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What's a Chav?

Aurania-Shifre
26-08-2006, 14:19
i keep going into regions and seeing"no chavs allowed" i think its a british term but why does everyone not like them?
Harlesburg
26-08-2006, 14:20
i keep going into regions and seeing"no chavs allowed" i think its a british term but why does everyone not like them?
They are Wiggers!
Hydesland
26-08-2006, 14:21
A chav is a british redneck. With extremely cockney accents.

There are certain levels of chavness though, some people may where chavvy clothes (tracksuits, polo necks etc...) but wont be that annoying and act so chavvy.

A lot of the Chavs are really middle class trying to be working class.
Baguetten
26-08-2006, 14:24
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chav&r=f
Harlesburg
26-08-2006, 14:29
Sugababes are Chavs...
WDGann
26-08-2006, 14:33
Council Housed Abnormally Violent.

Tho' that's probably not really where it comes from. Prolly something to do with romani I'd guess.
Luna Dancing
26-08-2006, 14:35
true :]
Ollieland
26-08-2006, 14:40
www.chavscum.com
Skibereen
26-08-2006, 14:49
www.chavscum.com

"Chavs, Hoodies, Trailer Trash, Skeets, Surrey Girls, Bro Hoes, Bogans, whatever you know them as, this site is about them, the worlds peasant underclass that are taking over our towns and cities!"


After reading tht statement I suddenly like Chavs a lot more then I did a few seconds ago.

I always assumed Chav to mean wigger, or dickhead frat boy type.

I didnt realise is what was a classism pejorative and that "peasant underclass" see: poor, impoverished... were what all these fuckers were really talking about.

I didnt realize it was elitism based on a caste concept.
If the website is wrong then sorry, if it isnt then fuck anyone who uses the word.
New Lofeta
26-08-2006, 14:57
"Chavs, Hoodies, Trailer Trash, Skeets, Surrey Girls, Bro Hoes, Bogans, whatever you know them as, this site is about them, the worlds peasant underclass that are taking over our towns and cities!"


After reading tht statement I suddenly like Chavs a lot more then I did a few seconds ago.

I always assumed Chav to mean wigger, or dickhead frat boy type.

I didnt realise is what was a classism pejorative and that "peasant underclass" see: poor, impoverished... were what all these fuckers were really talking about.

I didnt realize it was elitism based on a caste concept.
If the website is wrong then sorry, if it isnt then fuck anyone who uses the word.


No.... being poor does not make you a Chav and being a Chav does not make you poor.

Chavs (at best) go around happy slapping- which is where you slap a stranger (usually on a bus) and have a mate take a photo afterwards. At worse... they will set fire to your shirt or knife you just for a laugh. They've made lots of streets and estates scarey to walk down, at any time.


It's not a class thing.
Compulsive Depression
26-08-2006, 14:58
I didnt realize it was elitism based on a caste concept.
If the website is wrong then sorry, if it isnt then fuck anyone who uses the word.
That's kinda back-to-front. They're not particularly poor or impoverished, more ignorant, feckless, violent, cowardly, that kind of thing. A bit like unemployed sports teachers, really. The Urban Dictionary reference Fass gave is quite a good definition.

If you still think you like chavs then come over and meet a few - you will soon change your mind :)
Ifreann
26-08-2006, 15:01
Chavs are human shaped scum, held together by burberry.
Baguetten
26-08-2006, 15:03
No thread on chavs is complete without Vicky Pollard. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljv8fBNv7uI)

She's his bitch, now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QftMy49nV4A&NR)
Gataway_Driver
26-08-2006, 15:05
The term chav for me describes the propotion of people who like to drink Stella (male) or an alcopop (female) and be loud, violent and offencive. Some describe them as scum, defenders of chavs say its the idiotic few that mis-represent the group. Personally I judge on a case by case basis.
Skibereen
26-08-2006, 15:21
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chav&r=f

Ahhhh--much more clear and much more what I had originally thought and loathed.

Though there is some miss understanding about translating a Chav to their American equivalents.

But, yes, indeed I do loathe chavs and I see now it was not a matter of Classism but simply a matter of being classless.

Very clear now.
Hydesland
26-08-2006, 15:23
Some people say i am a bit chavvy.

Only because sometimes I wear sports cloathing and hang around with other chavvy people (sometimes).

Though i definately don't go round beating people up and all that;)
Drunk commies deleted
26-08-2006, 15:29
If any other culture besides Chav culture was being attacked like this on NS everyone would be up in arms ranting about bigotry and respect for other cultures. It seems it's ok to pick on chavs here. Probably because you're all a bunch of gaylords innit?
Hydesland
26-08-2006, 15:30
If any other culture besides Chav culture was being attacked like this on NS everyone would be up in arms ranting about bigotry and respect for other cultures. It seems it's ok to pick on chavs here. Probably because you're all a bunch of gaylords innit?

I wouldn't really call Chav a culture, more a fashion trend.
Skibereen
26-08-2006, 15:34
I wouldn't really call Chav a culture, more a fashion trend.

Exactly--
Kamsaki
26-08-2006, 15:36
Chavs are not necessarily poor, but they are inevitably demoted to the working, dole or even criminal classes. They are children who have been raised by their peers (who were raised by theirs etc. etc.), and who have as such taken on a lifestyle of thuggery and a complete disrespect for anyone or anything outside of their own circle of friends. The concept of an honest day's work or an education is completely beyond their comprehension. To them, life is about making people pay attention to you and the acquisition of status by any means necessary. And they are, unfortunately, the inevitable result of the cult of the individual that grips the western world.
Skaladora
26-08-2006, 15:37
If any other culture besides Chav culture was being attacked like this on NS everyone would be up in arms ranting about bigotry and respect for other cultures. It seems it's ok to pick on chavs here. Probably because you're all a bunch of gaylords innit?

Gaylords? First time I've heard that term. Are those some kind of gay overlords with even greater powers over the realms of fashion, interior decorating, and arts?
Baguetten
26-08-2006, 15:44
Gaylords? First time I've heard that term. Are those some kind of gay overlords with even greater powers over the realms of fashion, interior decorating, and arts?

I see you've still to ascend to the upper levels in the art of faggotry.
Kamsaki
26-08-2006, 16:03
Gaylords? First time I've heard that term. Are those some kind of gay overlords with even greater powers over the realms of fashion, interior decorating, and arts?
Nah, the Gaylords are really just honorific. The real power lies with the Gaycabinet and the Gaycrown.
Xartoglagh
26-08-2006, 16:07
Gaylords? First time I've heard that term. Are those some kind of gay overlords with even greater powers over the realms of fashion, interior decorating, and arts?
Gaylord is often just given as a title to anyone who talks even slightly effiminately...i.e. to Americans, most Brittish men who speak proper English are very effiminate in speech. (A definate Gaylord is Rimmer from Red Dwarf.)
Definitions: Gaylord as Dis (http://www.turdwords.com/viewWord.cfm?wordID=785)
As a Gang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almighty_Gaylords)
Other Gaylords (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylord)
Where the word came from (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaillard)
Xartoglagh
26-08-2006, 16:10
I wouldn't really call Chav a culture, more a fashion trend.
Down here (Louisiana, USA), most wannabe thugs grow out of it. Some are even the best educated, with the most home support (like my cousin...he wears it as a style, not a lifestyle).
Drunk commies deleted
26-08-2006, 16:15
Gaylords? First time I've heard that term. Are those some kind of gay overlords with even greater powers over the realms of fashion, interior decorating, and arts?



http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gaylord

Now I've got nothing against the gays. The term was my feeble attempt to use a cool chav style insult.
Pure Metal
26-08-2006, 16:18
"Chavs, Hoodies, Trailer Trash, Skeets, Surrey Girls, Bro Hoes, Bogans, whatever you know them as, this site is about them, the worlds peasant underclass that are taking over our towns and cities!"


After reading tht statement I suddenly like Chavs a lot more then I did a few seconds ago.

I always assumed Chav to mean wigger, or dickhead frat boy type.

I didnt realise is what was a classism pejorative and that "peasant underclass" see: poor, impoverished... were what all these fuckers were really talking about.

I didnt realize it was elitism based on a caste concept.
If the website is wrong then sorry, if it isnt then fuck anyone who uses the word.

its mostly only a class thing in that class distinctions are still rife in most socioeconomic distinctions and the mindset of this country. other than that its not about class - chavs are a not so much a socioeconomic group, apart from the fact that - yes - they do happen to generally come from lower income backgrounds (the "real" chavs anyway... there are rich ones which could be described more like 'wiggers') but that's not the defining characteristic. they are rude, aggressive, have a tendancy to glorify violence and often think of themselves as 'gangsta' (lol), have a perchant for petty crime and vandalism, are loud and are generally tossers by anyone's book. of course people all round the world are like that, but the thing with chavs is all that negative stuff is just part of, and is glorified in, the chav counter-culture.

the thing that makes them more an object of snide pity and irreverance is the fact that they are generally not actually that scary, but think themselves so. there are some who are genuinely 'gangsta' but most just go along with the fashion and act in a particularly obnoxious way. its the kind of laughable pity, yet mild apprehension that you could (and do) get when, say, a scrawny 13 year old kid threatens to beat you up in overinflated language (not to mention that terrible faux-accent)... its kinda funny, and not really that threatening... but then you never know if he's one of the ones who's actually carrying a knife or not :-S
Safalra
26-08-2006, 16:50
i keep going into regions and seeing"no chavs allowed" i think its a british term but why does everyone not like them?
As usual, a poorly structured Wikipedia answer can provide you with all the answers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
Carisbrooke
26-08-2006, 17:02
CHAV. I can understand the difficulty that those of you from North America have with this concept, my boyfriend is Canadian and he says that he can't think of anything in Canada that is the same. It is not a thing based on money. they wear a kind of uniform made up of burberry and von dutch and such topped of with a ball cap with the peak pointing to the sky and at the back of the head. It is an attitude and a way of walking and dressing and acting that make you a chav.

It ia not a wealth/class thing, as one poster said its more of a no class at all thing.
Deep Kimchi
26-08-2006, 17:41
http://something-beautiful.org/me/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/chav.jpg
Liberated New Ireland
26-08-2006, 18:52
http://something-beautiful.org/me/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/chav.jpg

So chav is English English for whore, then, eh bruv?
Saige Dragon
26-08-2006, 19:07
I wouldn't really call Chav a culture, more a fashion trend.

Like the Emo's here in North America.;)
Safalra
26-08-2006, 19:12
So chav is English English for whore, then, eh bruv?
Nah, we call them comprehensive schoolgirls...
United Transylvania
26-08-2006, 19:13
Safalra: That's not very true.

Chavs aren't liked because they are the scum of the earth.
Liberated New Ireland
26-08-2006, 19:16
Nah, we call them comprehensive schoolgirls...

I'm just sayin, if a girl dressed like that came onto an American guy, he'd sigh, pull out his wallet, and ask "How much?"
Ifreann
26-08-2006, 19:18
http://something-beautiful.org/me/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/chav.jpg

That accurate to the point that I may be sick.
Safalra
26-08-2006, 19:22
I'm just sayin, if a girl dressed like that came onto an American guy, he'd sigh, pull out his wallet, and ask "How much?"
If I saw her on a Friday night in Torquay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torquay) I wouldn't think anything was unsual; most girls in that age range seem to dress like that when going clubbing. And Torquay isn't known for being particularly chavvy (we call them janners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janner) down here anyway...).
United Transylvania
26-08-2006, 19:23
Has anyone mentioned how they talk yet?
Ifreann
26-08-2006, 19:25
Has anyone mentioned how they talk yet?
They have their own language. It's indeciperable.
LiberationFrequency
26-08-2006, 19:26
Like the Emo's here in North America.;)

Oh, we have those here as well.
Liberated New Ireland
26-08-2006, 19:26
If I saw her on a Friday night in Torquay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torquay) I wouldn't think anything was unsual; most girls in that age range seem to dress like that when going clubbing. And Torquay isn't known for being particularly chavvy (we call them janners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janner) down here anyway...).

Well, if the shirt covered her gut a little more, her skirt covered her thigh a little more, and her hair/jewelery wasn't so garish, then she'd pass for a slut (is there a proper term for that?). People would probably think she was a Valley Girl...

EDIT: Also, less cellulite. Her legs are gross.
United Transylvania
26-08-2006, 19:28
They have their own language. It's indeciperable.
I don't know if it can be called speech. It's more a series of grunts.
Valentinasia
26-08-2006, 19:34
:sniper: Chavs are part of the furniture here in London. They like wearing burberry, baseball caps, they like shiney hub caps, and mostly spend their time sitting on benches, harrasing people.
They need to be terminated.
Valentinasia
26-08-2006, 19:35
:sniper: Chavs are part of the furniture here in London. They like wearing burberry, baseball caps, they like shiney hub caps, and mostly spend their time sitting on benches, harrasing people.
They need to be terminated.
Liberated New Ireland
26-08-2006, 19:37
:sniper: Chavs are part of the furniture here in London. They like wearing burberry, baseball caps, they like shiney hub caps, and mostly spend their time sitting on benches, harrasing people.
They need to be terminated.

Some advice if you plan to stay on the forum: Never use the following emoticons:

:sniper:
:mp5:
:gundge:

Or thou shalt be called a n00b.
Sel Appa
26-08-2006, 20:36
A chav is a british redneck. With extremely cockney accents.

There are certain levels of chavness though, some people may where chavvy clothes (tracksuits, polo necks etc...) but wont be that annoying and act so chavvy.

A lot of the Chavs are really middle class trying to be working class.

I always thought they were more like ghetto people.

It refers to a subcultural stereotype of people fixated on fashions such as flashy "bling" jewelery (Generally fake gold) , and genuine (rarely seen on chavs) or knock-off (more likely to be seen) designer clothing
Maybe ghetto-prep posers?
Rubiconic Crossings
26-08-2006, 20:48
Look up East 17...yeah....the 'band'

Dk's pic is not a chav. Thats a pick of yer normal gel out on the town.

A chav gel looks like this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content/images/2005/08/18/vicky_pollard_203x152.jpg
Deep Kimchi
27-08-2006, 01:00
Look up East 17...yeah....the 'band'

Dk's pic is not a chav. Thats a pick of yer normal gel out on the town.

A chav gel looks like this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content/images/2005/08/18/vicky_pollard_203x152.jpg

Didn't see any "normal gel" that looked like the chav pic I posted at the White Hart or at the Lowlander.

A website dedicated to chavness http://www.chavscum.co.uk/
Rubiconic Crossings
27-08-2006, 01:22
Didn't see any "normal gel" that looked like the chav pic I posted at the White Hart or at the Lowlander.

A website dedicated to chavness http://www.chavscum.co.uk/

What you saw was (and I hate to say this) was yer run of the mill slag. Not a chav.

If you knew what a chav was you'd have used a pic depicting at least some fake Burberry...

My pic is of the character called 'Vicky Pollard' from the so-called comedy series Little Britain. She is representative of the chav culture sans* (that means 'without') Burberry. It is a play on characterisation btw. Of course you knew that didn't you?

*thats a French word so don't go into a melt down!
SHAOLIN9
27-08-2006, 02:11
If any other culture besides Chav culture was being attacked like this on NS everyone would be up in arms ranting about bigotry and respect for other cultures. It seems it's ok to pick on chavs here. Probably because you're all a bunch of gaylords innit?

Nah, it's cos chav's are the only people who DON'T see themselves as chav's!:p
SHAOLIN9
27-08-2006, 02:16
What you saw was (and I hate to say this) was yer run of the mill slag. Not a chav.

If you knew what a chav was you'd have used a pic depicting at least some fake Burberry...

Quoted for truth!

Oh, and around Essex way it's all about modded Citroen Saxo's, which makes me hate the car even more than I originally did :p
Darknovae
27-08-2006, 02:18
So basically a Chav is a British ghetto poser?
SHAOLIN9
27-08-2006, 02:20
So basically a Chav is a British ghetto poser?

Basically yes.
Darknovae
27-08-2006, 02:21
Basically yes.

Alrighty then. :)
Surf Shack
27-08-2006, 02:21
So, that's what you call the people around the world who decided to imitate American rappers!

We call them "wiggers" and "gangsta-wangstas" or just "gangstas".

Their strength lies in numbers or the possession of firearms and the sheer stupidity to use them over a bar fight. Important to remember is that they can't fight, although they posture constantly. However, actually taking them on in a fair fight is not smart, because they will come back and find you with their buddies after you beat the crap out of them. And if you slap their buddies around too, they'll go for weapons. They're like trolls, that way...
Rubiconic Crossings
27-08-2006, 02:30
So, that's what you call the people around the world who decided to imitate American rappers!

We call them "wiggers" and "gangsta-wangstas" or just "gangstas".

Their strength lies in numbers or the possession of firearms and the sheer stupidity to use them over a bar fight. Important to remember is that they can't fight, although they posture constantly. However, actually taking them on in a fair fight is not smart, because they will come back and find you with their buddies after you beat the crap out of them. And if you slap their buddies around too, they'll go for weapons. They're like trolls, that way...

I think the term yer looking for is wannabees :)
SHAOLIN9
27-08-2006, 02:30
So, that's what you call the people around the world who decided to imitate American rappers!

We call them "wiggers" and "gangsta-wangstas" or just "gangstas".

Their strength lies in numbers or the possession of firearms and the sheer stupidity to use them over a bar fight. Important to remember is that they can't fight, although they posture constantly. However, actually taking them on in a fair fight is not smart, because they will come back and find you with their buddies after you beat the crap out of them. And if you slap their buddies around too, they'll go for weapons. They're like trolls, that way...


It's kinda but not exactly like the wiggas, chav's are all about tracksuits and fake gold/burberry shagging around and causing trouble. They do tend to hang around in gangs though and listen to hip-hop so kinda. And yes, I've never seen a chav who isn't white.

You really have to meet them to understand fully. I say meet, what I mean is walk past, point and laugh :p
Surf Shack
27-08-2006, 02:37
It's kinda but not exactly like the wiggas, chav's are all about tracksuits and fake gold/burberry shagging around and causing trouble. They do tend to hang around in gangs though and listen to hip-hop so kinda. And yes, I've never seen a chav who isn't white.

You really have to meet them to understand fully. I say meet, what I mean is walk past, point and laugh :p

ROFL
These guys just sound funnier the more you describe them.
SHAOLIN9
27-08-2006, 02:41
ROFL
These guys just sound funnier the more you describe them.

Well they make me laugh so I guess they're funny! The urban dictionary post on the first page of this thread says it all really!!! ;)
Checklandia
27-08-2006, 02:41
i keep going into regions and seeing"no chavs allowed" i think its a british term but why does everyone not like them?

cos theyre chavs,and everyone hates chavs, especially me.
Theyre usually girls/boys between 12 and 15(but you get them older and younger)they usually talk like they havent learn english, only slang, they say words like bare toy mean loads, say like a lot(eg, went over teh shop,like,and saw ayleesha,like)they wear lots of 'bling' somethink they are gangster.They wear track suits or burberry, baseball caps, and other general chavery.The girls usually get pregnant at 14, and both sexes enjoy mindless shouting/abuse/violence/drinking.
hate them.
Rubiconic Crossings
27-08-2006, 02:42
ROFL
These guys just sound funnier the more you describe them.

times that by about 10k and you'll be in close....Brian Harvey...East 17 singer...

In May 2005, after being diagnosed with clinical depression, Harvey apparently took a number of overdoses of sleeping tablets and was hospitalised. On 31 May 2005, he was readmitted to hospital in a critical condition after doing the un-doable - according to his PR - "he fell under the wheels of his Mercedes Benz motor car, whilst driving" - of this incident Harvey explained, '"I was starving so I baked three jacket potatoes and stuffed them down. They were big. I put cheese on, then tuna mayonnaise and I ate the lot.' Then driving to a friend's house he felt sick, so opened his car door to be vomit. It was at this moment he fell out the car and under its wheels. After his recovery Harvey claimed, 'I haven't had a jacket potato since. I could never eat them again'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Harvey
Surf Shack
27-08-2006, 02:59
After his recovery Harvey claimed, 'I haven't had a jacket potato since. I could never eat them again'[/i]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Harvey

:eek:

I've gotta say, I'm speechless. People look up to this friggin moron? I mean, he actually makes money?
*Punches wall, wondering why he didn't become more of a dipshit so he could be rich.
Rubiconic Crossings
27-08-2006, 03:02
:eek:

I've gotta say, I'm speechless. People look up to this friggin moron? I mean, he actually makes money?
*Punches wall, wondering why he didn't become more of a dipshit so he could be rich.

Made money...nowadays he's a laughing stock...
Surf Shack
27-08-2006, 03:05
Made money...nowadays he's a laughing stock...

Well, he ran himself over. I hope so.
Rubiconic Crossings
27-08-2006, 03:16
Well, he ran himself over. I hope so.

damn straight!

Well I laughed me arse off anyway :)

ummm.....re yer going to you know where...have you read me reply? a tad harsh but am happy to talk...