NationStates Jolt Archive

This is sad really. But we have to be optimistic and hope that trends will change...


German births decline to new low

Germany has seen another decline in its birth rate, which is Europe's lowest.

Official figures show that the number of births fell by a further 2.8% last year. Meanwhile, the mortality rate rose by 1.5% compared with 2004.

The birth rate is exceptionally low in the former East Germany, where the city of Chemnitz is thought to have the lowest birth rate in the world.

Economists say Europe's population decline threatens to damage economic growth for decades.

The data from Germany's Office for Federal Statistics show there were 686,000 births last year - half as many as in the early 1960s.

Germany has had the lowest birth rate in Europe for some time and this trend has been confirmed.

In 2005 it had 8.5 births per 1,000 inhabitants, compared with 12 in Britain, 12.7 in France and 15.2 in Ireland.

The German cabinet approved proposals earlier this year for a new state allowance to encourage people to have children.

Germany registered 830,000 deaths last year - an increase of 1.5% over the 2004 figure.


FERTILITY RATES
In Europe 2.1 children per woman is considered to be the population replacement level. These are national averages
Ireland: 1.99
France: 1.90
Norway: 1.81
Sweden 1.75
UK: 1.74
Netherlands: 1.73
Germany: 1.37
Italy: 1.33
Spain: 1.32
Greece: 1.29
Source: Eurostat - 2004 figures


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4793997.stm




http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7933/eurosiu1.jpg
So I guess if trends continue, there wont be any hot blond german chick stereotype by 2100, as the very Germany will be taken over by ugly people and real germans will constitude a slim minority...

People from "German" majority in 2067??

http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2005-03-17/muslim-crowd.jpg
http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Muslim_Crowd-WEB.gif
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40149000/jpg/_40149393_crowd-afp300.jpg

And what Germans want now (or at least 2000)?

Half of the German public believes there are too many foreigners in the country and two-thirds want tighter restrictions on immigration, according to a poll released by the Emnid institute on November 10, 2000.

http://www.migrationint.com.au/news/switzerland/dec_2000-10mn.asp

But some people are trying to change somethings. It's hard tho, because the culture is not child friendly. Blame some leftist circles who yell Nazis when their small minds are challanged by opposite views. Increasing birth rates is kinda controversial since it's what Hitler did. I guess these moronic people of some leftist circles might object to breathing since Hitler did that too...


Dwindling Germans review policies

In the latest in our series about motherhood and the role of the state in encouraging couples to have more children, the BBC's Tristana Moore in Berlin has been meeting women to find out why Germany has one of the lowest birth rates in Europe.

"Baby shock: Germans are dying out." This headline was recently splashed across the front page of Bild, Germany's biggest-selling tabloid.

It came as the Federal Statistics Office published preliminary figures showing around 676,000 children were born in Germany in 2005 - 4.2% lower than in 2004. Compare that with the figures after World War II: in 1946, 922,000 babies were born.

A German woman has on average 1.37 children during her lifetime, well below the replacement level of 2.1 births per woman.

By the most widely used measure of birth rates in Germany - the number of births per 1,000 heads of population - Germany is right at the bottom of the table of European nations.

For years, demographers and politicians have warned about the dangers of a declining birth rate and ageing population. But the recent statistics make uncomfortable reading, and it's prompted a passionate debate in the German media.

Elisabeth Boele, 38, has two children - four-year-old Jonas, and Anton, who is two.

'Male workaholics'

"Children are very important. It's definitely altered my attitude towards life," said Elisabeth.

"I've just changed jobs because it was too difficult to combine my former job as a lawyer in an international law firm with my children and family life.

"It's sometimes hard to convince male workaholics that the family has priority on weekends. I'll now start a job where I get paid less and which is hopefully less demanding timewise."

And what about attitudes to women in the workplace?

"More employers have understood that if they don't want to do without a qualified female workforce, then they have to create the options for women to work part-time. But this doesn't necessarily mean that you can count on a lot of sympathy as a working mum," says Elisabeth.

She concedes that the government does offer financial incentives for women to have children, but questions whether they are the right ones.


"Why do you have to pay for your kindergarten but not for schools or universities [in most German states]? What kind of signal does this give for women who want to go quickly back to their job?" she says.

She also says working mothers are perceived as selfish in Germany - and suggests the situation is better in other European countries.


New proposals

Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition government has pushed Germany's dwindling birth rate to the top of the political agenda. While Chancellor Merkel herself has no children, the Federal Minister for Family Affairs, Ursula von der Leyen, is a mother of seven.
Little wonder then that Frau von der Leyen has announced a series of proposals to encourage more couples to have children.

They include a new form of state-funded child welfare support, whereby parents (either the mother or father) will be entitled to 67% of their previous incomes while staying at home, up to a maximum of 1,800 euros (£1,240; $2,160) per month.

The scheme is intended to be flexible, and it's limited to a period of 10 months, with an additional two months for the other parent (usually the father). There are also plans to allow parents to offset up to 4,000 euros of childcare costs each year. But these measures still need to be passed into law, and they could face stiff opposition in parliament.

"It's so important to have a family. I want to bring children into this world," said Christel Champaen, 35, from Munich. She has two children, a seven-week-old baby boy and a four-year-old girl.

Christel used to work in an office, but she gave up her job when she became pregnant.

"My husband works, and I look after the children. I really wish that I could also work. I want to combine having a family with my career."

She says the government should do more to encourage women who want to have children.

"It's difficult to get a place for your child in a kindergarten. We were lucky and we found a place, though we have to pay 120 euros a month to have one child in the kindergarten. It's expensive. I would like to have more children, but I think it's going to be too difficult. I also don't want to give up my job for ever," she added.

The statistics are worrying politicians. According to European Union estimates, 30% of German women have not had children.


"I'd like to have children, but I can't see a way of keeping up my career and having a family," said Nikola Cordes, a 33-year-old lawyer.

"In Germany, it's still not accepted at work for a woman to be successful and for her to have children at the same time. All of my bosses are men," she said.

Regional variations

"I think many women want to combine family and work, but if society doesn't permit that, then women opt for their career," said Steffen Kroehnert, from the Berlin Institute for Population and Development.

"When you compare Germany with other European countries, you have a higher birth rate in, for example, Sweden or Denmark, where there is higher gender equality on the labour market."

The institute has published a report in response to the latest demographic figures.

"In our survey, we found huge regional variations," Mr Kroehnert said.

"For example, there is a declining population in eastern Germany, with only some islands of stability, for instance around Dresden and Berlin, yet there's a higher birth rate in Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bavaria.

"The hi-tech industries which have developed in eastern Germany cannot solve the problems of depopulation and unemployment because we need more low-skilled jobs."

Many demographers have different theories to explain why Germany has a dwindling birth rate.

The reasons range from poor child care and inflexible labour laws to high youth unemployment and extended higher education. But the consequences are clear: if birth rates continue to fall, then there will be a smaller workforce to support the needs of the elderly.


As Germans examine their attitudes to parenting, some may recognise that Germany has a male-dominated work environment and that perhaps a new, radical way of thinking is required.

Germany has its first woman chancellor in Angela Merkel. The question is: Will she introduce policies to help women, and is society ready for change?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4852040.stm

This is sad really. But we have to be optimistic and hope that trends will change...

It would be better for the world if it didn't...

But some people are trying to change somethings. It's hard tho, because the culture is not child friendly. Blame some leftist circles who yell Nazis when their small minds are challanged by opposite views. Increasing birth rates is kinda controversial since it's what Hitler did. I guess these moronic people of some leftist circles might object to breathing since Hitler did that too...


Well, the world is already overpopulated which I would assume is where the controversy is coming in. If anyone is yelling Nazi! It would be because of:
" So I guess if trends continue, there wont be any hot blond german chick stereotype by 2100, as the very Germany will be taken over by ugly people and real germans will constitude a slim minority...

People from "German" majority in 2067??

http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2005-03-17/muslim-crowd.jpg
http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Muslim_Crowd-WEB.gif
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40149000/jpg/_40149393_crowd-afp300.jpg"

http://olivier.fouge.free.fr/Images/100troll.gif

leave germany alone.

Hehe, you know, I reckon this is one of the best OP's so far. Sure made me laugh.

Anyways, let's do a Pro v Con with this:

Pro
I will become a rarity! As you all know, demand and supply will end up allowing me to pick much hotter girls internationally.
Germany will be cured of its eternal pessimistic fatalism (it's contagious, you know ;) )
It'll be the ultimate settlement of the Holocaust-guilt issue.
No more skinhead Neonazis and NPD.

Contra
We'll have to say goodbye to German girls (http://www.bmfsfj.de/RedaktionBMFSFJ/Internetredaktion/Inhalte-statisch/Bilder/Ministerium-Geschichte-Merkel,property=bild,width=176,height=237.jpg), and instead have a look at non-German ones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg5kkGr0bbQ&mode=related&search=).
No more German musicians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFF5Jgup-EA), instead the children of immigrants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmkLsUexqMI).

Oh, well.

Hehe, you know, I reckon this is one of the best OP's so far. Sure made me laugh.

Anyways, let's do a Pro v Con with this:

Pro
I will become a rarity! As you all know, demand and supply will end up allowing me to pick much hotter girls internationally.
Germany will be cured of its eternal pessimistic fatalism (it's contagious, you know ;) )
It'll be the ultimate settlement of the Holocaust-guilt issue.
No more skinhead Neonazis and NPD.

Contra
We'll have to say goodbye to German girls (http://www.bmfsfj.de/RedaktionBMFSFJ/Internetredaktion/Inhalte-statisch/Bilder/Ministerium-Geschichte-Merkel,property=bild,width=176,height=237.jpg), and instead have a look at non-German ones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg5kkGr0bbQ&mode=related&search=).
No more German musicians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFF5Jgup-EA), instead the children of immigrants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmkLsUexqMI).

Oh, well.

Would it be too much if I was your Kinda-Smithers for the second time in one day?

Would it be too much if I was your Kinda-Smithers for the second time in one day?

Are you trying to make Laerod jealous or is this a 3some thing?

No more German musicians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFF5Jgup-EA), instead the children of immigrants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmkLsUexqMI).[/list]

Oh, well.

i acutally enjoyed the german one better

rap is not my thing

rap is not my thing
Oh, I can find more (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErYKwDxiK4)...rest assured.

If a bit of diversity destroys German Spießer-culture, then I say: Open the flood gates. Pronto.

EDIT: The perfect piece - http://www.zeit.de/2006/25/Untergang_xml

So, in the next couple centuries the Germans will cease?
The German people have already given me my extensive collection of Rammstein and Wagner, as well as the writings of Nietzsche and my DVD copies of M and Untergang; so, I really see no need for them to continue existing past this point.
It can only go down hill from here, you see.

OHNOES what we will we do without the MASTER RACE?

This is nothing but GENOCIDE against GOOD WHITE PEOPLE perpetrated by EVIL NON WHITE IMMIGRANTS!

And the JEWS are also behind it too! They control the LIBERAL MEDIA which is biased in favor of PRO IMMIGRATION and BIRTH CONTROL, which are two WEAPONS used to KILL WHITEY.

Right NN?

OHNOES what we will we do without the MASTER RACE?

This is nothing but GENOCIDE against GOOD WHITE PEOPLE perpetrated by EVIL NON WHITE IMMIGRANTS!

And the JEWS are also behind it too! They control the LIBERAL MEDIA which is biased in favor of PRO IMMIGRATION and BIRTH CONTROL, which are two WEAPONS used to KILL WHITEY.

Right NN?

OH NOES!!!1!!111! Damn those evil racists wanting to preserve the original ethnicity of a nation!!!! They must be like evil native Americans!!! And they use liberal in its correct sense!!! Such evil intelligence!!!!

The world is, you know, overpopulated. In the long run declining birth rates can only be a good thing.

OH NOES!!!1!!111! Damn those evil racists wanting to preserve the original ethnicity of a nation!!!! They must be like evil native Americans!!! And they use liberal in its correct sense!!! Such evil intelligence!!!!

I was wondering when you will rear your black head...

I was wondering how long it'd take for you to forget you were not going to "waste your time replying" to me. Not long, as it turns out.

Have you ever considered trying to repopulate the Master White Race yourself? I mean, all you have to do is find a few hundred or thousand women who are willing to carry your seed. Shouldn't be too difficult with all that "intelligence" and your obvious charm.

That way, instead of whining about it, you'd be doing something about it.

OH NOES!!!1!!111! Damn those evil racists wanting to preserve the original ethnicity of a nation!!!! They must be like evil native Americans!!! And they use liberal in its correct sense!!! Such evil intelligence!!!!
Yeah, but, the Native Americans lost and have been reduced to a marginalised minority in their former lands, so I don't know if they're the best role models to follow when preserving your "race."

The world is, you know, overpopulated. In the long run declining birth rates can only be a good thing.

Germany is a country which heavily invests in green technology. A 60 million Germany will have less funding for such research (due to smaller economy) as well as less scientists. An 80 million Germany can come up with a good environmentalist technology(ies) which can be implemented to the rest of the world. A 60 million Germany might not achive this or might achive later. Hence an 80 million germany could be "less polluting" then an 60 million Germany.
There are no direct and certain correlation between population size and environmental damage.

So, in the next couple centuries the Germans will cease?
The German people have already given me my extensive collection of Rammstein and Wagner, as well as the writings of Nietzsche and my DVD copies of M and Untergang; so, I really see no need for them to continue existing past this point.
It can only go down hill from here, you see.
Wait! Don't you want the sequel to Untergang? :D
Have you ever considered trying to repopulate the Master White Race yourself? I mean, all you have to do is find a few hundred or thousand women who are willing to carry your seed. Shouldn't be too difficult with all that "intelligence" and your obvious charm.

That way, instead of whining about it, you'd be doing something about it.
Can he please do that somewhere else? Germany really doesn't need those genes. We ain't that desperate.

:rolleyes:

First world population dynamics eventually fall below replacement levels. It's part of demographic transition. Population J-curves, then J crashes, until it reaches an even S-curve.

I wouldn't start panicing yet.

Not that it really matters anyway. Your skin isn't what matters.

Yeah, but, the Native Americans lost and have been reduced to a marginalised minority in their former lands, so I don't know if they're the best role models to follow when preserving your "race." Oh, I don't know. At least it would finally give us a good excuse to wear our traditional garb and headdress. And lord knows we really need (http://www.runforlife.de/grafik/Bayern.jpg) one.

*sigh*The usual idiotic responses. And it is headed as per usual by the German hating German idiot Neu Leonstein.

:rolleyes:

First world population dynamics eventually fall below replacement levels. It's part of demographic transition. Population J-curves, then J crashes, until it reaches an even S-curve.

I wouldn't start panicing yet.

Not that it really matters anyway. Your skin isn't what matters.

USA is 1st world but at replacement level. Sweden was there too during 90's...most of europe was there during 60's...
UAE got something like 20,000$ GDP per capita but still with a high birth rate...

Germany is a country which heavily invests in green technology. A 60 million Germany will have less funding for such research (due to smaller economy) as well as less scientists. An 80 million Germany can come up with a good environmentalist technology(ies) which can be implemented to the rest of the world. A 60 million Germany might not achive this or might achive later. Hence an 80 million germany could be "less polluting" then an 60 million Germany.
There are no direct and certain correlation between population size and environmental damage.
Pfft. It could also mean that those 60 million will mostly consist of zee scientists who will produce green tech for zee rest of zee world.
Oh, I don't know. At least it would finally give us a good excuse to wear our traditional garb and headdress. And lord knows we really need (http://www.runforlife.de/grafik/Bayern.jpg) one.
Oh nein, nein, nein!!! http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/ohman.gif

- snip - Flaming much?

Oh, I don't know. At least it would finally give us a good excuse to wear our traditional garb and headdress. And lord knows we really need (http://www.runforlife.de/grafik/Bayern.jpg) one.

LMAO....Headdress might be compulsory since it'd be the Islamikrepublik Deutschland....

*sigh*The usual idiotic responses. And it is headed as per usual by the German hating German idiot Neu Leonstein.

Don't you mean to say "race traitor?"

Flaming much?
The truth hurts doesn't it?

USA is 1st world but at replacement level. Sweden was there too during 90's...most of europe was there during 60's...
UAE got something like 20,000$ GDP per capita but still with a high birth rate...

:rolleyes:

The USA is at the top of it's J-curve. Additional population growth currently comes from immigration.

UAE is not yet First world. Part of the requirement for First World status is the availability of contraception (the reason that J-curves turn into crashes).

Wait! Don't you want the sequel to Untergang? :D
Hm . . . Untergang II: Electric Boogaloo?
"Hitler returns from the grave to join a break-dancing competition in order to save an Übermenschen Community Center from being burned down by International Jewery. Be sure to look out for the cameo appearance of a drunken and belligernent Mel Gibson."

I suppose the German people do have something to live for, after all. Well, then, keep on NyN, keep on.

*sigh*The usual idiotic responses. And it is headed as per usual by the German hating German idiot Neu Leonstein.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/violent-smiley-092.gif

LMAO....Headdress might be compulsory since it'd be the Islamikrepublik Deutschland....

I take it your problem is not falling German birthrates, but German birthrates falling below immigrant birthrates.

Yeah, but, the Native Americans lost and have been reduced to a marginalised minority in their former lands, so I don't know if they're the best role models to follow when preserving your "race."

No, but they are an important example of what happens when the original population is overrun. Democratic western values might as well be marginalized by muslim majority as well....

The truth hurts doesn't it?
Oh yeah. Terribly. Especially when served up by someone whose opinion surely is very valuable.

I take it your problem is not falling German birthrates, but German birthrates falling below immigrant birthrates.
That's the whole point of this thread. And the ones that came before it.

Oh, I don't know. At least it would finally give us a good excuse to wear our traditional garb and headdress. And lord knows we really need (http://www.runforlife.de/grafik/Bayern.jpg) one.
Mmm . . . such manly men as these are truly the stuff of legend.
Or at least those legends that pertain to ethnicly-confused leprechauns.

:rolleyes:

The USA is at the top of it's J-curve. Additional population growth currently comes from immigration.

UAE is not yet First world. Part of the requirement for First World status is the availability of contraception (the reason that J-curves turn into crashes).

Triple :rolleyes:

I'm talking about birth rates not population growth. Dont be too ignorant as to not being able to differentiate them..

Oh and contraception is very much available in UAE. Again, think before you say silly things...

No, but they are an important example of what happens when the original population is overrun. Democratic western values might as well be marginalized by muslim majority as well....

It's a fallacious analogy and always has been. Native Americans were *invaded* and *conquered.* Germany is not being invaded or conquered by anyone.

No matter how many times you make the analogy, immigration is not invasion, and declining birth rates in Germany is not "genocide" against "whites."

Hm . . . Untergang II: Electric Boogaloo?
"Hitler returns from the grave to join a break-dancing competition in order to save an Übermenschen Community Center from being burned down by International Jewery. Be sure to look out for the cameo appearance of a drunken and belligernent Mel Gibson."
I suppose the German people do have something to live for, after all. Well, then, keep on NyN, keep on.
So, we already have the script! But I'd appreciate it deeply if you just let me live my life and not pull the plug too soon, a'ight?

*sigh*The usual idiotic responses. And it is headed as per usual by the German hating German idiot Neu Leonstein.
*burns several German flags*

You know what should be compulsory? Spending a year or two at a university campus in Australia. Nothing takes away the fear of diversity quite as well.

*burns several German flags*

You know what should be compulsory? Spending a year or two at a university campus in Australia. Nothing takes away the fear of diversity quite as well.
Do you really hate me, idiot? :(

Oh yeah. Terribly. Especially when served up by someone whose opinion surely is very valuable.
You just prooved what I said earlier.

So, we already have the script! But I'd appreciate it deeply if you just let me live my life and not pull the plug too soon, a'ight?
I have never felt a stronger desire to move to move to Germany, seek out a cast, and write/direct a feature length film about Hitler returning from the dead than I do now.
And, yes, that is actually a fairly common desire on my part. At least as common as the urge to dance naked on the roof of my dorm building.

No, but they are an important example of what happens when the original population is overrun. Democratic western values might as well be marginalized by muslim majority as well....

Yes, because what happened to the Native American tribes is exactly what is happening now.:rolleyes:

*burns several German flags*
Leftovers from the World Cup? [Maybe you should keep a little one? The Eurocup is up ahead, next game on Saturday against Ireland!]

*burns several German flags*

You know what should be compulsory? Spending a year or two at a university campus in Australia. Nothing takes away the fear of diversity quite as well.

OH NOESS!!!111!!! We should cure the diversityphobia before evil racist take over!!!

*burns several German flags*

You know what should be compulsory? Spending a year or two at a university campus in Australia. Nothing takes away the fear of diversity quite as well.
Strike 2. Now let's see if you can use the 'N' word properly.

You just prooved what I said earlier.
Honey, I don't think you've actually said anything yet.

Honey, I don't think you've actually said anything yet.
And you have?

Do you really hate me, idiot? :(
Of course not. I have special permits to excuse some people from by hatred. You just earned one.

Leftovers from the World Cup?
Well, I only really own one (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/Leonstein/FloTrip15small.jpg). And I made that one myself, hurting myself with needles and stuff. I spilled blood for it, so to speak. :D

OH NOESS!!!111!!! We should cure the diversityphobia before evil racist take over!!!
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Although "diversityphobia" sounds silly - let's call it "xenophobia" instead.

Yes, because what happened to the Native American tribes is exactly what is happening now.:rolleyes:

Does minority or becoming a minority ring a bell? Or are all the bells inside asylum?

Triple :rolleyes:

I'm talking about birth rates not population growth. Dont be too ignorant as to not being able to differentiate them..

Oh and contraception is very much available in UAE. Again, think before you say silly things...

Yes because a state where women are still encouraged to be babymakers-stuck-at-home has not only broad avalability of contraception, but also allows for the critical empowerment of woment to use it. :rolleyes:

And... The Birthrates in the US are beyond their peak and now falling. That happens in a first world country as women become more empowered.

Of course not. I have special permits to excuse some people from by hatred. You just earned one.


Well, I only really own one (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/Leonstein/FloTrip15small.jpg). And I made that one myself, hurting myself with needles and stuff. I spilled blood for it, so to speak. :D


Yeah, that's pretty much it. Although "diversityphobia" sounds silly - let's call it "xenophobia" instead.

I'm not xenophobic though. I'm totally accepting towards swedes or danes or icelanders or finnish or german or dutch or flemish...

I'm not xenophobic though. I'm totally accepting towards swedes or danes or icelanders or finnish or german or dutch or flemish...

but not the darkies, eh?

Does minority or becoming a minority ring a bell? Or are all the bells inside asylum?

Does the difference between military conquest and birthrate disparities exist only outside your asylum?

Strike 2. Now let's see if you can use the 'N' word properly.
Right. Because being against xenophobia and racism is the same thing as being xenophobic and racist.

I'll make this very clear: Learn. To. Judge. People. As. Individuals.

Right. Because being against xenophobia and racism is the same thing as being xenophobic and racist.

I'll make this very clear: Learn. To. Judge. People. As. Individuals.
And I did judge you.

Yes because a state where women are still encouraged to be babymakers-stuck-at-home has not only broad avalability of contraception, but also allows for the critical empowerment of woment to use it. :rolleyes:

And... The Birthrates in the US are beyond their peak and now falling. That happens in a first world country as women become more empowered.

The birthrates in USA increased from 1990's levels in 2000's. Dont let your ignorancy show more....
Sticking babymakers at home (lol) has more to do with culture than with 1st worldness. You dont have to be a western democracy to be first world. It's amusing that you roll your eyes despite your great ignorancy....:D

Well, I only really own one (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/Leonstein/FloTrip15small.jpg). And I made that one myself, hurting myself with needles and stuff. I spilled blood for it, so to speak. :D
That's the one I was thinking of when I said keep a little one :D

And you have?

Of course not. Aren't you thinking? In threads like this I've stopped actually "saying something" a long time ago. Saves me so much frustration.

The difference, of course, is that I don't come in flaming and insinuating and telling people they just "proved me right" when I haven't even said anything of note that could be proven right in the first place - especially nothing pertaining to the topic at hand even though I seem to have a very clear opinion on it, clear enough to come in flaming and insinuating and... you get the picture. Or not.

Does the difference between military conquest and birthrate disparities exist only outside your asylum?

Different method, same outcome. Canadian natives accepted Europeans immigrants instead of wars. Same result with USA. Your asylum and its perimeter must be awash with ignorancy...

Of course not. Aren't you thinking? In threads like this I've stopped actually "saying something" a long time ago. Saves me so much frustration.

The difference, of course, is that I don't come in flaming and insinuating and telling people they just "proved me right" when I haven't even said anything of note that could be proven right in the first place - especially nothing pertaining to the topic at hand even though I seem to have a very clear opinion on it, clear enough to come in flaming and insinuating and... you get the picture. Or not.
Yeah. You just come trolling.

Of course not. I have special permits to excuse some people from by hatred. You just earned one. Damn. I kinda liked calling you an idiot. :D

I'm not xenophobic though. I'm totally accepting towards swedes or danes or icelanders or finnish or german or dutch or flemish...

There's more genetic drift there than between skin tone, so what the hell are you afraid of?

Right. Because being against xenophobia and racism is the same thing as being xenophobic and racist.

I'll make this very clear: Learn. To. Judge. People. As. Individuals.

ROFLWAFFLE!!!

yea, but everyone knows that Ay-rabs/Indians/pakistanis/anyone wearing a turban think, act, and talk the same way

oh wait that means i'm not sensitive enough for you pc-nazis

/sarcasm

but not the darkies, eh?

I let brownies at home...Just ate one yesterday and craving one now...with chocolate sauce...yumm

And I did judge you.
Which is fine.
Hell, I don't mind you not liking me. I don't mind you not liking Ahmed H. or whatever.

I mind people not liking Turks or Arabs or Ausländer.

ignorancy

Dude, it's "ignorance". There's no such word as "ignorancy". I'd've thought you'd've been more familiar with the proper usage of that particular term...

So? If people don't want to have kids, they won't have kids.
If other people want to have kids, they will have kids.

Unless you want to start a campaign encouraging ethnically German women to have more kids, then yes, this is going to happen. Unless you're insinuating that somehow, the OMG Muslims are preventing German women from conceiving? Using propaganda to stop them having kids?

Dude, it's "ignorance". There's no such word as "ignorancy". I'd've thought you'd've been more familiar with the proper usage of that particular term...

It's 4 am and I drank 2 bottles of peach wine....

Edit: Ny Fjordland...very clever...but Nordland already got Fjords...And I'm not RPing, talking about the real Nordland...

Unless you want to start a campaign encouraging ethnically German women to have more kids, then yes, this is going to happen.

Don't they do something like that? A friend of mine in Germany married a German woman and he told me that they got "kindergeld" for having "German" kids. It could very well be wrong, but that's what he told me.

So? If people don't want to have kids, they won't have kids.
If other people want to have kids, they will have kids.
They would if politicians from all parties wouldn't discourage it.

Different method, same outcome. Canadian natives accepted Europeans immigrants instead of wars. Same result with USA. Your asylum and its perimeter must be awash with ignorancy...

Where are you getting this outcome from? Do you have a secret immigrant communique that outlines their plan to outbreed the natives and replace the government with a theocracy?

I'm not quite sure what you've got plastered on the walls of your asylum, but I'm gonna look away from the little window in your door and leave to your little ramblings. "I know! They only have to wait a few generations, and Germany is doomed! I'm the only one who knows!"

Have fun bouncing off those padded walls.

-
Sorry, I had to read that three times, 'cause my eyes were always on the cat... :D

But you're right.

Which is fine.
Hell, I don't mind you not liking me. I don't mind you not liking Ahmed H. or whatever.

I mind people not liking Turks or Arabs or Ausländer.

Then move to Canada. Total immigration society and they are reallly kind. It's like making you ask are these people high? Real nice people...

Don't they do something like that? A friend of mine in Germany married a German woman and he told me that they got "kindergeld" for having "German" kids. It could very well be wrong, but that's what he told me.
They get child support. Like in most European countries. They don't get 'payed' to have a child. Which wouldn'tdo much to increase birthrates anyway.

So?
Unless you want to start a campaign encouraging ethnically German women to have more kids, then yes, this is going to happen.

I don't think it will happen, I can't think of any society in history actually dying off because they weren't getting it on enough....

destroying an entire ethnic group is no easy task, I don't think anyones ever succeeded in doing it

Don't they do something like that? A friend of mine in Germany married a German woman and he told me that they got "kindergeld" for having "German" kids. It could very well be wrong, but that's what he told me.
Think of it as a tax-refund to help raise children.

The birthrates in USA increased from 1990's levels in 2000's. Dont let your ignorancy show more....
Sticking babymakers at home (lol) has more to do with culture than with 1st worldness. You dont have to be a western democracy to be first world. It's amusing that you roll your eyes despite your great ignorancy....:D

http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/pop_socio/pop_socio.html

Read the whole thing. It makes my point well enough. ;)

They get child support. Like in most European countries. They don't get 'payed' to have a child. Which wouldn'tdo much to increase birthrates anyway.

Ah, he must have been confused then. He didn't speak a bit of German (he was a US soldier, like I was) so he probably misconstrued what his wife told him when he asked why Germany was giving them money.

They had 8 kids, and between the Army and Germany they had enough money to rent a rather largish house, which aren't too cheap in the Frankfurt am Main area.

Ah, he must have been confused then. He didn't speak a bit of German (he was a US soldier, like I was) so he probably misconstrued what his wife told him when he asked why Germany was giving them money.
Probably.

They had 8 kids, and between the Army and Germany they had enough money to rent a rather largish house, which aren't too cheap in the Frankfurt am Main area.
So I've heard.

I don't think it will happen, I can't think of any society in history actually dying off because they weren't getting it on enough....

destroying an entire ethnic group is no easy task, I don't think anyones ever succeeded in doing it
And you sure know that the Germans have tried hard when it comes to that... :eek:

I don't think it will happen, I can't think of any society in history actually dying off because they weren't getting it on enough....

destroying an entire ethnic group is no easy task, I don't think anyones ever succeeded in doing it

Either I was unclear, or you misunderstood my point.

If Group A decides to have fewer children, and Group B decides to have more, then eventually Group B will outnumber Group A.

I never equated it to genocide.

Think of it as a tax-refund to help raise children.

Yes. In the US you get tax benefits for having dependents as well.

Then move to Canada.
I want to. It sounds almost perfect. Although I could never stay in just one place.

They get child support. Like in most European countries. They don't get 'payed' to have a child. Which wouldn'tdo much to increase birthrates anyway.
Money isn't the way. A proper early childhood education system is. And that's what Germany certainly lacks.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,414520,00.html
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,414451,00.html

Where are you getting this outcome from? Do you have a secret immigrant communique that outlines their plan to outbreed the natives and replace the government with a theocracy?

I'm not quite sure what you've got plastered on the walls of your asylum, but I'm gonna look away from the little window in your door and leave to your little ramblings. "I know! They only have to wait a few generations, and Germany is doomed! I'm the only one who knows!"

Have fun bouncing off those padded walls.

This is from a German MP of Turkish descent:

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub99C3EECA60D84C08AD6B3E60C4EA807F/Doc~EB771CDAF0B4F4836B43E362A66392603~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

He is saying, basically, with their higher birthrate turks will outnumber germans in future and will achive what Süleyman couldnt in Vienna in 1683....
And you are very originial. Using that asylum thing I used back on me...

Either I was unclear, or you misunderstood my point.

If Group A decides to have fewer children, and Group B decides to have more, then eventually Group B will outnumber Group A.

I never equated it to genocide.

Group B definately have more children and they keep coming via immigration...

I don't think it will happen, I can't think of any society in history actually dying off because they weren't getting it on enough....

destroying an entire ethnic group is no easy task, I don't think anyones ever succeeded in doing it

Noone is talking about ethnic cleansing. Learn to read properly. I'm talking about a majority turning into a minority...

Money isn't the way.
And I didn't say it is.

Don't they do something like that? A friend of mine in Germany married a German woman and he told me that they got "kindergeld" for having "German" kids. It could very well be wrong, but that's what he told me.

All european countries have got some sorta child welfare. Germans sux though. That's why their birth rate is so much lower than "kinda-pro-natalist" France. And it's not just family policies, it's the whole system. Schools finish at noon there, for gods sake. Very inconvinient for working mums.

For all you 'diversity haters'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5h4uhwWW68

Noone is talking about ethnic cleansing. Learn to read properly. I'm talking about a majority turning into a minority...

correct! neither was I, I was talking about the durability of a large mass of people. Population growth rates rise and fall, Soon there will probably be a german baby boom generation, then we will be here, complaining about over population.

I want to. It sounds almost perfect. Although I could never stay in just one place.


Money isn't the way. A proper early childhood education system is. And that's what Germany certainly lacks.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,414520,00.html
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,414451,00.html

So? Move from Vancouver to Toronto and then Halifax or maybe Québec....And then seduce all your PC friends with charms of Canada and covince them to move. And in turn they should seduce their own PC friends. Sorta like an amway pyramid to get rid of your kind here :D

correct! neither was I, I was talking about the durability of a large mass of people. Population growth rates rise and fall, Soon there will probably be a german baby boom generation, then we will be here, complaining about over population.

I'm whining about current trends. When they change or at least there is an indication that they might change, I'll stop...Coffee is wearing out finally so good night....

Ah, he must have been confused then. He didn't speak a bit of German (he was a US soldier, like I was) so he probably misconstrued what his wife told him when he asked why Germany was giving them money.

They had 8 kids, and between the Army and Germany they had enough money to rent a rather largish house, which aren't too cheap in the Frankfurt am Main area.
OMG! More disgusting foreigners breeding with our women and polluting the pure germanic gene pool.
And the German govt is encouraging them by handing out cash for every little half-breed mulatto.
This is exactly what Ny is rambling on about!

So, in the next couple centuries the Germans will cease?
The German people have already given me my extensive collection of Rammstein and Wagner, as well as the writings of Nietzsche and my DVD copies of M and Untergang; so, I really see no need for them to continue existing past this point.
It can only go down hill from here, you see.


you forgot the best thing germany ever did...cars..i love bimmers and porches...although i lean towards ferraris..as i am a reckless individual..lol...i can live without german girls,as i live without girls period.

but if i need a blond..i suppose i can go find a scandanavian....or the numerous wannabe blondes here in the states.

i like women period..color or hair does not matter much to me...but if it did..like i said...i have alternatives.

to the REAL POINT of the op....so what,germany can go the way of the dodo as far as i care...so can my country(the us)if we in the us are overrun and eventually become artifacts due to the mexican invasion,we only have our selves to blame for our extinction...as does germany/france....all of the west.

i dont want to leave my kids that legacy and nightmare...but if it makes the know it all globalists happy..i guees it cant be wrong..lol:confused:

I'm whining about current trends. When they change or at least there is an indication that they might change, I'll stop...Coffee is wearing out finally so good night....Whine about your own country.

you forgot the best thing germany ever did...cars..i love bimmers and porches...although i lean towards ferraris..as i am a reckless individual..lol...i can live without german girls,as i live without girls period.

but if i need a blond..i suppose i can go find a scandanavian....or the numerous wannabe blondes here in the states.
I'm not much of a car person, and blondes are just wanna-be Red-heads who lack the pigment to do anything about it, so . . .
Come to think of it, I actually don't know where I'm going with this.

OMG! More disgusting foreigners breeding with our women and polluting the pure germanic gene pool.
And the German govt is encouraging them by handing out cash for every little half-breed mulatto.
This is exactly what Ny is rambling on about!

Not only that, but that particular US soldier was of the African-American persuasion.

For all you 'diversity haters'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5h4uhwWW68

Holy shit. It looks like South-Central Los Angeles.:(

Holy shit. It looks like South-Central Los Angeles.:(

gotta love fox news

"The muslims stretched swedish tolerance by existing, so they deserved to get their mosque burned down":rolleyes:

Does the difference between military conquest and birthrate disparities exist only outside your asylum?

Evidently so.

NN has posted before that he sees this as 'genocide' and he's said immigration is "invasion." I doubt he's changed his opinion since then. And it's a good way for him to try to play the "if you disagree with me, you hate Native Americans" victim-by-association card.

Meh. I couldn't care less if the "German race" died out (I won't go into the details about how there is no succh thing to begin with again).

And obviously, most of my fellow-Germans don't, either. It's our decision to make, not yours, Ny Nordland. Find something else to whine about and eave my womb alone, will you?

Meh. I couldn't care less if the "German race" died out (I won't go into the details about how there is no succh thing to begin with again).

And obviously, most of my fellow-Germans don't, either. It's our decision to make, not yours, Ny Nordland. Find something else to whine about and eave my womb alone, will you?

But I dont believe in borders. They are so artificial. We are all human. I should be whining whereever I want....:D

But I dont believe in borders. They are so artificial. We are all human. I should be whining whereever I want....

Anyone else find this ironic?

For all you 'diversity haters'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5h4uhwWW68

I'm surprised a swedish TV broadcasted this. They dont usually broadcast truths, i.e: hugely overrepresented immigrants in crime statistics...They'll probably end up like dutch. Let's hope it wont be too late by then...
This is what the leader of Denmark's 3rd biggest party has to say:

"If they want to turn Stockholm, Göteborg or Malmö into a Scandinavian Beirut, with clan wars, honour killings and gang rapes, let them do it. We can always put a barrier on the Öresund Bridge."

If there's anything the 60s should have taught us is that religious fundamentalism is no match for sex, drugs and rock and roll. These things will sort themselves out in a generation or two. :)

But I dont believe in borders. They are so artificial. We are all human. I should be whining whereever I want....:D

Why would you whine about other people's lifestyle choices, though?

Whine about your own country.

Quoted for "please listen to this guy"-ness.

Oh, and what exactly is your problem here, NN?
Is it the oh so obviously superior master race going extinct? Or the oh so obviously inferior brownies becoming the majority? (BTW, whom do you refer to using "they"? Them sand niggers? These pesky Polacks? The half-bestial Russian hordes?)

Or is it merely the fact no sensible girl, whatever her colour, wants to fuck you?

Why would you whine about other people's lifestyle choices, though?

Neither you nor other Germans posting in this thread are representitive of Germany. You can only speak for yourself, not for a whole country. Dont portray this eventual overrunning of Germans as a choice of Germans. Many posts in this thread are already too idiotic.


Half of the German public believes there are too many foreigners in the country and two-thirds want tighter restrictions on immigration, according to a poll released by the Emnid institute on November 10, 2000.


http://www.migrationint.com.au/news/switzerland/dec_2000-10mn.asp

Neither you nor other Germans posting in this thread are representitive of Germany.

But the Norwegian nerd is?

Quoted for "please listen to this guy"-ness.

Oh, and what exactly is your problem here, NN?
Is it the oh so obviously superior master race going extinct? Or the oh so obviously inferior brownies becoming the majority? (BTW, whom do you refer to using "they"? Them sand niggers? These pesky Polacks? The half-bestial Russian hordes?)

Or is it merely the fact no sensible girl, whatever her colour, wants to fuck you?

But the Norwegian nerd is?

I guess this is what they call psychological projection in psychology...:D

Neither you nor other Germans posting in this thread are representitive of Germany. You can only speak for yourself, not for a whole country. Dont portray this eventual overrunning of Germans as a choice of Germans. Many posts in this thread are already too idiotic.



http://www.migrationint.com.au/news/switzerland/dec_2000-10mn.asp

Well, true, I can only speak for one German, myself. You, on the other hand can speak for no German.
And I for one couldn't care less about Germany's birth rates.

Well, true, I can only speak for one German, myself. You, on the other hand can speak for no German.
And I for one couldn't care less about Germany's birth rates.

But if you read the 2nd article, you'd understand many do...And the difference between 0 and 1 isnt that great...

leave germany alone.

I don't think this thread is a negative look on Germans. The facts are surprising, but I don't think its the end of Germans!

FERTILITY RATES
In Europe 2.1 children per woman is considered to be the population replacement level. These are national averages
Ireland: 1.99
France: 1.90
Norway: 1.81
Sweden 1.75
UK: 1.74
Netherlands: 1.73
Germany: 1.37
Italy: 1.33
Spain: 1.32
Greece: 1.29
Source: Eurostat - 2004 figures
Well it certainly would make sense...

Who gives a fuck? In one hundred years there will just be a new german race. Just like there was a different one 100 years ago, and 300 years ago, and 500 years ago, and 1000, and 5000, and so on. Personally I am all for the mixing of races, it makes the human species stronger (More versatile, more likely to overcoma an existing epidemic, and more likely to possess resistances to future epidemics). If you wanna preserve the ethnic hygiene of the german race, don't bitch when the 'aryan plague' wipes out every last one of them in 2068. Diversify and conquer.

But if you read the 2nd article, you'd understand many do...And the difference between 0 and 1 isnt that great...

The difference between 0 and 1 is one of the biggest differences in the world.

And if so many Germans share your point of view, how come they don't take any kind of action? I would say if they don't agree with their current situation, it would be up to them to change it.

Why do you always complain about Germany? Your own statistics show that Greece, Spain and Italy have lower birth rates. Get off Germany's case... I'm pretty sure about 90% of the threads you've created have been about Germany. And like others have said, the Germans on these boards are a lot more representative of Germany than you are.

But if you read the 2nd article, you'd understand many do...And the difference between 0 and 1 isnt that great...
The difference between 0 and 1 is the same as the difference between 1 and infinity. It's huge, uncountable actually (In terms of fractions, which is the only way to deal with relativity). 1 is close to 2 (I suppose) it is 1/2 of two. What fraction of 1 is 0? The answer should be the same as what fraction of infinity 1 is.

Who gives a fuck? In one hundred years there will just be a new german race. Just like there was a different one 100 years ago, and 300 years ago, and 500 years ago, and 1000, and 5000, and so on. Personally I am all for the mixing of races, it makes the human species stronger (More versatile, more likely to overcoma an existing epidemic, and more likely to possess resistances to future epidemics). If you wanna preserve the ethnic hygiene of the german race, don't bitch when the 'aryan plague' wipes out every last one of them in 2068. Diversify and conquer.

Obviously, at least the people in the 2nd article gives a fuck. As for the new german "race", it might be more immune, but they'll certainly be uglier and probably less intelligent (http://www.news-medical.net/?id=9530)

Neither you nor other Germans posting in this thread are representitive of Germany.
As opposed to a Norwegian, who knows exactly what a German wants, correct?
You can only speak for yourself, not for a whole country.
Don't see why that doesn't apply to you, either.
Many posts in this thread are already too idiotic.
Straight from the horse's mouth, there.
http://www.migrationint.com.au/news/switzerland/dec_2000-10mn.asp
Oh thank God, now I can see what the Aussies have to say on what some Germans say on the matter...

you forgot the best thing germany ever did...cars..i love bimmers and porches...although i lean towards ferraris..

Um, doesn't BMW stand for British Motor Works? and aren't Ferraris Italian?

(and I think they're called Porsches. Porches are what's attached to the front of houses.) ;)

The difference between 0 and 1 is the same as the difference between 1 and infinity. It's huge, uncountable actually (In terms of fractions, which is the only way to deal with relativity). 1 is close to 2 (I suppose) it is 1/2 of two. What fraction of 1 is 0? The answer should be the same as what fraction of infinity 1 is.

What are you mumbling? :rolleyes:

0 - 1 = -1

1 - 0 = 1

infinity - 1 = infinity

1 - infinity = -infinity

I think this is secondary school math...

Why do you always complain about Germany? Your own statistics show that Greece, Spain and Italy have lower birth rates. Get off Germany's case... I'm pretty sure about 90% of the threads you've created have been about Germany. And like others have said, the Germans on these boards are a lot more representative of Germany than you are.
They don't even have good food. Somebody should be sticking a gun into the Italians' faces and telling them to screw (I volunteer). Actually...Somebody should be telling the Italians to screw with the Chinese, it'd be uber food. (again I volunteer). whoops too late

Obviously, at least the people in the 2nd article gives a fuck. As for the new german "race", it might be more immune, but they'll certainly be uglier and probably less intelligent (http://www.news-medical.net/?id=9530)
ROFLWAFFLES!

Right, because the towel heads and brown people are all inferior and stupid, and the Germans are so much better and smarter? Hmm, I wonder where I have seen that before?

Um, doesn't BMW stand for British Motor Works? and aren't Ferraris Italian?

(and I think they're called Porsches. Porches are what's attached to the front of houses.) ;)

Bavarian Motor Works ;)

What are you mumbling? :rolleyes:

0 - 1 = -1

1 - 0 = 1

infinity - 1 = infinity

1 - infinity = -infinity

I think this is secondary school math...
1 x infinity = infinity.
Nothing times 0 = 1.

What are you mumbling? :rolleyes:

0 - 1 = -1

1 - 0 = 1

infinity - 1 = infinity

1 - infinity = -infinity

I think this is secondary school math...

I'm talking about the elementary difference between something and nothing. I knew that was way above your head...

As opposed to a Norwegian, who knows exactly what a German wants, correct?

Don't see why that doesn't apply to you, either.

Straight from the horse's mouth, there.

Oh thank God, now I can see what the Aussies have to say on what some Germans say on the matter...

I'll only answer to last paragraph as the ones before are too idiotic and the last one summarized the whole idiocy. Emnid institute IS IN Germany. Read the quotes you are answering to. Or dont. I surely did laugh at you...:D

Neither you nor other Germans posting in this thread are representitive of Germany. You can only speak for yourself, not for a whole country. Dont portray this eventual overrunning of Germans as a choice of Germans. Many posts in this thread are already too idiotic.



http://www.migrationint.com.au/news/switzerland/dec_2000-10mn.asp

I would think that the Germans posting in this thread are a heck of a lot more representative of Germany than an Oceanian.

I'm talking about the elementary difference between something and nothing. I knew that was way above your head...

You are? Are you also GreaterPacificNations? I think, with your limited understanding of math, you are far from commenting distance from my head....

What are you mumbling? :rolleyes:

0 - 1 = -1

1 - 0 = 1

infinity - 1 = infinity

1 - infinity = -infinity

I think this is secondary school math...

Ah but that only pays attention to consecutivity, not relativity which is what you said. In comparison to 1, 0 is very far. By the above logic, 0 is close to 1,000,000 because 1,000,000 minus itself is equal to 0. The only way of measuring relativity is by fractions. 0 and infinity are miles away from any number. In incalculable. 0.00000001 is miles away from 0. But you're right, I am not talking about secondary school maths.

I'll only answer to last paragraph as the ones before are too idiotic and the last one summarized the whole idiocy. Emnid institute IS IN Germany. Read the quotes you are answering to. Or dont. I surely did laugh at you...:D
... dot com dot AU? :rolleyes:
You have repeatedly avoided answering why the Germans here know absolutely nothing about Germany and only you are qualified to speak for Germany. By the way, from your article:
The Federation of German Employers in November 2000 said that Germany needs 1.5 million skilled foreign workers to fill jobs in high-tech and engineering fields.

I'm talking about the elementary difference between something and nothing. I knew that was way above your head... Interestingly, that was what I said, only mathmatically.

Bavarian Motor Works ;)

I stand corrected. Ok, sit. ;)

Obviously, at least the people in the 2nd article gives a fuck. As for the new german "race", it might be more immune, but they'll certainly be uglier and probably less intelligent (http://www.news-medical.net/?id=9530)

Beauty is subjective. Besides, if everyone in germany looks like they will, they will be judging from that foundation. Current standards of beauty will hardly be applicable. Regardless of what anyone tells you, Intelligence cannot be quantified yet. Don't even start me on IQ.

As for the new german "race", they'll certainly be uglier and probably less intelligent
What'll it be next?

Wer beim Araber kauft ist ein Volksgeträter(?), eh?

You are? Are you also GreaterPacificNations? I think, with your limited understanding of math, you are far from commenting distance from my head....
Sounds like you're right NN, far far from commenting distance.

anyway, i really hope this eventually happens to all races. the world is overpopulated, and the amount of people on it needs to decrease.

My chinese girlfriend is more beautiful than any german girl, and intelligent...well, it scares me sometimes.

My chinese girlfriend is more beautiful than any german girl, and intelligent...well, it scares me sometimes.
*is smug* [Chinese here]

I'm only half-German myself, so I don't really care. I have made bad experiences with people of foreign origin as well as with people who are 100% German.
So my most philosophical statement on the whole issue is:

Who cares?

As for the new german "race", it might be more immune, but they'll certainly be uglier and probably less intelligent

Than what? You? Jesus! We should probably nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. :)

*is smug* [Chinese here]
Hey, what can I say. The chinese, when they are good, ther are very, very good. Unfortunately, when they are bad, they are very, very bad. I hold the honest beleif that the worlds hottest, and ugliest girls are both probably Chinese.

Hey, what can I say. The chinese, when they are good, ther are very, very good. Unfortunately, when they are bad, they are very, very bad. I hold the honest beleif that the worlds hottest, and ugliest girls are both probably Chinese.
Heh. I think I know which category I fit in :( :p

Heh. I think I know which category I fit in :( :p
Hey, they didn't create paper bags for nothing :p Are you a chick? Because what I said only really applies to the girls. The guys are hard for me to judge, being hetero. 我们知道你最美 :p

Such a lamentable shame that people here actually applaud the loss of the ethnic Germans. Sure, there are beautiful non-whites out there too, but none attract me, and frankly I do not see what the problem is with wanting more whites in the world. Fewer means less attractive people in my view. Even if you just see white skin as no more than a colour, I cannot and will not sympathise with the view that a decline in numbers is a happy thing.

Oh, and by the way - those who think that only Germans can produce Nazis and such are deluded. Southern Europeans, like the Spanish, can be as racist, if not more, than today's Germans. So sorry to burst your bubble, but Germans are by no means inherently Nazi...

I can't wait for the day Europeans actually decide to adopt pro-natal policies and invest in things that matter, such as robotics, as opposed to bloated welfare states and failing industries, such as agriculture. The world as a whole is overpopulated - Europe, by contrast, is underpopulated. Overpopulated countries have the logic to restrict birth rates, lest they melt down. What do we do? Nothing.

anyway, i really hope this eventually happens to all races. the world is overpopulated, and the amount of people on it needs to decrease.
This I can agree with. 20% of the current global population is a good amount. At its current numbers, it is outrageous.

Hey, what can I say. The chinese, when they are good, ther are very, very good. Unfortunately, when they are bad, they are very, very bad. I hold the honest beleif that the worlds hottest, and ugliest girls are both probably Chinese.
I think the Japanese have you beat on this. :p

OH NOES! TEH BLACK PEOPLES!!!

Such a lamentable shame that people here actually applaud the loss of the ethnic Germans. Sure, there are beautiful non-whites out there too, but none attract me, and franklu I do not see what the problem is with wanting more whites in the world. Fewer means less attractive people in my view. Even if you just see white skin as no more than a colour, I cannot and will not sympathise with the view that a decline in numbers is a happy thing.

Not happy. Just perfectly indifferent, really. And it's not as if Germany - or, for that matter, Europe on the whole - was the only place where white skinned people live.


I can't wait for the day Europeans actually decide to adopt pro-natal policies and invest in things that matter, such as robotics, as opposed to bloated welfare states and failing industries, such as agriculture. The world as a whole is overpopulated - Europe, by contrast, is underpopulated. Overpopulated countries have the logic to restrict birth rates, lest they melt down. What do we do? Nothing.

Do you seriously think that this is something that can be solved by spending money on it? Are you suggesting to try and bribe people to have kids? I've a feeling that policy will result in some amazing examples of parenting... and I seriously never would want to meet those kids.

Not happy. Just perfectly indifferent, really. And it's not as if Germany - or, for that matter, Europe on the whole - was the only place where white skinned people live.
The majority of the world's white population lives here though. The US is also faced with similar prospects in the future, Russia is already declining, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa are insignificantly small - so Europe is pretty much the only place.

Do you seriously think that this is something that can be solved by spending money on it? Are you suggesting to try and bribe people to have kids? I've a feeling that policy will result in some amazing examples of parenting... and I seriously never would want to meet those kids.
Anything that encourages middle and upper classes to have more children. Not necessarily pecuniary incentives. I think countries which adopt such measures, such as France, enjoy considerable success with them.

Anyway, when it comes to robotics, yes here I seriously do believe it is a worthwhile investment. It could do away with much need for labour. Japan has realised this perforce.

*snip*

I think the Japanese have you beat on this. :p
Oh I'm not chinese. I don't fancy the Japanese(I don't not fancy them either. To me they are on par with Germans, no opinion). Not sure why...

Such a lamentable shame that people here actually applaud the loss of the ethnic Germans. Oh, good heavens, its not like 80 million people will vanish because there's 20,000 less in this year as compared to previous years. :rolleyes:

Oh, good heavens, its not like 80 million people will vanish because there's 20,000 less in this year as compared to previous years. :rolleyes:
I wasn't referring to that - I was referring to the actual prospect of it happening, which seems to enthuse some.

I wasn't referring to that - I was referring to the actual prospect of it happening, which seems to enthuse some.By definition, it's not going to happen in my lifetime, so there's no real reason for me to worry about it.

Oh I'm not chinese. I don't fancy the Japanese(I don't not fancy them either. To me they are on par with Germans, no opinion). Not sure why...
I only find the Japanese objectively beautiful really - they don't attract me at all. Non-whites simply don't.

As for Germans, I think their brethren in the North are better looking, but they still aren't bad. :)

By definition, it's not going to happen in my lifetime, so there's no real reason for me to worry about it.
Whatever suits you I suppose.

I only find the Japanese objectively beautiful really - they don't attract me at all. Non-whites simply don't.

As for Germans, I think their brethren in the North are better looking, but they still aren't bad. :)


Whatever suits you I suppose. Sounds like social values/conditioning on your part as opposed to an actual lacking on the part of all non-whites.

Sounds like social values/conditioning on your part as opposed to an actual lacking on the part of all non-whites.
No, it's not as if I try not to like them sexually. I just don't. Same with women. They do not attract me one iota, even though many can be gorgeous.

I wasn't referring to that - I was referring to the actual prospect of it happening, which seems to enthuse some.
I see it as both inconsequential, and inevitable. It has happened countless times in the past, it is happening now, and it will happen in the future. You think that the germans you see now were the same as the germans that were there 200, 500, 1000 years ago? They aren't magical. Just another step in the ongoing phenotypal dance.

No, it's not as if I try not to like them sexually. I just don't. Same with women. They do not attract me one iota, even though many can be gorgeous. Exactly. I'm not criticisng, just clarifying. Again, being attracted to one gender doesn't imply an objective fault in the other.

I see it as both inconsequential, and inevitable. It has happened countless times in the past, it is happening now, and it will happen in the future. You think that the germans you see now were the same as the germans that were there 200, 500, 1000 years ago? They aren't magical. Just another step in the ongoing phenotypal dance.
Oh well, all I can say is I am happy that I will not be alive at a point where the extinction of white (and verily, most other) skin colour occurs.

Anyway, I must run along now. Been a pleasure conversing with y'all. XD

Hehe, you know, I reckon this is one of the best OP's so far. Sure made me laugh.

Anyways, let's do a Pro v Con with this:

Pro
I will become a rarity! As you all know, demand and supply will end up allowing me to pick much hotter girls internationally.
Germany will be cured of its eternal pessimistic fatalism (it's contagious, you know ;) )
It'll be the ultimate settlement of the Holocaust-guilt issue.
No more skinhead Neonazis and NPD.

Contra
We'll have to say goodbye to German girls (http://www.bmfsfj.de/RedaktionBMFSFJ/Internetredaktion/Inhalte-statisch/Bilder/Ministerium-Geschichte-Merkel,property=bild,width=176,height=237.jpg), and instead have a look at non-German ones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg5kkGr0bbQ&mode=related&search=).
No more German musicians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFF5Jgup-EA), instead the children of immigrants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmkLsUexqMI).

Oh, well.


I was wondering about his "ugly" comment. I mean, it's not as though blonde German girls have the edge on hot looking. Consider how many blonde German girls win the Miss World or Miss Universe contest - a contest largely about looks.

http://www.liveindia.com/priyanka/wpaper5.html

She looks plenty hot to me...

I've a question for the Thread Starter.

Why do you gotta be so racist?

Who cares if the Muslim community of Germany are having more kids that the "Pure Aryans".

See, I'm not sure if anyone has ever told you this, but the Muslim Community is made up of Individuals, most of whom actually like the "Western Democratic Ideals" that you've been speaking of. So... now that you've been told that, do you have any other reason to be annoyed other than pure racism?

This is sad really. But we have to be optimistic and hope that trends will change...




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4793997.stm




http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7933/eurosiu1.jpg
So I guess if trends continue, there wont be any hot blond german chick stereotype by 2100, as the very Germany will be taken over by ugly people and real germans will constitude a slim minority...

People from "German" majority in 2067??

http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2005-03-17/muslim-crowd.jpg
http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Muslim_Crowd-WEB.gif
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40149000/jpg/_40149393_crowd-afp300.jpg

And what Germans want now (or at least 2000)?

http://www.migrationint.com.au/news/switzerland/dec_2000-10mn.asp

But some people are trying to change somethings. It's hard tho, because the culture is not child friendly. Blame some leftist circles who yell Nazis when their small minds are challanged by opposite views. Increasing birth rates is kinda controversial since it's what Hitler did. I guess these moronic people of some leftist circles might object to breathing since Hitler did that too...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4852040.stm



Oh oh, I think this tone sounds like an skin head tone (White Power), oh give it up, Europe's wealth is ever increasing even when its population is decreasing. All that means is that, all the spoils of richs goes to far less people in Europe and surely they get those richs from investing abroad (where there are population booms occuring, where infrastructure are needed, and so on). Therefore, Europe is still in good position in making wealth even with less population, but I guess that's not the problem, the problem comes when you can't accept non-whites walking around in the neighbourhood (racist).

I hold the honest beleif that the worlds hottest, and ugliest girls are both probably Chinese.

There are so many Chinese that statistics would make that quite possible.

Here's a non-Aryan hottie
http://www.liveindia.com/priyanka/pri1202054wlpapr1.jpg

Such a lamentable shame that people here actually applaud the loss of the ethnic Germans.
http://www.schildersmilies.de/schilder/paranoid.gif

Who's losing?

Sure, there are beautiful non-whites out there too, but none attract me, and frankly I do not see what the problem is with wanting more whites in the world.
The problem is not with wanting more whites (except it's irrational and letting yourself being ruled by irrationality is to reduce yourself to the status of an animal). The problem is with wanting fewer non-whites.
And with pretending you have any sort of right or justification for deciding what sort of people get to live in your environment.
You only get to decide where you live. If other people want to live there too - too fucking bad. Go somewhere else. It's a big planet, and you can set up your racially pure enclave on your property, but nowhere else. I'm telling you: quit complaining. No one cares to listen.

I can't wait for the day Europeans actually decide to adopt pro-natal policies...
...says the gay kid. You're talking the talk...but are you walking the walk?

What do we do? Nothing.
We? I'm sorry, aren't you South African?

The problem is not what you are saying, but the way you are saying it. You are a white supremacist and you know it, and try to manipulate people into thinking that you are not. You qualified non white people as ugly, and that is racist when it is done directly.

The problem is not what you are saying, but the way you are saying it. You are a white supremacist and you know it, and try to manipulate people into thinking that you are not. You qualified non white people as ugly, and that is racist when it is done directly.

Make sure Aelosia, that you notice the difference. I hate people for what they may believe, not for the color of their skin.

I have a real problem with white supremacists (or Muslim supremacists, or Christian supremacists).

Make sure Aelosia, that you notice the difference. I hate people for what they may believe, not for the color of their skin.

I have a real problem with white supremacists (or Muslim supremacists, or Christian supremacists).

The thing is, you come of like you think all Muslims are Muslim supremacists.

Oh, and THERE IS such a thing as Moderate Islam.

The thing is, you come of like you think all Muslims are Muslim supremacists.

Oh, and THERE IS such a thing as Moderate Islam.

I'm mainly concerned with militant Islam. Non-militants don't really bother me.

Oh, and THERE IS such a thing as Moderate Islam.

Call me when "moderates" officially reject the view of the world as Dar al-Harb and Dar al-Islam, and when you can "moderately" stone a woman to death.

Call me when "moderates" officially reject the view of the world as Dar al-Harb and Dar al-Islam, and when you can "moderately" stone a woman to death.

You do know most Muslims (in the West) don't beleive in that? It's a slim minority that is ruining their image?

And that you buy into it completely?

Make sure Aelosia, that you notice the difference. I hate people for what they may believe, not for the color of their skin.

I have a real problem with white supremacists (or Muslim supremacists, or Christian supremacists).

I was talking about Ny Nordland, not you.

You do know most Muslims (in the West) don't beleive in that? It's a slim minority that is ruining their image?

And that you buy into it completely?

No, I don't buy into it completely.

I'm waiting for the official announcement from moderate Muslims.

Like this one (which is apparently a dead website - guess it's not too popular).
http://www.secularislam.org/rights/declaration.htm

Let me know when CAIR makes an announcement like that.

I was talking about Ny Nordland, not you.

Same thing really...

I would think that the Germans posting in this thread are a heck of a lot more representative of Germany than an Oceanian.

Actually, as I said before, that australian site was reporting the results of polling of germans made by a german institude.

Same thing really...

Hardly. I hate people with certain beliefs. And could care less what they look like, or what country they're from.

Actually, as I said before, that australian site was reporting the results of polling of germans made by a german institude.

And you buy anything you read and everything the media says. I love you. Thanks to you I enjoy a lavish style of living.

Ah but that only pays attention to consecutivity, not relativity which is what you said. In comparison to 1, 0 is very far. By the above logic, 0 is close to 1,000,000 because 1,000,000 minus itself is equal to 0. The only way of measuring relativity is by fractions. 0 and infinity are miles away from any number. In incalculable. 0.00000001 is miles away from 0. But you're right, I am not talking about secondary school maths.

I dont think you are talking about any maths. If you want to talk about relativity, set the constant to the population of Germany, which is 82 million. 1 relative to 82 million isnt much different then 0 relative to 82 million. I also quoted a poll of Germans' attitudes to immigration. 54 million who wants tighter immigration ristrictions relative to 82 million is far greater than 1 relative to 82 million....

Gotta ask, what does it matter?

Not happy. Just perfectly indifferent, really. And it's not as if Germany - or, for that matter, Europe on the whole - was the only place where white skinned people live.



Do you seriously think that this is something that can be solved by spending money on it? Are you suggesting to try and bribe people to have kids? I've a feeling that policy will result in some amazing examples of parenting... and I seriously never would want to meet those kids.

Yes, goverment can pay for kindergardens, for example. Please read the 2nd article, as I said before. I'm sure even if we combine all family support measures, it'll still be cheaper then paying to Hartz IV immigrants.

I dont think you are talking about any maths. If you want to talk about relativity, set the constant to the population of Germany, which is 82 million. 1 relative to 82 million isnt much different then 0 relative to 82 million. I also quoted a poll of Germans' attitudes to immigration. 54 million who wants tighter immigration ristrictions relative to 82 million is far greater than 1 relative to 82 million....
Actually it is. Infinitely. You just don't get it do you? 1 to 82,000,000 is 1/82,000,000 of 82,000,000. 1 to zero is 1/0 an figure so small it is impossible. This is the point at which an exponential hits the x-axis. Never. Likewise, 1 to infinity is 1/infinity. What that means is that there is an infinite number of points between 1 and infinity, and an infinite number of points between 1 and 0. Thus it is in terms of relativity, no different.

Actually it is. Infinitely. You just don't get it do you? 1 to 82,000,000 is 1/82,000,000 of 82,000,000. 1 to zero is 1/0 an figure so small it is impossible. This is the point at which an exponential hits the x-axis. Never. Likewise, 1 to infinity is 1/infinity. What that means is that there is an infinite number of points between 1 and infinity, and an infinite number of points between 1 and 0. Thus it is in terms of relativity, no different.

There are infinite number of points between 2 and 3 as well if we are talking about real numbers...Same with 2 and 2.0000001. By your "logic", 2 and 2.000000001 are very different :rolleyes:
And 1/0 isnt 1 to 0, it is 1 over 0...

OH NOES!!!1!!111! Damn those evil racists wanting to preserve the original ethnicity of a nation!!!! They must be like evil native Americans!!! And they use liberal in its correct sense!!! Such evil intelligence!!!!

If the birth rate is dwindling(cant be as bad as russia tho)then the only answer IS immigration, unless you want germany to die out as a country.
Why preserve the origional ethnicity of a nation?If you do everyone ends up being inbred/stupid/crosseyed/related to each other.I have personally found that some of gthe best looking and healthiest people I have ever met have been mixed'race'.My ex was half chinese half greek, very beautiful and very clever.My current partner is helf welsh half malaysian, and he is great looking, healthy and clever, so ya boo sucks to preserving 'racial integrity'.
If you end up only breeding with people of your own 'race' your whole country will end up being crosseyed ,low iq ,inbreds.
Anyway, I dont believe it to be possible for a person to be 'racially pure',you will find that most europeans especially are 'mongrels',for example, I am spanish/Italian/Irish/Welsh/english and native american,and you will probably find that most europeans have the same story!

Oh, good heavens, its not like 80 million people will vanish because there's 20,000 less in this year as compared to previous years. :rolleyes:

Yet another ignorant post from you. The problem isnt 20,000. It is the fact that there are 144,000 more deaths than births in Germany in last year. And the births keep coming down while deaths increases (due to older population). It's a trend you have failed to understand so far...

There are infinite number of points between 2 and 3 as well if we are talking about real numbers...Same with 2 and 2.0000001. By your "logic", 2 and 2.000000001 are very different :rolleyes:
And 1/0 isnt 1 to 0, it is 1 over 0...

All that math just turned me off...:mp5:

All that math just turned me off...:mp5:

Awww....Ok then, here is a pic of "There she goes...."


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1584/beergirl3dn6.jpg

Basically, what I'm discussing in this thread is that girls like her will be a very slim majority in very Germany by the end of this century or sooner, if current trends continue...

Awww....Ok then, here is a pic of "There she goes...."


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1584/beergirl3dn6.jpg

Basically, what I'm discussing in this thread is that girls like her will be a very slim majority in very Germany by the end of this century or sooner, if current trends continue...

And....


So what, exactly? The Aryan Race isn't going to die off, so don't worry your little blonde head, NN.

Here's a non-Aryan hottie
http://www.liveindia.com/priyanka/pri1202054wlpapr1.jpg

Ok, I'm not going to tell my personal opinion about her or likes of her since some of my personal sense of aesthetics has worked up so many people...If you like these sorta girls, then it's fine. The point is she and the ones liker her are already very numerous and increasing. Meanwhile:

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5975/137816b00391006426191199hip1.jpg

Girls like here are few, especially relative to world population, and already decreasing. That's the point.

Yes, goverment can pay for kindergardens, for example. Please read the 2nd article, as I said before. I'm sure even if we combine all family support measures, it'll still be cheaper then paying to Hartz IV immigrants.

It's not going to make people who don't want kids want to have kids, though.

And....


So what, exactly? The Aryan Race isn't going to die off, so don't worry your little blonde head, NN.

Skiny Skiny Skiny...Native Americans didnt die as well but look how well they turned out as a marginal minority in North America. And North America is a western democracy, unlike what might become of a majority muslim Germany....

Maybe I'm repeating someone, but:

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/music002.gif

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1584/beergirl3dn6.jpg

Basically, what I'm discussing in this thread is that girls like her will be a very slim majority in very Germany by the end of this century or sooner, if current trends continue...


Oh, thank goodness! I can't wait for that.....

It's not going to make people who don't want kids want to have kids, though.

Why are you so against suggestions which might raise the birthrate? You say you are indifferent but this hostility is certainly a choice, isnt it?

Maybe I'm repeating someone, but:

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/music002.gif

Nah...Welcome Gravlen, long time no see....

There are infinite number of points between 2 and 3 as well if we are talking about real numbers...Same with 2 and 2.0000001. By your "logic", 2 and 2.000000001 are very different :rolleyes:
And 1/0 isnt 1 to 0, it is 1 over 0...
*sigh* the differnece between 2.000000001 and 2 isn't impossible, though. You don't seem to be doing well with numbers. What the maths is saying is that 0=nothing, 1 is equal to something, and infinity is equal to everything. The difference between something and nothing is impossibly different to the difference between something and something. Again in numbers 1/0 is impossible. 1/any number is possible. 1/infinity is impossible. Are you getting it? Look, if this is about your dignity, just don't reply. This post will surely be swalloed by the thread in no time. I'm growing tired of re-explaining the theory everytime you voice your supposed confusion.

This is the dullest thread ever. This guy is criticizing demographics and throwing up some racist comments just because he wants to keep dating blondes with blue eyes. Get dye and contact lenses.

My last post here. Just think that if that blonde people do not want to breed and reproduce anymore, then something must be wrong with them now.

Oh, thank goodness! I can't wait for that.....

There's another "choice". Or is it the clothes or maybe something feminist about women selling beers?

Why are you so against suggestions which might raise the birthrate? You say you are indifferent but this hostility is certainly a choice, isnt it?

I'm not hostile towards your attempts to convince German women of the joys of childbirth and -raising. I'm just telling you, if they don't want kids, they don't want kids.
It's got little to nothing to do with their financial situation. It's a choice.

There's another "choice". Or is it the clothes or maybe something feminist about women selling beers?

*roflmao
I'm from Bavaria, I used to sell beer as a holiday job ever since I was 14. There's no feminist reason.
The clothes, yes. Those sort of clothes are worn because your employer forces you, or because you're a braindead inbred Schluchtenscheisser. For no other reason.

And I can tell you straight away that she's studying BWL, loves Diddl-Maeuse and thinks Ruediger Hoffmann's funny.... :headbang:

*sigh* the differnece between 2.000000001 and 2 isn't impossible, though.


Neither the difference between 0 and 1 or 1 and 0. It's basic 4 opertation. LOL


You don't seem to be doing well with numbers. What the maths is saying is that 0=nothing, 1 is equal to something, and infinity is equal to everything. The difference between something and nothing is impossibly different to the difference between something and something.


You seem to be confusing difference with division. And you are telling me I dont do well with numbets? HAHAHA


Again in numbers 1/0 is impossible. 1/any number is possible. 1/infinity is impossible. Are you getting it? Look, if this is about your dignity, just don't reply. This post will surely be swalloed by the thread in no time. I'm growing tired of re-explaining the theory everytime you voice your supposed confusion.


1/0 means division, not difference and yes it is undifined. However you were talking about relative values, not rules of division. So the theory you keep explaining is that 1 person's opinion about the future of Germany (relative to 82 million germans) is so much more important then the opinion of a 0 German (relative to 82 million germans) because 1 is divisible and numbers being devided into 0 are not? Keep in mind that 0=nothing/number is divisible. LOL. No it's not about my dignity, it's just that you are being silly and amusing...

*roflmao
I'm from Bavaria, I used to sell beer as a holiday job ever since I was 14. There's no feminist reason.
The clothes, yes. Those sort of clothes are worn because your employer forces you, or because you're a braindead inbred Schluchtenscheisser. For no other reason.

And I can tell you straight away that she's studying BWL, loves Diddl-Maeuse and thinks Ruediger Hoffmann's funny.... :headbang:

Tsk tsk tsk...member of leftist crowd stereotyping....Tsk tsk tsk...

The thing is, you come of like you think all Muslims are Muslim supremacists.

Oh, and THERE IS such a thing as Moderate Islam.

Believe it or not,I dont believe DK thinks all muslims are like this.It may seem like it at first, but DK knows the value of inteligent debate, and tho we dont always agree,I dont think DK would deny the precence of moderate islam.

Believe it or not,I dont believe DK thinks all muslims are like this.It may seem like it at first, but DK knows the value of inteligent debate, and tho we dont always agree,I dont think DK would deny the precence of moderate islam.

No, I don't believe all Muslims are militant fundamentalists.

I do believe that "moderate" Islam is not doing enough to reform the religion as Christianity was during the Reformation.

I also believe that we should always consider all possible solutions to a problem, no matter how horrifying or morally repugnant we may find them. Sure, you can always eliminate them from consideration, but not until they've been addressed from a view to whether or not they would actually provide any benefit.

Neither the difference between 0 and 1 or 1 and 0. It's basic 4 opertation. LOL
You seem to be confusing difference with division. And you are telling me I dont do well with numbets? HAHAHA
1/0 means division, not difference and yes it is undifined. However you were talking about relative values, not rules of division. So the theory you keep explaining is that 1 person's opinion about the future of Germany (relative to 82 million germans) is so much more important then the opinion of a 0 German (relative to 82 million germans) because 1 is divisible and numbers being devided into 0 are not? Keep in mind that 0=nothing/number is divisible. LOL. No it's not about my dignity, it's just that you are being silly and amusing...
Ok so we're back at the difference between mathematical diference (-) and relative difference as expressed as a fraction. That is the difference between the difference. Just to remind you this has been clarified at least twice already (once in the first post). The only real way to demonstrate difference with respect to relativity is through the use of fractions, as sole integers are meaningless alone (On an infinite scale). So, the difference between the difference of 2 and 4 and 200 and 400 is the same in respect to relativity, even though there are hundreds of integers of difference between the two examples in actuality. In both examples, the first number is half of the second number, so they are comparitively the same distance apart. Now the thing is that the difference between 1 and 0 in respect to any other difference (other than that of 1 to infinity) is incomparabel, because the fraction obtained from the difference between 1 and 0 is impossible and thus impossible. This is the mathematical expression of the difference between nothing and something. The above is also true of infinity. Thats everything. if you continue to work with straight integers you will have admitted your incomprehension of the worthlessness of sole values on an infinite scale. They need a counter point if you are to compare them.


*sigh* And I hate maths. Why am I doing this to myself. He doesn't care...

Awww....Ok then, here is a pic of "There she goes...."


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1584/beergirl3dn6.jpg

Basically, what I'm discussing in this thread is that girls like her will be a very slim majority in very Germany by the end of this century or sooner, if current trends continue...

she is ugly!I have no problem with blondes, or german blonds, I have seen some pritty ones, but she is UGLY. At least get some taste before you comlain about the lack of girls like her.....

Ok, I'm not going to tell my personal opinion about her or likes of her since some of my personal sense of aesthetics has worked up so many people...If you like these sorta girls, then it's fine. The point is she and the ones liker her are already very numerous and increasing. Meanwhile:

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5975/137816b00391006426191199hip1.jpg

Girls like here are few, especially relative to world population, and already decreasing. That's the point.

not pritty either....:(

This one is far hotter than any of the Nordic chicks:
http://www.drunkstunts.com/babes/keyra_agustina_perfect_ass/images/keyra_agustina_01_002.jpg

No, I don't believe all Muslims are militant fundamentalists.

I do believe that "moderate" Islam is not doing enough to reform the religion as Christianity was during the Reformation.

I also believe that we should always consider all possible solutions to a problem, no matter how horrifying or morally repugnant we may find them. Sure, you can always eliminate them from consideration, but not until they've been addressed from a view to whether or not they would actually provide any benefit.

that is completly fine, you are entitled to your opinion.The fact is,you dont like islam very much(understatement?)but you dont hate muslims for the colour of their skin, because theyre brown ect.You disagree with their belief system, just like I disagree with much of christianity, but it doesnt mean I hate all white anglo saxon protestants.,or hat you hate arabs!

that is completly fine, you are entitled to your opinion.The fact is,you dont like islam very much(understatement?)but you dont hate muslims for the colour of their skin, because theyre brown ect.You disagree with their belief system, just like I disagree with much of christianity, but it doesnt mean I hate all white anglo saxon protestants.,or hat you hate arabs!

Someone on this forum actually understands what I'm saying!

Skiny Skiny Skiny...Native Americans didnt die as well but look how well they turned out as a marginal minority in North America. And North America is a western democracy, unlike what might become of a majority muslim Germany....

Mein Gott!

Der Untermenschen must be stopped at any cost! Begin the breeding programs. The Aryan Race must never be allowed to die! To arms, brothers - let us stop the Slavi...Muslim hordes!

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5975/137816b00391006426191199hip1.jpg

Girls like here are few, especially relative to world population, and already decreasing. That's the point.

There are plenty of girls like that here in the USA.

Trouble for you is, there's also a lot of Non-Whites in the US and your sense of compassion and tolerance would be sorely tested in coming here.

Awww....Ok then, here is a pic of "There she goes...."


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1584/beergirl3dn6.jpg

Basically, what I'm discussing in this thread is that girls like her will be a very slim majority in very Germany by the end of this century or sooner, if current trends continue...
Yeah man, this girl isn't too flash.

Yeah man, this girl isn't too flash.

She probably doesn't swallow, either.

She probably doesn't swallow, either.
The abbrieviations hold no meaning anymore, I laughed out loud, DK my friend. That was not bad at all. :D

Someone on this forum actually understands what I'm saying!

indeed I do,I actually respect you for being honest and not being racict, as some that dislike islam are.I dont agree that moderate muslims arent speaking up, but hell, thats free speach. if you dont say something then it cant be debated or refuted.Unlike NN,you debate and are reasonable,I sdont like the fact that he uses nation states as his own personal propaganda against non germanics tool, but if we dont hear it, we cant slam it down!

Girls like here are few, especially relative to world population, and already decreasing. That's the point.That's probably better that way, since considering your tendencies to lurk on neo-nazi sites and the tricolor on her military looking hat being the one from the 2nd and 2rd Reich, she's might just be a neo-nazi herself.

Awww....Ok then, here is a pic of "There she goes...."


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1584/beergirl3dn6.jpg

Basically, what I'm discussing in this thread is that girls like her will be a very slim majority in very Germany by the end of this century or sooner, if current trends continue...Ur.. she looks Bavarian to me, which, by definition, would make her as Un-German as it gets.

Ur.. she looks Bavarian to me, which, by definition, would make her as Un-German as it gets.

ROFL!

Yet another ignorant post from you. The problem isnt 20,000. It is the fact that there are 144,000 more deaths than births in Germany in last year. And the births keep coming down while deaths increases (due to older population). It's a trend you have failed to understand so far...No, my dear, its a trend I do not cower in fear of, as it A) won't lead to the "extinction of German blood, oh noes!" in my lifetime, B) is a natural part of evolution. The funny thing is, there are probably other "pure races" going extinct, only that you don't seem to notice because they aren't white.

Ur.. she looks Bavarian to me, which, by definition, would make her as Un-German as it gets.

Especially with that atrocious accent you get down there...

Especially with that atrocious accent you get down there...Accent? Bavarian is so different it gets qualified as dialect, and the only reason it isn't a language is because it lacks an Army and a Navy to enforce it. :D

Accent? Bavarian is so different it gets qualified as dialect, and the only reason it isn't a language is because it lacks an Army and a Navy to enforce it. :D

Whenever I was in Schwabenland, I had to cover my ears when young girls spoke - it was like a badly tuned violin.

I had thought that the US was the only country with ridiculous accents and dialects - turns out I was wrong.

I'm not a native German, and I could hear the difference.

I do believe that "moderate" Islam is not doing enough to reform the religion as Christianity was during the Reformation.

Just to be an apologist asshole:

http://www.usembassyjakarta.org/lawmaker.html
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/10/17/195606.shtml
http://www.int-review.org/terr42a.html
http://www.islamfortoday.com/qaradawi02.htm

Enjoy!;)

[QUOTE=Deep Kimchi;11617210]
I do believe that "moderate" Islam is not doing enough to reform the religion as Christianity was during the Reformation.
QUOTE]
Just to be an apologist asshole:

http://www.usembassyjakarta.org/lawmaker.html
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/10/17/195606.shtml
http://www.int-review.org/terr42a.html
http://www.islamfortoday.com/qaradawi02.htm

Enjoy!;)

Call me when they've subdued the wahhab just like the Church "pacified" the Cathars.

Ok so we're back at the difference between mathematical diference (-) and relative difference as expressed as a fraction. That is the difference between the difference. Just to remind you this has been clarified at least twice already (once in the first post). The only real way to demonstrate difference with respect to relativity is through the use of fractions, as sole integers are meaningless alone (On an infinite scale). So, the difference between the difference of 2 and 4 and 200 and 400 is the same in respect to relativity, even though there are hundreds of integers of difference between the two examples in actuality. In both examples, the first number is half of the second number, so they are comparitively the same distance apart. Now the thing is that the difference between 1 and 0 in respect to any other difference (other than that of 1 to infinity) is incomparabel, because the fraction obtained from the difference between 1 and 0 is impossible and thus impossible. This is the mathematical expression of the difference between nothing and something. The above is also true of infinity. Thats everything. if you continue to work with straight integers you will have admitted your incomprehension of the worthlessness of sole values on an infinite scale. They need a counter point if you are to compare them.


*sigh* And I hate maths. Why am I doing this to myself. He doesn't care...


I'm sorry to say this but your maths isnt very good and it isnt surprising that you hate it. You messed up whole concepts.
Lets begin with your example: 2,4 and 200,400. You say that the first number is half of the second and you find this like: 2/4 and 200/400. That's of course correct, since both are same fractions. (i.e: multiples of 1/2). This doesnt tell you anything about the "relative difference" as you put it. And they are NOT "comparitively the same distance apart". The second distance is JUST a multiple of the first difference, not "comparitively same". By your "logic", the difference between the difference of 1,2 and 1 quadtrillion,2 quadtrillion should be the same in respect to relativity. Now do you see how stupid you sound?
Besides, even by your "logic", using your concept was unneccessary even in the original example since population of countries arent have to be shown as real numbers but natural numbers are enough. And besides, even by your "logic", if you want to compare 1 and 0, you dont have to 0/1, you could have used 1/0....

That's probably better that way, since considering your tendencies to lurk on neo-nazi sites and the tricolor on her military looking hat being the one from the 2nd and 2rd Reich, she's might just be a neo-nazi herself.

:rolleyes:

That's the hat of her Russ uniform... :rolleyes:

Russ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ

The last thing my eastern neighbours need is the grandchild of Vidkun Quisling to tell them what to do. Their problems are not your problems, like they even have a "skin colour" problem. And we need no little white-pride enthusiasts telling us who and who we shouldn't allow in our country.

I'd like 200 Arabs rather than the grandchild of Quisling. Maybe we could make a trade, you can have our white-pride psychos.

Well, it's pretty obvious to me that the more you fuck, the more you get pregnant. Even with birth control.

I guess we can conclude two things:

1. Neo-Nazis don't like to fuck.
2. The women use birth control, which means that they are disloyal to the cause in the extreme.
3. The women don't like being gangbanged by skinheads in an eternal quest to constantly remain pregnant.
4. This means that the neo-Nazi men beat off a lot, to fantasies of gangbanging blonde Nazi women, in order to impregnate them.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Well, it's pretty obvious to me that the more you fuck, the more you get pregnant. Even with birth control.

I guess we can conclude two things:

1. Neo-Nazis don't like to fuck.
2. The women use birth control, which means that they are disloyal to the cause in the extreme.
3. The women don't like being gangbanged by skinheads in an eternal quest to constantly remain pregnant.
4. This means that the neo-Nazi men beat off a lot, to fantasies of gangbanging blonde Nazi women, in order to impregnate them.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

I think you nailed down their central problem *lol

I think you nailed down their central problem *lol

That, and I can't count the number of points correctly...

Just lift the entire world to higher living standards and stop Bush's idiotic have-no-sex campaign in Africa. Improve the distribution and reduce the costs of condoms.

Bashing immigrants doesn't really help them integrate.

Well, it's pretty obvious to me that the more you fuck, the more you get pregnant. Even with birth control.

I guess we can conclude two things:

1. Neo-Nazis don't like to fuck.
2. The women use birth control, which means that they are disloyal to the cause in the extreme.
3. The women don't like being gangbanged by skinheads in an eternal quest to constantly remain pregnant.
4. This means that the neo-Nazi men beat off a lot, to fantasies of gangbanging blonde Nazi women, in order to impregnate them.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Yeah makes me wonder why you keep posting stupid posts, especially when some of those causes are explained at the very op...

Germans are hawt.

Yeah makes me wonder why you keep posting stupid posts, especially when some of those causes are explained at the very op...

The OP doesn't explain anything about low birth rates.

It is only an admission that they don't fuck, and don't have babies.

It's an admission that unless they get paid to fuck and have babies, they won't. And work is more important than fucking and having babies.

Well, I don't see any government programs to make non-Nazis get out there and pump out children. They do it for fun, evidently.

Ergo, Nazis are not fun in the sack. You've posted the evidence that proves it.

The OP doesn't explain anything about low birth rates.


It's clear that you cant read so I wont bother to answer your even more sillier points.


It is only an admission that they don't fuck, and don't have babies.

It's an admission that unless they get paid to fuck and have babies, they won't. And work is more important than fucking and having babies.

Well, I don't see any government programs to make non-Nazis get out there and pump out children. They do it for fun, evidently.

Ergo, Nazis are not fun in the sack. You've posted the evidence that proves it.

It's clear that you cant read so I wont bother to answer your even more sillier points.

Amazing... I'm still amused by the fact that for some reason, you never seem to be able to respond to anybody who disagrees with you by even trying to form an argument, but resort to feeble attempts to dismiss their arguments by personal insults.

Interesting. So the Germans are a "pure" race? Aren't most people of mix these days.

To say there go the Germans suggests they are a subspecies.

Even if "Germans" go extinct. So what? Humanity continues.

I would offer myself for breeding but I am not a German. :p

I'm not xenophobic though. I'm totally accepting towards swedes or danes or icelanders or finnish or german or dutch or flemish...

Conformity-filia?

Amazing... I'm still amused by the fact that for some reason, you never seem to be able to respond to anybody who disagrees with you by even trying to form an argument, but resort to feeble attempts to dismiss their arguments by personal insults.

What he really needs to do is get out there and impregnate some more blonde haired, blue eyed, Nordic women.

And good luck with that!

What he really needs to do is get out there and impregnate some more blonde haired, blue eyed, Nordic women.

And good luck with that!

You are assuming is from Norway.

I kind of suspect he is not.

You are assuming is from Norway.

I kind of suspect he is not.

You think he's in Ankara and is just having us on? That would somehow explain his obsession with blond hair and blue eyes... :D

You are assuming is from Norway.

I kind of suspect he is not.

I was assuming that he was from Iran.

I was assuming that he was from Iran.
Then he'd be the only Iranian person alive I'd actually do...

He is Norwegian though. :)

You think he's in Ankara and is just having us on? That would somehow explain his obsession with blond hair and blue eyes... :D

You got me...How did you know? Did you also know I'm actually 14?

Then he'd be the only Iranian person alive I'd actually do...

He is Norwegian though. :)

I guess the simultaneous translation wasnt enough in that old thread...They'll probably want cam2cam next...

Interesting. So the Germans are a "pure" race?
Hehe, yeah, the Germans of all people. Who had no central government, no actual borders, no allegiances, no cultural identity and no fixed geographical area during most of their history.

Unless of course you wanna talk the descendants of the orginal Germanic tribes, but then everyone is German and the whole thing is no fun anymore. :(

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,685390,00.jpg
Or is it?

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434760,00.html

http://www.schildersmilies.de/noschild/laughoutloud.gif

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*schnipp schnapp*
Or is it?

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434760,00.html

http://www.schildersmilies.de/noschild/laughoutloud.gif
Hehehehehehahahahaha

Oh, how drole. :D

Hehe, yeah, the Germans of all people. Who had no central government, no actual borders, no allegiances, no cultural identity and no fixed geographical area during most of their history.

Unless of course you wanna talk the descendants of the orginal Germanic tribes, but then everyone is German and the whole thing is no fun anymore. :(

Who said Germans are a pure race?