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Ever since the game have been invented it's been called Football or American Football when not in the USA, Canada or any other country that doesn't play this game. However, Soccer is also called football, and that causes confusion between the American Football country and the Soccer country. So, should American Football be changed to Grid Iron Ball, or simply Grid Iron? I would actually support this, mainly because it just sounds cooler!

Take off the padding, quit stopping the game for a chat every five minutes, and call it rugby. :p

I've always sort of liked the term Grid Iron.

Take off the padding, quit stopping the game for a chat every five minutes, and call it rugby. :p

Eh, this game is more about plays than actual force.

No, calling football football is one of our most sacred traditions. I say that we just continue doing what we have traditionally done and just ignore soccer=football countries. Football is perhaps not the best name for the game but there is no reason to change the name for the hell of it.

No matter who changes things, American Football will be (American) Football, just like Pluto will always be a planet.

The "Mans" can change all the things they want. It doesn't mean the populence will accept them.

No matter who changes things, American Football will be (American) Football, just like Pluto will always be a planet.

The "Mans" can change all the things they want. It doesn't mean the populence will accept them.

the europeans will just have to deal with it...

they should call soccer "kickball" or something...

the europeans will just have to deal with it...

they should call soccer "kickball" or something...

But what about the game kick ball?!

But what about the game kick ball?!


Kickball can STFU.

But what about the game kick ball?!

they can call it, "xtreme kick ball"...

Kickball can STFU.

thats the spirit!

It would be awesome to hear Madden says "It's time to play some Grid Iron!"

Dudes, "grid iron" sounds like something I would cook a waffle on.

they can call it, "xtreme kick ball"...

Why did I just picture alot of injured players and alot of balls to the groin?

The way I see it Grid Iron is just a crapper version of the already crap sport Rugby, which in itself is just a crap version of the least crap sport, soccer. Seeing as all sports are crap, but soccer is the least crap of the teams sports involving grown men chasing a ball on a patch of grass while other men mosh to the phenomenon, all other such sports should fold to them. I'll do up a hierachy of crapness in sports, for those of you who cannot innately tall, at a later date.

Eh I've watched Rugby before and it just seems like the game is based on who can knock down each other the best and fastest. However American football or Grid Iron is more about who can call the right plays at the right time.

No matter who changes things, American Football will be (American) Football, just like Pluto will always be a planet.

uh... pluto aint a planet, it was proven to small.

the europeans will just have to deal with it...

they should call soccer "kickball" or something...


Let's see:

Basketball - you put the ball in the basket.
Volleyball - you volley the ball
Handball - you throw and catch the ball with your hands
Dodgeball - you dodge the ball
Football - you use your foot (feet if you are good) to control, pass and shoot a ball (soccer)

Now that seems to indicate that Grid Iron should be called something like Run, Catch and Throw ball. However as the fans here seem to be emphasising the strategic aspect of the game - how about stratoball?

Ever since the game have been invented it's been called Football or American Football when not in the USA, Canada or any other country that doesn't play this game. However, Soccer is also called football, and that causes confusion between the American Football country and the Soccer country. So, should American Football be changed to Grid Iron Ball, or simply Grid Iron? I would actually support this, mainly because it just sounds cooler!
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PIG SKIN!!!

uh... pluto aint a planet, it was proven to small.
You're spelling was proven too crap!

uh... pluto aint a planet, it was proven to small.

There's no way I'm changing what I call football(American football) or Pluto just because some nerdy people had an argument. Football is football. Pluto is a planet. If we changed what we call something all because some nerds told us to, then we wouldn't have any true language that has consistency.

So, to all you "Pluto is not a planet. Football should be called pussy rugby or strategic rugby. Wah. Wah. Wah" nerds out there, get a life. I have one. Having one is fun.

Let's see:

Basketball - you put the ball in the basket.
Volleyball - you volley the ball
Handball - you throw and catch the ball with your hands
Dodgeball - you dodge the ball
Football - you use your foot (feet if you are good) to control, pass and shoot a ball (soccer)

Now that seems to indicate that Grid Iron should be called something like Run, Catch and Throw ball. However as the fans here seem to be emphasising the strategic aspect of the game - how about stratoball?

Nah, Stratoball doesn't have a ring to it like Grid Iron. Plus just think of all of the commerical options!

See, this is one of those times where I am glad to be an evil arrogant American. Because we call things whatever the hell we want. We call Sparkling white wine made in New York Champagne, even though it's not. And we call our football Football, and your football Soccer. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Why? Because we got the bombs, that's why.

See, this is one of those times where I am glad to be an evil arrogant American. Because we call things whatever the hell we want. We call Sparkling white wine made in New York Champagne, even though it's not. And we call our football Football, and your football Soccer. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Why? Because we got the bombs, that's why.


But then we can call it USian Football, can't we. :p

(and there's not a damned thing you can do about that.)

Let's see:

Basketball - you put the ball in the basket.
Volleyball - you volley the ball
Handball - you throw and catch the ball with your hands
Dodgeball - you dodge the ball
Football - you use your foot (feet if you are good) to control, pass and shoot a ball (soccer)

Now that seems to indicate that Grid Iron should be called something like Run, Catch and Throw ball. However as the fans here seem to be emphasising the strategic aspect of the game - how about stratoball?

Only if rugby becomes tactiball.

But then we can call it USian Football, can't we. :p

(and there1s not a damned thing you can do about that.)

True, but I could put you on my ignore list for deliberately insulting me, since you know I take offence to that term. But I won't, because I have come to realize you Euro's take soccer/footy as seriously as Americans take Football, so insults are expected.

Only if rugby becomes tactiball.

By that I assume you mean Rugby Union. I don't remember ther being that many tactics involved in Rugby League. (Kick after the fifth tackle being about the most sophisticated tactical thinking going on there.)

As I played both (actually all three, but my RL experience is limited) I think from my experience that it would be better to call American football - specialistball and rugby can stay as it is - after all it doesn't misrepresent itself as another sport.

True, but I could put you on my ignore list for deliberately insulting me, since you know I take offence to that term. But I won't, because I have come to realize you Euro's take soccer/footy as seriously as Americans take Football, so insults are expected.

I am in Brazil - not Europe. You are doing the equivalent to insulting apple pie and the constitution all rolled into one. Football is the religion here, and the very idea that a sport that does not involve defenders, midfielders, forwards and goalkeepers should be called football is downright heresy.

I was only pointing out that if you can call it what you want, we can do the same.

I am genuinely curious though, as to why American Football is called football at all. It has almost nothing to do with using feet with respect to the ball. It is as unjustified a name as exists in sports.

Eh I've watched Rugby before and it just seems like the game is based on who can knock down each other the best and fastest. However American football or Grid Iron is more about who can call the right plays at the right time.
Haha (I can't believe I'm about to argue in favour of rugby...) More like Rugby involves te same level of tactics, minus the break every 5 minutes to allow the players to realise whats going on. Rugby is just Grid iron on fast forward minus the pussy-padding and helmets. That being said, Soccer is just Rugby minus the mindless head bashing and plus some real ball skill. That being said, Soccer is still a bunch of grown men chasing a ball on a patch of grass, for the entertainment of even more grown men who watch in a big group and mosh when stuff happens.

I am in Brazil - not Europe. You are doing the equivalent to insulting apple pie and the constitution all rolled into one. Football is the religion here, and the very idea that a sport that does not involve defenders, midfielders, forwards and goalkeepers should be called football is downright heresy.

I was only pointing out that if you can call it what you want, we can do the same.

I am genuinely curious though, as to why American Football is called football at all. It has almost nothing to do with using feet with respect to the ball. It is as unjustified a name as exists in sports.

Sorry for my false assumption, but when it comes to the Football/footy/futbol/soccer controversy, Brazil is part of Europe. Spiritually at least. Yes, I know I just set you up for one of those "Americans have no concept of geography" jokes, go ahead, I don't mind.

Apple pie is overrated. That was so 50 years ago.

Football is the religion here as well, and the very idea that a sport that does not involve quarterbacks, wide recievers, running backs and cornerbacks should be called football is downright heresy.

Are we seeing the beginning of the holy war of the future? Christians vs. Muslims? Bah! They got nothing when it comes to the passion or enmity between Football fans. As for the 'accuracy' of the name, allow me to quote Pulp Fiction: "I'm American honey, our names don't mean shit."

We call it what we call it. That's our way.

Football is the religion here as well, and the very idea that a sport that does not involve quarterbacks, wide recievers, running backs and cornerbacks should be called football is downright heresy.



Sorry, but football is not the religion there. It is one of several competeing religions: Football, Baseball, Hockey, Nascar, Christianity etc.

Here there is Football and then there is God and that is it. In that order.

In the US the football season starts in late July (NCAA pre season stuff) and finishes in February (Pro Bowl). Here the football starts on the 1st of January and finishes on the 31st of December. There is no off season.


And yes I know that the English language needs no reason for its idiosyncracies, but what is the connection between American football and feet?

uh... pluto aint a planet, it was proven to small.

And you don't have a penis...it was proven too small.:p

And you don't have a penis...it was proven too small.:p

Awww... :(

Sorry, but football is not the religion there. It is one of several competeing religions: Football, Baseball, Hockey, Nascar, Christianity etc.

Here there is Football and then there is God and that is it. In that order.

In the US the football season starts in late July (NCAA pre season stuff) and finishes in February (Pro Bowl). Here the football starts on the 1st of January and finishes on the 31st of December. There is no off season.


And yes I know that the English language needs no reason for its idiosyncracies, but what is the connection between American football and feet?

Baseball is quickly dying- it sucks ass anyways. Hockey is primarily Canadian. Nascar does have it's religious advocates, I admitt, but we are a nation founded on religious freedom, so some variety is expected. Christianity...well, you have some of them in Brazil too, don't front. But your country is what, 90% Catholic? In my experience, Catholics are not the vocal Christian fundamentalists- the Calvinist based denominations are, and thats what we have more of here, so they are by nature more vocal.

However, the #1 rated TV broadcast? The Superbowl. The phrase "Football is life, everything else is just details." was invented here. And If we had no offseason, there would be no players. EVERYONE would be on IR. But even in the offseason, there is fantasy, OTA's, Ask Vic, and the draft! I have a draft party every year.

Why do we park in a driveway and drive on a parkway? Just because a word like foot is inside another word like "football", doesn't mean it has anything to do with a foot.

How about we do away with american football and rugby?

How about we do away with american football and rugby?

But, what will I watch on Sundays?

It sounds like diner lingo for a grilled cheese sandwich platter.

Take off the padding, quit stopping the game for a chat every five minutes, stop using organized plays and making it a thinking man's game, and make it all about passing backwards instead of using multiple option to reach your goal, give it a bunch of silly rules, use it as an excuse for drunken twits to rough each other up, and call it rugby. :p

I fixed your post.

The way I see it Grid Iron is just a crapper version of the already crap sport Rugby, which in itself is just a crap version of the least crap sport, soccer. Seeing as all sports are crap, but soccer is the least crap of the teams sports involving grown men chasing a ball on a patch of grass while other men mosh to the phenomenon, all other such sports should fold to them. I'll do up a hierachy of crapness in sports, for those of you who cannot innately tall, at a later date.

Somebody's the fat kid in gym class.

Somebody's the fat kid in gym class.

ROFL!

Soccer in the US is about as popular as NFL Europe is.
It'll never catch on like it has on the rest of the planet, because there is no season for it. So there's no reason to worry about renaming American Football.

Baseball owns late spring & summer,
Football owns autumn & early winter,
Basketball & Hockey share winter and early spring. (Hockey is mostly popular in the North, Basketball in the South and California, but there is of course lots of overlap.)

And then there's NASCAR, Golf (revitalized by Tiger, Mickelson, Vijay, Love, et al) and a smaller but very loyal Tennis fanbase.

...quite simply, 300 million people have quite enough sports to watch.

I've heard it all before: Soccer will be the next big thing in 5-10 years.
Punchline: And it always will be. :(

Don't get me wrong, I like Soccer. I played goal for 9 years (all through middle school, high school and early college). But it's never going to be big here in the USA.

Sorry, but football is not the religion there. It is one of several competeing religions: Football, Baseball, Hockey, Nascar, Christianity etc.

Here there is Football and then there is God and that is it. In that order.

In the US the football season starts in late July (NCAA pre season stuff) and finishes in February (Pro Bowl). Here the football starts on the 1st of January and finishes on the 31st of December. There is no off season.


And yes I know that the English language needs no reason for its idiosyncracies, but what is the connection between American football and feet?

haha, (s)he said hockey was a competitor... *laughs*

haha, (s)he said hockey was a competitor... *laughs*

He, thank you very much.

I did not say it was a competitor, I said that it was one of the religions in the USA. It might have a minority following, but it has fanaticism to spare.

He, thank you very much.

I did not say it was a competitor, I said that it was one of the religions in the USA. It might have a minority following, but it has fanaticism to spare.

Only Minnesotans, and they don't count as people.

Grid Iron is a pretty cool name, and I'd not find it objectionable to change it. Of course I'm also cool with just calling it football, so it makes no difference to me.

the europeans will just have to deal with it...

they should call soccer "kickball" or something...

I think if you throw "girly men" in front of your "kickball" then it may be a better name.

Sorry, but football is not the religion there. It is one of several competeing religions: Football, Baseball, Hockey, Nascar, Christianity etc.

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In the US the football season starts in late July (NCAA pre season stuff) and finishes in February (Pro Bowl). Here the football starts on the 1st of January and finishes on the 31st of December. There is no off season…

Ah, there is but one religion in the United States. Once separate, the Church of Football and the Baseball Fellowship were united under the great prophet Deion Sanders. And he said:

"Yea, let there not be blood let shed over which is better. Though October binds the faiths in twine, let this be cause for great jubilation. For I can be both center field and cornerback, thou canst follow each verily well."
And it was good.

Football and Baseball are followed passionately in the US, and when the seasons overlap, it's called "the best months in sports" for a reason.

American Football should be called adball and football (soccer) henceforth will be diveball.

Sorry, but football is not the religion there. It is one of several competeing religions: Football, Baseball, Hockey, Nascar, Christianity etc.

Hey! Hockey is Canada's religion.

what is the connection between American football and feet?

I guess you have never seen a kickoff, a field goal, a punt, or a drop kick? Guess what, they all involve the foot. There is your missing connection. Football even has a positions named "Place-kicker and Kick Returner" Kick = foot.

Instead of renaming American Football, the other football (Soccer) should just go by Footie or Footy. That seems to have a ring to it that matches the physical intimidation of the game. Not to mention the name "Diving" has already been taken.

American Football should be called adball and football (soccer) henceforth will be diveball.
Some people say that the best thing about the Super Bowl is the ads.

I'll say that the best thing about the World Cup Championship is the ads. All 12 minutes of them in a 2 hours plus game. Take that NFL!

I do prefer American Football to the other football, but I wish that there weren't so many damn ads.