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My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?

I'll give you a cookie if you eat him/her.

Your poll needs an other option.

You could always eat him, no point wasting a valuable source of protein.

I'd suggest getting a cat. I have a silver tabby. She's 17 years old. Guess how long it's been since I've seen a mouse.

Other: Find your number one enemy and let him into their ventilation system.

Crucify him :p

We caught a rat outside about a year ago. Now she lives in her own cage in the house.
that's not an option here. I am officially creeped out by rodents.

We caught a rat outside about a year ago. Now she lives in her own cage in the house.

Set him free in the home of someone you dislike. Or release him in a restaurant, scream when he scurries across the floor and demand that your meal should be comped. Or maybe you should just humanely kill it and throw it away.
yes those are all options which one is the correct one?

my neighbors do have a very nice house with a hole that the mouse could fit through, and I don't like them a bit........

also, I do have humane traps about that I could coax him through..........

Set him free in the home of someone you dislike. Or release him in a restaurant, scream when he scurries across the floor and demand that your meal should be comped. Or maybe you should just humanely kill it and throw it away.

My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?
don't throw it outside, it will find it's way back into your house.

if you don't want to kill it or keep it, let your husband deal with it... after all, you're supposed to be resting. :p

At a friends house, whom I was house sitting while he was at the M-E... I caught 8 mice... set them free in the mountains, miles from any home.

Donate it to a needy cat.

Sell it to a petshop

uh......my dog seems to want to eat it.......will it kill him or something?

Make a super amazing assault course for it!

Make sickeningly cute tiny little clothes for it and dress it up. It should die of embarrassment soon after.

I'll give you a cookie if you eat him/her.

And I'll give you a bigger/better/tastier/shinier cookie if you post the vid! :D

Other:snake food

(don't eat the mouse)

uh......my dog seems to want to eat it.......will it kill him or something?
I don't know, but aren't dogs supposed to be kept away from meat with little bones like chicken because they could choke? Also it might be diseased.

uh......my dog seems to want to eat it.......will it kill him or something?

Should be ok, though mice spread salmonella, e-coli and rat-bite fever! :p

If you don't already know I'm a pest controller ;)

Which option would give you the most joy?

I think the infest the neighbor with the mouse option would. Do that.

no more worries, hubby came home for lunch and dropped off stuff and took mousey with him.........I don't want to know what he is going to do about it, but it's no longer my problem.

You guys can despense with the joke advice now.

Should be ok, though mice spread salmonella, e-coli and rat-bite fever! :p

If you don't already know I'm a pest controller ;)

Lets not forget Hanta virus and possibly Lyme disease.

are you going to take the advice of the majority of NS votes?

are you going to take the advice of the majority of NS votes?
I was........but my husband showed up unexpectedly and took the mouse with him when he headed back to work.

no more worries, hubby came home for lunch and dropped off stuff and took mousey with him.........I don't want to know what he is going to do about it, but it's no longer my problem.

You guys can despense with the joke advice now.


oh damn - and here I thought that NSG'ers could actually come together to make a difference in the world :P

Tie strings around it's feet and turn it into a puppet. Tour the country, giving puppet shows with the mouse as the star to children's birthday parties.

oh damn - and here I thought that NSG'ers could actually come together to make a difference in the world :P

True true.

that's not an option here. I am officially creeped out by rodents.

That's why us rats LOVE you !
Please, do not murder my sibling :(

Lets not forget Hanta virus and possibly Lyme disease.

Ok, if ya wanna be picky, technically they could POSSIBLY carry rabies too ;)

Though I'm not aware of any rabid mice being reported ever!

*lol*

Tie strings around it's feet and turn it into a puppet. Tour the country, giving puppet shows with the mouse as the star to children's birthday parties.

I'd pay for that! With a bit of clowning thrown in! :D

Feed it to a snake. :D

okay, hubby emailed me, he gave the mouse to his facilities manager at work, who btw has a snake.
(and apparently eats any random mice found in the office building)

okay, hubby emailed me, he gave the mouse to his facilities manager at work, who btw has a snake.
(and apparently eats any random mice found in the office building)

Seems a bit stupid, since the snake could get diseases from it...a friend of mine has a lot of snakes (and I mean a LOT) and he only feed them with mouses breed in captivity so that he minimize that risk.

okay, hubby emailed me, he gave the mouse to his facilities manager at work, who btw has a snake.
(and apparently eats any random mice found in the office building)

Doubtful, unless he lets the snake loose in the office which is just a lawsuit waiting to happen

okay, hubby emailed me, he gave the mouse to his facilities manager at work, who btw has a snake.
(and apparently eats any random mice found in the office building)

So now he'll have a snake that needs worming :rolleyes:

BTW mine still has no name! And I do believe Smunkee's breaking doc's orders!!! :D

microwave

Doubtful, unless he lets the snake loose in the office which is just a lawsuit waiting to happen
no, he catches the mice on those sticky pads and takes them home

or this is one of those things my husband told me to keep me from knowing something undesireable.......like when your parents tell you your dog "ran away" when it actually got hit by a semi

So now he'll have a snake that needs worming :rolleyes:
you were going to let me feed it to my dog :eek:

BTW mine still has no name! And I do believe Smunkee's breaking doc's orders!!! :D
I am thinking.....it's not like your snake knows if he doesn't have a name

oh, and today I am supposed to try to get back to normal and see if I feel better.

I don't know, but aren't dogs supposed to be kept away from meat with little bones like chicken because they could choke? Also it might be diseased.


Only cooked bones, as they splinter and choke them, or damage their throat or GI tract.

Dogs can consume fur and bones.

Just dont give a dog cooked bones. Raw ones are fine.

you were going to let me feed it to my dog :eek:


I am thinking.....it's not like your snake knows if he doesn't have a name

oh, and today I am supposed to try to get back to normal and see if I feel better.

Don't you routinely worm the dogs anyhow? Reptiles aren't wormed unless needed as generally speaking as it's not required (unless feeding live prey).

Ok, but by normal 58 hours awake and 3 mins sleep + 35 jobs isn't good! (I may or may not be exaggerating a bit there). :p

Go back to clowning! Relieve all that stress and entertain the NS! :D

My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?
I smell a sitcom starring Ted McGinley and Kirstie Alley. ;)

Please Smunkee, just let it go!!!

(Especially before it suffocates in that tupperware box!!!)

Go! Now!!! I'm not joking, either!!!!!

Mice are very nice animals, and it didn't do anything to you - so be a good person and work on your karma and set it free!

My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?

I remember how much you love your neighbours.... express your love by letting the little squeaker free in their yard, I say :D

And please don't tell me you've been keeping it locked up airtight for 45 minutes, neither!

no, he catches the mice on those sticky pads and takes them home

or this is one of those things my husband told me to keep me from knowing something undesireable.......like when your parents tell you your dog "ran away" when it actually got hit by a semi

Likely, removing mice from glue is not easily done if a) you want it intact and b) not having glue on. Not good snake feed quality!

Likely, removing mice from glue is not easily done if a) you want it intact and b) not having glue on. Not good snake feed quality!

If the snake is used to dead food it wouldn't be such a big trouble, then you just cut of the parts with glue on.

ON the other side, if you want live mice there are many other traps which are better and catches the mouse alive.

If the snake is used to dead food it wouldn't be such a big trouble, then you just cut of the parts with glue on.

ON the other side, if you want live mice there are many other traps which are better and catches the mouse alive.

It's my job! I've caught many and they don't usually stay intact once you start tugging on them so I don't bother trying anymore. Cut off the sticky parts???? That would be the underneath of the mouse, it's tail and legs and bits of the sides. Sure why not, but it sounds like a lot of effort to me :p

Buy them dead from the pet shops, it's a lot less hassle ;)

okay, hubby emailed me, he gave the mouse to his facilities manager at work, who btw has a snake.
(and apparently eats any random mice found in the office building)
So much for good karma. And you wonder why you're not doing well recently... :(

So much for good karma. And you wonder why you're not doing well recently... :(
I am a Christian, I don't believe in Karma, and therefore it doesn't affect me. :p

*starts singing freebird while Smunkee throws the mouse into the neighbors yard*

*sees a snake attack the mouse*

"Weee are the champions.."

So now he'll have a snake that needs worming :rolleyes:

BTW mine still has no name! And I do believe Smunkee's breaking doc's orders!!! :D

Dont wild snakes eat wild mice?

*starts singing freebied while Smunkee throws the mouse into the neighbors yard*

Where a small free falcon shrieks out of the sky and grabs the mouse

My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?

If you're not sure what gender it is, then it's female. You would know if it was male. *nod* :)

Dont wild snakes eat wild mice?

Yes, and sometimes they get infections and die. Part of nature, but perhaps not what you want to happen to your $1000-snake.

Dont wild snakes eat wild mice?

Yes, but wild snakes are also parasite ridden :rolleyes:

I am a Christian, I don't believe in Karma, and therefore it doesn't affect me. :p
Mmh. Seems like you don't appreciate all of His creation very much, then. I almost feel as sorry for you as I feel for that little mouse.

Mmh. Seems like you don't appreciate all of His creation very much, then. I almost feel as sorry for you as I feel for that little mouse.

What about the snake?

Mmh. Seems like you don't appreciate all of His creation very much, then. I almost feel as sorry for you as I feel for that little mouse.

Nah I'm sure karma was a hippy creation! :p

Mmh. Seems like you don't appreciate all of His creation very much, then. I almost feel as sorry for you as I feel for that little mouse.
I don't appreciate His creation?! I don't like rodents running around creating mischief in my house.

I eat cows, chickens, pigs, deer, and fish too..........am I gonna go to hell for that?

Yes, but wild snakes are also parasite ridden :rolleyes:

What happens to them? The wild snakes, not their parasites.

What happens to them? The wild snakes, not their parasites.

They live shorter lives than if they were being looked after properly in captivity. Depends on the level of parasites and what they have. Don't get me wrong I don't mean ALL wild snakes are on the verge of dying from a parasitic overload :p

I was just trying to point out that by feeding live wild animals to a snake you pass on the risk of spreading any nasties they may be carrying. Freezing them usually kills everything off.

I eat cows, chickens, pigs, deer, and fish too..........am I gonna go to hell for that?

That depends. what kind of fish are they?

That depends. what kind of fish are they?
trout, bass, catfish ect. stuff I can catch around here.

oh, I should add to the list rabbit and turkey

I don't appreciate His creation?! I don't like rodents running around creating mischief in my house.

I eat cows, chickens, pigs, deer, and fish too..........am I gonna go to hell for that?
Yes. :(

What about the snake?
Put it on a mother*bleep*ing plane and send it off to vacation. (Snakes freak me out ;))
Nah I'm sure karma was a hippy creation! :p
Riiight. :D
I don't appreciate His creation?! I don't like rodents running around creating mischief in my house.
I eat cows, chickens, pigs, deer, and fish too..........am I gonna go to hell for that?
I just felt bad for the little fellow, that's all.
Don't think bad of me - I just had an adorable mouse as a kid and thus tend to take the side of the critters http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/brain.gifhttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/pinky.gif

Are you going to hell?

http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/wippe.gif
Yes! No! Yes! No! Yes! No!
(I honestly don't know, but I sure hope not :p)

uh......my dog seems to want to eat it.......will it kill him or something?

Was I the only one who read that as "will being eaten by my dog kill the mouse?"

http://downtym.livejournal.com/13304.html

Try some of these.

Was I the only one who read that as "will being eaten by my dog kill the mouse?"
I had considered the vague-ness of it, but decided that only weird people would be able to read it both ways (like I did)

http://downtym.livejournal.com/13304.html

Try some of these.
my current mouse traps are little black plastic boxes with a tunnel with PB at the end, only when the mice get to the end of the tunnel not only can they not turn around to get out, but they complete a circut and electrocute themselves, fast clean mouse murder.

here. (http://www.pestdetour.com/images/products_n-z/victor_elec_mousetrap_sm.gif)

trout, bass, catfish ect. stuff I can catch around here.

oh, I should add to the list rabbit and turkey

trout and bass wont condemn you to eternal damnation. Catfish might get you a scolding but no worse.

trout and bass wont condemn you to eternal damnation. Catfish might get you a scolding but no worse.
well, it's a good thing I am under grace, since I am eating me some fried catfish for dinner tomorrow night........

ah, last fish fry of the season :(

what is so wrong with having a mouse around. it keeps the floors clean of cheese and peanut butter.

keep it as a pet.

what is so wrong with having a mouse around. it keeps the floors clean of cheese and peanut butter.

keep it as a pet.

Um if you let them stay they nest in the insulation of ovens and every time you cook after that it smells like the side of a 7/11 where the winos piss.

I am guessing as to gender.If the mouse has testicles, it's male. If not, it's female. Pinky and the Brain are neutered so they don't count.

Pour boiling water into bowl. Pour out dead rat on lawn. Lets birds and neighborhood pets do the rest.

Personally, I'd just take it to the end of the garden at let it loose.

I had considered the vague-ness of it, but decided that only weird people would be able to read it both ways (like I did)

Hmmm... Between this, the geek/nerd scores, and a few other things, I wonder if you and I might share some genes. My daddy's birth mother was from Ardmore... (Okies :::Shudder::: My Texian priest will probably require I make another pilgramage to tha Alamo for even suggesting it. ;))

I'd kill it. Otherwise there's the chance it will just return or worse, return and breed.

Oh, and all this reminds me of a (rather evil?) rat/mouse remedy that I came accross many years ago.

1) Capture several mice/rats alive.

2) Set up at 50 gal. drum w/ a mike.

3) Record the sounds as you beat the rats/mice to death with a baseball bat.

4) Incinerate the remains (OUT OF DOORS!).

5) Spread the ashes where the rodents congregate while playing the taped demise.

This is suppoed to be good for at least a year. Never tried it, but if that don't work...

God, what is it with you people and the sanctity of life in general?

Hmmm... Between this, the geek/nerd scores, and a few other things, I wonder if you and I might share some genes. My daddy's birth mother was from Ardmore... (Okies :::Shudder::: My Texian priest will probably require I make another pilgramage to tha Alamo for even suggesting it. ;))
I have tons of family in Ardmore, but uh......I don't think any of them would venture south into Texas unless they were running away from like a Tornado or something...........hahaha.

I have tons of family in Ardmore, but uh......I don't think any of them would venture south into Texas unless they were running away from like a Tornado or something...........hahaha.

Oh lordy...

Dad was adopted back in '41. What I know of his blood relatives, they're almost all in Ardmore....

Smunkee, you bhave a telegram...

My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?

Why not release him/her in an open field somewhere?

Why not release him/her in an open field somewhere?
Too late, too late - she let it become snake-fodder. :mad:

no, he catches the mice on those sticky pads and takes them home

or this is one of those things my husband told me to keep me from knowing something undesireable.......like when your parents tell you your dog "ran away" when it actually got hit by a semi
the dog thing I can understand... but what could he be hiding if telling you his boss is feeding it to his snakes is preferable??? :eek:

God, what is it with you people and the sanctity of life in general?sanctity of life... in NSG! *Laughs manically*

the dog thing I can understand... but what could he be hiding if telling you his boss is feeding it to his snakes is preferable??? :eek:
my husband is a strange strange man.

He knows I would be just devastated if something truely violent happened to the little guy. I mean don't get me wrong I wanted him dead, but really, did it have to be unpleasant?

my husband is a strange strange man.

He knows I would be just devastated if something truely violent happened to the little guy. I mean don't get me wrong I wanted him dead, but really, did it have to be unpleasant?
don't worry about it. Mice, like rats are cunning little devils.

I don't think your Hubby will do anything cruel and grotesque to them. Feeding them to a pet snake is probably the truth.

my husband is a strange strange man.

He knows I would be just devastated if something truely violent happened to the little guy. I mean don't get me wrong I wanted him dead, but really, did it have to be unpleasant?
don't worry about it. Mice, like rats are cunning little devils.

I don't think your Hubby will do anything cruel and grotesque to them. Feeding them to a pet snake is probably the truth.

Let the poor little thing go!

If the mouse has testicles, it's male. If not, it's female. Pinky and the Brain are neutered so they don't count.

You can't really see mouse testicles from the outside (although they are pretty large for the little mousy size). It is actually pretty hard to tell male and female mice apart unless you see them pretty often or have a male and a female to hold up at the same time.

sanctity of life... in NSG! *Laughs manically*
Don't say you didn't know you've had this coming:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/MachineGunSmiley.gif

You can't really see mouse testicles from the outside (although they are pretty large for the little mousy size). It is actually pretty hard to tell male and female mice apart unless you see them pretty often or have a male and a female to hold up at the same time.It's not that hard to tell. They hang past the knees

Don't say you didn't know you've had this coming:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/MachineGunSmiley.gifBack at yah!
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Reminds me of a funny story I heard. My grandpa and great-uncle once found a rat and threw it into the pool. It was kicking and squirming frantically, trying not to drown. My grandma protested and told him to get it out of the pool immediately. My grandpa smiles, says, "Okay," catches the mouse with a net, then tosses it over the fence onto the neighbor's roof. Splat.

You can't really see mouse testicles from the outside (although they are pretty large for the little mousy size). It is actually pretty hard to tell male and female mice apart unless you see them pretty often or have a male and a female to hold up at the same time.

I have a male mouse. If a human male were equipped like he is, he wouldn't be able to walk - it would be like having two basketballs between his legs. It's not that hard to tell.

Wild mice don't make good pets. They carry fleas and diseases and are prone to bite when cornered. If you're unwilling to kill it, put it in one of your humane traps, carry it far into the country and turn it loose. Then check around the house to find where it got in (they can fit through holes the size of a dime) and plug it up. If it's a female, it may have left a nest of babies. Generally, where there's one mouse, there are more, so a good, deep cleaning may be in order.

If there are babies and you want to try raising them, they can be hand raised (my mouse was and is quite tame) but it's a tedious, time-consuming job. (and btw, the most humane way to kill the babies would be to freeze them).

It's not that hard to tell. They hang past the knees

Not on any mouse I've seen - and I work with them quite often. I even breed them. I've never seen a mouse testicle without killling and dissecting the mouse to get at it. The penis can be seen, but the female has a little nub as well. We differentiate between them, especially at a young age, mostly by the distance between the anus and the nub.

Not on any mouse I've seen - and I work with them quite often. I even breed them. I've never seen a mouse testicle without killling and dissecting the mouse to get at it. The penis can be seen, but the female has a little nub as well. We differentiate between them, especially at a young age, mostly by the distance between the anus and the nub.

Mutant mice? Mice with undescended testicles? in the mice I've seen (and the one I have) it was very easy to distinguish between male and female in the mature mice - the males' testicles were dragging on the ground. Admittedly, you can't tell in a pinky or a fuzzy, but a mature male mouse is unmistakable

My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?


Seems pretty obvious to me: build a miniature fireswamp in the backyard and turn it loose.

Back at yah!
http://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/gewalt/ultima.gifhttp://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/wavey.gifYeah, except I'm over here...

Ways to liberate self from mouse (some ARE cruel, but some WILL find every option useful. Rated on cruelness):

1) Let it go. :)
2) eat it. :confused:
3) Burn it :eek:
4) Bury it :eek:
5) Cats :)
6) Use it as a weapon against an enemy :|
7) Pool (either type) :eek:
8) trash it :(
9) Pay someone else to rid of it :|

This is a joke right? If you don't know what to do when you catch a mouse you probably shouldn't do the following:

Drive
Operate machinery
Use anything that's pointy (paper included)
Even think about going near a firearm
Have children
Vote

Microwave on high!!!







































:p J/K

This is a joke right? If you don't know what to do when you catch a mouse you probably shouldn't do the following:

Drive
Operate machinery
Use anything that's pointy (paper included)
Even think about going near a firearm
Have children
Vote

I will pack up my kids, when will you be over to get them?

My kids have been telling me of a R.O.U.S. living in their room for about a week now. I was mostly sure they were kidding or mistaken, but alas, while they were at a friends house today I seem to have spotted an actual mouse. I caught him, he is about 2 iches long (3 1/2 with tail) and I am guessing as to gender. I have him trapped in a tupperware bowl (that my mother in law gave me, and I have no problem parting with)

anyway, I usually have humane type traps about for this occasion, but this little guy is well, creeping me out.

What do I do with him?
Send him to attack the Nieghbours!
Do not kill a MOBRAITE.:(

Donate it to a needy cat.
I'll donate you to a needy cat!
And no it won't be A-Grade Pussy!
*Threatens you with Hitler on a Llama!*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/harlesburg/ArmiesoftheReich.jpg

This is a joke right? If you don't know what to do when you catch a mouse you probably shouldn't do the following:

Drive
Operate machinery
Use anything that's pointy (paper included)
Even think about going near a firearm
Have children
Vote

Feel better? I think that perhaps it should be you who shouldn't do any of the above. If you react like this to a simple thread online then I wouldn't want you around anything that could actually hurt people, or be hurt themselves.

Mutant mice? Mice with undescended testicles? in the mice I've seen (and the one I have) it was very easy to distinguish between male and female in the mature mice - the males' testicles were dragging on the ground. Admittedly, you can't tell in a pinky or a fuzzy, but a mature male mouse is unmistakable

No. Most of them are black6 background - pretty much the most commonly used lab mouse out there. We had some that were out of, IIRC, a black10 background as well. They looked pretty much exactly the same. I've seen a couple of other strains - same thing.

I can easily distinguish between male and female in very mature mice. Males walk differently and are usually heavier. The females also have obvious nipples. But testicles have nothing to do with it. As I said, you can't see the testicles on these mice without dissecting them.