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With the level of security scrutiny on "visibly Arab persons" these days, do you think radical Islamic groups may try to recruit individuals that look Caucasian or other non-Arabs to perform their operations?

For them it would make operational sense. Not that hard to do either, I'm sure there are a few radical Chechens who are compatiable with their cause.

Dress him up in a suit, give him a good false passport and train the language/accent a bit. He looks just like any other traveller.

Scary thought.

John Walker Lindh?

I'd be surprised if they haven't already. Think John Walker Lindh, only competent.

And of course, if you're a right-wing pundit, you already claim they have--they're called the liberal media. ;)

IRA comes to mind

IRA comes to mind

Nah, nobody cares about them, even though an offshoot who were responsible for the Omagh bombing (Real IRA) last week commited the worst terrorist attacks in Europe since the London bombings.

It's only Muslims we're meant to be scared of.

Guess it's possible.

It's been done.

Also, black Al-Qaeda members.

Although, again, I'm more scared of drunk drivers on the road ramming into me than a "potential terrorist."

Fuck paranoia.

That would certainly be an effective tactic, as we use racial profiling against Arabs in search for terrorists. Still, it may not matter in the end as airport security is a joke. This recent ban of liquids just proves that when you continually hear of how easy it is to bring a knife on board while security throws out your toothpaste.

A couple of my friends who've been to Iraq have told me that they keep their eyes peeled for dudes who look European, espescially redheads, yet dress like the locals. When they see folks who match that description, they are pretty damn certain that it's a Chechen with a bomb around his waist, or an AK-47 under his robes.

I'd be surprised if they haven't already. Think John Walker Lindh, only competent.

And of course, if you're a right-wing pundit, you already claim they have--they're called the liberal media. ;)
Here's a question then, would you, assuming the know-how (fluency in farsi/arabic, etc), use that to embezzle money from Al-Qaeda?

Here's a question then, would you, assuming the know-how (fluency in farsi/arabic, etc), use that to embezzle money from Al-Qaeda?
No thanks. One of my rules is that you never fuck with the money of people who don't give two shits about whether you live or die.

No thanks. One of my rules is that you never fuck with the money of people who don't give two shits about whether you live or die.

That and Al'Qaeda cells tend to be inexpensive and cost-effective operations. It's not like you're looting Cobra or SPECTRE.

That and Al'Qaeda cells tend to be inexpensive and cost-effective operations. It's not like you're looting Cobra or SPECTRE.They could be funded by the Congress, and I still wouldn't fuck with their cash. I'm allergic to crazy motherfuckers with guns.

You have one of them being illegally held in Guantanamo bay detention facility. His name is David Hicks. He's white, and Aussie. They picked him up in Afghanistan, I think. At one of their terrorist training camps. (Presumably, we don't actually know, because he has not been afforded the right to a fair trial)

You have one of them being illegally held in Guantanamo bay detention facility. His name is David Hicks. He's white, and Aussie. They picked him up in Afghanistan, I think. At one of their terrorist training camps. (Presumably, we don't actually know, because he has not been afforded the right to a fair trial)

He was probably sold to the americans by a local warlord. Easiest way to make money in Afghanistan for the past few years has been to sell 'terrorists'.

They'd have to find a large, reliable source of Caucasian operatives first; honestly, outside of Chechnya and parts of the former Communist bloc I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many people willing to fight and die for radical Islam so chances are there wouldn't be many available outside of those regions.

Honestly, I think a bigger threat would be terrorists from Southeast Asia; that area has a larger Muslim population than the Middle East and is the fastest growing Islamic religious community on Earth, and it also has problems with radicals infiltrating local communities so it will likely be a source of terrorists in the future. At the same time, however, a lot of the problem existent in the Middle East that contribute to terrorism aren't present or are much less severe in most of SE Asia so it might put a damper on the spread of radical Islam.

If we work off the assumption that "terrorists" are Islamic extremists, then yes. The previously cited Aussie is just one example. Not just the Chechyens, either-I imagine that an capable and determined missionary can find a minority of converts devout enough to go for martyrdom.

Vetalia makes a good point, actually. If you check the BBC country profile, it's Indonesia that has the world largest Muslim population. Still, we are damned lucky the conditions in Indonesia aren't as likely to inspire the move from faithful to fanatic as the conditions in Gaza or Saudi Arabia. There's no convenient regional foe, and the government doesn't actively encourage the Islamic faith.

You have one of them being illegally held in Guantanamo bay detention facility. His name is David Hicks. He's white, and Aussie. They picked him up in Afghanistan, I think. At one of their terrorist training camps. (Presumably, we don't actually know, because he has not been afforded the right to a fair trial)

*Raises American flag in the air*

Wait... doesn't that violate what our country stands for?

*Raises American flag in the air*

Wait... doesn't that violate what our country stands for?

Pssst... just keep waving the flag and shout "America, FUCK YEAH!!" over and over or they'll take you away too.

Pssst... just keep waving the flag and shout "America, FUCK YEAH!!" over and over or they'll take you away too.

Should I also watch Nascar and eat KFC every day just to be on the safe side?

Should I also watch Nascar and eat KFC every day just to be on the safe side?
People actually watch Nascar?

Should I also watch Nascar and eat KFC every day just to be on the safe side?

Couldn't hurt. Also, if you set up a small altar to Dubya somewhere in public view they'll actually hesitate and wonder if they should take you away.

:D

Well, they do shout allahu ackbar, can't be to hard to spot them.

I'd recruit obese Indonesians. Pass em off as Samoans. Everybody trusts Samoans. And there is far more person to hide explosives on. *nod*

People actually watch Nascar?

Nascar rules dude.

Danica Patrick baby! WOOT! Floats my boat.

And the trailer.

Nascar rules dude.

Danica Patrick baby! WOOT! Floats my boat.

And the trailer.

Which is why Bush cut New York's Homeland Security Budget and spent it on the MidWest. Terrorists might target NASCAR.

Well, they do shout allahu ackbar, can't be to hard to spot them.

Time to replace "allahu ackbar" with "Admiral Ackbar"...that'll throw them off.

With the level of security scrutiny on "visibly Arab persons" these days, do you think radical Islamic groups may try to recruit individuals that look Caucasian or other non-Arabs to perform their operations?

For them it would make operational sense. Not that hard to do either, I'm sure there are a few radical Chechens who are compatiable with their cause.

Dress him up in a suit, give him a good false passport and train the language/accent a bit. He looks just like any other traveller.

Scary thought.

Some other specific non-Arab al Qaida operatives or persons otherwise associated w/ al Qaida not mentioned yet:
Adam Gadahn, Richard Reid, José Padilla, Jeffrey Leon Battle, and Patrice Lumumba Ford.

I expect there are also some Bosnian, Albanian, and non-Arab African operatives or hangers on, in addition to the Chechens already mentioned.

People actually watch Nascar?

Err... yes. In fact, it's popularity is growing pretty fast.