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Maybe airlines will have to stop taking Arabic-speaking passengers who look like they're from the Middle East.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770

Either that, or go out of business.

Maybe they'll have to have separate flights for them.

The government is apparently not doing enough to assuage the fears of the public.

British holidaymakers staged an unprecedented mutiny - refusing to allow their flight to take off until two men they feared were terrorists were forcibly removed.

The extraordinary scenes happened after some of the 150 passengers on a Malaga-Manchester flight overheard two men of Asian appearance apparently talking Arabic.

Passengers told cabin crew they feared for their safety and demanded police action. Some stormed off the Monarch Airlines Airbus A320 minutes before it was due to leave the Costa del Sol at 3am. Others waiting for Flight ZB 613 in the departure lounge refused to board it.

The incident fuels the row over airport security following the arrest of more than 20 people allegedly planning the suicide-bombing of transatlantic jets from the UK to America. It comes amid growing demands for passenger-profiling and selective security checks.

It also raised fears that more travellers will take the law into their own hands - effectively conducting their own 'passenger profiles'.

Well, most terrorists are from the ME/ME looking.

Maybe they should introduce nautical law to airliners. Y'know, if you mutiny, it's okay to shoot you.

If I owned the airline, I'd have told everyone on the plane they were welcome to get off, but that they weren't getting a refund. Of course, I'll never own an airline either.

And why do I suspect you're pretty gleeful about this, DK?

Discriminatory business practices will help tank a company faster than customers paranoid about two men speaking Arabic.

I should add that your thread title is more than misleading, since security was not an issue in this story--racism was the issue, plain and simple. I wonder if those Arabic passengers can sue for emotional distress--I'd hit the airline and every one of the passengers who complained.

Discriminatory business practices will help tank a company faster than customers paranoid about two men speaking Arabic.
Doubtful, when 150 people out of 152 support it...

the phrase 'fuck you you racist, enjoy the walk' springs to mind

If I owned the airline, I'd have told everyone on the plane they were welcome to get off, but that they weren't getting a refund. Of course, I'll never own an airline either.

And why do I suspect you're pretty gleeful about this, DK?
If you don't board, you always get a refund. Regardless of the reason. And if the passengers don't get their way (the majority of passengers), you go out of business.

It's called "a tight market for airlines". None of them can afford the impact of having a large percentage of their passengers walk off the plane.

Going to tell me now that everyone still loves to fly with Muslims?

Looks like you're wrong.

Well, most terrorists are from the ME/ME looking.

this is England most terrorist are Irish...and pissed (they do bomb bars so I naturally assumed)

I hope the plane crashes in Saudi Arabia so that when they got a rescue flight they aren’t allowed on board because they look like imperialists (and that they all catch crabs)

Doubtful, when 150 people out of 152 support it...
When you consider that an airline runs dozens of flights a day, one flight's worth of paranoid travelers does not exactly represent a good sample to base company-wide discriminatory policy off of.

If you don't board, you always get a refund. Regardless of the reason. And if the passengers don't get their way (the majority of passengers), you go out of business.

It's called "a tight market for airlines". None of them can afford the impact of having a large percentage of their passengers walk off the plane.

Going to tell me now that everyone still loves to fly with Muslims?

Looks like you're wrong.
One flight does not a large percentage of passengers make.

When you consider that an airline runs dozens of flights a day, one flight's worth of paranoid travelers does not exactly represent a good sample to base company-wide discriminatory policy off of.
No reason it won't spread.

Going to tell me now that everyone still loves to fly with Muslims?

Muslims?

Or Arab speakers?

No reason it won't spread.
No reason it would spread.

If I owned the airline, I'd have told everyone on the plane they were welcome to get off, but that they weren't getting a refund. Of course, I'll never own an airline either.

And why do I suspect you're pretty gleeful about this, DK?Shortly after 9/11, one American (ethic, not company) pilot told his passengers, "If anyone looks like they will attempt a hijacking, feel free to throw things at them, tackle them do whatever it take to get them on the floor and subduded, we do have items that can be used to restrain them, such as belt extensions and cord. By working together, we can prevent another tradegy."

this is England most terrorist are Irish...and pissed (they do bomb bars so I naturally assumed)

I hope the plane crashes in Saudi Arabia so that when they got a rescue flight they aren’t allowed on board because they look like imperialists (and that they all catch crabs)

Well that's OK, it's perfectly fine to discriminate against white people. But not minorities, that's evil.

Oh snaps racism at it's best! :)

No reason it would spread.
Care to place a bet? The passengers in this case got away with it.

The two Arabic speakers can't sue the other passengers. The company is required to give them their money back.

Going to tell me now that everyone still loves to fly with Muslims?

Looks like you're wrong.

don't get the wrong idea the odds are these passengers are from Milton Keynes or maybe Rushden

I’d say I’m comfortable with flying with Muslims (more so actually since at least I’m not sitting next to a baby or something)

If you don't board, you always get a refund. Regardless of the reason. And if the passengers don't get their way (the majority of passengers), you go out of business.

It's called "a tight market for airlines". None of them can afford the impact of having a large percentage of their passengers walk off the plane.

Going to tell me now that everyone still loves to fly with Muslims?

Looks like you're wrong.
Read your own article:Some stormed off the Monarch Airlines Airbus A320 minutes before it was due to leave the Costa del Sol at 3am.
Those people wouldn't get a penny back, and again, if I were in charge, I'd work actively to fuck them with other airlines, modes of transportation and accomodations. But I'm not in charge of an airline, and probably with good reason.

And I've been meaning to say this for a while--others have been doing it, but I feel it's incumbent on me to say it as well. You know as well as anyone that 1) all Arab-speaking people are not Muslims and 2) all Muslims are not terrorists. Your continued equation of the two is nothing more than racism, and it backs up my long-time opinion of you.

Shortly after 9/11, one American (ethic, not company) pilot told his passengers, "If anyone looks like they will attempt a hijacking, feel free to throw things at them, tackle them do whatever it take to get them on the floor and subduded, we do have items that can be used to restrain them, such as belt extensions and cord. By working together, we can prevent another tradegy."

I had a picture of four 747 pilots holding fire axes with the caption "Welcome mohammed to our flight deck!".

Right after 9/11 there was a case where a pilot said "If you try and make it up into this cockpit without authorization you'll see this fireaxe up close" or something to that effect. EVERYONE cheered.

:D

don't get the wrong idea the odds are these passengers are from Milton Keynes or maybe Rushden

I’d say I’m comfortable with flying with Muslims (more so actually since at least I’m not sitting next to a baby or something)
but what if it's a Colicky Muslim Baby... :p


me, I don't care what nationality/religion/sexual preference the person sitting next to me is. My only concern is that the In-flight movie is good.

but what if it's a Colicky Muslim Baby... :p


me, I don't care what nationality/religion/sexual preference the person sitting next to me is. My only concern is that the In-flight movie is good.
Then you must never have a good flight. ;)

Those people wouldn't get a penny back

False.

I've flown nearly 5 million miles on commercial carriers of all sorts.

I've cancelled dozens of flights just before the doors closed on the aircraft - several after I've boarded and then got off again.

I always got my money back. Always. It's corporate policy. And they were more than happy to get me a seat on the next flight, or on an airline that was working with them (United does this with Lufthansa).

Then you must never have a good flight. ;)
actually....

MOST of them were good...

but "Coupe De Vile"...
oh the horror... the horror!!! http://forums.massivehq.com/images/smilies/misc/hidesbehindsofa.gif

Care to place a bet? The passengers in this case got away with it.

One case doesn't make a trend. The current atmosphere certainly encouraged this kind of paranoia, but unless more plots to bring down planes are uncovered, adding to the fear of having a flight hijacked or bombed, then the people will settle down and start to feel safe again.

The two Arabic speakers can't sue the other passengers. The company is required to give them their money back.
Sucks for them, then. I don't know too much about law in the UK, but I'd imagine there isn't much recourse for discrimination based on language.

False.

I've flown nearly 5 million miles on commercial carriers of all sorts.

I've cancelled dozens of flights just before the doors closed on the aircraft - several after I've boarded and then got off again.

I always got my money back. Always. It's corporate policy. And they were more than happy to get me a seat on the next flight, or on an airline that was working with them (United does this with Lufthansa).
Jesus Christ--how hard is it to understand the phrase "if I were in charge?" I've only used it in every freaking reply to you on this thread.

No reason it won't spread.Ah, except that everyone else in the world isn't as ignorant, racist, and stupid? Intelligence and common sense seems to be a powerful line of defense against racism.

I'm more scared of drunk drivers than I am of terrorists.

So what? Yeah Segregation?

but what if it's a Colicky Muslim Baby... :p

then I beat the shit out of my travel agent for taking the piss (everything is always the travel agents fault)

me, I don't care what nationality/religion/sexual preference the person sitting next to me is. My only concern is that the In-flight movie is good.

What if there exceptionally hairy and obese?

Jesus Christ--how hard is it to understand the phrase "if I were in charge?"
Um... very? :confused:

Ah, except that everyone else in the world isn't as ignorant, racist, and stupid? Intelligence and common sense seems to be a powerful line of defense against racism.

I'm more scared of drunk drivers than I am of terrorists.

Ah but we are talking CHAV family’s here looks like no more flights to Spain or *shudders* lanzarote

then I beat the shit out of my travel agent for taking the piss (everything is always the travel agents fault)



What if there exceptionally hairy and obese?
been there... infact I had to sit between two of em...

and watch a crappy film at the same time... :mad:

but now... with my portable DVD player and extra battery... :D

been there... infact I had to sit between two of em...

and watch a crappy film at the same time... :mad:

but now... with my portable DVD player and extra battery... :D

too bad you have to store that in the luggage nowadays:p

Maybe airlines will have to stop taking Arabic-speaking passengers who look like they're from the Middle East.

Wouldn't work in the US. The right to freely travel among the various States is one of those things that cannot be taken away without due process of law.

too bad you have to store that in the luggage nowadays:p
yeah... wait... not really, last time I flew (granted it was before the liquid thing) all I had to do was turn it on for the inspectors... and they did inspect it closely.

Wouldn't work in the US. The right to freely travel among the various States is one of those things that cannot be taken away without due process of law.
The scary thing is that a law doing just such a thing could pass easily in the right political climate, which is the kind of climate I think DK rubs one off dreaming about.

Wouldn't work in the US. The right to freely travel among the various States is one of those things that cannot be taken away without due process of law.

Famous last words.

The current Adminstration/Regime hasn't been entirely faithful (yes, pun intended) to the United States Constitution.

yeah... wait... not really, last time I flew (granted it was before the liquid thing) all I had to do was turn it on for the inspectors... and they did inspect it closely.

how much porn they find :D

how much porn they find :D
That's on the laptop, not the portable dvd player. ;)

Smiley image of two very confused Arabic speaking men.

:mp5: :confused: :mp5:

The airline made a commercial decision - hardly a matter of law in this case. Unless you're discussing the breach of contract about the ticket (if there is one in this case).

Maybe airlines will have to stop taking Arabic-speaking passengers who look like they're from the Middle East.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770

Either that, or go out of business.

Maybe they'll have to have separate flights for them.

The government is apparently not doing enough to assuage the fears of the public.
The poor guys, how humiliating to have to suffer at the hands of such mindlessness. They weren't even arabs, probably malaysian or something (You said asian, right?). I think the solution is clear. People who don't want to fly with certain races or cultures don't have to. They can walk, or swim. If their really keen they could even start their own 'ethnically hygienic' airline. Until they pick one of the above options, they can stop bitching.

Read your own article:
Those people wouldn't get a penny back, and again, if I were in charge, I'd work actively to fuck them with other airlines, modes of transportation and accomodations. But I'm not in charge of an airline, and probably with good reason.

And I've been meaning to say this for a while--others have been doing it, but I feel it's incumbent on me to say it as well. You know as well as anyone that 1) all Arab-speaking people are not Muslims and 2) all Muslims are not terrorists. Your continued equation of the two is nothing more than racism, and it backs up my long-time opinion of you.
Just to add, the article even mentions that the men weren't arabs, but asian.

how much porn they find :D
well... that is my DVD colle... *cough* none, none at all...

Maybe airlines will have to stop taking Arabic-speaking passengers who look like they're from the Middle East.

Maybe we can move every Muslim to the back of all the airplanes too! And we can make them shop at different stores (just in case there's a terrorist attack against our stores), and drink at different drinking fountains (wouldn't want our fountains poisoned now).

We can call it... Segregation!

:rolleyes:

All the other passengers should have been kicked off the plane for being too ignorant and stupid to pass as human beings. Animals are supposed to stay in the lugage compartment.

Maybe airlines will have to stop taking Arabic-speaking passengers who look like they're from the Middle East.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770

Either that, or go out of business.

Maybe they'll have to have separate flights for them.

The government is apparently not doing enough to assuage the fears of the public.

I've been on the forums for a total of one and a half days, and yet I can already guess that you have a massive hate-boner for Muslims/Middle Easterners and that you use stupid hypotheticals like this one to hide it. Racial profiling is one thing, but your suggestion is incredible. Hey, why don't we fire Muslims from all government positions as well? The dirty bastards might mastermind a plot to overthrow western society, because, you know, every single one of them is a gun-toting extremist.

The backlash against arab terrorist is starting. Maybe now we'll see more arabs denouncing terrorist attacks.

the phrase 'fuck you you racist, enjoy the walk' springs to mind
Quoted in agreement.

Muslims?

Or Arab speakers?
Were they speaking Arab?
The article doesn't say. Seems to me that all that happened is they were foreign-looking and speaking a 'weird' language and several ppl just decided that therefore they must be dirty stinking muslamic arab terrorists.

Oh, and looking at their watches! Heavens above! A man in an airport waiting for his flight and looking at his watch! Who would have thought such a thing could happen?
Quite obviously a terrorist.

I've been on the forums for a total of one and a half days, and yet I can already guess that you have a massive hate-boner for Muslims/Middle Easterners and that you use stupid hypotheticals like this one to hide it.
Well done. It takes most ppl longer to come to that conclusion regarding DK.
You obviously possess a high level of deductive reasoning skills.

Hope you stick around.

The government is apparently not doing enough to assuage the fears of the public.
Or maybe the fear-mongering and 'reds-under-the-bed' scare tactics the present govts are using in order to remain in power are causing such fear in the general public, it's making ppl to think and behave irrationally and allowing prejudice and racial hatred to establish themselves within our societies.

Again.

Looks like Mass Hysteria creating Propaganda Efforts by Hit...Bush&co work then...

Just to add, the article even mentions that the men weren't arabs, but asian.
In the UK, they label everyone from Pakistan east "Asian".

No idea why, as it causes confusion with the rest of the world.
It's not like a person from the Indian sub-continent can be mistaken for an "Asian", but there you go.

The backlash against arab terrorist is starting. Maybe now we'll see more arabs denouncing terrorist attacks.Actually, I'd say it's more likely that this will simply increase terrorism, as it will simply be another reason to be a terrorist.

Does this mean I get discounted flights if I volunteer to fly with OMG ebulArabs?
Malaysia here I come.


Idiots.

The backlash against arab terrorist is starting. Maybe now we'll see more arabs denouncing terrorist attacks.

Or maybe we'll see more sympathy towards them

Anyway,

"The plane was not yet full and it became apparent that people were refusing to board. In the gate waiting area, people had been talking about these two, who looked really suspicious with their heavy clothing, scruffy, rough, appearance and long hair. "

WTF?! Why is that suspicious? People need look at the photos the terrorists who've commited atrocities in the west, they're wearing light casual clothing and they're clean cut.

The two Arabic speakers can't sue the other passengers.

They cannot?

It's a shame if they can't sue the airlines.

In the UK, they label everyone from Pakistan east "Asian".

No idea why, as it causes confusion with the rest of the world.
It's not like a person from the Indian sub-continent can be mistaken for an "Asian", but there you go.

Well Indian sub-continent is still in the Asian continent, so technically Indians/Paks/BDs etc are all Asians.

In the UK, "Asian" = "Indian looking" (Ind/Pak/BD etc) since their experience with Asians is mostly with Indians and not Chinese (historically and demographically Indians dominate Chinese in the UK). It is the other way in the US.

Only in the US does "Asian" = "Chinese looking" (Japanese/Chinese/Thai/Vietnamese etc).

Well Indian sub-continent is still in the Asian continent, so technically Indians/Paks/BDs etc are all Asians.

In the UK, "Asian" = "Indian looking" (Ind/Pak/BD etc) since their experience with Asians is mostly with Indians and not Chinese (historically and demographically Indians dominate Chinese in the UK). It is the other way in the US.

Only in the US does "Asian" = "Chinese looking" (Japanese/Chinese/Thai/Vietnamese etc).


Also we tend say Oriental for people who are Japanese/Chinese/Thai/Vietnamese etc

False.

I've flown nearly 5 million miles on commercial carriers of all sorts.

I've cancelled dozens of flights just before the doors closed on the aircraft - several after I've boarded and then got off again.

I always got my money back. Always. It's corporate policy. And they were more than happy to get me a seat on the next flight, or on an airline that was working with them (United does this with Lufthansa).

Actually it depends on the airline and why you want off.

If you were flying Ryan Air or Easy Jet you would not get a refund. You could fight to get a refund but chances are...you won't be successful.

Even if you were flying with a large carrier you would not get a refund unless there was a very specific reason...just getting off the flight would not entitle you to a refund.

False.

I've flown nearly 5 million miles on commercial carriers of all sorts.

I've cancelled dozens of flights just before the doors closed on the aircraft - several after I've boarded and then got off again.

I always got my money back. Always. It's corporate policy. And they were more than happy to get me a seat on the next flight, or on an airline that was working with them (United does this with Lufthansa).

This was a chartered flight, not a schedualled flight dude. Makes all the difference in the world when it comes to customer service and the rights granted you by your ticket. In this case the men were rebooked on a later flight but Monarch could probably have quite easily screwed them without them having any recourse.

Well, most terrorists are from the ME/ME looking.
Yeah, but this is BS. I'd trust airport security.

Oh joy, more mass hysteria. Those passengers were fucking idiots. "OMG, they sound lime they're speaking a vaguely Arabic-like language, but we can't actually be sure, and they don't look very Arabic. THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW US UP!"

This was a chartered flight, not a schedualled flight dude. Makes all the difference in the world when it comes to customer service and the rights granted you by your ticket. In this case the men were rebooked on a later flight but Monarch could probably have quite easily screwed them without them having any recourse.

Even if it was a 'regular' flight there is nothing to say that the airline needs to re-emburse the passengers....many of these are at the descretion of the airline...

Even if it was a 'regular' flight there is nothing to say that the airline needs to re-emburse the passengers....many of these are at the descretion of the airline...

Maybe, but every scheduelled flight I've been on has allowed you to change flight or get a refund at will. One of the advantages of paying more for the ticket in the first place....along with free beer for the whole flight :D

"Oh noes they're different so they must be teh ebul!!!!!111"

If they don't want to fly with other nationalities then don't fly at all. Plus DK please just openly admit you hate all Muslims at least then we all know where we truly stand.

Maybe, but every scheduelled flight I've been on has allowed you to change flight or get a refund at will. One of the advantages of paying more for the ticket in the first place....along with free beer for the whole flight :D

It depends again...if its a flight booked through a travel agent for example...

Also if you want to change the flight etc you are at the mercy of the airline...most of the time there are no issues...it just really depends...and also at the end of the day the airline won't want to loose repeat biz...

All I am saying is that refunds are a minefield and are not usually mandatory. And the budget airlines...well to get a refund is like getting blood out of a stone.

Free drinks...once again it depends...I had the misfortune of flying to New York on Air France...one drink was allowed. When I flew to Korea last year I was piled with drink by Korea Air. British Caladonian (remember them?) I flew Business Class and it was near as dammit like first class on BA...

Plus DK please just openly admit you hate all Muslims at least then we all know where we truly stand.

oh, he openly advocates genocide quite regularly. i'm amazed that anyone even bothers talking to him at all other than to call him a fascist and tell him to fuck off.

"Oh noes they're different so they must be teh ebul!!!!!111"

If they don't want to fly with other nationalities then don't fly at all. Plus DK please just openly admit you hate all Muslims at least then we all know where we truly stand.
Thing is, he can't legitimately claim he hates all Muslims, because it's not like you can tell if a person is Muslim or not simply be looking at them, and let's face it, the people who objected on this flight, the ones DK has so vociferously defended, didn't have a clue as to the religious beliefs of the ones they profiled. DK hates Arabs, plain and simple, and it doesn't matter two shits to him whether they're Muslim or Christian or Jewish or atheist.

From the Monarch Website -

My flight was delayed, am I entitled to compensation?

The airline is not legally obligated to pay compensation in delay situations, however in some circumstances Monarch may offer to reimburse reasonable out of pocket expenses. Any claims should be sent to us in writing providing full flight details and a response will be sent to you at the earliest opportunity.

http://www.flymonarch.com/cnt/contactus/index.asp?source=sch_faqScheduled

Thing is, he can't legitimately claim he hates all Muslims, because it's not like you can tell if a person is Muslim or not simply be looking at them, and let's face it, the people who objected on this flight, the ones DK has so vociferously defended, didn't have a clue as to the religious beliefs of the ones they profiled. DK hates Arabs, plain and simple, and it doesn't matter two shits to him whether they're Muslim or Christian or Jewish or atheist. The trick is, DK is actually NOT a racist. He just advocates one of the most extreme forms of realpolitik I've ever encountered.

ie "There's a slight threat that people generally from this racial/cultural background will be seeking to kill me, so to logically avoid them causing harm to either me or my loved ones, they must all be liquidated."

It's not exactly what I'd call "evil" or "fascist", just totally amoral. But again, that's the point of realpolitik.

The trick is, DK is actually NOT a racist. He just advocates one of the most extreme forms of realpolitik I've ever encountered.

ie "There's a slight threat that people generally from this racial/cultural background will be seeking to kill me, so to logically avoid them causing harm to either me or my loved ones, they must all be liquidated."

It's not exactly what I'd call "evil" or "fascist", just totally amoral. But again, that's the point of realpolitik.

See thats not true. He never advocates the liquidation of white people based on the fact that there are white terrorist out there. His concentration on Arabs shows he is racist.

The trick is, DK is actually NOT a racist. He just advocates one of the most extreme forms of realpolitik I've ever encountered.

ie "There's a slight threat that people generally from this racial/cultural background will be seeking to kill me, so to logically avoid them causing harm to either me or my loved ones, they must all be liquidated."

It's not exactly what I'd call "evil" or "fascist", just totally amoral. But again, that's the point of realpolitik.

nah. he tries to dress his fascism and racism up as 'realpolitik', but it's all bullshit.

The trick is, DK is actually NOT a racist. He just advocates one of the most extreme forms of realpolitik I've ever encountered.

ie "There's a slight threat that people generally from this racial/cultural background will be seeking to kill me, so to logically avoid them causing harm to either me or my loved ones, they must all be liquidated."

It's not exactly what I'd call "evil" or "fascist", just totally amoral. But again, that's the point of realpolitik.
Realpolitik doesn't operate under such loose standards. Certainly not with the single-minded attention Deep Kimchi is giving to Islamic extremists.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770

Hardly a font of reliable knoweldge. Has any other source, from a different media stable, backed it up?
I can't find anything on the BBC, Independent or Guardian sites about it. :confused:

False.

I've flown nearly 5 million miles on commercial carriers of all sorts.

I've cancelled dozens of flights just before the doors closed on the aircraft - several after I've boarded and then got off again.

I always got my money back. Always. It's corporate policy. And they were more than happy to get me a seat on the next flight, or on an airline that was working with them (United does this with Lufthansa).

With Monarch?

The passengers who walked off most likely won't get a penny.

Thank goodness that racism being popular justifies it. :rolleyes:

I can smell the death camps already...

Every time I open a newspaper or switch on the news I get "omg evil muslim terrorists" shoved down my throat, so is this incident really that surprising?

Oh no, those aren't death camps they are cultural safety re-education centers, death is such a nasty word after all.
This idiot behaviour is likely to only inspire further anger in an already severely unhappy minority and marginalised minority group.

I can smell the death camps already...

they're the hipest thing since hip hop. just ask deep "not a fascist at all, i swear" kimchi and his pals.

It appears that profiling is now done by the passengers instead of the airlines. Way to go.

It appears that profiling is now done by the passengers instead of the airlines. Way to go.

the people are part of the organic state and must take part in it's historical destiny. nothing but good germans here.

Hooray for racist Kimchi.

they're the hipest thing since hip hop. just ask deep "not a fascist at all, i swear" kimchi and his pals.

I just hope this sh!t doesn't spark a race-riot, I live in Dearborn Michigan "smack dab in the middle of Raghead territory" as DK would put it.

if my house gets burned down I place the blame on your shoulders DK.

I just hope this sh!t doesn't spark a race-riot, I live in Dearborn Michigan "smack dab in the middle of Raghead territory" as DK would put it.

if my house gets burned down I place the blame on your shoulders DK.

Nah, he'll just say if Michigan had listened to him and rounded up all the Muslims for "processing" then you wouldn't have had your house burned down in the first place.

Bof...
Nothing new or terrible.
Everything is quiet normal in that story, mainly for Usians who are used to help fucking companies to dictatorship better, like Yahoo, Google, Microsoft...

Fuck you all

Maybe airlines will have to stop taking Arabic-speaking passengers who look like they're from the Middle East.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770

Either that, or go out of business.

Maybe they'll have to have separate flights for them.

The government is apparently not doing enough to assuage the fears of the public.

Assuage? Assuage?! Fine, that's a UK story and I'm going to be myopic here, but I haven't seen a government initiative that's designed to do a damned thing to assuage fear. Seriously, if asked what the word meant, Bush would, if he were having a rare moment of genious, think it was the word "sausage" mispelled.

Every new plan I've seen has been designed to avail of our fears. "Ooooh, they're swabbing for explosives! We're in so much danger. Thank goodness papa Bush is on the case." "They won't let us bring Gatorade on the plane? I had no idea how dangerous sports drinks were. I'm glad the Conservatives are in charge. Liberals want terrorists to bring shampoo and gatorade on board and arrive in their desert nations hydrated and with lustrous hair."

Well, most terrorists are from the ME/ME looking.
Yep (http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2001/Tim/bubbye.jpg) Those (http://cabanel.jennifer.free.fr/galerie_anarchisme_et_atheisme_4/images/kkk.jpg) Pesky (http://www.residentgroups.fsnet.co.uk/ALEX%20MASKEY.jpg) middle eastern (http://www.serialkiller.it/immagini/unabomber.JPG) terrorists (http://pristina.usmission.gov/images6/ph3b.jpg)

Yep (http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2001/Tim/bubbye.jpg) Those (http://cabanel.jennifer.free.fr/galerie_anarchisme_et_atheisme_4/images/kkk.jpg) Pesky (http://www.residentgroups.fsnet.co.uk/ALEX%20MASKEY.jpg) middle eastern (http://www.serialkiller.it/immagini/unabomber.JPG) terrorists (http://pristina.usmission.gov/images6/ph3b.jpg)
Indeed, I agree wholeheartedly.

What about the IRA?

What about the UDF on the other side of the coin?

Indeed, I agree wholeheartedly.

What about the IRA?

What about the UDF on the other side of the coin?

Mostly those with the least knowleddge of the Middle East and Islamic world that fear it the most...

Mostly those with the least knowleddge of the Middle East and Islamic world that fear it the most...
Which is the case for most groups that have huge fears about any other group of people. It's no coincidence that the most virulent white-supremacist groups are located in parts of the US where there are few, if any, african-american or jewish residents, and that groups like the Minutemen pull much of their support from communities that have few problems with illegal immigration.

Which is the case for most groups that have huge fears about any other group of people. It's no coincidence that the most virulent white-supremacist groups are located in parts of the US where there are few, if any, african-american or jewish residents, and that groups like the Minutemen pull much of their support from communities that have few problems with illegal immigration.

Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herndon,_Virginia

As of the censusGR2 of 2000, there were 21,655 people, 6,962 households, and 4,970 families residing in the town. The population density was 1,981.3/km² (5,129.9/mi²). There were 7,190 housing units at an average density of 657.8/km² (1,703.3/mi²). The racial makeup of the town was 57.89% White, 9.51% African American, 0.42% Native American, 13.86% Asian, 0.05% Pacific Islander, 12.95% from other races, and 5.32% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 26.01% of the population.

BTW, I'm Asian. This is a very mixed town, and you could go all day here speaking Spanish at work, home, play, and shopping and never speak English with no problem. No white supremacist groups in town.

But, voters here elected a new mayor and five new members of the town council. In so doing, they reversed a voting trend that has held fast for at least the past decade in which no incumbent mayor or town council member has lost an election.

The new mayor, Steve DeBenedettis, who held no previous public office, and the newly elected town council members campaigned on one issue: the baleful impact of illegal immigration on this suburban town in northern Virginia.

A Minuteman group formed here. A place that has a large illegal immigrant population. A place that is only half white. Many of the Minutemen in Herndon are NOT white.

You were saying?

Okay, so this thread by DK can be basically summed up as "150 morons acted like bigots and I'm happy about it because I want to live in the Oceania country from Orwell's 1984 if only to freely preach my hate towards Arabs.".

Meh. What's new?