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Is Freedom Fundementally Flawed?

Hobovillia
23-08-2006, 06:36
Honestly, I don't care. But someone else might:)
Posi
23-08-2006, 06:41
Honestly, I don't care. But someone else might:)
I forsee....flaming.
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Curious Inquiry
23-08-2006, 06:42
You're as free as you want to be, despite any governments or religions :)
UpwardThrust
23-08-2006, 06:44
I forsee....flaming.
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Why?
Posi
23-08-2006, 06:46
Why?
Cause it gives me a good excuse to use that emoticon.
Hobovillia
23-08-2006, 06:47
I forsee....flaming.
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No, not my hair, its my only good feature!
Boonytopia
23-08-2006, 08:12
Yes, yes it is. Now give me some of those burning smilies.
JiangGuo
23-08-2006, 11:58
You'll be free as long as you're most well-armed around.
Omnibragaria
23-08-2006, 12:08
You should define what you mean by Freedom before you ask a question like that, and no, no it's not.
Demented Hamsters
23-08-2006, 13:41
No idea, but it makes for a cool alliteration.
Deep Kimchi
23-08-2006, 14:25
You'll be free as long as you're most well-armed around.
Armed is one thing.

Willing and able to use your armaments is another thing.
Andaluciae
23-08-2006, 14:27
Freedom might be, but a derivative of freedom and order, civic liberty, is not.
Deep Kimchi
23-08-2006, 14:36
Freedom might be, but a derivative of freedom and order, civic liberty, is not.

Ah, but isn't civic liberty earned by a few so that others may all enjoy it? So it isn't "free".
Liberated New Ireland
23-08-2006, 14:36
No, not my hair, its my only good feature!
You thought that was a good featur-.... I mean, oh no, your hair!!!
Hydesland
23-08-2006, 14:37
Depends what you mean by freedom. Do you also mean the freedom to harm? The freedom to offend? etc...
Kryozerkia
23-08-2006, 15:10
Of course the concept is flawed because we aren't truly free.

We are bound by the law of man.

Others are not only bound by the law of man, but by the law of "God", which takes away other freedoms granted by the law of man.

If we were truly free, the laws we had would allow for freedom. But, then, we'd have anarchy. So, we aren't truly free and never will be.
Upper Botswavia
23-08-2006, 15:16
Depends what you mean by freedom.

I can think what I please. I am free. No flaws there.
Hobovillia
24-08-2006, 12:19
You thought that was a good featur-.... I mean, oh no, your hair!!!

You'll have ot pay for more!


Hey your hair looks quite nice actually... I thik we'll just shave a bit here and there...

A brand new wig:) Not nearly as good as my last one but it'll do:p
Omnibragaria
24-08-2006, 12:22
Of course the concept is flawed because we aren't truly free.

We are bound by the law of man.

Others are not only bound by the law of man, but by the law of "God", which takes away other freedoms granted by the law of man.

If we were truly free, the laws we had would allow for freedom. But, then, we'd have anarchy. So, we aren't truly free and never will be.

The question was if the *concept* is flawed, not the implementation. You've got the two confused.
Free Mercantile States
24-08-2006, 16:43
Freedom might be, but a derivative of freedom and order, civic liberty, is not.

A logical derivative of a fundamentally flawed antecedent concept cannot itself be without flaw.