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http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/20/africa/web.0820iraq.php


If you dont want to read i'll sum it up. Iran has started shelling northern Iraq in Kurdistan, and have killed 2 people in 4 days of shelling. Yet, jonbenet ramsey and john mark karr have been dominating american news. How can Iran literally bombing and killing people not make news? This is an act of war in Iraq, yet nobody has heard this story yet. it makes no sence.

Because no one cares about brown people.

Iran seems to be fighting terrorists, and is taking a page after Israel and the US.

Hmm, I wonder whom the USian neo-cons will side with. The Kurdish terrorists, or the oh, so evil Iran...

Iran seems to be fighting terrorists, and is taking a page after Israel and the US.

Hmm, I wonder whom the USian neo-cons will side with. The Kurdish terrorists, or the oh, so evil Iran...

Kurdish terrorists would be more expedient. No question about it really.

Kurdish terrorists would be more expedient. No question about it really.

Ah, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Worked well with Saddam... oh, wait. Well, it certainly worked well with the Taliban... oh, shoot. But it worked even better with Ussama... oh, yeah...

Iran seems to be fighting terrorists, and is taking a page after Israel and the US.

Hmm, I wonder whom the USian neo-cons will side with. The Kurdish terrorists, or the oh, so evil Iran...
Kurdish separatists are not only a threat to Iran, but also to the NATO Ally Turkey, and our current nation-building project, Iraq. As such, the US sees no reason in encouraging the separatists to do anything. Realpolitik.

Please, would you use a different term besides 'USians'. It's very irritating to a lot of people. US Citizens works, as does Americans, Citizens of the United States, or, even the term Federals.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/20/africa/web.0820iraq.php


If you dont want to read i'll sum it up. Iran has started shelling northern Iraq in Kurdistan, and have killed 2 people in 4 days of shelling. Yet, jonbenet ramsey and john mark karr have been dominating american news. How can Iran literally bombing and killing people not make news? This is an act of war in Iraq, yet nobody has heard this story yet. it makes no sence.

They've been shelling for 4 days and only killed 2 people? That's not horrible, it's pathetic! One would think they would have been able to kill 2 people at least within the first 15 minutes of shelling. There are senior citizens in America that can kill more people in four days just driving in normal traffic conditions!

They've been shelling for 4 days and only killed 2 people? That's not horrible, it's pathetic! One would think they would have been able to kill 2 people at least within the first 15 minutes of shelling. There are senior citizens in America that can kill more people in four days just driving in normal traffic conditions!


Most senior citizens are vets. I'm pretty sure if they can move fast enough with a sharp enough object they can use a salad knife as a bayonet.

Absolutely pathetic, unless they were destroying stuff.

Ah, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Worked well with Saddam... oh, wait. Well, it certainly worked well with the Taliban... oh, shoot. But it worked even better with Ussama... oh, yeah...
And the beat goes on and on..... :(

Ah, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Worked well with Saddam... oh, wait. Well, it certainly worked well with the Taliban... oh, shoot. But it worked even better with Ussama... oh, yeah...

Well quite. But the middle east is, in reality, far to complicated for a coherent policy which can also be explained to the public easily. So we'll probably stick with a nonsensical policy which can be explained to the public easily. This week it is Iran is teh evil.

Therefore the US will support the kurds.

Well quite. But the middle east is, in reality, far to complicated for a coherent policy which can also be explained to the public easily. So we'll probably stick with a nonsensical policy which can be explained to the public easily. This week it is Iran is teh evil.

Therefore the US will support the kurds.

Remember when we supported Saddam's Iraq in their war with Iran? Good times.

And the beat goes on and on..... :(

They're disposable.

Remember when we supported Saddam's Iraq in their war with Iran? Good times.

We also supported Iran, to some degree. Played them off each other like frat boys at a keg party.

Remember when we supported Saddam's Iraq in their war with Iran? Good times.

Yea. I miss those days.

Absolutely pathetic, unless they were destroying stuff.
Well, what were the Israelis doing with their shelling around Gaza? They were trying to create a no-go zone from which no one could fire rockets.

I'd suspect that something similar is going on here. Alternatively it could just be random firing back without clear targets (which could only be identified by actually walking in there - and I don't think the Iranians want their guys across that border).

Either way, I'm reasonably certain that the Iranian Army could do a lot more damage if it tried.

Kurdish separatists are not only a threat to Iran, but also to the NATO Ally Turkey, and our current nation-building project, Iraq. As such, the US sees no reason in encouraging the separatists to do anything. Realpolitik.

You do make a good point, I have to say. I forgot Turkey being in NATO and how their behaviour against the Kurds has been tolerated in the past... But the question is, will they use this to paint Iran more evil? Or to go, once again, "it's OK to bomb other countries if there happen to be terrorists in them..."

Please, would you use a different term besides 'USians'. It's very irritating to a lot of people. US Citizens works, as does Americans, Citizens of the United States, or, even the term Federals.

Oh, we've been over this too many times before. I probably won't, since USian is so useful and easy to write. I mean no offence, but if you take it, well, pity. And that'll be the end of this - the mods don't like the "USian debate." It may be used, but not debated is the general consensus atm.

Kurdish separatists are not only a threat to Iran, but also to the NATO Ally Turkey, and our current nation-building project, Iraq. As such, the US sees no reason in encouraging the separatists to do anything. Realpolitik.

I figure the nuclear thing in Iran trumps Turkey's worries. (Who have been on the outs with the US in any case).

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/20/africa/web.0820iraq.php


If you dont want to read i'll sum it up. Iran has started shelling northern Iraq in Kurdistan, and have killed 2 people in 4 days of shelling. Yet, jonbenet ramsey and john mark karr have been dominating american news. How can Iran literally bombing and killing people not make news? This is an act of war in Iraq, yet nobody has heard this story yet. it makes no sence.

Not the first time Iran (and Turkey) have done this. I'm off to work and will point out some other cases later.

It has....no one want to face the fact that Iran is flexing and making moves ...who do you think gave hezbollah the green light..open up another front...Shell Iraq ..why not ? Who has the balls to mess with the oil supplies ?
Mess with Iran..and they shut off the tap .

They want Nukes . they are the central bank for terrorism and export it the way the former Soviet Union exported communism .

Who has the balls to stop them ?

I see no one willing to do balls all .

so hide the news on the 6th page ...as big a deal it is.

We cant have that..it gives us a reason to respond...so you downplay it .

The west is full of oil junkies and its turned them all into pussies .

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/20/africa/web.0820iraq.php

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2006/08/19/2003323841

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1852843,00.html

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_4209419

hey call the worthless UN ! Maybe they can fix it ....:rolleyes:


Imagine nukes and hezzbollah :rolleyes:

Say good bye to the middle east as we know it.

Irans got its new Cyrus ...only with a bad hair cut ..and he's got plans for a new Islamic revolution and he knows you have NO BALLS TO STOP HIM.

The Chamberlain moment is upon us now..Iran has tested the west and found a bunch of whining pussies ....history will always repeat itself.
We are so much more closer to having a nuclear war then we were when the US and the soviets had thousands of missiless aimed at each other .
And its all because " insha'Allah"

Just ask " Cyrus " over in Persia .

Kurdish separatists are not only a threat to Iran, but also to the NATO Ally Turkey, and our current nation-building project, Iraq. As such, the US sees no reason in encouraging the separatists to do anything. Realpolitik.

Please, would you use a different term besides 'USians'. It's very irritating to a lot of people. US Citizens works, as does Americans, Citizens of the United States, or, even the term Federals.

Federals could be offensive to someone down south.

Federals could be offensive to someone down south.

It does not matter. They lost the war.

It does not matter. They lost the war.

True true. Oh and Kurdistan is not actually a nation :D

Wait ... you post a headline from an international news publication and ask why it didn't make the headlines?

I'm very, very :confused:.

...they are the central bank for terrorism...
You're thinking of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

We are so much more closer to having a nuclear war then we were when the US and the soviets had thousands of missiless aimed at each other .
And its all because " insha'Allah"
Well, if god wills it, then we don't have to bother trying to stop him, cuz he's got a history of smitin' that ass.

And you, sir, need to stop drinking.

Wait ... you post a headline from an international news publication and ask why it didn't make the headlines?

I'm very, very .

I think the question is why didn't it make the news in local US news orgs.

Oh, we've been over this too many times before. I probably won't, since USian is so useful and easy to write. I mean no offence, but if you take it, well, pity. And that'll be the end of this - the mods don't like the "USian debate." It may be used, but not debated is the general consensus atm.
Wait what?!

Hmm, I wonder whom the USian neo-cons will side with. The Kurdish terrorists, or the oh, so evil Iran...

I don't really appreciate the term "USian" either. But it's your choice.

I agree on the neocons, though. They're scary, and there's a batch of them in American colleges waiting to hit the job market and possibly get government positions.

Why hasnt this made headlines?Because there are elections coming up in the US, and the Repubs don't want to lose. A lot of people are sick of the warfare, and would likely vote for the party least likely to get into another conflict.

And, one of the best ways to keep the media away from a story is to not mention it, and just give "we're aware of the situation" no-content stall responses when asked about it.

But if they win, then they'll likely be shouting it from the rooftops in order to rally support for military action. That action being against Iran. Bush already hates Iran and its nuke program, so the chance to add another evil-sounding thing to the list of charges against them will likely be irresistable.

Of course, to make the Iranians' shelling evil-sounding, the PR machine will have to portray those Kurds as "innocent minority civilians," not as terroristic militants.

Edit--The Dems likely won't want to bring media attention to this either; if the people decide that US military interference is warranted, they'll vote for Republicans. So, best for both sides to just "starve" this story until the midterm votes are tallied.

You wanna know why this isn't making any headlines? It's because those towelheads are sand monkeys!

I agree on the neocons, though. They're scary, and there's a batch of them in American colleges waiting to hit the job market and possibly get government positions.

It's far too easy to get a job in government in this country.

Now, to transcend the "the Iranians" phrase, here's an article giving a quick view of what different Iranians think about the world and their government:
IRANIAN INTRANSIGENCE (http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,432788,00.html)
The government of Iran appears set to reject the European incentive package on Tuesday. A show of strength? A diplomatic blunder? Iranians themselves don't know what to think.

Iran is doing a little Miss Moffet.



They both have Kurds in their way.



boom boom!

The Kurdish terrorists, or the oh, so evil Iran...
I don't know why people say this with sarcasm. Iran is so evil.

And how are the US no complaining that Iran are doing this? What if Iran want to bomb Israeli terrorists?

Another confusing thing is that Iran are firing into a militant area but killing civilians. According to some that's collateral damage, but these are the same people who condemned Israel for bombing Hezbollah areas and killing civilians.

Another confusing thing is that Iran are firing into a militant area but killing civilians. According to some that's collateral damage, but these are the same people who condemned Israel for bombing Hezbollah areas and killing civilians.

There is no excuse for killing civilians; not to mention that the killing of civilians is generally counterproductive.

Iran should be condemned for this.
As should Turkey be, which has been carrying out attacks in the same area ever since the invasion…
Let us not forget to condemn the US, Israel, and Hizbu-llah as well…

Concluding that I do not consider Iran to be more evil than other countries, and I must confess that I am more critical of states that are more powerful and closer to me... :D

Another confusing thing is that Iran are firing into a militant area but killing civilians. According to some that's collateral damage, but these are the same people who condemned Israel for bombing Hezbollah areas and killing civilians.
They killed 2 people in 4 days. Israel kills more civilians in single "precision" strikes.

There is no excuse for killing civilians; not to mention that the killing of civilians is generally counterproductive.

Iran should be condemned for this.
As should Turkey be, which has been carrying out attacks in the same area ever since the invasion…
Let us not forget to condemn the US, Israel, and Hizbu-llah as well…

Concluding that I do not consider Iran to be more evil than other countries, and I must confess that I am more critical of states that are more powerful and closer to me... :D


Civilians get killed. In wars. Can you identify any wars in which no civilians were killed?

Hmm...
An American military spokesman said some Shiite militias had been training in Iran and had received weapons from individuals or groups in that country. However, the spokesman, Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV, said the military had not found any evidence that the Iranian government was involved.(from the article in the OP)

Funny, I saw this when I got into the office. But it's not on the news.

Advisory Bulletin: CONUS 210806-032

Location: BROOKVILLE, (JEFFERSON CO) PA

Situation: BOLO Suspicious Activity

Date: 21 AUG 06

Status CONFIRMED

Information: THE BROOKVILLE PD JEFFERSON CO PA IS REQUESTING ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO BOLO FOR A LIGHT GREEN FREIGHTLINER TRUCK/TRAILER. TRACTOR REG (MI) G7915, TRAILER REG (MN)82823. THE TRACTOR HAS WORDING "FREIGHT MASTER" ON THE CAB, THE TRAILER HAS " GENESIS EXPRESS " ON THE BOX. VEHICLE HAS RADIOACTIVE PLACARDS. VEHICLE IS BEING OPERATED BY TWO MALE SUBJECTS OF MIDDLE EASTERN ORIGIN. THEY PROVIDED FALSE INFORMATION TO THE TRAVEL CENTER OF AMERICA REGARDING VEHICLE INFORMATION. SUBJECTS CUT LOCK TO TRAILER TO GAIN ACCESS TO CONTENTS. SUBJECTS LEFT THE TRAVEL CENTER OF AMERICA AT APPROXIMATELY 23:45 HOURS ON 20 AUG 2006 VIA I- 80 WITH UNKNOWN DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.

Advisory: ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HAVING CONTACT WITH THIS VEHICLE, STOP AND CONTACT BROOKVILLE PD OR LOCAL FBI FIELD OFFICE. (AUTH/BROOKVILLE POLICE DEPT/CHIEF DWOREK/OFC M STORMER/ OPER BLH)

I don't know why people say this with sarcasm. Iran is so evil.

I say it with sarcasm because the concept of "evil" is so ludicrous, simplistic and, well, stupid.

I say it with sarcasm because the concept of "evil" is so ludicrous, simplistic and, well, stupid.
I agree. I only classify things in relation to my own interests.

Ah, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Worked well with Saddam... oh, wait. Well, it certainly worked well with the Taliban... oh, shoot. But it worked even better with Ussama... oh, yeah...
Actually it worked great with Saddam. We could still be using Saddam as a threat to Iran today if the Bushes hadn't made him an enemy and removed him from power.

Iran seems to be fighting terrorists, and is taking a page after Israel and the US.

Hmm, I wonder whom the USian neo-cons will side with. The Kurdish terrorists, or the oh, so evil Iran...


the kurdish people havent been fighting in the insurgency...they're not the terrorists.

You wanna know why this isn't making any headlines? It's because those towelheads are sand monkeys!
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the kurdish people havent been fighting in the insurgency...they're not the terrorists.
Turkey considers them terrorists.

the kurdish people havent been fighting in the insurgency...they're not the terrorists.

Oh, look, someone doesn't know about the Kurdish situation in Turkey and Iran, and also Iraq previous to the occupation, and seems stuck on thinking about this in terms of the to the matter relatively irrelevant Iraqi insurgency/resistance.

Oh, look, someone doesn't know about the Kurdish situation in Turkey and Iran, and also Iraq previous to the occupation, and seems stuck on thinking about this in terms of the to the matter relatively irrelevant Iraqi insurgency/resistance.

Well, everyone sees a threat in terms of their own group.

When was the last time any terrorists of any type blew up Sweden? I bet that most Swedes don't see any terrorists as a threat to Sweden.

Oh, look, someone doesn't know about the Kurdish situation in Turkey and Iran, and also Iraq previous to the occupation, and seems stuck on thinking about this in terms of the to the matter relatively irrelevant Iraqi insurgency/resistance.


I dont care if the kurds are attacking turkey and iran. i really dont care about the well being of people in the middle east. And iraq prior to the occupation. All i care about is that insurgency because thats really the only place where americans are being killed, and its not by kurds, so as of now, they dont piss me off.

and still Iran shouldnt be shelling Iraq. That is an act of war regardless of reason.

Well, everyone sees a threat in terms of their own group.

Doesn't alter the actions of such organisations as the PKK.

When was the last time any terrorists of any type blew up Sweden?

Blew up Sweden? I'd think that'd be pretty hard to accomplish...

I bet that most Swedes don't see any terrorists as a threat to Sweden.

Your wager is imprudent.

I dont care if the kurds are attacking turkey and iran. i really dont care about the well being of people in the middle east. And iraq prior to the occupation. All i care about is that insurgency because thats really the only place where americans are being killed, and its not by kurds, so as of now, they dont piss me off.

So, basically you know nothing about the situation and are quite happy in making that ignorance all too apparent, and are also content with it. Quelle surprise...

and still Iran shouldnt be shelling Iraq. That is an act of war regardless of reason.

Just as I thought: the neo-con must support terrorists in order to paint Iran as more evil, and then hypocricise about not shelling other countries because they have terrorists in them.

So, basically you know nothing about the situation and are quite happy in making that ignorance all too apparent, and are also content with it. Quelle surprise...


are you drunk? I dont care who is the terrorist here, alright. Iran is shelling Iraq. Killing civilians. Sure, the kurds are terrorits, whoop. What im saying is that a month ago when hezbollah attacked israel the world shat a brick and we had a war on our hands, but when Iran shells Iraq nobody seems to lift a finger, and the story is appearing on page 8 in the newspaper.

"Hypocricise"? Call the people at the OED. Fass just created a new word. :p

Quelle surprise...



MON DIEUX! Vouz parlez Francais aussi?


you're not the only one. What, do you think that adding a little french to your post makes you sound smarter or something?


tip: it doesnt.

"Hypocricise"? Call the people at the OED. Fass just created a new word. :p

It is my prerogative to do so, as it is the prerogative of anyone who uses any language.

are you drunk? I dont care who is the terrorist here, alright. Iran is shelling Iraq. Killing civilians. Sure, the kurds are terrorits, whoop. What im saying is that a month ago when hezbollah attacked israel the world shat a brick and we had a war on our hands, but when Iran shells Iraq nobody seems to lift a finger, and the story is appearing on page 8 in the newspaper.
Well, apparently Iran is alot better at shelling terrorists than Israel is with all its precision weaponry and strike capability because its 2 dead in 4 days, not 3 dead 15 wounded in one blast.

MON DIEUX! Vouz parlez Francais aussi?

Pas si souvent par ici, comme les modérateurs en ont peur... ne me demandez pas pourquoi. J'ai des idées, mais il ne faut pas les rendre fâcheux...

you're not the only one. What, do you think that adding a little french to your post makes you sound smarter or something?

tip: it doesnt.

Oh, look. It's getting pissy for me using an idiom that is otherwise quite prevalent in English, having a certain je ne sais quoi...

you're not the only one. What, do you think that adding a little french to your post makes you sound smarter or something?

tip: it doesnt.
Non, ça rend son message sexy. Tout le monde sait que le français est la langue de l'amour.

It is my prerogative to do so, as it is the prerogative of anyone who uses any language.

Sorry, mate, just had to yank your chain on that one. ;)

MON DIEUX! Vouz parlez Francais aussi?


you're not the only one. What, do you think that adding a little french to your post makes you sound smarter or something?


tip: it doesnt.
Ah, it kinda does.

are you drunk? I dont care who is the terrorist here, alright. Iran is shelling Iraq. Killing civilians. Sure, the kurds are terrorits, whoop. What im saying is that a month ago when hezbollah attacked israel the world shat a brick and we had a war on our hands, but when Iran shells Iraq nobody seems to lift a finger, and the story is appearing on page 8 in the newspaper.

And here we have you finding fault in the action when Iran does it, but not when Israel does... hypocrisy about hypocrisy, oh, my! Psst: everyone had a problem with Israel's disproportionate response. The Iranian one seems quite more level...

Oh, look. It's getting pissy for me using an idiom that is otherwise quite prevalent in English, having a certain je ne sais quoi...


ACTUALLY, i dont know many people who sprinkle nittle french idioms into daily conversation.

And here we have you finding fault in the action when Iran does it, but not when Israel does... hypocrisy about hypocrisy, oh, my!



Lebanon supported the terrorist organization which started the conflict. last i checked Iraq and the kurds didnt have the greatest relationship.

Pas si souvent par ici, comme les modérateurs en ont peur... ne me demandez pas pourquoi. J'ai des idées, mais il ne faut pas les rendre fâcheux...


Cripes, how many languages have you got in that head? Mine can only hold two and a half (the half because I've forgotten a lot of my Latin, but it's a dead language anyway, only really useful if I run across any ancient Romans :p ), along with bits of others.

ACTUALLY, i dont know many people who sprinkle nittle french idioms into daily conversation.
Fronti nulla fides.

Cripes, how many languages have you got in that head? Mine can only hold two and a half (the half because I've forgotten a lot of my Latin, but it's a dead language anyway, only really useful if I run across any ancient Romans :p ), along with bits of others.


He's only got 1 and a good translation program.

ACTUALLY, i dont know many people who sprinkle nittle french idioms into daily conversation.

Then you're the only one, I'm guessing.

Cripes, how many languages have you got in that head? Mine can only hold two and a half (the half because I've forgotten a lot of my Latin, but it's a dead language anyway, only really useful if I run across any ancient Romans :p ), along with bits of others.

I'm from a small, European country. Knowing other languages is vital for my sanity.

I'm from a small, European country. Knowing other languages is vital for my sanity.
I'm from the US. Knowing other languages is fun.

Then you're the only one, I'm guessing.

you're guessing wrong then, definately not the first time. Dont worry, though, it happens to the best of us.

He's only got 1 and a good translation program.

You underestimate him, I'm afraid.

He's only got 1 and a good translation program.

Min mörka, skamliga, hederslösa (och förhoppningsvis sedeslösa) hemlighet har blivit avslöjad. Vad göra? Hur fortsätta? *för handryggen mot pannan, uttalar en lite suckande ynklighet, svimmar strax därpå*

He's only got 1 and a good translation program.
I'd wager he knows at least 3: french, english and swedish. I imagine he can hold his own in either danish or finnish and might have passing knowledge of german.

Without a translation program. We, of the north american continent, are just lazy when it comes to languages.

I'm from a small, European country. Knowing other languages is vital for my sanity.

How many do you speak, though? I'm curious. As you know, I'm from the US. I speak only English and Spanish, the latter of which is becoming more and more useful here (and it's also allowed me to be able to understand a lot of other Romance languages, though only written).

Lebanon supported the terrorist organization which started the conflict. last i checked Iraq and the kurds didnt have the greatest relationship.

Sure, honey, we're supposed to believe the US doesn't support Iran's enemies. It's not like they've done it before or anything...

Min mörka, skamliga, hederslösa (och förhoppningsvis sedeslösa) hemlighet har blivit avslöjad. Vad göra? Hur fortsätta? *för handryggen mot pannan, uttalar en lite suckande ynklighet, svimmar strax därpå*

Ah, your deep, dark secret has been exposed...

Ná bí do mo chrá leis na thread amaideach, Amadenijad.

And here we have you finding fault in the action when Iran does it, but not when Israel does... hypocrisy about hypocrisy, oh, my! Psst: everyone had a problem with Israel's disproportionate response. The Iranian one seems quite more level...
Both where wrong, but since the Iranian shelling has ended already there is no need for an intervention.

The Israeli case was quite dissimilar from this one, for there was a more heavy form of shelling...


I am actually wondering why it did make headlines...

As these minor attacks happen regularly (not condoning here) in certain clonflict prone border areas...

In Kashmir it doesn't make headlines, nor in DR of Congo... There are many places where these skirmishes do not make headlines

So, why do they when Iran is involved?

Oh, and Baguetten, if you're going to put your hand to your forehead, sigh, and subsequently faint, you need to know that makes you a drama queen.

Ná bí do mo chrá leis na thread amaideach, Amadenijad.
dammit, I don't know gaelic yet.

Ah, your deep, dark secret has been exposed...

That he's Swedish? Ohnoes!!!1one :p

Ná bí do mo chrá leis na thread amaideach, Amadenijad.

Da, to je tacno. Necu ni ja vise dati hrane ovome malom da jede... bilo je smjesno, ali sada je samo dosadno.

Oh, and Baguetten, if you're going to put your hand to your forehead, sigh, and subsequently faint, you need to know that makes you a drama queen.

Yeah, what else is new?

dammit, I don't know gaelic yet.

Drop the "-stan" from my name, and it is Gaelic. ;)