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Attacking people hunting or fishing. In most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.

We've already been warned by the state game warden that animal rights people may attack us in the woods, and that we would be well within our rights just to shoot them.

God, I hate extremists from my part of the political spectrum more than any others.

If I had a run in with those assholes I'd knife 'em up good.

Do the fun ironic thing; Sic dogs on them. :D

"Release the hounds!" -Mr. Burns

Do the fun ironic thing; Sic dogs on them. :D

"Release the hounds1" -Mr. Burns
You are a genius.

Proving that it is easier to attack women with poles than grouse hunters with guns.

How the hell is anyone going to be intimidated by a bunch of tofu-fed animal rights weenies? I hope they come to the US and fuck with me while I'm fishing. I'll cut 'em up for bait.

Sounds like the attackers are going way too far. When physical violence erupts in the name of peaceful coexistence, you know all sense has been blown out of proportion.

Even if it was pure sport fishing, there still need to be more productive ways of airing your grievances than practicing what you preach against.

The sad thing is that they will win in the long run as they are perceived to have the moral high ground.

Someone should tell Blair that they are using weapons of bass destruction.

How the hell is anyone going to be intimidated by a bunch of tofu-fed animal rights weenies? I hope they come to the US and fuck with me while I'm fishing. I'll cut 'em up for bait.


35 of them vs you and a small group of friends?

I don't know which group is weirder, the PETA freaks or this woman cradling a dead pig for an audience.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060818/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_art_pig

Someone should tell Blair that they are using weapons of bass destruction.

LOL:D Do they follow Osalmon Bin Laiden?

I hate it when people value animal rights more then human rights.

LOL:D Do they follow Osalmon Bin Laiden?

LOL yes he was perching the gospel of hate.

Well, when this happens, so much for the vaunted "we don't harm any living creature" stance by the animal rights groups. If they were related to PETA or ALF, even better.

Actual physical violence against people means they've already crossed the border.

LOL yes he was perching the gospel of hate.
Preach that gospel, Sole brother!

You are a genius.

:D

Someone should tell Blair that they are using weapons of bass destruction.
You win the thread!

n most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.
Unless you take them by surprise with your own legally possessed firearm.

don't fishermen have bats and stuff to kill fish

well they could use them reasonable force after all (or a big slap with a wet fish!)

How the hell is anyone going to be intimidated by a bunch of tofu-fed animal rights weenies? I hope they come to the US and fuck with me while I'm fishing. I'll cut 'em up for bait.


Hell yes!!!

35 of them vs you and a small group of friends?

not if you fish with rifles or even more realistic bow fishing

not if you fish with rifles or even more realistic bow fishing

Or Mississippi-style shotgun fishing! :)

Anyway, these people are the main reason I think people should be able to buy assault rifles. Idiot shoots are a great American tradition :P

Anyway, these people are the main reason I think people should be able to buy assault rifles. Idiot shoots are a great American tradition :P
That is probably the best argument in favour of relaxed gun laws I've heard in a long time.

Mind you, fishing and firearms aren't known for their union. Spoils the meat. Get them out of the water and either throw them back or use the knife, I reckon.

That is probably the best argument in favour of relaxed gun laws I've heard in a long time.

Mind you, fishing and firearms aren't known for their union. Spoils the meat. Get them out of the water and either throw them back or use the knife, I reckon.

NB: Keep these in mind, you don't want to get arrested!

In Tennessee, you can't shoot any game other than whales from a moving automobile.

Likewise in California, it is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.

Speaking of whales, in Ohio you cannot do any whale fishing in any of the state's lakes, streams, or rivers on Sundays.

In Oklahoma, whale fishing is specifically banned any day of the week in the state's inland waters.

And you cannot shoot fish with a gun in the state of Washington or in Hazelhurst, Mississippi.

In Vermont's Lake Champlain, it is illegal to shoot pickerel or northern pike with a gun.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/19/nfish19.xml

Attacking people hunting or fishing. In most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.

We've already been warned by the state game warden that animal rights people may attack us in the woods, and that we would be well within our rights just to shoot them.
but then, can you strap them to the hood of your car? and what would the cost of having them stuffed be?

How the hell is anyone going to be intimidated by a bunch of tofu-fed animal rights weenies? I hope they come to the US and fuck with me while I'm fishing. I'll cut 'em up for bait.

Hippies make lousy chum.

Screw Peta, I'll go out on my boat and go fishing because I can, and I'll be dammed if some smelly hippies are going to stop me.

We should ban boats to because of the small amount of oil and gas that can leak from engines,morons

Hippies make lousy chum.

Ya gotta know how to soak 'em in the bucket! I use a light vinegar and sea salt mix with a bit of bouillon base.

Screw Peta, I'll go out on my boat and go fishing because I can, and I'll be dammed if some smelly hippies are going to stop me.

We should ban boats to because of the small amount of oil and gas that can leak from engines,morons

http://www.alaskatrappers.org/images/tshirt1.jpg

The sad thing is that they will win in the long run as they are perceived to have the moral high ground.

They do?

News to me.

Ya gotta know how to soak 'em in the bucket! I use a light vinegar and sea salt mix with a bit of bouillon base.

I always forget the boullion! Thanks!

PETA is just trying to adress a very difficult philosophical question:

"Who hunts the hunters."

If I was fishing (I don't hunt, since modern hunters just cheat and "hunt" like total wusses), and they came along, I'd just offer them some fish.

modern hunters just cheat and "hunt" like total wusses
Does chasing after squirrels with a BB gun count as cheating? :D

PETA is just trying to adress a very difficult philosophical question:

"Who hunts the hunters."

If I was fishing (I don't hunt, since modern hunters just cheat and "hunt" like total wusses), and they came along, I'd just offer them some fish.
I once killed a rabbit by throwing a buck knife at it. Was that cheating?

PETA is just trying to adress a very difficult philosophical question:

"Who hunts the hunters."


I'm pretty sure PETA's trying to, you know, stop hunting altogether. Not what you quoted.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/19/nfish19.xml

Attacking people hunting or fishing. In most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.

We've already been warned by the state game warden that animal rights people may attack us in the woods, and that we would be well within our rights just to shoot them.
Give it a bit of English!;)

Does chasing after squirrels with a BB gun count as cheating? :D
I hope they're not Red Squirrels. They're an officially recognised endangered species, dontcha know.

Does chasing after squirrels with a BB gun count as cheating? :D

I doubt you actually caught it; so no.

My cat chases them all the time, and those buggers are fast. :p

I once killed a rabbit by throwing a buck knife at it. Was that cheating?

Were you hiding in a blind with expensive camoflauge in a farm specifically made for hunting? If so, yes.

Otherwise, no.

I'm pretty sure PETA's trying to, you know, stop hunting altogether. Not what you quoted.

Sarcasm is a good thing to be able to recognise. ;)

I hope they're not Red Squirrels. They're an officially recognised endangered species, dontcha know.
Nope, no red ones... just black and gray...

I doubt you actually caught it; so no.
:eek: How'd you know I didn't catch it?!

I once killed a rabbit by throwing a buck knife at it. Was that cheating?

"It's all in the reflexes...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2005-07/18696648.jpg

LOL yes he was perching the gospel of hate.


You sir are good!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/19/nfish19.xml

Attacking people hunting or fishing. In most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.

We've already been warned by the state game warden that animal rights people may attack us in the woods, and that we would be well within our rights just to shoot them.

No suprise. In FL they could have been tagged and bagged.


<---Avid hunter and fisherman.

Does chasing after squirrels with a BB gun count as cheating? :D
Oh noooooooooo.:(
I once killed a rabbit by throwing a buck knife at it. Was that cheating?
Booooooooooo!
:(

I once killed a rabbit by throwing a buck knife at it. Was that cheating?


Good shot. I've killed countless squirells with a piece of 2X4, an axe and a screwdriver as they exited the hole they chewed through my garbage can.
I dont think that was cheating.

35 of them vs you and a small group of friends?
That's why we Americans use machineguns for hunting and explosives for fishing!

(Sorry couldn't resist..)

The sad thing is that they will win in the long run as they are perceived to have the moral high ground.
Nah, once you start attacking someone you're pretty much off the rails. Though they will somewhat successfully play it for sympathy if a hunter does decide to shoot one of them-that hunter would really just be playing into their hands at that point. But this is just a stupid and wrong headed idea-the kind of thing you get when too many people in the room agree. There should at least be one person going, "I don't think this will work," even if they're wrong most of the time, just so the question is asked by someone.

Now, if they where following around hunters with clown suits and noise makers scaring off the game, that'd be a different thing all together. Irritating, but not completely off the rails.

Nah, once you start attacking someone you're pretty much off the rails. Though they will somewhat successfully play it for sympathy if a hunter does decide to shoot one of them-that hunter would really just be playing into their hands at that point. But this is just a stupid and wrong headed idea-the kind of thing you get when too many people in the room agree. There should at least be one person going, "I don't think this will work," even if they're wrong most of the time, just so the question is asked by someone.

Now, if they where following around hunters with clown suits and noise makers scaring off the game, that'd be a different thing all together. Irritating, but not completely off the rails.


Local activists have done things like put two men in a deer suit and walk around in the woods, hoping to get shot by a hunter.

The game warden warned us (police have informants in such groups). He said that if we shot someone we honestly thought was a deer (a deer suit qualifies, a clown suit does not), we would not be charged.

Where's Dick 'Hunter' Cheney when you need him?

Lots of stupid faces to pull a trigger at!

Unless you take them by surprise with your own legally possessed firearm.

Mmm hmm, I can see it now:

Inmate: What're you in for?
Activist: I shot this hunter 'cause he was gonna kill a fish!
Inmate: So, you're onna those vegans?
Activist: Yes I am.
Inmate: Good, then you won't mind tossed salad...

Local activists have done things like put two men in a deer suit and walk around in the woods, hoping to get shot by a hunter.

The game warden warned us (police have informants in such groups). He said that if we shot someone we honestly thought was a deer (a deer suit qualifies, a clown suit does not), we would not be charged.

Yeah, but the ammunition (pun intended) you'd be giving those groups would make it not worth it.

I've never actually seen people doing anything like this. About 1/3 of the people I know hunt, and I've never even heard of people harrassing them while hunting. I haven't hunted in years, so I wouldn't know anymore.

A comment was made earlier about people in blinds on farms made for people to hunt at. I agree that this is in no way shape or form hunting, and the people who do that deserve to be harrassed. That's almost as bad as the thing where they cage pheasants and then release them right in front of the "hunters".

Yeah, but the ammunition (pun intended) you'd be giving those groups would make it not worth it.

I've never actually seen people doing anything like this. About 1/3 of the people I know hunt, and I've never even heard of people harrassing them while hunting. I haven't hunted in years, so I wouldn't know anymore.

A comment was made earlier about people in blinds on farms made for people to hunt at. I agree that this is in no way shape or form hunting, and the people who do that deserve to be harrassed. That's almost as bad as the thing where they cage pheasants and then release them right in front of the "hunters".


I've been harassed many times. At least once a season (usually the first day of a particular season, unless it's cold and rainy, in which case they show their wuss stripes and never show up). My friends have also been harassed - on private land.

I've never hunted from a blind.

I've never actually seen people doing anything like this. About 1/3 of the people I know hunt, and I've never even heard of people harrassing them while hunting. I haven't hunted in years, so I wouldn't know anymore.

I think this is kind of a non-issue, really. If you read the article carefully, a grouse hunt was disrupted and a bunch of angeler harassed by a large group. The targets were sportsmen who were either unarmed or lightly armed, so there wasn't much of a threat to the hooligans. I'm guessing its alot easier to find a group of kids willing to harass someone with a pole or make noise to scare away game birds than it is to get someone to either pretend to be a deer so they can be shot for a cause or violently attack someone armed with a large bore weapon.

A fisherman has a hook(maybe even a bat and small knife), a deer hunter has a gun designed to take down an animal twice your size with one shot, it isn't exactly the same level of threat to challenge or attack either.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/19/nfish19.xml

Attacking people hunting or fishing. In most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.

We've already been warned by the state game warden that animal rights people may attack us in the woods, and that we would be well within our rights just to shoot them.

A bunch of people ganging up together to attack people is a criminal organization and should be treated as such. What more needs to be said?

A fisherman has a hook(maybe even a bat and small knife), a deer hunter has a gun designed to take down an animal twice your size with one shot, it isn't exactly the same level of threat to challenge or attack either.

In more southern and western areas of the US, nearly every fisherman has a pistol in the tackle box. Just in case.

The predator you have to worry about when you're not in range of the police is one that walks around on two legs and speaks your language.

Yeah, but the ammunition (pun intended) you'd be giving those groups would make it not worth it.

I've never actually seen people doing anything like this. About 1/3 of the people I know hunt, and I've never even heard of people harrassing them while hunting. I haven't hunted in years, so I wouldn't know anymore.

A comment was made earlier about people in blinds on farms made for people to hunt at. I agree that this is in no way shape or form hunting, and the people who do that deserve to be harrassed. That's almost as bad as the thing where they cage pheasants and then release them right in front of the "hunters".

While not everyone has had the pleasure of dealing w/ these ninnies, it's becoming a more common and encouraged tactic.

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/columns/story?columnist=guest_columnist&page=h_col_USSA_hunter_harassment
http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051209/NEWS01/512090345/1005
http://www.protest.net/event.cgi?ID=497171&state_values=SITE!.40
http://www.bowhunting.net/eMagazine/Articles/01-JimBeers01.html
http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=10738

I've been harassed many times. At least once a season (usually the first day of a particular season, unless it's cold and rainy, in which case they show their wuss stripes and never show up). My friends have also been harassed - on private land.

I've never hunted from a blind.

Maybe it doesn't happen here because everyone here hunts. Local high schools often close for the first day of deer season. Also, half of the campaign material I received in the last election featured the candidate clad in blaze orange, Democrat and Republican.

Good shot. I've killed countless squirells with a piece of 2X4, an axe and a screwdriver as they exited the hole they chewed through my garbage can.
I dont think that was cheating.

I gave a field mouse a wristshot with a hockey stick out of my garage last weekend... he ended up tumbling end-over-end into the grass, where he was nearly immediately swooped on by an owl.

I figure all I did was give the food chain a little push. ;)

I gave a field mouse a wristshot with a hockey stick out of my garage last weekend... he ended up tumbling end-over-end into the grass, where he was nearly immediately swooped on by an owl.

I figure all I did was give the food chain a little push. ;)


*L* Thats not a hat trick, but there has to be a name for it!

Mmm hmm, I can see it now:

Inmate: What're you in for?
Activist: I shot this hunter 'cause he was gonna kill a fish!
Inmate: So, you're onna those vegans?
Activist: Yes I am.
Inmate: Good, then you won't mind tossed salad...
Now that is a disgusting reply, thank you.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/19/nfish19.xml

Attacking people hunting or fishing. In most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.

We've already been warned by the state game warden that animal rights people may attack us in the woods, and that we would be well within our rights just to shoot them.
Getting attacked by animal-rights thugs has become a serious problem in America??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/19/nfish19.xml

Attacking people hunting or fishing. In most parts of the US, even a fisherman is likely to be armed. And if they're hunting, and you attack them, you're very likely to be shot.

We've already been warned by the state game warden that animal rights people may attack us in the woods, and that we would be well within our rights just to shoot them.
From one of Kec's links":

What should you do?

What if this happened to you? Are you ready to come face to face with an anti-hunter while you're in the field? Do you know how to handle yourself? Here are some important tips to remember:

Report the incident to the authorities as soon as possible

Have an accurate description of the protestor, license plate number and vehicle identification

Remain calm and rational

Be prepared to file harassment charges

Remember that any law officer can enforce this law
Sure doesn't recommend shooting anyone.

I would imagine that no game warden is going to sanction the use of deadly force, at least not for the record. So, was it the Virginia State game warden that stated that you would be well within your rights just to shoot them?

Or are you just making that up?

Getting attacked by animal-rights thugs has become a serious problem in America??
Yes. For years now. Read back in the thread and you'll find links to other articles.

Yes. For years now. Read back in the thread and you'll find links to other articles.
So it's preferable for armed thugs to shoot the unarmed ones? Or just the unarmed animals?

So it's preferable for armed thugs to shoot the unarmed ones? Or just the unarmed animals?

Some of the animals are armed: bears have their teeth and claws, deer have their horns, and boars have their tusks.

Then there's always the were-rabbit...

I don't know which group is weirder, the PETA freaks or this woman cradling a dead pig for an audience.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060818/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_art_pig

If you feel sorry for a dead pig then what's your opinion on this asshole?

http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://www.broodthaersmp.be/PageMill_Resources/image30.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.broodthaersmp.be/wim.html&h=142&w=217&sz=26&tbnid=rqgEyAt_zlxsQM:&tbnh=66&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwim%2Bdelvoye&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Delvoye

He has them tatooed in China and without anaesthesia "because of the costs".

If you feel sorry for a dead pig then what's your opinion on this asshole?

http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://www.broodthaersmp.be/PageMill_Resources/image30.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.broodthaersmp.be/wim.html&h=142&w=217&sz=26&tbnid=rqgEyAt_zlxsQM:&tbnh=66&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwim%2Bdelvoye&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Delvoye

He has them tatooed in China and without anaesthesia "because of the costs".
"Last edited by Anthil : Today at 11:27 AM. Reason: added Wiki url"
No, you didn't. The two links were already there when I just read it. You added the last sentence, for which you might please add a source for it's neither on the first, nor on the second link you provided.

So it's preferable for armed thugs to shoot the unarmed ones? Or just the unarmed animals?
Here in America, if you're outnumbered by people who are assaulting you with their bare hands, and you're a lone person with a weapon, it's arguable that you are "in fear for your life" if they start beating you and making threats along with the beating.

The game warden said we wouldn't be charged if we shot the ones most immediate to us, and if we stopped when the rest ran away.

"Last edited by Anthil : Today at 11:27 AM. Reason: added Wiki url"
No, you didn't. The two links were already there when I just read it. You added the last sentence, for which you might please add a source for it's neither on the first, nor on the second link you provided.
Hogwash. Are you a time traveller?
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hey if you are fishing and same asshole came out of no were with a weapon and you got a gun i say shoot them they may be a killer and you can shoot those baers who like to take the fish off you too