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I found one of these in the sand while fishing this morning (I'm in Connecticut, in case you're wondering).

What should be done with it?

http://www.reclaimtheswastika.com/images/postcard_03_s.jpg

This image is from www.reclaimtheswastika.com, but I'm not entirely sure that this is on the up-and-up. Thoughts?

Give it to a local historical society to look at, see if it has any historical value.


EDIT:Oh and it may be against the rules to have a picture of a swastika.

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What?
I guess it's okay because it's the good kind of swastika.

what did you actually find? what is it made of, how big is it, where do you think it came from?

without details how can we have an opinion?

I found one of these in the sand while fishing this morning (I'm in Connecticut, in case you're wondering).

What should be done with it?

http://www.reclaimtheswastika.com/images/postcard_03_s.jpg

This image is from www.reclaimtheswastika.com, but I'm not entirely sure that this is on the up-and-up. Thoughts?

Try educating yourself and others, they are not using it as the racist nazi symbol but trying to remind others of it origional useage.

<edit: Didn't see part of you post. What makes you think it's NOT on the up and up?>

what did you actually find? what is it made of, how big is it, where do you think it came from?

without details how can we have an opinion?

It's a clear-plastic mylar thing, as if it was attached a postcard or 3"x5" index card.
Most of the (backing) paper is worn away, and so there is nothing I can make out on it other than the front image. I have no idea how old it is, nor where it came from.

I say you keep it quite an interesting find that might fetch a few £££ should you need the money

And aren’t good swastikas suppose to be from Tibet how did it get to the U.S:confused:

I say you keep it quite an interesting find that might fetch a few £££ should you need the money

And aren’t good swastikas suppose to be from Tibet how did it get to the U.S:confused:

Yeah, but why is it in English?

Why are you kicking off about this thing that you found?
It shows a swastika, yes, but not a Nazi swastika. If you look at the object, it shows the swastika at right angles, in a square as opposed to a diamond. The diamond swastika is the Nazi one, the square one is an ancient Hindu and Buddhist symbol of peace and prosperity. It's use during the 1930's and 40's by the Nazi regime of Germany has rendered it's former meaning forgotten. Don't destroy it as a symbol of evil; but don't keep it either, unless you really want to. It's no big deal, you're just overreacting. Just throw it in the bin. And chill out.

It's a clear-plastic mylar thing, as if it was attached a postcard or 3"x5" index card.
Most of the (backing) paper is worn away, and so there is nothing I can make out on it other than the front image. I have no idea how old it is, nor where it came from.

if you find the image compelling, keep it. otherwise toss it in the trash, it has no other value.

I say you keep it quite an interesting find that might fetch a few £££ should you need the money

And aren’t good swastikas suppose to be from Tibet how did it get to the U.S:confused:

Also used by certain Native American tribes and a few other cultures . . .

Try educating yourself and others, they are not using it as the racist nazi symbol but trying to remind others of it origional useage.

<edit: Didn't see part of you post. What makes you think it's NOT on the up and up?>

I don't know, it's just that with all the skinhead shennanigans, I'm wondering if it isn't some front to make the swastika non-taboo in the public mindset.

Sure, I know that it is an ancient symbol that has existed around the world (some American Indian tribes used it, as do actual Indians, Finns, etc). But somehow it just doesn't seem like something that someone would produce (in English!) unless they had fascist tendencies.

I don't know, it's just that with all the skinhead shennanigans, I'm wondering if it isn't some front to make the swastika non-taboo in the public mindset.

Sure, I know that it is an ancient symbol that has existed around the world (some American Indian tribes used it, as do actual Indians, Finns, etc). But somehow it just doesn't seem like something that someone would produce (in English!) unless they had fascist tendencies.

Why wouldn't a group want to reclaim the symbols origional meaning from the racist assholes?

Why are you kicking off about this thing that you found?
It shows a swastika, yes, but not a Nazi swastika. If you look at the object, it shows the swastika at right angles, in a square as opposed to a diamond. The diamond swastika is the Nazi one, the square one is an ancient Hindu and Buddhist symbol of peace and prosperity. It's use during the 1930's and 40's by the Nazi regime of Germany has rendered it's former meaning forgotten. Don't destroy it as a symbol of evil; but don't keep it either, unless you really want to. It's no big deal, you're just overreacting. Just throw it in the bin. And chill out.

Yeah, maybe I've been drinking too much coffee or something, but it just weirded me out to find it.

Also used by certain Native American tribes and a few other cultures . . .

that seems a bit odd if you ask me...

Why wouldn't a group want to reclaim the symbols origional meaning from the racist assholes?

Why bother? Most people these days can hardly be bothered to cook, much less start up a movement about an old symbol.

It appears that they have no intent to spread Nazism or anything so there is no need to destroy, but neither is there a need to promote it, so do what you want with it.

that seems a bit odd if you ask me...

Why? It's an old solar symbol, it was used by a lot of cultures before Hittler corrupted it.

that seems a bit odd if you ask me...
Only to those who don't know how ancient that symbol is.

Hey, before A.H. used it for his purposes it was widely spread in use. Take this for example:

http://www.muchogusto.net/especiales/Coca-Cola/nazi_coke.jpg

(I just realized that this pic is also to be found on the webpage linked to above...)

Isn't it the Indian symbol of peace and luck? I mean, if it's not a nazi symbol, you don't have to destroy it...

Look at it funny, shrug and toss it over your shoulder. Left shoulder preferably, maybe it's like salt and will bring you good luck when you do that.

Does it mean anything to you? Do you consider it a lucky symbol for you? Does it appeal for you in any way?

If you consider the symbol lucky and appealing to you, then perhaps you ought to consider keeping it, or better yet, replacing it with something a little less beaten up. On the other hand, if it is just a curiosity because of the whole nazi swastika vs. Tibetan good luck charm thing, then it's interesting, but who really gives a shit about tibetan good luck charms?

Keep it, or give it to some historic clb thing.

Eat it. Preferably with a side serving of KFC.

Why? It's an old solar symbol, it was used by a lot of cultures before Hittler corrupted it.

I was commenting on the fact that its appeared in cultures that have had no influence on each other since the last ice age like pyramids

Does it mean anything to you? Do you consider it a lucky symbol for you? Does it appeal for you in any way?

If you consider the symbol lucky and appealing to you, then perhaps you ought to consider keeping it, or better yet, replacing it with something a little less beaten up. On the other hand, if it is just a curiosity because of the whole nazi swastika vs. Tibetan good luck charm thing, then it's interesting, but who really gives a shit about tibetan good luck charms?

Yes, you're right...But...I don't know...It's not EXACTLY the same symbol...

I found one of these in the sand while fishing this morning (I'm in Connecticut, in case you're wondering).

What should be done with it?

http://www.reclaimtheswastika.com/images/postcard_03_s.jpg

This image is from www.reclaimtheswastika.com, but I'm not entirely sure that this is on the up-and-up. Thoughts?
That is awesome!

That's just hilarious. I want one.

ZOMG American Indians use it and use it!
They are part of the Mexican/German conspiracy of WWI!
OMG an actual American Division of WWI had the Swastika as it's symbol!
OH MY DOG!, an American pilot of WWI had a Swastika painted on his plane!
OMGWTFBBQ, America started NAZIISM!!!

Only to those who don't know how ancient that symbol is.

Hey, before A.H. used it for his purposes it was widely spread in use. Take this for example:

http://www.muchogusto.net/especiales/Coca-Cola/nazi_coke.jpg

(I just realized that this pic is also to be found on the webpage linked to above...)
There was that crap movie set in the 1950's in Germany, about a Coca Cola Factory and something about inflation, and marriage...

I say you keep it quite an interesting find that might fetch a few £££ should you need the money

And aren’t good swastikas suppose to be from Tibet how did it get to the U.S:confused:

The swastika, or "broken cross" was a pagan symbol representing the Four Winds.

I noticed when I was in Japan recently, that the swastika is quite common place. It's frequently used on maps to indicate shrines or temples, and it's often found on the shrines themselves.

I took this photo while I was over there.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/Boonytopia/DSC01832.jpg

I noticed when I was in Japan recently, that the swastika is quite common place. It's frequently used on maps to indicate shrines or temples, and it's often found on the shrines themselves.

I took this photo while I was over there.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/Boonytopia/DSC01832.jpg
That looks like a Crappy Wannabe photoshop job done in paint!:p

That looks like a Crappy Wannabe photoshop job done in paint!:p

I'm offended that you would so insult my photography skills! ;)

It was actually a little shrine in a back street in Kyoto.