NationStates Jolt Archive

Now, this is cool:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/12/05/INDUNCAN05.DTL

In June, surgeons implanted a sensor under the skull and directly into the brain of a 25-year-old Rhode Island quadriplegic named Matthew Nagle. That allowed him to control a computer and other machines using pure thought.

This is absolutely amazing, Currently he has to have technicians connect him to the computer, but he can play pacman using only his brain!! O_o

there have even been talks about bionic prosthetics that can translate the signals from your nervous system. Amputees, paraplegics, and quadriplegics could soon be restored to their original abilities by this technology.

So if you could integrate/replace any part of your body, what would you do?

me, I would turn my brain into a universal remote!

I would definitely use my mind to make and record music - that would be so awesome! No need for tunes and songs to be stuck in my head with no possible hope of future use or recognition! :D

Wow, that's amazing! Life gets more fun every day, it seems. If you're outside of England, of course.

Wow, next they'll be implimenting computer chips into our brains! That is so cool!

This just sounds creepy.

That fucking rocks. I need a memory upgrade.

I'd make my head into an automated witty retort generator.

This just sounds creepy.

Why?

ACCEPT THE MACHINES!!!:p

yeah it does sound sort of matrix/Asimov-ish

Pretty soon, Daleks will be available for domestic functions!

The more we make life better for humans, the better!

Duh!

I don't see why people always complain about these sorts of things.

---

Old(er) Man: "Oh, it wasn't like that back in my day. Now you're becoming lazy."

Me: "Oh, I'm terribly sorry that other people are making efforts to improve the general standard of life for everyone, I guess that makes life much worse than yours back in the war-ridden 40's, eh?"

ZOMG this freakin' rocks! :D Hehe, if it were possible I can see myself pretty much cyborgalising my entire person. Upgrade everything - limbs, senses, mind, the whole shebang :D I'd be a one man attack of awesome.

I would be on the internet 24/7.

You could do some impressive graphis work if you take the image straight from your brain.

I would be on the internet 24/7.

You could do some impressive graphis work if you take the image straight from your brain.

And if you got a wireless connection built in you could be on there wherever! :D That'd be brilliant fr exams... especially if you got computer screens built into your corneas and everything...

*Drifts off into awesome sci-fi fantasy, possibly involving gophers*

I would make my pecker vibrate ;)

And if you got a wireless connection built in you could be on there wherever! :D That'd be brilliant fr exams... especially if you got computer screens built into your corneas and everything...

*Drifts off into awesome sci-fi fantasy, possibly involving gophers*
You wouldn't need to hook it up to screens in your cornea, just hook it up to the part of your brain responsible for visualization.

I would make my pecker vibrate ;)

i was waiting for teh first penis joke, what took you so long?:D

Now that is cool.

I want one. And also want a datasheet, a few programmable PICs and lots of wiring.

i was waiting for teh first penis joke, what took you so long?:D

Rofl didn't know it was here.

I thought my idea was fairly original for a penis joke though :)

That just sounds frightening.

After all, if a computer chip can be implanted that allows you to control things with your mind, it's only one small step for your mind to be controlled by the computer.

Totalitarian zombies, anyone?

That just sounds frightening.

After all, if a computer chip can be implanted that allows you to control things with your mind, it's only one small step for your mind to be controlled by the computer.

Totalitarian zombies, anyone?

Yes please. Can I have fries with that?

That just sounds frightening.

After all, if a computer chip can be implanted that allows you to control things with your mind, it's only one small step for your mind to be controlled by the computer.

Totalitarian zombies, anyone?
*removes Philosopy's tinfoil hat*

That just sounds frightening.

After all, if a computer chip can be implanted that allows you to control things with your mind, it's only one small step for your mind to be controlled by the computer.

Totalitarian zombies, anyone?
Yes, but look at it the other way; it's an even smaller step for your mind to control its own zombie hoard of robots.

That just sounds frightening.

After all, if a computer chip can be implanted that allows you to control things with your mind, it's only one small step for your mind to be controlled by the computer.

Totalitarian zombies, anyone?


absolute robocracy, we'll all be damned in hell if google becomes self-aware

*removes Philosopy's tinfoil hat*
Well, look at what computer's do today, how connected they all are and how easy it is for hackers to gain control of them, and then tell me you still want one in your brain.

I'd rather that Microsoft's latest security patch wasn't designed to stop someone from taking control of me.

absolute robocracy, we'll all be damned in hell if google becomes self-aware

What makes you think it isn't already......

Well, look at what computer's do today, how connected they all are and how easy it is for hackers to gain control of them, and then tell me you still want one in your brain.

I'd rather that Microsoft's latest security patch wasn't designed to stop someone from taking control of me.
You'd install windows on your brain?:confused:

You wouldn't need to put an OS on your brainchip, you brain could generate the drivers nessesary through T&A.

You'd install windows on your brain?:confused:

You wouldn't need to put an OS on your brainchip, you brain could generate the drivers nessesary through T&A.

OMG what if windows installs mindcontrol into its software!?
and uses us to dismantle linux....:eek:

Now, this is cool:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/12/05/INDUNCAN05.DTL



This is absolutely amazing, Currently he has to have technicians connect him to the computer, but he can play pacman using only his brain!! O_o

there have even been talks about bionic prosthetics that can translate the signals from your nervous system. Amputees, paraplegics, and quadriplegics could soon be restored to their original abilities by this technology.

So if you could integrate/replace any part of your body, what would you do?

me, I would turn my brain into a universal remote!

This is only the very beginning - brain/computer interfaces will be one of the defining technologies of the 21st century. Think about it - all the resources of the Internet, software applications, and artificial additional memory space and computational power, all far closer than your proverbial fingertips. Sensorium augmentation that makes the reality you perceive whatever you want it to be. Fundamental modifications to the manner and speed of your thought. And after that, going one step further and offloading the entirety of your mind and capabilities, instead of just some of them, to a machine - uploading - will be obvious and, if not easy, then significantly less than impossible.

Plus, the possibilities for...altered states of mind...will be simply unimaginable. :D

That just sounds frightening.

After all, if a computer chip can be implanted that allows you to control things with your mind, it's only one small step for your mind to be controlled by the computer.

Totalitarian zombies, anyone?

You're absolutely right. That's a very real possibility, and someone will almost certainly try it somewhere, and probably in the fairly near term.

The problem with using this as a rationale for not creating or using the technology is that the same thing has been true of every advancement - information viruses are just one step up from destructive viral memes like Nazism, direct-sensorium spam just the next form of intrusive advertising. Benefits are always accompanied by risks - you just have to be canny and ride the wave of change to maximize one and protect yourself from the other.

But specifically in terms of infotech - I wouldn't be too afraid. The hackers have always been one step ahead of the hidebound government computer people, and it'll stay that way. Governments hire experienced adults who have an exhaustive functional knowledge of computers from the perspective of someone who was introduced to them a decade before, in a field where change is exponential. The younger people who grew up with computers and do innovative things with them based on new information, and the kind of adults who in this respect stay young more or less forever, and who would never work for the oppressive, bureaucratic Big G, are always a little beyond the curve.

In terms of economic problems, well, legit companies couldn't load spyware onto your brain because they'd have their pants sued off of them. Spammers and their ilk you deal with the way you always do - by being smart about your protections, and NOT running an operating system for your interface written by Microsoft.

Well, look at what computer's do today, how connected they all are and how easy it is for hackers to gain control of them, and then tell me you still want one in your brain.

I'd rather that Microsoft's latest security patch wasn't designed to stop someone from taking control of me.
You're not sticking a processor in your brain, you know. It's just a sensor; a different kind of input device. You need to provide your own output, like a computer or a robotic arm.

OMG what if windows installs mindcontrol into its software!?
and uses us to dismantle linux....:eek:
What if DRM got installed? Couldn't listen to music untill you paid the artist.:eek:

NOT LINUX!!!eleventyone!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

I'd make my head into an automated witty retort generator.

I need that. I'll sign up.

That just sounds frightening.

After all, if a computer chip can be implanted that allows you to control things with your mind, it's only one small step for your mind to be controlled by the computer.

Totalitarian zombies, anyone?

Not too paranoid are we?

This is only the very beginning - brain/computer interfaces will be one of the defining technologies of the 21st century. Think about it - all the resources of the Internet, software applications, and artificial additional memory space and computational power, all far closer than your proverbial fingertips. Sensorium augmentation that makes the reality you perceive whatever you want it to be. Fundamental modifications to the manner and speed of your thought. And after that, going one step further and offloading the entirety of your mind and capabilities, instead of just some of them, to a machine - uploading - will be obvious and, if not easy, then significantly less than impossible.

Plus, the possibilities for...altered states of mind...will be simply unimaginable. :D
Brain,

[Computer From Star Treck]thinking[/Computer From Star Treck]

Initiate wasted patch 2.0

No thank you, and when you are all cyborgs, I will steal your potato chips!!!!!!!!!!]\\\]olb;l
agj


Arrrrghhh! I am a pirate!!!!!! I will download your minds onto my computer with Limewire!!!!!!!

You could create custom cocktails of alterations - bump my seratonin and norepinephrine, depress my dopamine, etc. etc.

Computer: How, precisely, would like me to fuck you up, Captain?

Arrrrghhh! I am a pirate!!!!!! I will download your minds onto my computer with Limewire!!!!!!!

How much memory does your computer have? :eek:

How much memory does your computer have? :eek:

I'll use the multi-terabyte server harddrive at work.

How much memory does your computer have? :eek:

You'll have enough space for one mind for less than $1000 by around 2019, if Moore's Law keeps going.

...the Open-Source Consciousness Movement! :eek:

You'll have enough space for one mind for less than $1000 by around 2019, if Moore's Law keeps going.

...the Open-Source Consciousness Movement! :eek:

I'd be amused to meet someone running on Linux. Or even worse, an Apple OS.

Think we could ditch sleep with this? We may be able to offload sleep onto a secondary chip. Unless we need to be asleep for sleep to do its thing, then we could upload ourself to a chip for the duration.

I'd be amused to meet someone running on Linux. Or even worse, an Apple OS.
Why? Could you imagine Linux eyecndy on your brain?

But regardless, neither would work. The brain would probably adapt to handle everything on its own.

No thank you, and when you are all cyborgs, I will steal your potato chips!!!!!!!!!!]\\\]olb;l
agj


Arrrrghhh! I am a pirate!!!!!! I will download your minds onto my computer with Limewire!!!!!!!

My sig is so appropriate here.

My sig is so appropriate here.

Seconded.

My sig is so appropriate here.

I...am...hypnotized....




Arrrrggghhh!

That fucking rocks. I need a memory upgrade.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41005000/jpg/_41005944_cyberman300.jpg

Lumic: I will upgrade. Only, with my last breath.
Cyberman: Then breathe no more.

You'll have enough space for one mind for less than $1000 by around 2019, if Moore's Law keeps going.

...the Open-Source Consciousness Movement! :eek:

I'd rather wait for the tech they have in Ghost in Shell. That would be some spooky stuff.

I'd rather wait for the tech they have in Ghost in Shell. That would be some spooky stuff.

no it woudn't! why are people afraid of this stuff would you be afraid of the internet back in the 80s?

I saw an article in US News about that stuff when I was looking for Sci fair ideas...*sigh* I love neuroscience.

Think we could ditch sleep with this? We may be able to offload sleep onto a secondary chip. Unless we need to be asleep for sleep to do its thing, then we could upload ourself to a chip for the duration.

You can decrease your sleep needs massively right now. Get an online prescription for modafinil. It was made for low-grade narcoleptics, but its real value is in enormous reduction of sleep needs in ordinary people.

no it woudn't! why are people afraid of this stuff would you be afraid of the internet back in the 80s?

Oh, there's more than enough people a'feared of the internet in the here and now, nevermind the 80s... (http://www.bobchristenson.com/node/300)

If Satan has one big tool, these days, what is it? What's the biggest and most effective way he rips apart our world? There were a few qualifiers to this question....things that really have to mark it as Satan's territory.

First, it would have to be something that was tearing apart families. Second, it would have to be something that sucks you valuable time. Third, it would have to be something that is a distraction from the spiritual. And, finally, in true Satan fashion, it would have to be something with an incredible potential for good and a tool that can be really helpful, if used correctly...you see, Satan seems to like to confuse us. He likes to take something bad and make it look (or actually be) very useful and good at the same time.

The internet is all this and more. I'll venture to say it's the most powerful tool in Satan's toolbelt right now.

Oh, there's more than enough people a'feared of the internet in the here and now, nevermind the 80s... (http://www.bobchristenson.com/node/300)

wow and yet they post this crap on the internet.....don't you need a license to be that stupid?