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After all I don't want to vote for SIN! :(

Sorry for the cut and past but the post usually likes you to login.

Do you think her handlers screamed DAMN IT? :D

Take note of their response on the end! Righhhht! I belive you! :rolleyes:
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Rep. Harris Condemns Separation of Church, State

By Jim Stratton
Orlando Sentinel
Saturday, August 26, 2006; Page A09

ORLANDO, Aug. 25 -- Rep. Katherine Harris (R-Fla.) said this week that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that the separation of church and state is a "lie we have been told" to keep religious people out of politics.

"If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Harris told interviewers from the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention. She cited abortion and same-sex marriage as examples of that sin.

Harris, a candidate in the Sept. 5 Republican primary for U.S. Senate, said her religious beliefs "animate" everything she does, including her votes in Congress.

Witness editors interviewed candidates for office, asking them to describe their faith and their positions on certain issues.

Harris has always professed a deep Christian faith. But she has rarely expressed such a fervent evangelical perspective publicly.

Political and religious officials responded to her published remarks with outrage and dismay.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said she was "disgusted" by the comments "and deeply disappointed in Representative Harris personally."

Harris, Wasserman Schultz said, "clearly shows that she does not deserve to be a representative."

Ruby Brooks, a veteran Tampa Bay Republican activist, said Harris's remarks "were offensive to me as a Christian and a Republican."

"This notion that you've been chosen or anointed, it's offensive," Brooks said. "We hurt our cause with that more than we help it."

Harris told the journalists "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.

"And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our Founding Fathers intended, and that certainly isn't what God intended."

Harris campaign spokeswoman Jennifer Marks would not answer questions about the Harris interview. Instead, she released a two-sentence statement.

"Congresswoman Harris encourages Americans from all walks of life and faith to participate in our government," it stated. "She continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms."

And another nutjob to whom God speaks directly, or so He told me :headbang:

She's going to lose worse than Alan Keyes did. Sen. Nelson is well liked, shes just a wack job......and I think a man. Seriously, have you seen her, she looks like shes in bad drag.

This will be my first chance ever to revenge vote. I'm voting against her in November as revenge for her fucking us so hard in 2000. If wiping my ass on the voting machine would make a difference, I'd do it.

I think Harris' campaign is in trouble according to recent polls so she's trying to mobilize the christo-fascist element to vote for her. Dumb broad should just talk to her pal Gov. Jeb Bush and have him rig the election like he did for his brother.

This disgusts me. Really and truly. "If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin,"

Christianity has gotten so soft. Like a guilt trip is going to stop those damn satanists. Seriously, it's time get out the torches and racks. You don't want to elect Christians? Fine! No Christian mercy for you, biatch!

How is it that people like that even get elected? It's like electing the guys on the street corners who think the end is extremely fucking nigh.

Harris told the journalists "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.

Holy shit, I didn't know there were people who still believed in the Divine Right of Kings...I thought that idea died out in Europe in the 18th century, let alone survived in to the 21st century American republic.

That's some scary shit...she'll get her ass handed to her like Alan Keyes.

This disgusts me. Really and truly. "If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin,"

Christianity has gotten so soft. Like a guilt trip is going to stop those damn satanists. Seriously, it's time get out the torches and racks. You don't want to elect Christians? Fine! No Christian mercy for you, biatch!

Yeah. Where's the Christian inventiveness that gave us the Vaginal Pear, Judas' Cradle and the Catherine Wheel? Now those were great political tools.
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http://www.shanmonster.com/witch/torture/judas.html
http://home.comcast.net/~burokerl/catherine_wheel.htm

Yeah. Where's the Christian inventiveness that gave us the Vaginal Pear, Judas' Cradle and the Catherine Wheel? Now those were great political tools.
http://www.vaginalpear.com/
http://www.shanmonster.com/witch/torture/judas.html
http://home.comcast.net/~burokerl/catherine_wheel.htm

Gimme that old time religion....

Thomas Jefferson didn't write the Declaration of Independence. Instead, God wrote it and gave it to him during the night as Jefferson prepared for bed.

This will be my first chance ever to revenge vote. I'm voting against her in November as revenge for her fucking us so hard in 2000. If wiping my ass on the voting machine would make a difference, I'd do it.

have you been following her campaign? it was extremely gratifying to read about her recent humiliation at having none of her supposed big time supporters show up for a recent rally at an airplane hanger somewhere. she has had to remove the endorsements of quite a few people from her website as it turns out they really dont support her at all.

i hope this humiliation ruins her political career forever.

This will be my first chance ever to revenge vote. I'm voting against her in November as revenge for her fucking us so hard in 2000. If wiping my ass on the voting machine would make a difference, I'd do it.

If I were voting in Florida, I'd vote against her just for unleashing that incompetent moron on us in 2000...the nutty religious stuff is just icing on the cake.

Gimme that old time religion....

Nothing says Jesus loves and forgives you like the Catherine Wheel.

A seventeenth-century chronicler wrote the victim looked like, "A sort of huge screaming puppet writhing in rivulets of blood, a puppet with four tentacles, like a sea monster, of raw, slimy and shapeless flesh mixed up with splinters of smashed bones."

have you been following her campaign? it was extremely gratifying to read about her recent humiliation at having none of her supposed big time supporters show up for a recent rally at an airplane hanger somewhere. she has had to remove the endorsements of quite a few people from her website as it turns out they really dont support her at all.

i hope this humiliation ruins her political career forever.

Yeah, she's toast, and it's been funny to watch her self-destruct over the past few months. What's even been more gratifying, however, is the failure of the Florida Republican party, which is powerful and in control of both the legislature and the governorship, to find someone to challenge her in the primary. They've ceded the seat, and it should have been in play this year.

I'll tell you something else. This race has really shown just how big of douchebags Jeb and Dubya are. She made Dubya in 2004, and they've both deserted her, tossed her like a drunk sorority girl with a broken high heeled shoe.

If I were voting in Florida, I'd vote against her just for unleashing that incompetent moron on us in 2000...the nutty religious stuff is just icing on the cake.

Seeing her annihilated will be a pleasure.

Sin v. Divine Right... doesn't even require much thought to know which to support.

It is politicians like this that reinforce my recent decision to change my party affiliation from Republican to Independent. Maybe some really good third party candidates will show up for the next election.

Well there you have it! She thought that God told her to put Bush in office! Had to make sure that Gore lost, after all Bush says he discusses all his decisions with God right? Well, if God WANTS Bush in the White House...

I just can't complete this line of thought.

Seeing her annihilated will be a pleasure.

Sin v. Divine Right... doesn't even require much thought to know which to support.

Especially when "sin" actually means "independent thought" and "freedom of religion"...

Well there you have it! She thought that God told her to put Bush in office! Had to make sure that Gore lost, after all Bush says he discusses all his decisions with God right? Well, if God WANTS Bush in the White House...

I just can't complete this line of thought.

You don't need to. Harris, along with Choice Point DBT, completed it for you in November of 2000.

After all I don't want to vote for SIN!
Electing "Christians" to office doesn't seem to have prevented America from legislating sin lately.

Harris told the journalists "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.
The idea of the Divine Right of rulers went out the window two hundred years ago.

You don't need to. Harris, along with Choice Point DBT, completed it for you in November of 2000.

Yes. Depressing. Only thing to do is to get some new leaders in Congress this November. Perhaps a spine will grow there and then would try to halt Bush's craziness.

Or perhaps simple idiocy...

Gimme that old time religion....

Gimme that old time religion
Gimme that old time religion
Gimme that old time religion
It’s good enough for me

We will pray to Aphrodite
We will pray to Aphrodite
She wears that see-thru nightie
And she's good enough for me.

We will pray to Zarathrustra,
We will pray just like we used-to,
I'm a Zarathrustra booster,
And it’s good enough for me.

We will pray with those Egyptians,
Who built pyramids to put our crypts in
Covered up with strange inscriptions,
And it’s good enough for me.

We will pray with those old Druids,
Drinking strange fermented fluids,
Waltzing naked through the woods,
It’s good enough for me.

We’ll do dances to bring water
Sacrifice animals for slaughter
Sacrifice our sons and daughters
And that’s good enough for me.

Hare Khrisna he must laugh on
To see me dressed in saffron
With my hair that’s only half on
And it’s good enough for me.

I will rise up at early morning,
When my Lord gives me the warning,
That the solar age is dawning,
He's good enough for me.

We will pray to the Lord Buddha,
Of gods there is none cuter,
Come in silver, brass or pewter,
He's good enough for me.

We will pray to Ra and Ahmen
Just like Tutankhamen,
And teach our friends embalming,
They're good enough for me.

We won't worship like the Persians,
We'll sacrifice no virgins,
Please control your carnal urgin's,
It's good enough for me.

We will all worship the Mother
Not the womb of any other
Virgin, crone and mother
She's good enough for me

We will pray for New Age Aquarians,
And hang out in Planetariums,
Lotta em are Unitarians,
They're good enough for me.

We will pray to a god named Odin,
In their wooden boats go floatin'
Filled Europe with forbodin'
He's good enough for me.

We will pray to the Quakers
Oft confused with the Shakers,
Of war they are not makers,
They're good enough for me.

We will pray to the god Shiva,
the one with many sleeva's
Who destroys all disbelivas
He's good enough for me.

We will pray to the god Shiva,
the one with many sleeva's
Who destroys all disbelivas
He's good enough for me.
I skimmed until I got to the end, and then I snorted. Thank you. :D

I skimmed until I got to the end, and then I snorted. Thank you. :D

Thank Pete Seeger, he's the one who updated the song...

Harris told the journalists "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.


Listen up! The President has divine right to rule, so if you question him you're a sinner! Repent!


"And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our Founding Fathers intended, and that certainly isn't what God intended."


So has she never heard of deists or what



"Congresswoman Harris encourages Americans from all walks of life and faith to participate in our government," it stated. "She continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms."


I love it when politicians and their aids stop bending the truth and just start beating the crap out of it.

Not that I'm prudish or anything, but you guys might want to check those links you placed in your posts and quotes - some of them might be considered breaking the forum rules...

This will be my first chance ever to revenge vote. I'm voting against her in November as revenge for her fucking us so hard in 2000. If wiping my ass on the voting machine would make a difference, I'd do it.

But tell us how you really feel.

Not that I'm prudish or anything, but you guys might want to check those links you placed in your posts and quotes - some of them might be considered breaking the forum rules...

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't see the link for a hardcore S&M site at the bottom of one of the pages I linked to.

Amazing how people said that the Democrats were overreacting back in 2000 when Bush lost but got the Supreme Court (loyal Republicans all) to vote him into office.
Just think of how much better the country would be right now if Gore had been allowed to win...
:)

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't see the link for a hardcore S&M site at the bottom of one of the pages I linked to.
Sure thing, DCD - now you only have to get to Vetalia to change his quotation as well...

I'd hate to see you become Drunk Commies Respawned ;)

She forgot to mention the ultimate sin in her little tirade there....Being a politician.

Christian Republicans need to be shot.

Christian Republicans need to be shot.

Nah, just force them to have that "Pear" up them throughout the entire campaigning process.
:)

Interesting bit of info on that.

This is just another example that proves my point -

Religion = Arrogance

Sounds like all those theocrats in the Middle East.

Got a policy question? ... The Koran. :rolleyes:

But hey. We can still maintain the pretence we're different, right?

Because it's G*D, you heathen! Not some devilish idol from the desert!
What, like Jesus? :D

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This is just another example that proves my point -

Ultraconservative Religion = Arrogance

Maybe that's closer to the truth.

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You know, I wish there weren't people like this making Christians look bad. I mean, its tough enough without leaving us wide open with ridiculous statements that you really can't defend against, other than to say.... umm, I'm not with that guy. :headbang:

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You know, I wish there weren't people like this making Christians look bad. I mean, its tough enough without leaving us wide open with ridiculous statements that you really can't defend against, other than to say.... umm, I'm not with that guy. :headbang:
You sound like a lot of Muslims do on any given day.

You sound like a lot of Muslims do on any given day.
Lest we forget.

The way I see it, people can own up to being as bad as each other, or accept that received wisdom and generalisations are a load of bollocks.

Welcome to the dark side...

Finally they're going to stop pretending!

Holy shit, I didn't know there were people who still believed in the Divine Right of Kings...I thought that idea died out in Europe in the 18th century, let alone survived in to the 21st century American republic.

Wiki the Christian Reconstructionist movement. It's basically Christian theofascism, and is very real and very fucking scary.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm

And mentions a link to Pat Buchanan...

Among the prominent writers for the organization:
Larry Pratt: head of the Gun Owners of America and English First, a group opposed to non-English speaking immigrants and bilingual education. Author of "Armed People Victorious" which documents Guatemalan and Philippine militias and para-military death squads. He was campaign co-chair of the Buchanan presidential campaign in 1996.