Things Not In the News
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 15:38
Reading the other thread along these lines made me ask myself, "why do people think that if it's not in the news, it doesn't exist?" That's almost like thinking that "if it's in the news, it must be true!"
Most of us see things every day that aren't in the news. And not because they're not newsworthy - it's because the news has limited time to present information, limited ability to see everything, and can't be everywhere - and that's before the editor's desk gets to filter your news for you.
Here's an example:
Advisory Bulletin: CONUS 210806-032
Location: BROOKVILLE, (JEFFERSON CO) PA
Situation: BOLO Suspicious Activity
Date: 21 AUG 06
Status CONFIRMED
Information: THE BROOKVILLE PD JEFFERSON CO PA IS REQUESTING ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO BOLO FOR A LIGHT GREEN FREIGHTLINER TRUCK/TRAILER. TRACTOR REG (MI) G7915, TRAILER REG (MN)82823. THE TRACTOR HAS WORDING "FREIGHT MASTER" ON THE CAB, THE TRAILER HAS " GENESIS EXPRESS " ON THE BOX. VEHICLE HAS RADIOACTIVE PLACARDS. VEHICLE IS BEING OPERATED BY TWO MALE SUBJECTS OF MIDDLE EASTERN ORIGIN. THEY PROVIDED FALSE INFORMATION TO THE TRAVEL CENTER OF AMERICA REGARDING VEHICLE INFORMATION. SUBJECTS CUT LOCK TO TRAILER TO GAIN ACCESS TO CONTENTS. SUBJECTS LEFT THE TRAVEL CENTER OF AMERICA AT APPROXIMATELY 23:45 HOURS ON 20 AUG 2006 VIA I- 80 WITH UNKNOWN DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.
Advisory: ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HAVING CONTACT WITH THIS VEHICLE, STOP AND CONTACT BROOKVILLE PD OR LOCAL FBI FIELD OFFICE. (AUTH/BROOKVILLE POLICE DEPT/CHIEF DWOREK/OFC M STORMER/ OPER BLH)
Shouldn't that be news?
Lunatic Goofballs
22-08-2006, 15:39
Reading the other thread along these lines made me ask myself, "why do people think that if it's not in the news, it doesn't exist?" That's almost like thinking that "if it's in the news, it must be true!"
Most of us see things every day that aren't in the news. And not because they're not newsworthy - it's because the news has limited time to present information, limited ability to see everything, and can't be everywhere - and that's before the editor's desk gets to filter your news for you.
Here's an example:
Shouldn't that be news?
Definitely not. I'd like to get to sleep tonight.
The Nazz
22-08-2006, 15:40
Don't see why it should be, unless your goal is to panic people and make them immediately suspicious who looks a little different from them.
Baguetten
22-08-2006, 15:41
A radioactive placard? Like a sign/poster that's radioactive?
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 15:42
Don't see why it should be, unless your goal is to panic people and make them immediately suspicious who looks a little different from them.
Whatever happened to "the people have a right to know"?
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 15:42
A radioactive placard? Like a sign/poster that's radioactive?
No, like this
http://www.complianceregs.com/49cfr/subF/172-556.html
The Nazz
22-08-2006, 15:45
Whatever happened to "the people have a right to know"?I took a shit this morning--is that news? The public has a right to know about the regularity of my bowel movements. That's the kind of argument you're making here.
It's not like this information is being hidden or anything. It's just not news.
If it was carrying some seriously bad waste or something, wouldn't it have a Radio ID card to track it?
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 15:46
If it was carrying some seriously bad waste or something, wouldn't it have a Radio ID card to track it?
Don't know.
Don't know.
I think they tag anything carrying dangerous stuff, I remember hearing a story up here in Michigan about a truck carrying Hydrochloric acid jack-knifing and tipping over on a highway, the cops found it by following its tag signal
Hydesland
22-08-2006, 15:50
I took a shit this morning--is that news? The public has a right to know about the regularity of my bowel movements. That's the kind of argument you're making here.
It's not like this information is being hidden or anything. It's just not news.
It could be news worthy, something all the police agencies are looking for. Something wich could have radioactive stuff inside, where the people gave false information about them to the travel center.
Whatever happened to "the people have a right to know"?
That blatant idiocy is what was behind the Spanish American war.
Too much "the people have a right to know" is as harmful as too little.
Baguetten
22-08-2006, 15:53
No, like this
http://www.complianceregs.com/49cfr/subF/172-556.html
What an unfortunate use of the adjective to modify the noun. I must admit I am a bit disappointed, as I was starting to think about what one could use radioactive placards for... like, glow in the dark protest signs so you would no longer need torches...
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 15:54
That blatant idiocy is what was behind the Spanish American war.
Too much "the people have a right to know" is as harmful as too little.
Isn't that what Bush says about the New York Times?
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 15:54
What an unfortunate use of the adjective to modify the noun. I must admit I am a bit disappointed, as I was starting to think about what one could use radioactive placards for... like, glow in the dark protest signs so you would no longer need torches...
Government bureaucrats - I don't write the manuals.
Teh_pantless_hero
22-08-2006, 15:56
It could be news worthy, something all the police agencies are looking for. Something wich could have radioactive stuff inside, where the people gave false information about them to the travel center.
I guess panicing a populace and inflaming racial tensions over something they can do nothing about is a genius maneuver by any news agency.
Psychotic Mongooses
22-08-2006, 15:57
How about this:
Work European terrorist actions since London Tube bombings
Dissident republicans have been blamed for a series of arson attacks that destroyed major retail premises in Co Down today.
Security chiefs are investigating the possibility some sort of incendiary devices started the fires which swept through shops in Newry in the early hours.
Damage is expected to run into tens of millions.
Nearly 150 firefighters and 26 fire appliances were brought in during the emergency.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0809/fire.html
Dissident republican group the Real IRA today admitted firebombing British-owned stores near the border.
It claimed it left six incendiary devices which destroyed the shops in Newry, Co Down.
The group also claimed it left devices on the Belfast-Dublin railway line at the same time as the incendiaries were planted, and warned people to stay away from the city's Barcroft Park as some may not have exploded.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0811/northcrime.html
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 16:00
How about this:
Work European terrorist actions since London Tube bombings
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0809/fire.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0811/northcrime.html
Looks like it's in the news somewhere.
Hydesland
22-08-2006, 16:01
How about this:
Work European terrorist actions since London Tube bombings
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0809/fire.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0811/northcrime.html
Lmao, the very title of that website is called rte News.
Psychotic Mongooses
22-08-2006, 16:02
Looks like it's in the news somewhere.
Strange, didn't hear people here clamber for the destruction/invasion of Northern Ireland in a holy quest to destroy terrorism....
Non-Muslim terrorism just ain't sexy enough.
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 16:03
Strange, didn't hear people here clamber for the destruction/invasion of Northern Ireland in a holy quest to destroy terrorism....
Non-Muslim terrorism just ain't sexy enough.
I'm talking about things that happen that are not in ANY news at all.
See?
Psychotic Mongooses
22-08-2006, 16:42
I'm talking about things that happen that are not in ANY news at all.
See?
My only point was that because occurances are not reported on mainstream media outlets, and you have to trudge through archives to find it- does not mean it gets "reported" per se. The above made no urgent bulletins, no breaking news flashed across the screen, didn't even register on tabloid 24hr news stations. Only registered on local television- if that.
My example is of a serious instance for those affected by it- doesn't affect the rest of the world, so why bother report it? Doesn't take away from the seriousness of the situation itself at the same time.
In essence, because it is not reported in the "news" does not detract from its seriousness, which I think was the point you were originally getting at. ;)
Deep Kimchi
22-08-2006, 16:46
My only point was that because occurances are not reported on mainstream media outlets, and you have to trudge through archives to find it- does not mean it gets "reported" per se. The above made no urgent bulletins, no breaking news flashed across the screen, didn't even register on tabloid 24hr news stations. Only registered on local television- if that.
My example is of a serious instance for those affected by it- doesn't affect the rest of the world, so why bother report it? Doesn't take away from the seriousness of the situation itself at the same time.
In essence, because it is not reported in the "news" does not detract from its seriousness, which I think was the point you were originally getting at. ;)
Exactly.