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Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:

I have kids (yeah, we all know that) and I wouldn't trade them for anything (we know that too)

I think you would be a good mom, but only if you realize that kids are a 100% of the time pain in the ass if you want to do just about anything but run around after them.........until they are about 14, then they are a 100% of the time pain in the ass because you can't run around after them.

I don't want kids. I never really liked them much.... They're curious and I'm pretty secretive... so it doesn't work well

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:
Reply to your own post, whydoncha!?:p

I have kids (yeah, we all know that) and I wouldn't trade them for anything (we know that too)

I think you would be a good mom, but only if you realize that kids are a 100% of the time pain in the ass if you want to do just about anything but run around after them.........until they are about 14, then they are a 100% of the time pain in the ass because you can't run around after them.


Yeah, we all know ;) :)

I'm just confused because I'm not really what you would call a "mommy"-type... or maybe I am an I was just kidding myself???

And why do I suddenly even consider that, after thinking for all those years that kids are out of the question?

Reply to your own post, whydoncha!?:p

Huh? :confused:

Children are worth the hassle. A child's job, of course, is to test that theory. :p

Huh? :confused:
You shouldn't be asking us. You should be asking yourself.;)
And that's really what you're doing here. You're asking yourself on the pretext that you want others' opinions, and while you might value those, that isn't truly your purpose.

tell him you are open to the possibility but you arent yearning for children right now. no sense giving him the impression that you want to marry him for his sperm. (not that you should give him the impression that you want to marry him yet.)

try hanging around with some 0-5 year olds. if you dont find them completely endearing, you probably shouldnt have kids any time soon. if you do, try to arrange some kind of babysitting thing where you have to care for them overnight at least. that can convince you that endearing isnt all its cracked up to be.

if you still want kids after that, go for it. there are more good times than bad with kids (although the bad times can be terrifying).

Yeah, we all know ;) :)
I can't help it, my kids are way too cool.

I'm just confused because I'm not really what you would call a "mommy"-type... or maybe I am an I was just kidding myself???
you are not the cheesy pink chenille sweater soccer mom type, but you are an intelligent and caring person, who would be a great mom based on the fact that you would love the kid enough to nurture them in any way possible if only because you wanted to help them become whomever they wanted to be.

And why do I suddenly even consider that, after thinking for all those years that kids are out of the question?
hormones?

You could say I'm looking for advise and opinions to help me make up my mind. ;)
I could, but I don't think that's it. I think you're looking for someone else to say the words you can't find within yourself.

You shouldn't be asking us. You should be asking yourself.;)
And that's really what you're doing here. You're asking yourself on the pretext that you want others' opinions, and while you might value those, that isn't truly your purpose.

You could say I'm looking for advise and opinions to help me make up my mind. ;)

*shakes fist at time warp*:mad:

Yeah, we all know ;) :)

I'm just confused because I'm not really what you would call a "mommy"-type... or maybe I am an I was just kidding myself???

And why do I suddenly even consider that, after thinking for all those years that kids are out of the question?
Never underestimate the power of Biological Imperative ;)

Piercing insight 4tehwin!!@1
It's my specialty.:D:cool:

You shouldn't be asking us. You should be asking yourself.;)
And that's really what you're doing here. You're asking yourself on the pretext that you want others' opinions, and while you might value those, that isn't truly your purpose.
Piercing insight 4tehwin!!@1

I have kids (yeah, we all know that) and I wouldn't trade them for anything (we know that too)

Not even for cookies? :confused:

Me, I might like a little Lerkistania one day. But not in the next decade, that's for sure.

Question:
And why do I suddenly even consider that, after thinking for all those years that kids are out of the question?
Answer:
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) )
It suddenly seems feasible in a way, not as far fetched anymore.


As for if you want kids or not - we wouldn't know, obviously.

I don't want kids. I've never been one to go all crazy and cooing about children, and two of my best friends have kids now, and yeah, they're cute and stuff, yawn, but I can't tell you how much they drive me crazy when I'm at my friends', and how much I'm glad that I can go home to have some quiet and some alone time, and don't have to care for someone literally 24/7.

I'm not a very egotistical person, but I'm way too egotistical for kids. Oh my God. I'd give them up for adoption after a week, tops. :p

But of course I don't have a relationship with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy, so if I ever do, then who knows... ;)

tell him you are open to the possibility but you arent yearning for children right now. no sense giving him the impression that you want to marry him for his sperm. (not that you should give him the impression that you want to marry him yet.)

try hanging around with some 0-5 year olds. if you dont find them completely endearing, you probably shouldnt have kids any time soon. if you do, try to arrange some kind of babysitting thing where you have to care for them overnight at least. that can convince you that endearing isnt all its cracked up to be.

if you still want kids after that, go for it. there are more good times than bad with kids (although the bad times can be terrifying).

See, that's why I always thought kids just aren't for me. I don't mind little ones, but I don't find them "endearing". I've always loved teenagers, though. Odd, I know, but I just get along with them brilliantly..

I don't want kids. I've never been one to go all crazy and cooing about children, and two of my best friends have kids now, and yeah, they're cute and stuff, yawn, but I can't tell you how much they drive me crazy when I'm at my friends', and how much I'm glad that I can go home to have some quiet and some alone time, and don't have to care for someone literally 24/7.

I'm not a very egotistical person, but I'm way too egotistical for kids. Oh my God. I'd give them up for adoption after a week, tops. :p


About 6 months ago, those would have been my exact words... I'm just not so sure any more.
I guess I still have a couple of years to decide the matter, luckily. :D

It's my specialty.:D:cool:
No, based on the majority of your posts, your specialities are smilies, spam, and smilies with spam ;)

No, based on the majority of your posts, your specialities are smilies, spam, and smilies with spam ;)
ROFLMFAO!! Yes, this is true....but I'm a man of many talents.;)

tell him you are open to the possibility but you arent yearning for children right now. no sense giving him the impression that you want to marry him for his sperm. (not that you should give him the impression that you want to marry him yet.)

try hanging around with some 0-5 year olds. if you dont find them completely endearing, you probably shouldnt have kids any time soon. if you do, try to arrange some kind of babysitting thing where you have to care for them overnight at least. that can convince you that endearing isnt all its cracked up to be.

if you still want kids after that, go for it. there are more good times than bad with kids (although the bad times can be terrifying).

I had a professor once who had a baby during the year (near Christmas, actually). She talked about the fact that many people love to hold infants, but want to hand them back when they start crying. She said you know you're ready to have a child of your own when you don't want to hand them back to their parents even after they start crying/throwing a tantrum/etc.

Problem is, I've never wanted to hand a child back to their parents - even when I was waaaaay too young to even think about having kids. =)

It's hard for me to imagine not wanting kids, but I wouldn't worry too terribly much about it at this point, Cabra. Your scare got you thinking about what you do and don't want, and I don't think it's all that odd that it has you considering something that you might not have before. I've always said that none of us know how we'll react to an unplanned pregnancy until it actually happens - and I still think that's true. A pregnancy scare, however, can really get you thinking about it.

Yeah, I'd love to have my own kids one day. http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/baby.gif

Problem is - takes two to get that started http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/over18.gif and somehow I don't see how that is going to happen any time soon :( *sobs*

Kids are great (when they're not your own)
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/mama.gif
Kids are the greatest (when they're your own).

And toddlers? Wahnsinn! :D
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/baby2.gif

you are not the cheesy pink chenille sweater soccer mom type, but you are an intelligent and caring person, who would be a great mom based on the fact that you would love the kid enough to nurture them in any way possible if only because you wanted to help them become whomever they wanted to be.

I think the problem about if someone's going to be a good parent or not can only be answerd once they do have kids. At which point it might be too late... and I have to decide if I want to take that risk. Well, not tonight, but in the foreseeable future...


hormones?

Good guess... :D

See, that's why I always thought kids just aren't for me. I don't mind little ones, but I don't find them "endearing". I've always loved teenagers, though. Odd, I know, but I just get along with them brilliantly..

Maybe you could get a deal with some other parents. There must be some out there who would like to get rid of their teenagers, and both parties would be happy :)

Jesses, stick with your ideas! I'm in no position to tell you whether you want a Kniebeißer or not, but in case you feel like you do in the end, go ahead and adopt an endearing underpriviledged one, why don't you?

I think the problem about if someone's going to be a good parent or not can only be answerd once they do have kids. At which point it might be too late... and I have to decide if I want to take that risk. Well, not tonight, but in the foreseeable future...
some people have potential and some don't, I see potential in you. ;)



Good guess... :D
that's almost always what causes it for me:p

Jesses, stick with your ideas! I'm in no position to tell you whether you want a Kniebeißer or not, but in case you feel like you do in the end, go ahead and adopt an endearing underpriviledged one, why don't you?
Kniebeißer? Nice. :p (that's "knee biter" in English, to inject some international politeness into this)

Kniebeißer? Nice. :p (that's "knee biter" in English, to inject some international politeness into this)
Don't our Anglicized folks have 'ankle biters', or were those the dogs?

P.S. International politeness, my rectum. That's what I have people like you for, but I'm surely not gonna stoop to that level myself. ;)

Don't our Anglicized folks have 'ankle biters', or were those the dogs?

They've got rugrats... Teppichratten :D

some people have potential and some don't, I see potential in you. ;)
Hmm, that gives me an idea for a thread....

Sorry, Cabra, just wanted to let Smunkee know she should expect a TG in a bit while my post that travelled in time to before yours is ignored.;):(

They've got rugrats... Teppichratten :D
Gotta love that. But, but, I OneLooked it, and ankle-biters is okay! *sobs*

Don't our Anglicized folks have 'ankle biters', or were those the dogs?
Kniebeisser has more je ne sais quoi ;)

See, that's why I always thought kids just aren't for me. I don't mind little ones, but I don't find them "endearing". I've always loved teenagers, though. Odd, I know, but I just get along with them brilliantly..
i never liked babies until i had one. now i love babies.

if you really dont like babies, that first 2 years would be HELL. they are noisy, messy, demanding. you cant do anything you really want to do because if you take your attention too far away from the baby she will crawl under the kitchen sink and eat the drano. its extremely demanding and stressful. only your love and delight gets you through it.

you might be able to adopt a 10 year old but it will be a tough ride.

I heard children go well with a nice Chianti.

Kniebeisser has more je ne sais quoi ;)
Oh vraiment?

To be on-topic: I'd be rather careful with all this "be around kids and see whether you like it" sorta advice because
a) that's NO indication as to what it'll be like once you have them 24/7
b) rumor has it that all these hormones and shit kick in and you suddenly, you know, madly love that stupid, stinking..rugrat, if you know w hat I mean, even if you hated them before. Crazy, that.

I heard children go well with a nice Chianti.
Drowning? Yeah, I fancy that method to deal with kids, too. Just kidding, in case anybody actually did wonder.

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:
Thats weird...ya know, I always thought that the Irish laid eggs.:confused:

I heard children go well with a nice Chianti.
And Cabra beans? ;)

And Cabra beans? ;)

Beans do not go well with children. Rather messy results, I'm afraid.

And Cabra beans? ;)

Cabra... what, now??? :eek:

Thats weird...ya know, I always thought that the Irish laid eggs.:confused:
She's not quite Irish.;)

I don't like children in general, but I think I'd get on okay with my own kids. Just to be sure, I don't plan on having any for a while.

Cabra... what, now??? :eek:
"Cabra" 'stead of "fava" . . .

Beans do not go well with children. Rather messy results, I'm afraid.
It depends on how they are cooked.

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:

It depends upon how self centered you are and how much love you have to give. Not enough love or too self centered and kids are not for you. Otherwise, yes, they will add rather than subtract from the quality of your life.

It depends upon how self centered you are and how much love you have to give. Not enough love or too self centered and kids are not for you. Otherwise, yes, they will add rather than subtract from the quality of your life.
Mathematically, I think children send your life off in such a completely other direction that a scalar cannot be meaningfully applied. The absolute value of quality is measured in an entirely other dimension.

She's not quite Irish.;)
So..what you're trying to say is.....



Germans lay eggs?:confused:

So..what you're trying to say is.....



Germans lay eggs?:confused:
Well, WYTYG did have a thread moved to spam, recently. Although, there are those for whom this is an accomplishment . . .

It depends on how they are cooked.
Cook them in a pint of fear....oh, you meant the beans.....
>.>
<.<
*flees*

So..what you're trying to say is.....



Germans lay eggs?:confused:


Only easter eggs.

So..what you're trying to say is.....



Germans lay eggs?:confused:
Yes, but so do all women really, in a sense....

Cook them in a pint of fear....oh, you meant the beans.....
>.>
<.<
*flees*
uh........you have a TG of importance.

uh........you have a TG of importance.
Curious. I was certain that was you.:p

I want kids..

But you know.. not enough coffee in the world..

That old chesnut.

Well, WYTYG did have a thread moved to spam, recently.
o.O But not for laying eggs! :confused:

o.O But not for laying eggs! :confused:
"to lay an egg" is idiomatic for "to do badly."

"to lay an egg" is idiomatic for "to do badly."
Oh. I know that, but wouldn't have made the connection in a hundred years. *feels stupid*

Oh. I know that, but wouldn't have made the connection in a hundred years. *feels stupid*
I'm just warped.

I sure as hell would never have kids.

A. Waste of time
B. Waste of money

Unless your Indian, then kids are insurance for your later years.

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:if you really want to know if you do want kids... try either 1) babysitting for long periods of time, say parents need to go somewhere for the weekend.
or 2) Volunteer at a child care somewhere... and go there everyday.

that answered my question really quickly!

This thread cries out for a poll

My Cabra is considering having babies?

Well, for one the little ankle biters are definitely hard work. There's the whole process of bringing them into this world, which let's just say, while it can be great getting a kid started, the rest is just inhumane. Once the kid is born you have to try and keep the little bugger from killing him/herself. If you manage to be successful at that, then you have to prevent yourself from killing the child.

It gets better when they're teenagers -at least that's what I keep telling myself about my 11-year old. After all they can't all be like me in my teenage years. :rolleyes:

They cost quite a bit and, even if you sell them, you'll never get back what you invested.

But are they worth it? Absolutely, without a doubt 99% yes! The remaining 1% is reserved for if I survive the teenage years without having to be institutionalized.

Sounds like you are ready to me. As long as you will have plenty of time to actually parent that is.

So many others have kids and then hand them off to babysitters. :(

Sounds like you are ready to me. As long as you will have plenty of time to actually parent that is.

So many others have kids and then hand them off to babysitters. :(
or most use the babysitter (a.k.a Television) that's already in the house. :(

Sounds like you are ready to me. As long as you will have plenty of time to actually parent that is.

So many others have kids and then hand them off to babysitters. :(

No, that's something I'd definitely not do.
Not that I wouldn't drop the little rugrat of to a babysitter for an evening out now and then, but I would not do that on a daily basis. Which, in turn, requires that I'm in a financial situation that allows for either me or my (assumed) partner to stay at home.... there's just so many ifs and buts.

My Cabra is considering having babies?

Well, for one the little ankle biters are definitely hard work. There's the whole process of bringing them into this world, which let's just say, while it can be great getting a kid started, the rest is just inhumane. Once the kid is born you have to try and keep the little bugger from killing him/herself. If you manage to be successful at that, then you have to prevent yourself from killing the child.

It gets better when they're teenagers -at least that's what I keep telling myself about my 11-year old. After all they can't all be like me in my teenage years. :rolleyes:

They cost quite a bit and, even if you sell them, you'll never get back what you invested.

But are they worth it? Absolutely, without a doubt 99% yes! The remaining 1% is reserved for if I survive the teenage years without having to be institutionalized.

:fluffle:

Considering, yes. Planning, no. Not yet, in any case. And most of the advise I got so far seems to imply I'm in no way ready yet. I'm not totally crazy about all those little pinkfaced pukers and I can in fact resist the urge to change nappies on every baby I come across....

:fluffle:

Considering, yes. Planning, no. Not yet, in any case. And most of the advise I got so far seems to imply I'm in no way ready yet. I'm not totally crazy about all those little pinkfaced pukers and I can in fact resist the urge to change nappies on every baby I come across....

:fluffle: back at you!

I thought everyone adored projectile vomit and changing abnormally stinky nappies (I love that word!).

I honestly wonder at how things so little can produce so much puke and poop and still be considered "cute".

:fluffle: back at you!

I thought everyone adored projectile vomit and changing abnormally stinky nappies (I love that word!).

I honestly wonder at how things so little can produce so much puke and poop and still be considered "cute".
It's a defense mechanism to stop the species eradicating itself.

It's a defense mechanism to stop the species eradicating itself.

If only we could see through the subterfuge. The more I think about it the more it seems like babies have some form of mind control to prevent us from realizing their true nature.

If only we could see through the subterfuge. The more I think about it the more it seems like babies have some form of mind control to prevent us from realizing their true nature.
They don't have me fooled. I'll do just fine without them. Of course, I'd have to have a partner for that anyway, and that looks like it'll be a very long while in coming as well....so that isn't an option anyway.

If only we could see through the subterfuge. The more I think about it the more it seems like babies have some form of mind control to prevent us from realizing their true nature.

Well, up until a few months ago, I could look right through their mind control and see just how much pointless work those little stinkers are.... what's happening to me? Why do I even consider that all of a sudden? I'm scared!

Well, up until a few months ago, I could look right through their mind control and see just how much pointless work those little stinkers are.... what's happening to me? Why do I even consider that all of a sudden? I'm scared!
Hah! I still have that X-ray vision. Muahahahaaaa.

Other peoples kids are totally better.

If they're rotten little bastards, it's not your fault. And an excuse to bail when needed.

You're never the one who send them to thier room, you're the one who smuggles them candy and lets them shoot the BB gun when mom isn't looking.

When they're showing you thier toys and you know what they're called already, you are GOD!

You never have to clean up after them in any capacity.

When they're a drag you're not a bad person for bailing on them.

You can buy them toys that really you want to play with and not have to fret about whether or not you're spoiling them

You should convince other to have kids.

or most use the babysitter (a.k.a Television) that's already in the house. :(

Agreed but... TV does occupy kids SOOOOOO well. ;)

Mathematically, I think children send your life off in such a completely other direction that a scalar cannot be meaningfully applied. The absolute value of quality is measured in an entirely other dimension.

You are probably right. But by the time the nine months gestation and wildy out of control hormonal rollercoaster and newness of having a child has passed she wouldnt be able to accurately remember the time before having a child anyway. It's a bit late at that point anyway and even if it isnt measurably higher quality life it is definitely still a good quality life that seems on the surface more meaningful.

Hah! I still have that X-ray vision. Muahahahaaaa.

Oh, don't worry. They're coming for you, too, and when they.....*gets tossed in a burlap sack and dragged off*

Oh, don't worry. They're coming for you, too, and when they.....*gets tossed in a burlap sack and dragged off*

By babies? :eek:

Agreed but... TV does occupy kids SOOOOOO well. ;)

That's not a good thing. Teach them to read. To think. Don't just sit them down in front of that monstrosity.

By babies? :eek:

Erm....yes?:p

Trust my first-hand experience: they're tricksy, devious little buggers. ;)

That's not a good thing. Teach them to read. To think. Don't just sit them down in front of that monstrosity.

I totally agree. It might take a bit of effort, but they'll thank you for it.

If/ when I have kids, they're not having a TV and computer access will be limited, as much as possible.

I totally agree. It might take a bit of effort, but they'll thank you for it.

If/ when I have kids, they're not having a TV and computer access will be limited, as much as possible.

Yep. No television....but maybe an occasional movie. Definitely not a regular occurence. I want them to turn out more like me if I have any.;):p

By babies? :eek:you've never seen them twist their fathers around their little finger... *shudders*

That's not a good thing. Teach them to read. To think. Don't just sit them down in front of that monstrosity.

it depends on what you're showing. there are a series of DVD/Tapes called Baby [insert composer] which are nothing but soothing classical music.

also the School house Rock series is pretty good.

it depends on what you're showing. there are a series of DVD/Tapes called Baby [insert composer] which are nothing but soothing classical music.

also the School house Rock series is pretty good.

Eh...that's great....How about CD's and a little more parental involvement in education instead? It's silly to use those for what should be done by a parent. They'll get enough of that in grade school.

Eh...that's great....How about CD's and a little more parental involvement in education instead? It's silly to use those for what should be done by a parent. They'll get enough of that in grade school.
I didn't say not having parental involvement. like everything, Television needs to be used with responsiblity.

Go ahead and squirt a twerp out. If the worst case scenario happens and you decide you don't want it, a healthy caucasian baby can sell on the black market for between $120,000 and $200,000 US.

Go ahead and squirt a twerp out. If the worst case scenario happens and you decide you don't want it, a healthy caucasian baby can sell on the black market for between $120,000 and $200,000 US.:p "Squirt a twerp out"

considering the fact that most mothers describe birthing as "Passing a bowling ball" would $200,000 be worth it?

:p "Squirt a twerp out"

considering the fact that most mothers describe birthing as "Passing a bowling ball" would $200,000 be worth it?

Absolutely. Plus, if it's a boy, you can slap on another $50,000 easy because of its gender.

I didn't say not having parental involvement. like everything, Television needs to be used with responsiblity.

Of course. But once you introduce the television, it becomes too easy to simply let it take over the parenting. And I don't think it really makes a very good instructional tool at that age.

Of course. But once you introduce the television, it becomes too easy to simply let it take over the parenting. And I don't think it really makes a very good instructional tool at that age.

hence Parental Responsiblity... ;)

hence Parental Responsiblity... ;)

Rrrriiight. But if it isn't useful, it wouldn't be very parentally sound to use it anyway.....And most parents don't really understand why programming really isn't that good....

I never used to want to have children, but now I believe you will when you find the right man. It's all about timing, I suppose.

I never used to want to have children, but now I believe you will when you find the right man. It's all about timing, I suppose.

How does that work for guys?:p

How does that work for guys?:p

Guys will want a child when they find the right woman.

Guys will want a child when they find the right woman.

LOL I was hoping for a sarcastic quip. Have any of those laying around?:p

Rrrriiight. But if it isn't useful, it wouldn't be very parentally sound to use it anyway.....And most parents don't really understand why programming really isn't that good....

Eh?

Have them watch food channel and travel channel then..

Eh?

Have them watch food channel and travel channel then..

Too young. They have more important things they could be doing. Things they could actually learn.:p

LOL I was hoping for a sarcastic quip. Have any of those laying around?:p

I'm saving them for a post that's worth it. :p

I'm saving them for a post that's worth it. :p

Sorry, we're closed for renovation right now. You'll just have to wait an eternity or two for that.:p

Too young. They have more important things they could be doing. Things they could actually learn.:p

Too young?!

You're calling Alton Brown "adult content"?!
Probably not..*shrugs*

Cooking is something I will be teaching my kids.

*uses you as an example*

So they can cook for their dates! :p

Too young?!

You're calling Alton Brown "adult content"?!
Probably not..*shrugs*

Cooking is something I will be teaching my kids.

*uses you as an example*

So they can cook for their dates! :p

I didn't say it was adult content, but i've never seen a two-year-old who could see the top of a stove...or the counter, for that matter. So cooking has to wait anyway.

Sorry, we're closed for renovation right now. You'll just have to wait an eternity or two for that.:p

Bahahahahaha, okay I'll just pull one out when I don't have a hangover.

Bahahahahaha, okay I'll just pull one out when I don't have a hangover.

Good to know those'll never see the light of day.:D

I didn't say it was adult content, but i've never seen a two-year-old who could see the top of a stove...or the counter, for that matter. So cooking has to wait anyway.

Pfft!

Fine, them I'll teach them how to drink..

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:


Dont fight with your nature to spread your genes. Noone will remember you in 100 years but at least you will have some sorta continueity if you spread them...I mean genes :D

Dont fight with your nature to spread your genes. Noone will remember you in 100 years but at least you will have some sorta continueity if you spread them...I mean genes :D

Oh dear... THAT actually was one of the reasons why I DIDN'T want kids. Those genes don't deserve to be spread.
Maybe I ought to go for adoption.

I don't want kids because they'll probably turn out like me.... I have enough trouble putting up with one of me sometimes. Also looking at it realistically, it isn't happening anytime soon.

Pfft!

Fine, them I'll teach them how to drink..

Eh, that's probably a bad idea...

Eh, that's probably a bad idea...

I think it's a good idea. They need to know how to drink to stay alive, don't they? ;)

Oh, and if you're talking just about alcohol, I think it's best if the parents teach their kids how to best handle that.

Oh dear... THAT actually was one of the reasons why I DIDN'T want kids. Those genes don't deserve to be spread.
Maybe I ought to go for adoption.

Pfft! There's nothing wrong with your genes! Spread them all you like.;)

Eh, that's probably a bad idea...
It's either that, or teach them how to make herion.

I think it's a good idea. They need to know how to drink to stay alive, don't they? ;)

Oh, and if you're talking just about alcohol, I think it's best if the parents teach their kids how to best handle that.

No, they know how to drink on their own, so no instruction is necessary.

If it was indeed alcohol....well, that's for when they're older. I'm still talking small children.

It's either that, or teach them how to make herion.

Herion, eh? You'd have to concoct it yourself first.:p

Herion, eh? You'd have to concoct it yourself first.:p

I'm sure wiki has a recipe.

I'm sure wiki has a recipe.

For heroin, probably. For herion, no.:p

For heroin, probably. For herion, no.:p

Gah! Shut up!

No, they know how to drink on their own, so no instruction is necessary.

If it was indeed alcohol....well, that's for when they're older. I'm still talking small children.

So am I. I can't even remember when I got my first sip of beer, I was too young. My granny would always put egg-cups of beer on the dinner table for us kids.

If it's not vilified, much of the attraction wll automatically disappear. :)

Pfft! There's nothing wrong with your genes! Spread them all you like.;)

*lol
What do you know about my genes, then?

I didn't say it was adult content, but i've never seen a two-year-old who could see the top of a stove...or the counter, for that matter. So cooking has to wait anyway.http://smilies.vidahost.com/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif
while 2 year olds may be a tad young for working the stove, there are things they can do to help around the kitchen...

as for kids cooking... In Japan, they had a program called "People's Champions" where viewers would send in their suggestions for what kind of contests they want to see... like "Strongest Lungs in Japan" or "Best Hairdresser" One I saw was "Kids Cooking III" where kids 12 and under were doing like an "Iron Cheif" like thing... but not so frantic. these kids were cooking stews, curries, Sushi...

One even created an intersting dish when she poured Coke, soda mind you, into the rice cooker and made some sweet, black-colored, rice that she then rolled into rice balls and filled them with roasted nuts. the Judges, some of the more famous critics and chefs of japan were surprised at the taste of that.

I had to keep telling myself, these were kids... younger than 13 years old... cooking dishes *I* have trouble cooking now!

If I ever had kids, I would eat them as soon as they were born so they could never kill or hurt me in the future.

*lol
What do you know about my genes, then?

I wanna see you in your Jeans! :D or better yet, getting out of your jeans! http://img227.exs.cx/img227/8438/pimp4tq.gif


what? *re-reads* oh... :(

Children to me are filthy little things delighting in the naivety that so many want yet not sharing it, and whose purpose is to strain the adults and create discontent among people.

If I ever had kids, I would eat them as soon as they were born so they could never kill or hurt me in the future.

Are you familiar with the Greek Titan Cronus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus

Are you familiar with the Greek Titan Cronus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus

Where do you think I got such a great plan? :cool:

I wanna see you in your Jeans! :D or better yet, getting out of your jeans! http://img227.exs.cx/img227/8438/pimp4tq.gif


what? *re-reads* oh... :(

You could actually, in a minute, when I'm going to take a bath. ;)

Theoretically.

You could actually, in a minute, when I'm going to take a bath. ;)

Theoretically.

I just realized your name is "Cabra West" and not "Cobra West". :eek:

I just realized your name is "Cabra West" and not "Cobra West". :eek:

Amazing. I bet it changes your whole opinion of me, doesn't it? :p ;)

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:

I think you'd make good mom but I also agree with whoever said you should hang around babies and young children for awhile to see if you are ready for t just yet. If not now I'm sure you will be someday, especially since you have found a good daddy. :)

Children? Hell, no. It's taken me years to get things arranged the way I like 'em. Why ruin it all now by having kids?

You could actually, in a minute, when I'm going to take a bath. ;)

Theoretically.

kewl... wait a min... damn, someone broke the remote camera I planted in yo... err... I mean... damn, something else to fantazise about...

kewl... wait a min... damn, someone broke the remote camera I planted in yo... err... I mean... damn, something else to fantazise about...

Probably was just steamed over ... hehe...

Gah! Shut up!

LOL I win!:p I love being a Grammarian.
*too lazy to post the flag*

So am I. I can't even remember when I got my first sip of beer, I was too young. My granny would always put egg-cups of beer on the dinner table for us kids.

If it's not vilified, much of the attraction wll automatically disappear. :)

Yes, but you're German. You don't count.:p And knowing Ruffy, he'd start 'em out on the hard liquor. *thinks Jello Shots* :D:p

I'm not saying it should be villified, just not given to them in baby bottles.

*lol
What do you know about my genes, then?

They're tasty.;):p

http://smilies.vidahost.com/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif
while 2 year olds may be a tad young for working the stove, there are things they can do to help around the kitchen...

as for kids cooking... In Japan, they had a program called "People's Champions" where viewers would send in their suggestions for what kind of contests they want to see... like "Strongest Lungs in Japan" or "Best Hairdresser" One I saw was "Kids Cooking III" where kids 12 and under were doing like an "Iron Cheif" like thing... but not so frantic. these kids were cooking stews, curries, Sushi...

One even created an intersting dish when she poured Coke, soda mind you, into the rice cooker and made some sweet, black-colored, rice that she then rolled into rice balls and filled them with roasted nuts. the Judges, some of the more famous critics and chefs of japan were surprised at the taste of that.

I had to keep telling myself, these were kids... younger than 13 years old... cooking dishes *I* have trouble cooking now!

Yes, but let's point out that the Japanese are absolutely "fuckin' nuts.":p They'll make a gameshow out of literally anything. :rolleyes:

And I never said they couldn't help in the kitchen. My little siblings help a lot, in the kitchen and other places, but I was talking about full cooking. A bit much for really young children. Let's keep in mind that's the age context I'm thinking.;)

Probably was just steamed over ... hehe...

Oh, yeah. Sorry about that. :cool:

They're tasty.;):p


Right now, they'd taste of strawberry *nods

Right now, they'd taste of strawberry *nods

*quivers* Oh my...that's actually the taste I prefer!:eek: *swoons*

*quivers* Oh my...that's actually the taste I prefer!:eek: *swoons*

You prefer strawberry-flavoured genes? *lol

Strawberry.. genes.. genes.. DNA.. OH!

In science class a few years ago, we extracted DNA from strawberries.

Hey, school starts in a few hours, and my mp3 player only has 78 songs on it..

What type of music shall I add?

[/uber random]

You prefer strawberry-flavoured genes? *lol

Oh, I do; I most certainly do. Maybe I'll demonstrate on you my passion for them sometime.;):D

There maybe too many people on the planet but we need more New Zealanders, there just aren't enough!
:(
*Rapes Pillages and burns!*
Just like the Khan!

I just realized your name is "Cabra West" and not "Cobra West". :eek:

Amazing. I bet it changes your whole opinion of me, doesn't it? :p ;)
I never imagined Cobra West...
Mmmm Adder.......

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:

Why dont you let the relationship work a little first? Kids-and talk of them, will just ruin it. Have fun, get to know each other, become part of each other's lives.

No offense- you dont seem like the type to have kids to me, for now.

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:

I don't think you can rush to answer this kind of question. It sounds like you don't want kids at the moment, but you are aware that your feelings may change with time. Nothing wrong with that. There's not really any way to know how you are going to feel in the future.

It's also possible that you are the kind of person who could be happy either way. Maybe you could be perfectly happy never having kids, and you could also be perfectly happy if you did have kids. I think a lot of people are like that, but there's so much pressure to make babies that most people end up choosing that route if it is open to them.

If you're a woman, the issue gets even more muddled because of the number of people who tell you that your purpose in life is to have babies. You may end up second-guessing yourself a lot; "Do I really want kids for my own reasons, or am I just subconsciously giving in to all the pressure?" Or, "Do I really want to NOT have kids for my own reasons, or am I just trying to rebel against all the traditionalist malarky?"

I don't think you can rush to answer this kind of question. It sounds like you don't want kids at the moment, but you are aware that your feelings may change with time. Nothing wrong with that. There's not really any way to know how you are going to feel in the future.

It's also possible that you are the kind of person who could be happy either way. Maybe you could be perfectly happy never having kids, and you could also be perfectly happy if you did have kids. I think a lot of people are like that, but there's so much pressure to make babies that most people end up choosing that route if it is open to them.

If you're a woman, the issue gets even more muddled because of the number of people who tell you that your purpose in life is to have babies. You may end up second-guessing yourself a lot; "Do I really want kids for my own reasons, or am I just subconsciously giving in to all the pressure?" Or, "Do I really want to NOT have kids for my own reasons, or am I just trying to rebel against all the traditionalist malarky?"

And that uncertainty indicates an immediate notion that the woman doing the questioning may not quite be ready. Of course, an unplanned pregnancy could change that....But even so, uncertainty about one's condition to cope with children isn't a healthy time to have them. Frankly, I don't think a woman in such an uncertain state should endeavor to answer the question so much as take a few deep breaths and not worry about it. All things in their season. When she is ready, she'll feel ready. Nothing will change that but the course of events in time, if it will change at all.

Why dont you let the relationship work a little first? Kids-and talk of them, will just ruin it. Have fun, get to know each other, become part of each other's lives.

No offense- you dont seem like the type to have kids to me, for now.

None taken... I know perfectly well that it would be the stupidest thing I could ever do to rush to a decision now, or to have kids right now. It's just that up until recently, I wouldn't even have asked myself the question, and now I do. Before, I was certain I don't ever want kids, now I don't know any more. That doesn't mean I'm going to have any in the next year or even years.

I guess I'm just mentally preparing myself for the possibility that maybe, just maybe, I might eventually have kids... it takes a lot of re-arranging of ideas and thoughts ;)

I don't think you can rush to answer this kind of question. It sounds like you don't want kids at the moment, but you are aware that your feelings may change with time. Nothing wrong with that. There's not really any way to know how you are going to feel in the future.

It's also possible that you are the kind of person who could be happy either way. Maybe you could be perfectly happy never having kids, and you could also be perfectly happy if you did have kids. I think a lot of people are like that, but there's so much pressure to make babies that most people end up choosing that route if it is open to them.

If you're a woman, the issue gets even more muddled because of the number of people who tell you that your purpose in life is to have babies. You may end up second-guessing yourself a lot; "Do I really want kids for my own reasons, or am I just subconsciously giving in to all the pressure?" Or, "Do I really want to NOT have kids for my own reasons, or am I just trying to rebel against all the traditionalist malarky?"


I am the kind of person who could be perfectly happy never having kids. The question I started to ask myself is could I be happy having kids?

I guess I used to rebel a lot... otherwise I wouldn't have been that sure that I don't want kids. And the prospect of a possible pregnancy may just have broken through all that built-up refusal. It certainly opened a lot of questions for me that won't have a simple, straightforward yes or no answer.

I am the kind of person who could be perfectly happy never having kids. The question I started to ask myself is could I be happy having kids?

I guess I used to rebel a lot... otherwise I wouldn't have been that sure that I don't want kids. And the prospect of a possible pregnancy may just have broken through all that built-up refusal. It certainly opened a lot of questions for me that won't have a simple, straightforward yes or no answer.

If you still wanna rebel and have children, you could always try being a good parent.:p

If you still wanna rebel and have children, you could always try being a good parent.:p

Whatever I'll decide is a long way down the line. And knowing me, I'd be the sort of parent that leads by bad example ;)

Whatever I'll decide is a long way down the line. And knowing me, I'd be the sort of parent that leads by bad example ;)

At least they'd know what mistakes not to make.....Yes, I said "they"....<.<

At least they'd know what mistakes not to make.....Yes, I said "they"....<.<

You know, I had thought I had learned from my mom's mistakes ..."Never have children!" ;)

You know, I had thought I had learned from my mom's mistakes ..."Never have children!" ;)

:eek: But then the children you wouldn't have couldn't learn from your mistake: Never discount the possibility for wanting children.:p

Do I want them?
I'm trying to make up my mind at the moment... well, no hurry really. But until a few months back, I would have clearly said that I don't really want kids of my own, that there are WAY to many people on the planet already and that instead of adding to the problem I would rather adopt some poor little one if ever I should feel the need to take care of a child.

And then, a few months ago, I was scared for a couple of days that a little accident may have happened. It turned out to be false alarm, but... ever since I've been wondering what if it hadn't been?
I'm in the process of starting a new relationship right now (isn't that a nice and rational way of saying that I'm falling in love with a cute, gorgeous, caring, witty, intelligent guy? ;) ), and he asked me today if I wanted kids. Do I?
And if I do, why?

Cabra's confused, folks.... :confused:

In the words of George Carlin, "Fuck the Children."

But seriously, the only person who can decide this is you. There is nothing wrong with not wanting children.

Why dont you let the relationship work a little first? Kids-and talk of them, will just ruin it. Have fun, get to know each other, become part of each other's lives.

I have to disagree with this, to a point. If the relationship is looking like it is going to have a sexual component (which I'm going to guess it does), then some discussion of children - whether or not to have them - should be done NOW. At the very least, both parties need to be clear on what they think would be appropriate action in the case of an unplanned pregnancy....

Well, it'd be you who'd want them either way, so it doesn't really make sense to me to ask someone else if the person asking wants something...

If you're looking for us to say whether or not you'd be a suitable mother, I don't think we're the people to ask... we only know yourself on this site, we don't know the difference between your online personality and your offline personality (unless you've told people before, and even then it might be hard to tell) so you'd probably be better off looking elsewhere...
And that is why I posted these:p:

You shouldn't be asking us. You should be asking yourself.;)
And that's really what you're doing here. You're asking yourself on the pretext that you want others' opinions, and while you might value those, that isn't truly your purpose.

I could, but I don't think that's it. I think you're looking for someone else to say the words you can't find within yourself.


And here's the appreciation I got:rolleyes::
No, based on the majority of your posts, your specialities are smilies, spam, and smilies with spam ;)

I have to disagree with this, to a point. If the relationship is looking like it is going to have a sexual component (which I'm going to guess it does), then some discussion of children - whether or not to have them - should be done NOW. At the very least, both parties need to be clear on what they think would be appropriate action in the case of an unplanned pregnancy....

Oh, it does have that component. And I think if it should happen accidentally, it's pretty clear that I will keep it, and that he will be part of raising it in whatever form. I think if anything he'd want to be involved as closely as possible.

And that is why I posted these:p:



And here's the appreciation I got:rolleyes::

Oh, I appreciated it. :fluffle:

Cabs sweetie, let me tell you my "family curse".

"Someday...youre gonna have one just like YOU!"

Thats reason#1 (out of many) why I never want the little blighters.


What if you had one just like you?

Cabs sweetie, let me tell you my "family curse".

"Someday...youre gonna have one just like YOU!"

Thats reason#1 (out of many) why I never want the little blighters.


What if you had one just like you?

We'd love each other, hate each other, yell at each other and cuddle a lot. One like me I could handle. But I might get one just like my mother... or worse, like my father *shiver

We'd love each other, hate each other, yell at each other and cuddle a lot. One like me I could handle. But I might get one just like my mother... or worse, like my father *shiver

I wouldnt worry about the Father part.

Sounds like you would be far better to any potential offspring that he was to you.

But be forewarned.

One just like you?

Opposite poles attract....like poles repel.
What if you got to see a living representation of all your faults, and shortcomings made flesh....

No way to I want an impatient, smart ass kid, whos far too smart for his own good.

Oh, I appreciated it. :fluffle:

Too bad no one else does! They don't even bother reading my serious posts anymore.:( :fluffle:

I wouldnt worry about the Father part.

Sounds like you would be far better to any potential offspring that he was to you.

But be forewarned.

One just like you?

Opposite poles attract....like poles repel.
What if you got to see a living representation of all your faults, and shortcomings made flesh....

No way to I want an impatient, smart ass kid, whos far too smart for his own good.


Ah, she'd be stubborn beyond all reason, wouldn't think ahead for 5 minutes, but at least she'd be a very bright little kid :)