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I see World War Three

Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh
31-08-2006, 22:15
Who here also sees it coming? I'm tellin' you, I can smell it cooking, and it smells like it'll be ready to serve in two to five years.
Edwardis
31-08-2006, 22:16
Who here also sees it coming? I'm tellin' you, it I can smell it cooking, and it smells like it'll be ready to serve in two to five years.

Eh... I smell something. It could be a WWIII barbecue. Or it could be the stench of the corrupt politics dump next door. Or the mingling of the two. Probably the last one.
Bolol
31-08-2006, 22:18
*Inhales*

I smell...absolutely nothing.

*Goes on about his business*
Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh
31-08-2006, 22:19
Eh... I smell something. It could be a WWIII barbecue. Or it could be the stench of the corrupt politics dump next door. Or the mingling of the two. Probably the last one.

Nah, it's both. The politicians took a dump on the steak of WWIII to add some flavor to that low-grade, anthrax ridden, madcow diseased slab of meat.
Edwardis
31-08-2006, 22:22
Nah, it's both. The politicians took a dump on the steak of WWIII to add some flavor to that low-grade, anthrax ridden, madcow diseased slab of meat.

Ahhh. So that's it! They should get the first bite.
Acquicic
31-08-2006, 22:26
I see dead people. Millions of dead people.
Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh
31-08-2006, 22:27
Ahhh. So that's it! They should get the first bite.

Yeah, when it starts, I think we should annex Central America and the Carribeans. Poor bastards are always trying to get here, so why not make them part of our country instead of deporting them time and again?
Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh
31-08-2006, 22:29
I see dead people. Millions of dead people.

*GASP!* You too?!
Edwardis
31-08-2006, 22:33
Yeah, when it starts, I think we should annex Central America and the Carribeans. Poor bastards are always trying to get here, so why not make them part of our country instead of deporting them time and again?

Mmm. I'm not sure there will be anyone to annex Central America but the Central Americans. That is if nuclear seasoning has been added also.
Deep Kimchi
31-08-2006, 22:33
No reason not to have fun while the world has a major all-around war...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/smile.jpg
Arinola
31-08-2006, 22:33
Who here also sees it coming? I'm tellin' you, I can smell it cooking, and it smells like it'll be ready to serve in two to five years.

I don't usually believe what Nostradamus says,but he DID say the end of the world would come from the East.
I think that is either N.Korea,or Iran,with the nuclear crisises in both those countries.
Though,Nostradamus has never really been right.
I think there's A war coming,but not a world war.
Deep Kimchi
31-08-2006, 22:36
No reason not to have fun while the world has a major all-around war...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/smile.jpg
Arinola
31-08-2006, 22:38
Who here also sees it coming? I'm tellin' you, I can smell it cooking, and it smells like it'll be ready to serve in two to five years.

I don't usually believe what Nostradamus says,but he DID say the end of the world would come from the East.
I think that is either N.Korea,or Iran,with the nuclear crisises in both those countries.
Though,Nostradamus has never really been right.
I think there's A war coming,but not a world war.
The Lone Alliance
31-08-2006, 22:47
Great war between Democracy against Theocracy and Corruption.

Europe will play Democracy
The Middle East will play Theocracy
China and North Korea will play as Corruption.
The US will be played as both sides.
With the Neo Cons playing as both Theocracy and Corruption
And the Democrates playing as just Corruption.
Taldaan
31-08-2006, 23:35
I think Tom Lehrer put it best:

*starts up tinkly piano music*

When you attend a funeral,
It is sad to think that sooner or'l
Later those you love will do the same for you.
And you may have thought it tragic,
Not to mention other adjec-
Tives, to think of all the weeping they will do.
(But don't you worry.)

No more ashes, no more sackcloth,
And an arm band made of black cloth
Will some day nevermore adorn a sleeve.
For if the bomb that drops on you
Gets your friends and neighbors too,
There'll be nobody left behind to grieve.

And we will all go together when we go.
What a comforting fact that is to know.
Universal bereavement,
An inspiring achievement,
Yes, we will all go together when we go.

We will all go together when we go.
All suffused with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance,
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go.

Oh we will all fry together when we fry.
We'll be French fried potatoes by and by.
There will be no more misery
When the world is our rotisserie,
Yes, we will all fry together when we fry.

Down by the old maelstrom,
There'll be a storm before the calm.

And we will all bake together when we bake.
There'll be nobody present at the wake.
With complete participation
In that grand incineration,
Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak.

Oh we will all char together when we char.
And let there be no moaning of the bar.
Just sing out a Te Deum
When you see that I.C.B.M.,*
And the party will be come-as-you-are.

Oh, we will all burn together when we burn.
There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn.
When it's time for the fallout
And Saint Peter calls us all out,
We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn.

You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas.
Go directly, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dollahs.

And we will all go together when we go.
Every Hottentot and every Eskimo.
When the air becomes uranious,
We will all go simultaneous.
Yes, we all will go together
When we all go together,
Yes we all will go together when we go.
New Lofeta
31-08-2006, 23:38
Nah... there will never be a Third World War.

Nukes put a stop to that...


IT'S ALL GOING MAAAAAAD!
Gun Manufacturers
31-08-2006, 23:48
Who here also sees it coming? I'm tellin' you, I can smell it cooking, and it smells like it'll be ready to serve in two to five years.

Sorry for the smell, that was me. I had a bean burrito for lunch. :eek:
Call to power
01-09-2006, 00:51
why is it every now and again we get someone saying WWIII is just round the corner I mean its odd that people really haven’t got tired of this after 60+ years

Should WWIII happen it won’t be today or next year hell I’d give it at least 100 years but shit happens at least less people died in the second world war so hopefully we can keep that up (with dramatic decreases in casualties:) )
Soviestan
01-09-2006, 00:59
WW3 isn't going to happen any time soon. People were saying WW3 with the whole Israel-Lebonan thing, and look how that turned out. A ceasefire in a month.
GreaterPacificNations
01-09-2006, 04:14
I don't usually believe what Nostradamus says,but he DID say the end of the world would come from the East.
I think that is either N.Korea,or Iran,with the nuclear crisises in both those countries.
Though,Nostradamus has never really been right.
I think there's A war coming,but not a world war.

Everywhere is 'from the east'. Iran is east of europe, Chine is east of Iran, USA is east of China, Eu is east of US. Damn ambiguity, it's almost as if he was trying to do it...
Vetalia
01-09-2006, 04:24
Everywhere is 'from the east'. Iran is east of europe, Chine is east of Iran, USA is east of China, Eu is east of US. Damn ambiguity, it's almost as if he was trying to do it...

It's odd that people seem to tie Nostradamus' predictions to events after the events happen...it's funny that way.

Awake! for Morning in the Bowl of Night,
Has flung the Stone that puts the stars to flight:
And Lo! the Hunter of the East has caught
The Sultan's Turret in a Noose of light.

Sounds like something to do with nuclear weapons, right? The second part seems oddly like a description of a mushroom cloud and the references about "the Hunter of the East" seem to mean Iran.

However, this isn't from Nostradamus, it's from the poet Omar Khayyam's Rubiyat and shows how easily you can take any short poem and turn it in to a prophecy.
Vegas-Rex
01-09-2006, 04:41
I don't usually believe what Nostradamus says,but he DID say the end of the world would come from the East.
I think that is either N.Korea,or Iran,with the nuclear crisises in both those countries.
Though,Nostradamus has never really been right.
I think there's A war coming,but not a world war.

He was right quite often, if you're aware that he was actually not predicting the future, but writing covert protestant propaganda about events in his time.
Vetalia
01-09-2006, 04:46
He was right quite often, if you're aware that he was actually not predicting the future, but writing covert protestant propaganda about events in his time.

It's a lot more fun (and profitable) to claim he predicted the future than to realize it's nothing more than cryptic, and rather staid political commentary by a 16th-century French scholar.
Slaughterhouse five
01-09-2006, 04:53
i think many people are going to steer away from calling any future war "world war 3". even if it is a war that destroys just about everything in its path and has casualties 5 times the amount during all other wars in the 20th centruy.

they will probably come up with a name for the war that doesnt make it sound like world war 3.
GreaterPacificNations
01-09-2006, 04:55
WWIII isn't going to happen anytime soon. There's not enough tension. Plus too many of the people with power are content and rich. No rich society wants war, they want more money, and hedonistic pleasures. We just don't have the powder keg we used to have. USA has already fearmongered it's people into Iraq, I don't know if they could manage to squeeze another war out of Osama and the axis of evil. Certainly not a big one. Even if they did, US soldiers would be getting pretty lonely, because they won't be able to count on foriegn support. Maybe there is another Middle east conflict coming up, but certainly not a world War.
Daistallia 2104
01-09-2006, 06:01
Good thing you can smell the past - the cold war was WW III, and the present "War on terror is WW IV (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/03/sprj.irq.woolsey.world.war/index.html). Let us know when you can smell WWV....

:D
Bobslovakia 2
01-09-2006, 06:19
Well the only way that I can see WWIII (not counting cold war) occuring is the US decalring war on another Muslim country, handling it badly, and a major Muslim leader (religious not political) declaring a jihad against the US (and affiliated allies). If a major leader did that it would automatically become WWIII because Islam is the world's biggest religon and a cry like that would create total chaos.
Megaloria
01-09-2006, 06:24
I'm hoping it holds off until we've got battle robots.
GreaterPacificNations
01-09-2006, 06:37
Good thing you can smell the past - the cold war was WW III, and the present "War on terror is WW IV (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/03/sprj.irq.woolsey.world.war/index.html). Let us know when you can smell WWV....

:DIf thats true, World War parts 3 and 4 were totally gay. They poorly acted, didn't even involve the classic theme of widespread death and misery, and dominated by the US (who was poorly portrayed IMO).
GreaterPacificNations
01-09-2006, 06:40
I'm just going to hit the fast forward button until we reach the second Galactic war. That'd be cool.
GreaterPacificNations
01-09-2006, 06:42
Well the only way that I can see WWIII (not counting cold war) occuring is the US decalring war on another Muslim country, handling it badly, and a major Muslim leader (religious not political) declaring a jihad against the US (and affiliated allies). If a major leader did that it would automatically become WWIII because Islam is the world's biggest religon and a cry like that would create total chaos.
Except that there hasn't been a supreme Authority of the religion of Islam since the Mullahs died out 500 years ago, and that war would involve the USA and a handful of underdeveloped nations. A world war has to involve more than few countries on each side.
Nihonou-san
01-09-2006, 18:38
I think that WWIII will be in the Middle East, and may have something to do with Israel and the last remaining oil. (DUN DUN DUN) I'm serious here, folks.
Mikesburg
01-09-2006, 18:47
My guess is that they won't release WWIII just yet. Maybe a prequel, they're trendy. "World War: The Beginning."
Terror Incognitia
01-09-2006, 19:08
World War Three (and I'm not counting the Cold War due to lack of open conflict between the main protagonists) is very hard to predict.
I don't see China risking their economic 'miracle' by going to war. India-Pakistan or Israel-Middle East aren't big enough to count as World War. So...for World War Three you need the USA, with europe (or much of) against enough of the 3rd World to make it an ongoing conflict.
The main impact on the West is nonetheless likely to be internal strife between native populations and immigrants from <wherever the opposing force is>.
Celtlund
01-09-2006, 19:46
Who here also sees it coming? I'm tellin' you, I can smell it cooking, and it smells like it'll be ready to serve in two to five years.

I hate to be the first one to tell you this, but WW III has already started. :eek:
Dzanissimo
02-09-2006, 00:43
I think there will never ever be world war again.

The time of world wars ended some time ago. Time when most nations involved included large masses of tanks, manpower etc. pushed against in two alliances is yesterday. Today is information age; power of mass media and free information limits opportunities of propoganda and swaying many nations for one cause. Along with that, wars can hardly be won, as guerrila wars continues and victories become defeats.

Terrorism, guerrila wars, extreme mobility, technology and mainly information - these will be future areas of 'war'. But it won't be war in the meaning as beginning of 20th century.
Utracia
02-09-2006, 02:10
I hate to be the first one to tell you this, but WW III has already started. :eek:

What?!? And no one bothered to tell me?!? :eek:
Scarlet States
02-09-2006, 02:19
I hate to be the first one to tell you this, but WW III has already started. :eek:

What?! I'm not even elected into office yet! :eek:
Celtlund
02-09-2006, 02:20
What?!? And no one bothered to tell me?!? :eek:

No one wants you to know about the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the embasies in Africa, Kobar towers in Saudi Arabia, Madrid, London, Bali, Indonesia, 911, shall I continue?
Liberated New Ireland
02-09-2006, 02:23
I see dead people. Millions of dead people.

I heard a million voices crying out, and then, silence.
Utracia
02-09-2006, 02:24
No one wants you to know about the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the embasies in Africa, Kobar towers in Saudi Arabia, Madrid, London, Bali, Indonesia, 911, shall I continue?

Oh, that is a war is it? I suppose the bombing in Oklahoma City was the start of a civil war?
Scarlet States
02-09-2006, 02:25
I refuse to acknowledge the alleged existance of conflict between the entire world and itself.
Gauthier
02-09-2006, 02:46
Who here also sees it coming? I'm tellin' you, I can smell it cooking, and it smells like it'll be ready to serve in two to five years.

"CAN YOU SMELLLLLLL-EL-EL-ELLL WHAT IRAQ... IS... COOKING?"
Liberated New Ireland
02-09-2006, 02:47
"CAN YOU SMELLLLLLL-EL-EL-ELLL WHAT IRAQ... IS... COOKING?"

:rolleyes:
Naliitr
02-09-2006, 02:51
*Sniffs* I smell the smoke of World War Three, but the fire died before it could become a real blaze.
Bobslovakia 2
02-09-2006, 02:55
Except that there hasn't been a supreme Authority of the religion of Islam since the Mullahs died out 500 years ago, and that war would involve the USA and a handful of underdeveloped nations. A world war has to involve more than few countries on each side.

Fair enough I am woefully uneducated about Islam. It's something i should really go out and remedy, but there's always something else to do. On the other foot, a large majority of Islamic people loathe the US right now and it would not surprise me if all fo the Islamic leaders decalred a jihad against the US. Egypt, and Iran are not underdeveloped (at least not to the point of inability to fight), and I can't see countries like North Korea or China (maybe even Russia) passing up an oppurtunity to fight the US with some help. Furthermore Islam is the world's biggest religon (might even be a majority) and having all the Middle East, Indonesia and some other countries attack us as well as the mass-killing of Muslims within the US that would invariably occur under this scenario. Would constitute a world war in my opinion.
Darknovae
02-09-2006, 03:20
Who CAN'T see a massive war coming? You've got to be a total idiot not to see it....
Naliitr
02-09-2006, 03:22
Who CAN'T see a massive war coming? You've got to be a total idiot not to see it....

The only way you can see it now is with a telescope, and you have to look backwards. It was very near the brink of becoming a whole "Franz Ferdinand" situation (I.E. Small regional conflict expands to include the allies of the countries involved), but it receced as soon as Israel got out of there. Just another mideast conflict. We've seen a hundred of 'em.
Vetalia
02-09-2006, 03:40
I really doubt there will be a WWIII or even a war for resources like oil because it simply doesn't make any sense. It would be a lot easier to save that $2+ trillion and just give every driver $13,000 dollars towards a Prius or another hybrid.

Honestly, is it really worth fighting for something that will be obsolete by 2020at the latest and production of which won't even decline markedly until the 2030's?
Naliitr
02-09-2006, 03:41
I really doubt there will be a WWIII or even a war for resources like oil because it simply doesn't make any sense. It would be a lot easier to save that $2+ trillion and just give every driver $13,000 dollars towards a Prius or another hybrid.

Honestly, is it really worth fighting for something that will be obsolete by 2020at the latest and production of which won't even decline markedly until the 2030's?

Most politicians care about the NOW, not the future. Why do you think there's not much action being taken against global warming?
Vetalia
02-09-2006, 03:44
Most politicians care about the NOW, not the future. Why do you think there's not much action being taken against global warming?

Because most people don't give a shit about it...unfortunately, politicians are only doing the will of their constituents by ignoring global warming. Hell, there are a lot of people who don't even believe it exists, be it man-made, man-influenced, or totally natural in origin.
Naliitr
02-09-2006, 03:47
Because most people don't give a shit about it...unfortunately, politicians are only doing the will of their constituents by ignoring global warming. Hell, there are a lot of people who don't even believe it exists, be it man-made, man-influenced, or totally natural in origin.

And do you know why people don't give a shit? Because there is no evidence of it NOW. Scientists say there will be global warming in the future, but who trusts scientists? *sarcasm*
Bobslovakia 2
02-09-2006, 04:58
And do you know why people don't give a shit? Because there is no evidence of it NOW. Scientists say there will be global warming in the future, but who trusts scientists? *sarcasm*

Oh yeah there's no evidence of it now. Not counting the rising of the ocean, shrinking of polar ice caps and the increase in number and intensity of hurricanes (Those don't count). My uncle doesn't trust scientists. He sicerely believes that dinosaurs didn't exist and that their bones were put there by God as a test of our faith. Now I'm religious (Christian) but i also am totally ready to believe what the scientific community tells me. Anyone who refuses to accept global warming isn't paying attention.
Naliitr
02-09-2006, 05:02
Oh yeah there's no evidence of it now. Not counting the rising of the ocean, shrinking of polar ice caps and the increase in number and intensity of hurricanes (Those don't count). My uncle doesn't trust scientists. He sicerely believes that dinosaurs didn't exist and that their bones were put there by God as a test of our faith. Now I'm religious (Christian) but i also am totally ready to believe what the scientific community tells me. Anyone who refuses to accept global warming isn't paying attention.

Just saying what all the nuts who don't think it's going on are saying.
Bobslovakia 2
02-09-2006, 05:13
Just saying what all the nuts who don't think it's going on are saying.

Oh I know that, but it was such a good oppurtunity to rant I couldn't help myself. :D
Terror Incognitia
02-09-2006, 14:08
Fair enough I am woefully uneducated about Islam. It's something i should really go out and remedy, but there's always something else to do. On the other foot, a large majority of Islamic people loathe the US right now and it would not surprise me if all fo the Islamic leaders decalred a jihad against the US. Egypt, and Iran are not underdeveloped (at least not to the point of inability to fight), and I can't see countries like North Korea or China (maybe even Russia) passing up an oppurtunity to fight the US with some help. Furthermore Islam is the world's biggest religon (might even be a majority) and having all the Middle East, Indonesia and some other countries attack us as well as the mass-killing of Muslims within the US that would invariably occur under this scenario. Would constitute a world war in my opinion.

Wrong. Most Muslims do not hate the USA. Most Muslims dislike the USA's foreign policy, and a minority hate everything the US stands for. That might sound like nitpicking, but...take for example Iran. The leadership hate the USA. Most of the people don't care, but would support their leaders if the USA seemed to be threatening.
North Korea could turn much of East Asia into glowing wreckage, but in conventional terms is very near collapse.
The Chinese make far too much money from the USA to risk much. They'll posture, but the Communist Party's legitimacy currently rests on providing economic prosperity. If that fails then the already widespread (and suppressed) protest could boil over. War against the USA is a sure-fire way to stop the growth of their economy. QED.
As to Islam...there is insufficient unity in the Muslim world to unite it against the USA, short of America nuking Mecca. I hope I'm right in thinking that's off the agenda...
Minaris
02-09-2006, 14:38
I see dead people. Millions of dead people.

I see nuke bombings...

And China and Japan fighting over Korea and 'Nam.

And Portugal getting taken over by Spain... or is that Arabia taking it from the south?

And is that Sweden fighting? No, couldn't be... ;)

I see Italy NOT getting taken, but Greece is getting a big invasion from Turkey...

there is Mongolia being split between Russia and China and Palestine getting taken (back) by Isreal...

And in the midst of it all, the US/Chinese/Arabian emperor (can't tell) takes power in a ceremony at the rebuilt Temple Of Jerusalem... ;) ;) ;)