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COMMENTARY: Good job. Not sure about the troops involved-Possibly Canadian, British, or American, but who cares? Good job, and good hunting. 71 less bad guys sucking up oxygen in Afghanistan.




Up to 71 Taliban killed in southern Afghanistan


2 hours, 38 minutes ago




Around 71 Taliban and at least five Afghan police or soldiers have been killed when Afghan and NATO-led troops beat back a late-night attack by scores of rebels in southern Afghanistan, officials said.


Taliban fighters stormed a bazaar in the notoriously volatile Panjwayi district of Kandahar province late Saturday, district governor Niaz Mohammad Sarhadi told AFP.


As they clashed with police, reinforcements from the Afghan army and police and NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) surrounded the area and confronted the attackers, a resident said.


After the fighting 34 Taliban bodies were found scattered in the town, the governor said. Eleven were found in a nearby village and there were reports that attackers may have taken another 25 bodies away with them, he said.


The commander of Afghan army forces in the south, General Rahmatullah Raufi, gave the same figures. An Afghan soldier was also "martyred", he said.


A district police officer who did not want to be identified said four police were killed, three wounded and three missing.


ISAF confirmed it had responded to the attack, including with airplanes. A figure of 30-40 enemy killed was "reasonable" but ISAF was still assessing the casualties, said spokesman Major Quentin Innes.


Panjwayi, about 35 kilometres (20 miles) west of Kandahar city, has seen several major clashes between security forces and the Taliban.


On August 3 a suicide bomber killed 21 civilians in an attack in the bazaar that appeared aimed at a passing ISAF convoy. It was one of the bloodiest in a stream of suicide blasts in Afghanistan carried out by the insurgents.


The hardliners have been waging a revolt since being removed from government in late 2001.



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You little...

That was funny :D

I'm pretty sure I know who would lament their end. ("North" heaven, "Sobbsworld", etc).

Poor underpriviliged brown skinned people ;)

*waits for liberals to enter and mourn the deaths of their heroes*
I think :rolleyes: fits here.

Well there's forty-five confirmed dead, and the Taliban 'may have' taken away another twenty-five. The other one was a suicide bomber, so not really anything to rejoice at.

Seriously 'bad guys'? People still say that?

I think rolleyes fits here.

Nope, sorry, fits better over here. :rolleyes:

What's the point of this thread again, or is it just trying to bait people?

Well there's forty-five confirmed dead, and the Taliban 'may have' taken away another twenty-five. The other one was a suicide bomber, so not really anything to rejoice at.

Seriously 'bad guys'? People still say that?

Yeah, I agree, scum of mankind fits better.

There IS good and bad in the world. Just like there is good and evil.

*waits for liberals to enter and mourn the deaths of their heroes*

The 5 cops/soldiers? Yeah, it is pretty sad but we'll get over it.

What's the point of this thread again, or is it just trying to bait people?

Nope, it's a good day.

*waits for liberals to enter and mourn the deaths of their heroes*
*waits for conservatives to come in and defame liberals.. oh wait, too late*

@ Designated Marksman

Ah, I see; what do you think will happen tomorrow, though? It's like fighting a hydra - kill 71 here, but just as many'll appear somewhere else later, inspired by tales of the fighting. Seems a bit redundant to celebrate this side of the war on terror, I mean.

@ Designated Marksman

Ah, I see; what do you think will happen tomorrow, though? It's like fighting a hydra - kill 71 here, but just as many'll appear somewhere else later, inspired by tales of the fighting. Seems a bit redundant to celebrate this side of the war on terror, I mean.
Ah, but no! No death of a "foe" (illegal immigrants, Arabs, you name it) could ever not be worth celebrating for DesignatedMarksman. Really now.

And you said my thread sucked?

What's the point of this thread again, or is it just trying to bait people?
*waits for liberals to enter and mourn the deaths of their heroes*
I'm pretty sure I know who would lament their end. ("North" heaven, "Sobbsworld", etc).

Maurisia was right - and DesignatedMarksman, you needs find a better bait shop. Them red wigglers is dead.

YEAH! PEOPLE DIED! FUCK YEAH! AMERICA!!! *fap fap fap*

YEAH! PEOPLE DIED! FUCK YEAH! AMERICA!!! *fap fap fap*
I love you. :fluffle:

*waits for liberals to enter and mourn the deaths of their heroes*

Lmao, I don't know why but i burst out laughing when i read that!! :D

And, yet, there are still Taliban democraticly elected on the Afghani parlaiment.

You have no clue who the "bad guys" are, do you?

And, yet, there are still Taliban democraticly elected on the Afghani parlaiment.

You have no clue who the "bad guys" are, do you?

The bad guys are the brown ones! Why do you hate the flag, hippie liberal communist? Go back to Canada!

Sounds like it was a productive day then. Another group of Fanatics biting the dust.

The bad guys are the brown ones! Why do you hate the flag, hippie liberal communist? Go back to Canada!

*tee hee*

And, yet, there are still Taliban democraticly elected on the Afghani parlaiment.

You have no clue who the "bad guys" are, do you?
What does it matter that some Afghans support the Taliban?

Maurisia was right - and DesignatedMarksman, you needs find a better bait shop. Them red wigglers is dead.

You mean the hadjis? Yes, they are dead.


@ Designated Marksman

Ah, I see; what do you think will happen tomorrow, though? It's like fighting a hydra - kill 71 here, but just as many'll appear somewhere else later, inspired by tales of the fighting. Seems a bit redundant to celebrate this side of the war on terror, I mean.

The production at LC facility was ramped up to 4 million rounds a week, we'd better put that to good use. Not to mention the enormous training potential-forget cardboard, use Mohammed.

The production at LC facility was ramped up to 4 million rounds a week, we'd better put that to good use. Not to mention the enormous training potential-forget cardboard, use Mohammed.

You are joking when you advocate the use of people instead of targets for training aren't you?

*waits for liberals to enter and mourn the deaths of their heroes*
*waits for latest puppet's words of wisdom..... :p

You mean the hadjis? Yes, they are dead.


Why do you say "hadjis" when what you really want to say is "towelhead," "raghead," "sand ******" or "doon coon?" Don't hold out just to be politically correct.

You little...

That was funny :D

I'm pretty sure I know who would lament their end. ("North" heaven, "Sobbsworld", etc).

Poor underpriviliged brown skinned people ;)
The only thing that I would lament would be your perception of Christianity. :rolleyes:

And, yet, there are still Taliban democraticly elected on the Afghani parlaiment.

You have no clue who the "bad guys" are, do you?

Umm the people responsible for 9/11?

They're in hell right now and so are a bunch of their buddies. Here's to terrorist group reunions!

Cheers!

You are joking when you advocate the use of people instead of targets for training aren't you?
Why should he?
The Japanese did just that during WWII, with Chinese and Allied POWs.
Also the Taliban did similar during the 1980's war with Russia

I'm sure DM loves the idea of being associated with the noble Japanese warriors of WWII and brave Taliban fighters who indulged in such practises.

Umm the people responsible for 9/11?

They're in hell right now and so are a bunch of their buddies. Here's to terrorist group reunions!

Cheers!
You are going to have a helluva time partying with these guys. Perhaps they will think that you are one of their 72 virgins? :p

Why should he?
The Japanese did just that during WWII, with Chinese and Allied POWs.
Also the Taliban did similar during the 1980's war with Russia

I'm sure DM loves the idea of being associated with the noble Japanese warriors of WWII and brave Taliban fighters who indulged in such practises. OMG! That's totally different!!!! The Japs were the baddies when they did those evil things, but we're the goodies so it's ok for us to do it! We represent the side of rainbows and lollipops and unicorns!

Seriously though. Dead is dead is dead. A person having their life taken away from them against their will is an utterly disgusting act. I can't believe after more than 4 billion years of evolution, we still feel that basic drive to bash each other's brains out.

What's the point of this thread again, or is it just trying to bait people?
I think he wants to be first in line as NS troll poster boy? :D

Why do you say "hadjis" when what you really want to say is "towelhead," "raghead," "sand ******" or "doon coon?" Don't hold out just to be politically correct.

I did use raghead a lot in reference to the bath towel garbed ak pumping & RPG toting Anti-American militants, however people here shatted kittens, so to be nice I layed off that and used Hadjis. They threw fits over that...oh well.

I even posted pictures of the typical garb of an arabic militant. AK Mag vest and towel over the head.

Although when referring to anti-American militants such as Hezzbollah, Hamas, and Alqaeda, the word that most truthfully describes them....

"Filthy savages!"

:D

You are joking when you advocate the use of people instead of targets for training aren't you?

No, I'm saying shoot more badguys. You can't replace training....How that saying go?

Everytime a Taliban fighter dies...9/11 is avenged.

I think he wants to be first in line as NS troll poster boy? :D


Oceandrive has me pw3ned and screaming like a little girl. The ## threads were the most annoying.

Oh...wait a sec.....

No, I'm saying shoot more badguys. You can't replace training....How that saying go?

Umm I don't know how that saying goes. Enlighten me please.

Umm I don't know how that saying goes. Enlighten me please.


"More sweat in training the less blood in battle".

Heard a DS at Ft sill say that to his recruits when one complained about conditions (After he was push-up'ed to exhaustion)

No, I'm saying shoot more badguys. You can't replace training....How that saying go?

Everytime a Taliban fighter dies...9/11 is avenged.
So wouldn't killing just one of them be appropriate? Since you've avenged 11/9 so many times already it seems even more ridiculous that people still refuse to just let it go.

No, I'm saying shoot more badguys. You can't replace training....How that saying go?

Everytime a Taliban fighter dies...9/11 is avenged.


Well then, it has been avenged already, and as you don't seem to distinguish between terrorists and Muslims in general, I'm sure plenty more than 2,996 Muslims have been killed since then. Are you satisfied?

Well then, it has been avenged already, and as you don't seem to distinguish between terrorists and Muslims in general, I'm sure plenty more than 2,996 Muslims have been killed since then. Are you satisfied?
If the terrorists are keeping a record as DM is, then the next terrorist attack will make 9/11 seem rather insignificant?

Umm the people responsible for 9/11?

Pretty much all dead ... that part of the war is long over. The Bushie whim is what we're currently dealing with.

Umm the people responsible for 9/11?

They're in hell right now and so are a bunch of their buddies. Here's to terrorist group reunions!
No, I'm saying shoot more badguys. You can't replace training....How that saying go?

Everytime a Taliban fighter dies...9/11 is avenged.
One day... maybe, I'm not holding my breath... You too may learn the difference between the Taliban and Al Quaida.

One day you may learn that the Taliban was not behind 9/11.

One day you might learn that education is your friend.

Why are people defending the Taliban? I don't like republicans, but even a silly liberal as me knows that people who use football stadiums to execute people better not be in reign. If they die while attacking people, than no tear from me.

I don't really think it has any use to start a topic about this though.

And the Dutch troops are very likely to have been involved.

So, what exactly is a dirt nap, anyway? The opposite of a wet nap? I mean, are we thinking "Look like you were in a three-day pitched battle with these easy-to-use dirt naps," or what?


Anyway...DM, your content and threads just keep getting worse. I mean, really... and I'm really not surprised you are talking about objective good/evil here...and whatnot.

Not saying it isn't evil, by my definition, but...

A British soldier has been killed in a gun battle with Taleban forces in southern Afghanistan. The soldier, who has not been named, was killed in the volatile Helmand province at about noon local time (830 BST), the Ministry of Defence said. He was serving with the 3rd Battalion of the Parachute Regiment, from Essex.

"The soldier died as a result of injuries sustained during the contact. Three other British soldiers received minor injuries," said an MoD spokesman.

Twenty UK armed forces personnel have died in Afghanistan since 2001.

The family of the soldier was in the process of being informed of the death, the MoD spokesman said.

Afghanistan is going through its bloodiest period since the fall of the Taleban five years ago. Much of the fighting has been concentrated in the south.

About 70 Taleban fighters have been killed in clashes with Nato-led troops and Afghan security forces there, according to local officials.

But a purported Taleban spokesman claimed only 12 fighters had been killed.

So, what exactly is a dirt nap, anyway? The opposite of a wet nap? I mean, are we thinking "Look like you were in a three-day pitched battle with these easy-to-use dirt naps," or what?


It's not the duration of the battle that counts. It's how many are dead on each side when you're done.

Looks a little imbalanced here. Taliban don't have advanced body armor and high quality weapons with optics.

Before you go jumping up and down in celebration...take a look at this lot

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5121552.stm

Troops are dying and all it is doing is adding more fuel to the fire of the fundamentalist argument...why do you think that more and more of the worlds Muslims are willing to fight?

It's not the duration of the battle that counts. It's how many are dead on each side when you're done.

Looks a little imbalanced here. Taliban don't have advanced body armor and high quality weapons with optics.


1. What?

2. With the first bit...are you....serious? Although I can understand that to an extent.

The bad guys are the brown ones! Why do you hate the flag, hippie liberal communist? Go back to Canada!

Woah! Somebody is off his meds.

There IS good and bad in the world. Just like there is good and evil.

which are you?

Woah! Somebody is off his meds.
Oh no, he's one of the sane people in here. The ones actually being sarcastic when they say stuff like that. The "good ones", if we were dealing in such terminology. But yeah, with all the brainfarts stinking up this thread I can see how one would easily get confused. ;)

ETA: Unless, of course, you were also being sarcastic, in which case I'll just shut up. :p

More fun to watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4639921789181083769&q=ac-130

More fun to watch thisI'm sure watching people get killed on camera is flirting with rule violation, even if it is from a long distance and with an IR camera...

I don't know about fun, but it was instructive - glad I saw it :)

But did they or didn't they blow up the mosque in the end (well, about 2/3s through, actually, but you know what I mean!)? They kept changing terminology for it - mosque, building, target - as their priorities switched, so it was hard to tell.

Also fascinating to see how easy it is to blow people up without thinking of them as, well, people - they're just littlle white dots called 'targets' on the screen. Not like earlier wars, where you see your enemy's guts/charred bodies - just clean dots and explosions.

Pretty much all dead ... that part of the war is long over. The Bushie whim is what we're currently dealing with.

Umm....hate to break it to you but they're still not dead yet. AQ certainly isn't. We've got a bunch of their guys in Gitmo we need to get rid of, and they are recruiting more.

Well then, it has been avenged already, and as you don't seem to distinguish between terrorists and Muslims in general, I'm sure plenty more than 2,996 Muslims have been killed since then. Are you satisfied?

It hasn't been avenged nearly enough. AQ still exists, even in the haphazard state it is...


So wouldn't killing just one of them be appropriate? Since you've avenged 11/9 so many times already it seems even more ridiculous that people still refuse to just let it go.

We're going to hold this grudge until we finish the job. Not going through is what let the puzzle peices slip together in the first place. Clinton didn't get osama, neither did Bush (OR finish off Saddam), and now look what we are dealing with.


So, what exactly is a dirt nap, anyway? The opposite of a wet nap? I mean, are we thinking "Look like you were in a three-day pitched battle with these easy-to-use dirt naps," or what?


Anyway...DM, your content and threads just keep getting worse. I mean, really... and I'm really not surprised you are talking about objective good/evil here...and whatnot.

Not saying it isn't evil, by my definition, but...

what happens after you die and get buried under 6 feet of terra firma. Those 71 are now a little deeper though, on fire and burning.


One day... maybe, I'm not holding my breath... You too may learn the difference between the Taliban and Al Quaida.

One day you may learn that the Taliban was not behind 9/11.

One day you might learn that education is your friend.

The Taliban sheltered, gave aid and comfort to the Alqaeda. They even came out and publicly praised the 9/11 hijackers. They're also islamic radicals. They're fair game, and deserve a dirt nap, and the OP says they got their just desserts.

I'm sure watching people get killed on camera is flirting with rule violation, even if it is from a long distance and with an IR camera...

I don't think so. NL posted chinese execution vids that were blood/gore free...

More fun to watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4639921789181083769&q=ac-130

oldy but a goody. Fun to watch them scamper around like insects wonder WTF is going on.

the OP says they got their just desserts
Erm, you were the OP. Did you have to check with yourself, DM?

Erm, you were the OP. Did you have to check with yourself, DM?

Original post.

Original poster

Original posse

Orangutang pregnancy

So many meanings for OP. In my case it was original post....

oldy but a goody. Fun to watch them scamper around like insects wonder WTF is going on.
You're reprehensible, DM.

You're reprehensible, DM.

Huh?

We're watching a video of an AC130 targeting a Taliban/AQ Camp in Afghanistan right? I've seen the video a few times. Is this one of hezzbollah rocketing haifa, or 9/11 victims jumping off of the Twin towers?

Huh?

I quoted two short sentences of yours. Which of the two do you suppose elicited my response and why?

That 'deer caught in the headlights' pose doesn't wash with me, sonny Jim.

I quoted two short sentences of yours. Which of the two do you suppose elicited my response and why?

That 'deer caught in the headlights' pose doesn't wash with me, sonny Jim.

Reprehensible for watching militants who supported a gov't that enabled the people that intentionally murdered 3,000 of my countrymen get bushwhacked? I'm elated.

I hold life dear, but their lives aren't worth more than my own, or my family, both of whom are in their crosshairs.

Reprehensible for watching militants who supported a gov't that enabled the people that intentionally murdered 3,000 of my countrymen get bushwhacked?

I hold life dear, but their lives aren't worth more than my own, or my family, both of whom are in their crosshairs.
I'll explain it for you, then as your analytical skills are up to their usual sub-par level:

You're reprehensible because you said it's "Fun to watch them scamper around like insects".

*clicks tongue disapprovingly*



You dehumanize at the peril of your Christian soul, DM.

I'll explain it for you, then as your analytical skills are up to their usual sub-par level:

You're reprehensible because you said it's "Fun to watch them scamper around like insects".

*clicks tongue disapprovingly*



You dehumanize at the peril of your Christian soul, DM.

I called them what they were, which is the truth-they're insects. It's the closest definition I could find for Al qaeda and the taliban.

Give my regards to Satan.

Give my regards to Satan.

the taco which is eaten by the colliflower's ex wife's cousin twice removed the chair is against the wall whiskeytangofoxtrotalphatangokilodeltamanaen


I view Satan as being on the same side as Aq/Taliban.....

You probably know I feel somewhat strongly about all of this....

I called them what they were, which is the truth-they're insects. It's the closest definition I could find for Al qaeda and the taliban.

Murdering bastards works too...

It hasn't been avenged nearly enough. AQ still exists, even in the haphazard state it is...

So ... by your standards, the entire nation of Germany should have been completely and utterly wiped off the map in order for WWII to be over?

Man ... that war will *never* end! Hell ... there are even still Nazis!

http://www.americannaziparty.com/

So we *still* haven't won WWII?

the taco which is eaten by the colliflower's ex wife's cousin twice removed the chair is against the wall whiskeytangofoxtrotalphatangokilodeltamanaen

Are you drunk again? *tsk* ... Pass me the bottle.

The Taliban sheltered, gave aid and comfort to the Alqaeda. They even came out and publicly praised the 9/11 hijackers. They're also islamic radicals. They're fair game, and deserve a dirt nap, and the OP says they got their just desserts.
And do you know enough about Afghani culture to know why they gave shelter to Al Quaida?

And you are the OP - you say they deserve a dirt nap because it somehow avenges 9/11 everytime one of these guys die? You are delusional and a fine example of the extremist way of thinking that is the root cause of all this trouble.

There are no absolutes, no absolute good and absolute evil. There are a lot of gray areas between the two extremes. And you should be glad there is - if there weren't, you'd be in the same category as the Taliban, with your horrible dehumanizing attitudes and your utter disregard of humanity and human life.

Good day.

And do you know enough about Afghani culture to know why they gave shelter to Al Quaida?

And you are the OP - you say they deserve a dirt nap because it somehow avenges 9/11 everytime one of these guys die? You are delusional and a fine example of the extremist way of thinking that is the root cause of all this trouble.

There are no absolutes, no absolute good and absolute evil. There are a lot of gray areas between the two extremes. And you should be glad there is - if there weren't, you'd be in the same category as the Taliban, with your horrible dehumanizing attitudes and your utter disregard of humanity and human life.

Good day.


You don't have to do the good/evil thing.

I think of it the way the Mongols did. You cooperate, and we get along fine. You resist, and we slaughter you and everything in your region.

You don't have to do the good/evil thing.

I think of it the way the Mongols did. You cooperate, and we get along fine. You resist, and we slaughter you and everything in your region.

Of course, the Mongols never pretended they were anything but barbaric savages...

Huh?

We're watching a video of an AC130 targeting a Taliban/AQ Camp in Afghanistan right? I've seen the video a few times. Is this one of hezzbollah rocketing haifa, or 9/11 victims jumping off of the Twin towers?I'd find people making similar comments about those equally disgusting.

Of course, the Mongols never pretended they were anything but barbaric savages...
On the contrary. While they may not have put out bullshit PR about themselves, they did carry a large retinue of Chinese scholars on every mission. They would pilfer the libraries and other buildings for art and literature before the Mongols burned the places to the ground.

They also set up very favorable conditions for merchants along their communication routes, and were exemplars of religious freedom. If you were of any religion in areas under their control, you could practice, knowing that if people of anothe religion attacked you the Mongols would kill them.

Rule by force. Sometimes, it's all that some people understand.

You're saying Genghis wasn't a pastry chef?
No, he was only a saucier.

Of course, the Mongols never pretended they were anything but barbaric savages...

You're saying Genghis wasn't a pastry chef?

Of course, the Mongols never pretended they were anything but barbaric savages...

That's the point. USA is selling his war on terror to the world saying that they are sacrificing themselves for "The Freedom of the world". At least ye olde Genghis was honest, he was a barbarian looking for conquest and that's it.

On the contrary. While they may not have put out bullshit PR about themselves, they did carry a large retinue of Chinese scholars on every mission. They would pilfer the libraries and other buildings for art and literature before the Mongols burned the places to the ground.

They also set up very favorable conditions for merchants along their communication routes, and were exemplars of religious freedom. If you were of any religion in areas under their control, you could practice, knowing that if people of anothe religion attacked you the Mongols would kill them.

Rule by force. Sometimes, it's all that some people understand.

The Mongols had some clever hangers-on, who they didn't mind tagging along, so long as they weren't in the way. They also instituted some tough iron-glove policies.

Neither of which alters the fact that they were barbaric and savage... and didn't pretend otherwise.

The Mongols had some clever hangers-on, who they didn't mind tagging along, so long as they weren't in the way. They also instituted some tough iron-glove policies.

Neither of which alters the fact that they were barbaric and savage... and didn't pretend otherwise.

Yes, which is why I admire them. They were survivors, unclouded by conscience, or delusions of morality.

Yes, which is why I admire them. They were survivors, unclouded by conscience, or delusions of morality.

And they left a legacy that stood the test of time.

No - wait... they were in a flash in the pan, that vanished into obscurity the moment their charismatic leadership was gone... and left almost nothing behind them to celebrate their passing, except a trail of rape and murder.

Maybe I want something better than a trail of tears.

And they left a legacy that stood the test of time.

No - wait... they were in a flash in the pan, that vanished into obscurity the moment their charismatic leadership was gone... and left almost nothing behind them to celebrate their passing, except a trail of rape and murder.

Maybe I want something better than a trail of tears.

Ah, but if you combine the Mongol methods with a superpower that allows liberty at home, and a method of replacing leadership over time...

Ah, but if you combine the Mongol methods with a superpower that allows liberty at home, and a method of replacing leadership over time...

It would be interesting to see how one could pair 'liberty at home' with "unclouded by conscience, or delusions of morality"... the two ideals just don't seem to gel.

Of course - first we'd have to find a nation that DID 'allow liberty at home'.

It would be interesting to see how one could pair 'liberty at home' with "unclouded by conscience, or delusions of morality"... the two ideals just don't seem to gel.

Of course - first we'd have to find a nation that DID 'allow liberty at home'.

At any rate, modern governments are much better at surviving changes of head of state than the Mongols. And they have much more lethal weaponry.

At any rate, modern governments are much better at surviving changes of head of state than the Mongols. And they have much more lethal weaponry.Not to mention that genocide or indescriminate slaughter is generally frowned upon...

Not to mention that genocide or indescriminate slaughter is generally frowned upon...
Let's see...

What did the UN do about Kosovo..... nothing. Only after NATO moved first did they "approve" anything.

What did the UN do about Rwanda.... nothing.

What did the UN do about the gassing and killing of over 100,000 Kurds by Saddam (for which he is now on trial)... nothing.

Words. Empty, useless, meaningless words. The UN (and by extension the international community, and I include the US in this) are willing to sell the souls of millions in exchange for the right to blow platitudes out of their asses.

Let's see...

What did the UN do about Kosovo..... nothing. Only after NATO moved first did they "approve" anything.

What did the UN do about Rwanda.... nothing.

What did the UN do about the gassing and killing of over 100,000 Kurds by Saddam (for which he is now on trial)... nothing.

Words. Empty, useless, meaningless words. The UN (and by extension the international community, and I include the US in this) are willing to sell the souls of millions in exchange for the right to blow platitudes out of their asses.I see. Because they failed to do anything, they must have obviously supported it. :rolleyes:

I wonder though: Is this your argument in favor of a strategy similar to that used by the Mongols? If yes, it's a pretty poor argument. If not, it's a pretty poor UN bashing hijack...

I see. Because they failed to do anything, they must have obviously supported it. :rolleyes:

I wonder though: Is this your argument in favor of a strategy similar to that used by the Mongols? If yes, it's a pretty poor argument. If not, it's a pretty poor UN bashing hijack...

I doubt if anyone would stop the US from using Mongol tactics in places that weren't directly near their home countries.

There would be a lot of weeping and wailing, but no one would stop it.

I doubt if anyone would stop the US from using Mongol tactics in places that weren't directly near their home countries.

There would be a lot of weeping and wailing, but no one would stop it.

I'd love to see US soldiers riding around on horses, shooting arrows from the saddle. Raping and killing willy-nilly!

Too bad Mongol tactics have been obsolete for at least a century.

Unless you meant Mongol strategy. No, you couldn't have. As a soldier, you wouldn't make that mistake.

I'd love to see US soldiers riding around on horses, shooting arrows from the saddle. Raping and killing willy-nilly!

Too bad Mongol tactics have been obsolete for at least a century.

Unless you meant Mongol strategy. No, you couldn't have. As a soldier, you wouldn't make that mistake.

I think you know what I meant.

On a tactical level, it would mean killing everyone in sight by use of infantry.

Oh, but don't people accuse US and Israeli forces of that anyway?

If we're going to be accused of it, we might as well do it.

And they left a legacy that stood the test of time.

No - wait... they were in a flash in the pan, that vanished into obscurity the moment their charismatic leadership was gone... and left almost nothing behind them to celebrate their passing, except a trail of rape and murder.

Maybe I want something better than a trail of tears.
Um you might want to check those history books. The Mongols forged both China and Russia. That's a pretty enduring testament.

Yes, which is why I admire them. They were survivors, unclouded by conscience, or delusions of morality.
How can a Christian oppose morality? It just makes no sense at all.

But do you really oppose it? You think that intervention in Europe to end the holocaust was the right thing to do, don't you? You have said this before.

Um you might want to check those history books. The Mongols forged both China and Russia. That's a pretty enduring testament.
Um you might want to back up your assertion there. That's a pretty broad and sweeping supposition.

Um you might want to back up your assertion there. That's a pretty broad and sweeping supposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire
Pwned.