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Free Mercantile States
31-08-2006, 04:31
This doesnt make it right. If you have to twist science that much to produce a child then it is unnatural and shouldn't be allowed.

...because you say so? Why does your opinion as to what technology and science should and should not be allowed have any weight or force in matters of law? Reality check: your baseless, ill-informed, and irrational gut reactions and feelings mean absolutely nothing. They have no impact or relation to the actual reality of the situation, which is that technology can and will allow individuals to do things they could not "naturally" do solely with the use of their unaugmented bodies, whether it be lift gigantic objects with a crane, fly above the ground with a jet, or have a kid with a combination of biotechnologies.

In addition, why is it "unnatural"? Humans are "natural" entities endowed with the "natural" quality of intelligence, which allows us to pursue scientific and technological development, and to implement these discoveries and innovations as we desire. This is all a perfectly "natural" sequence of events. What makes a same-sex couple having a baby any different from a "naturally" infertile person having a baby?

I think they would rather be in a caring foster home than being raised in an unhealthy environment that is the gay lifestyle

Considering that every piece of scientific research done on the topic completely contradicts this baseless assertion, in that studies have repeatedly shown that children of gay couples are on average at least as well-adjusted and socioemotionally healthy as their traditional-parents-raised peers, your thought, if it can be called that (I personally think outburst, feeling, assumption, or gut reaction would be more accurate) would simply be wrong.

Just for reference, studies include Ball and Pea, 1998; Golombock and Tasker, 1996; Patterson and Redding, 1996.

I'd rather be abused in a foster home than be raised by gays

Of course you would - you're a homophobe. I know we've talked about what that word means before, though I think its application to you is all but self-evident.
RomeW
31-08-2006, 07:22
Don't I wish.....

Of course, I believe that in this sort of arrangement the Federal government should still ensure that the states enforce civil rights.

Probably each state would have its own version of "civil rights"- they've already got their own Constitutions, and I'm sure that the people won't want a radical change- but I'm sure the states probably won't mind being able to interpret the Constitution on their own. You have to understand in this case the states would be independent, sovereign countries that just have an economic deal together- there'd be no central government, just a trade board really. Don't know if I'd like that arrangement, but I think it's inevitable given each country's history.