking and smoking hasn't led to a life of misery, I'm having a good time with my life, actually, which is a major turnaround. I used to consider suicide every hour of my life, but nowadays, if I'm depressed, I can just get wasted, and be fine the next day.

wow, thats good for you, when you feel down, do drugs(sarcsasm btw)
Drugs dont solve problems, neither does drink, it just puts it out of your mind temporarily,but you never deal with the real problem.Weed can lead to psychosis in people with mental health problems(or predisposition to them)and can damage your lungs, and give you major paranoia.Alchohol damages your liver, makes some violent,can damage kidneys.I dont even want to go into other drugs....I have tried many and it was not worth it,why ruin your life for an evening of being high?

You are a stronger man (?) than I. I need my aspirin when a migrane comes on. I also dont want to give up my delicious delicious kahluha

Perhaps. Perhaps I'm simply foolish. With a migraine, the perception is distorted anyway, so I'm not sure that really provides the same moral dilemma....though I don't take aspirin anyway. I'm too lazy to go get it.:p

Oh, and for the record: I hypocritically place alcohol in a different category.;) I haven't drunk any yet, but there might be a time one day....I doubt it, but I figure I had better think up some excuse for my hypocrisy now, just in case.:D

I did, and various prescription drugs, and LSD and I smoked pot. I am pretty sure it was the combo of the meth and prescription drugs that landed me without a home, but advocating drug use (illegal drug use btw) to someone isn't the least bit responsible.

If you want to fuck up your life go ahead, but don't cheer someone on in screwing up their own.

Aww, but it's always so much easier to get other people to screw their own lives up worse...:(:p

That first part addressed to me is true. And yes, there is a good reason. I'd rather live a fulfilling life in good health and die when it is my body's time to quit or I'm assassinated than to live under the false impressions imparted by drugs. If I am to die, I'd rather do so with my dignity intact and no regrets. Somehow, I don't think drugs would allow me to keep my dignity, which would lead to regrets. Drugs are a weakness to me. I have no need of them.

Ditto. I'm a control freak and therefore will never willingly take anything that affects me being in total control of myself at all times. Plus I got enough medical problems without drugs making them worse and adding new ones. I've seen too many friends fuck themselves up, thankfully they've pretty much all quit now.

Fixed. And I agree with you.

I had a shock when I saw that, I didnt think I had typed that....:p
I never liked acid, almost every time was a bad trip,when good, it was at best boring.

Just beacause you're going to die eventually isn't a reason to purpousfully shorten your life. Afterall, you might not love the idea of being old right now, but how can you be sure you'll feel that way in 10 years.
Well, I'll still be fairly young in 10 years. Unless 27 is old. :(
But, I may, I may not. I'm not purposefully shortening my life, though, except through lung damage from smoking (but, hey, the atmosphere is turning to crap anyways...)
According to a variety of lab tests, pot and LSD don't really cause long-term damage... I think I'm more likely to die 'cause of drinkin'.


I would rather be clear of mind than under the mistaken illusions of drugs.
That's really hilarious for some reason.

but advocating drug use (illegal drug use btw) to someone isn't the least bit responsible.

If you want to fuck up your life go ahead, but don't cheer someone on in screwing up their own.
Oookay, I'll ask again: When was I cheering him on in screwing up his life? BTW, I managed to screw up my life without the involvement of drugs, thankyouverymuch.

wow, thats good for you, when you feel down, do drugs(sarcsasm btw)
:confused: You'd rather I killed myself?

Ditto. I'm a control freak and therefore will never willingly take anything that affects me being in total control of myself at all times. Plus I got enough medical problems without drugs making them worse and adding new ones. I've seen too many friends fuck themselves up, thankfully they've pretty much all quit now.

I've always had excellent health. Probably because I almost never see doctors.:p And I want to keep it that way. My body may not be particularly strong, but I'd like to keep it as strong as I can. Besides, I'm sure I could have plenty of fun without drugs....if I ever learn how to have fun, that is....:(

I guess I have a reason not to do drugs since they left me homeless and near death, ruined my life and have marred my future no matter what I do.

I suppose though someone who hasn't hit rock bottom should go out and pump their body full of whatever chemicals they want in the hopes that they will find pleasure.

However advocating it to someone else is a line that nobody should cross.

indeed.The people who say drugs are harmless havent been harmed by them to the extent that people like you and a few of my friends have.If people could understand what people go though to get over drugs,and be rid of the after effects.to advocat drugs is irresponsible.

That's really hilarious for some reason.
They say the truth is often the funniest stuff.

:confused: You'd rather I killed myself?

Yes, actually.:p

Well, I'll still be fairly young in 10 years. Unless 27 is old. :(
But, I may, I may not. I'm not purposefully shortening my life, though, except through lung damage from smoking (but, hey, the atmosphere is turning to crap anyways...)
According to a variety of lab tests, pot and LSD don't really cause long-term damage... I think I'm more likely to die 'cause of drinkin'.



That's really hilarious for some reason.


Oookay, I'll ask again: When was I cheering him on in screwing up his life? BTW, I managed to screw up my life without the involvement of drugs, thankyouverymuch.


:confused: You'd rather I killed myself?

Id rather you get counciling,and actually sort the problem out rather than covering it up.
dont think I dont understand how it feels to want to kill ones self, I nearly suceeded ,twice...but Im sorting out my problems.Ive been down the drugs avenue, and it made things worse.It mean that not only did I have a problem with depression,but with drugs too!

They say the truth is often the funniest stuff.

Yes, actually.:p
AWAY MESSAGE: FD told me I should kill myself. I'm really impressionable, so...

AWAY MESSAGE: FD told me I should kill myself. I'm really impressionable, so...

LOL You say that as though people actually listen to me!:D...................................awwww :(

LOL You say that as though people actually listen to me!:D...................................awwww :(

:confused: Did someone... say something?

:confused: Did someone... say something?

No.

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Uhm...Not go.

As for the effects. If you enjoy sweating, palpitations and imsomnia, speed is the drug for you. I never quite understood the point of it.

Pot...well...I haven't any horror stories. But if you don't wanna, then you really shouldn't.

Well, I'll still be fairly young in 10 years. Unless 27 is old. :(

I turned 27 last week! IT IS NOT OLD!!!!:D

Only go if you want to, and can rely on your mates not to get you to take anything you don't want to.

Pot is pretty enjoyable, but I wouldn't take it unless you're really, really sure you want to, simply because once you've done it for a very long time, you lose any effect from it, which leads you to take the harder stuff.

Pot in itself is not addictive, it's the stuff you take after you lose the buzz that is - stay off of it unless you're prepared to steal to feed your heroin habit in the future.

Speed is much more unpleasant stuff - in small doses it'll make you stay up for a couple of hours more than usual - if you overdo it you'll be staying up for days, sweating and convulsing - not much fun at all.

And I'm talking from experiences of my own and my friends' here, not just reading it out of a "drugs are fo' suckas" leaflet or somesuch.

I've turned down pot at parties. The good thing about pot-heads is that they're pretty mellow about it.

About that speed, though... since when does speed = meth? Meth is way worse for you than speed.

I turned 27 last week! IT IS NOT OLD!!!!:D

You're just saying that to convince yourself you aren't old.:p

You're just saying that to convince yourself you aren't old.:p

It's not? I mean, it is?

Haha, my brother turns 27 on Monday... I can laugh at him now.

No, I really am a loser at all times.:p

We know. :p

It's not? I mean, it is?

Haha, my brother turns 27 on Monday... I can laugh at him now.

Um...no, you can't. :p

EDIT: Not till he turns 30. Go ahead and rip me now, FD.

Um...no, you can't. :p

...You're right. He's the one who went to college. And our folks actually like him... Dammit, I got nothin' on him!

EDIT: *sees edit* Oh... gotcha. ;)

...You're right. He's the one who went to college. And our folks actually like him... Dammit, I got nothin' on him!

EDIT: *sees edit* Oh... gotcha. ;)

You've still got time. And yes, you saw the edit. I'm 34. I also made the mistake of trying a lot of drugs (although I'm clean of all but the legal ones now -- ooh like this beer in front of me!). I'll quote one of my favourite films here, Trainspotting, although when I was at uni, it was what made a lot of people (not me) try heroin (cuz they really didn't get the point of the film):

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked-up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life...But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?

A drug is no substitute for life. Choose life.

Pot isn't that bad as most people make it out to be. You could smoke 26,000 joints and not have the chance of getting lung cancer that you get from smoking one cigarette. And it does not KILL your brain cells. It simply confuses them. Greatly. Just make sure you're sitting in a chair and not doing anything. Speed, on the other hand, is rather bad. To put it simply, don't take it.

Pot isn't that bad as most people make it out to be. You could smoke 26,000 joints and not have the chance of getting lung cancer that you get from smoking one cigarette.
Okay, I'm an advocate of marijuana legalisation, and that's bullshit. All smoke contains carcinogens, and a joint has a nearly equal ability to cause cancer to that of a cigarette.

You've still got time. And yes, you saw the edit. I'm 34. I also made the mistake of trying a lot of drugs (although I'm clean of all but the legal ones now -- ooh like this beer in front of me!). I'll quote one of my favourite films here, Trainspotting, although when I was at uni, it was what made a lot of people (not me) try heroin (cuz they really didn't get the point of the film):

snip

A drug is no substitute for life. Choose life.
That's one of my favorite films of all time. :D
And, while I do smoke pot and drink, I never take anything "harder", and I make sure that I won't do anything like that.

And, really, drug use has not messed up my life. It was my lack of interest in academia, and lack of faith in myself (which both started in 5th grade, long before I became a user), that made me a failure in the paradigm of America.

It's not? I mean, it is?

Haha, my brother turns 27 on Monday... I can laugh at him now.
LOL Yes, it is.:p
We know. :p
I emphasize it enough: I should hope you know!:p
Um...no, you can't. :p

EDIT: Not till he turns 30. Go ahead and rip me now, FD.
LOL You know me too well, OLD MAN!!;):D:p

Okay, I'm an advocate of marijuana legalisation, and that's bullshit. All smoke contains carcinogens, and a joint has a nearly equal ability to cause cancer to that of a cigarette.


I trust scientists more than you.

I trust scientists more than you.

OK, give me a link to the research that says marijuana smoke doesn't contain carcinogens.

OK, give me a link to the research that says marijuana smoke doesn't contain carcinogens.

Wikipedia is your friend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana

Ctrl+F then search for "carcinogenic" along with "cancer". Read the areas around the words.

I'm going to direct you to a very good site.

Erowid (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11623191)

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Were you high when you made that link?

Wikipedia is your friend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana

Ctrl+F then search for "carcinogenic" along with "cancer". Read the areas around the words.
Uh-huh. Let's see this...

Many cannabis proponents disagree vehemently, reasoning that as one must smoke less cannabis to achieve the same effect, it actually is safer and less potentially carcinogenic in the long run than that which was smoked in earlier times.
So potheads say "No way, man, it's fine! It won't give you cancer!" And biased research backs it up.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.
Uh-huh. And how many cigarettes will a smoker light in his lifetime? Ten times as many? More? 20 cigarettes in a pack * 2 packs a day * 365 days in a year * 40 years (the range of ages included in the study) = 584,000 cigarettes in a lifetime. More than ten times as many.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.
Fine. I'm convinced. Asshole.

Uh-huh. And how many cigarettes will a smoker light in his lifetime? Ten times as many? More? 20 cigarettes in a pack * 2 packs a day * 365 days in a year * 40 years (the range of ages included in the study) = 584,000 cigarettes in a lifetime. More than ten times as many.

If they find NO evidence of cancer in 1/20ths of the amount smoked, then how much evidence of cancer do you think will be found in all 20ths of marijuana smoked?

Who the hell said that he was being forced?

Just stating my opinion. That people who force you to break the law are not your friends.

That if you are with a group of people who will not let you be their friend unless you break the law....well then they are not really friends are they?

what should I do?

I'm going to my friends's houses on Saturday, and watching movies and all. They want to smoke pot, and use speed so we can stay up all night, they said they want me to try it too. I've never tried either, and I'm not ready to start. Anyways, what's the effects of smoking pot or taking speed I really don't know? and what should I do about that situation? I really want to be friends with these people and don't disappoint them, but I don't want to do take drugs.

Speed? Don't touch it unless YOU are resolved to do so, and know and trust the dealer.

Pot? You'll be fine. Just don't drink neat Vodka at the same time.;)