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Look's like Science books may have to be rewritten

Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 15:19
This from the Astronomical Society:

PRAGUE, Czech Republic — The universe really is expanding: Astronomers are proposing to rewrite the textbooks to say that our solar system has 12 planets rather than the nine memorized by generations of schoolchildren.

Under the proposal, Pluto will remain a planet. Its moon, Charon will also be labeled a planet along with two other heavenly bodies. Those being 2003UB313 and the astroid Ceres.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208644,00.html

This is all very exciting. I can not wait to see what comes out of this conference in Prague.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:24
I'm against this, simply because I don't want a planet named Xena.

http://www.notzen.com/andrew/xena.jpg
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 15:27
I'm against this, simply because I don't want a planet named Xena.

http://www.notzen.com/andrew/xena.jpg

I do not think the planet will be Xena if it is ever designated a planet. Even the article mentions that it would probably be named something else.
The Nazz
16-08-2006, 15:28
When I read the story on MSNBC this morning, I saw one astronomer note that under the new definition, there could be pward of fifty planets in the solar system. Imagine the mnemonic device for that bastard.
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:30
I thought that it was in the nature of science to occasionally rewrite things. You know, when you find out more information...
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 15:30
When I read the story on MSNBC this morning, I saw one astronomer note that under the new definition, there could be pward of fifty planets in the solar system. Imagine the mnemonic device for that bastard.

Yea that would be very interesting.

Crap. I just realized I have to give a heads up to my girlfriend who is studying El Ed. about this.
Skinny87
16-08-2006, 15:36
I thought that it was in the nature of science to occasionally rewrite things. You know, when you find out more information...

Yep. And more for the creationists to bitch about I expect...
The Nazz
16-08-2006, 15:38
I thought that it was in the nature of science to occasionally rewrite things. You know, when you find out more information...
I have to admit, when I saw the title of the thread, I thought it might be about ID, which would be the opposite of what you said. I'm glad to have been mistaken about it.
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:38
Yep. And more for the creationists to bitch about I expect...
Well, science seems to be pretty honest about things when they find out more information.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:38
When I read the story on MSNBC this morning, I saw one astronomer note that under the new definition, there could be pward of fifty planets in the solar system. Imagine the mnemonic device for that bastard.

Yeah, something on the order of supercallifragilisticexpialidoscious. :D
Call to power
16-08-2006, 15:38
are children shall hate us for this just like we hate are ancestors for physics class

and all these new planets better fit the planet acronym otherwise I'll never no how many planets there are
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:41
I'm trying to imagine what it must have been like when quantum physics came out, after people spent their lives and careers doing Newtonian stuff.
Andaluciae
16-08-2006, 15:42
Just so long as they don't name the goddam planet Xena. Christ, I'd rather see Pluto shattered into a million pieces, and have only gas giants be considered planets, than have a planet named 'Xena'.
Franberry
16-08-2006, 15:42
I think we should stick with 9.

There are many "planets" the size of Pluto's moon, in the solar system, they are moons to other planets, we would have to memorize a lot of names
Iztatepopotla
16-08-2006, 15:43
Great! More work for school kids and their models of the solar system.

"And this 10 billion plastic foam balls are the Oort cloud"

EDIT: Poor astrologers, whatever will they do now?
Greater Alemannia
16-08-2006, 15:43
Charon shouldn't be called a planet; it revolves around Pluto, not the Sun.
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:44
Just so long as they don't name the goddam planet Xena. Christ, I'd rather see Pluto shattered into a million pieces, and have only gas giants be considered planets, than have a planet named 'Xena'.

Well, we could name it something else. You know, like KD Lang, or...
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:44
Great! More work for school kids and their models of the solar system.

"And this 10 billion plastic foam balls are the Oort cloud"

Maybe we should work on proper English first.

"And these 10 billion plastic foam balls are the Oort cloud"
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:45
Well, we could name it something else. You know, like KD Lang, or...

Well, if we have a planet named Xena, I want one named Conan. :p
Greater Alemannia
16-08-2006, 15:46
Well, we could name it something else. You know, like KD Lang, or...

"This is Neptune, and this is Pluto, and this small one over here is Benito Mussolini."

...

What? He put the "tator" in "dictatorship."
Iztatepopotla
16-08-2006, 15:49
Maybe we should work on proper English first.

"And these 10 billion plastic foam balls are the Oort cloud"
Punctuation is important too:

Maybe we should work on proper English first: "And these 10 billion plastic foam balls are the Oort cloud"

Perfect!
Damor
16-08-2006, 15:49
Charon shouldn't be called a planet; it revolves around Pluto, not the Sun.Yeah, but Pluto also revolves around Charon, or rather they both revolve around a common center of gravity (which doesn't lie in either body, afaik). They're quite close in size, so it makes sense to designate it a double-planet. Earth and the moon almost qualify for that as well, except the common center of gravity here clearly does lie far inside the earth.
Greater Alemannia
16-08-2006, 15:49
Well, if we have a planet named Xena, I want one named Conan. :p

No, no, no. We have a moon named Xena, and it orbits a planet called Kevin Sorbo.
Turquoise Days
16-08-2006, 15:50
Charon shouldn't be called a planet; it revolves around Pluto, not the Sun.
Technically, they both revolve around a centre of rotation - a barycentre - which is above the surface of Pluto - this makes (along with their similar sizes) them a double planet system.
Greater Alemannia
16-08-2006, 15:51
Yeah, but Pluto also revolves around Charon, or rather they both revolve around a common center of gravity (which doesn't lie in either body, afaik). They're quite close in size, so it makes sense to designate it a double-planet. Earth and the moon almost qualify for that as well, except the common center of gravity here clearly does lie far inside the earth.

Don't they have to revolve around something?

Well, then call them a dual planet. Pluto-Charon. Or Peterson-Thompson.
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:52
From the other thread about science books having to be rewritten because astronomers think that more bodies qualify as planets.

So...

One of the proposed names was Xena, which some of us think is ridiculous.

Propose new names for the three additional planets.
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 15:53
Don't they have to revolve around something?

They are revolving a common center of gravity that is inbetween them. Therefor, they both can be classified as a planet. And yes, they are revolving around the sun. :p
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:54
No, no, no. We have a moon named Xena, and it orbits a planet called Kevin Sorbo.

That's bloody brilliant! LMFAO! :D
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 15:55
Ceres will be the name of one of the other two. Charon will also keep its name as far as I know.

The only one that needs to be named is 2003UB313.
Minoriteeburg
16-08-2006, 15:56
Im still waiting for Planet Hoff.....its where i'll be moving...
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:56
Don't they have to revolve around something?

Well, then call them a dual planet. Pluto-Charon. Or Peterson-Thompson.
Or Bush-Cheney, or Osama-Zarqawi...
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:56
Ceres will be the name of one of the other two. Charon will also keep its name as far as I know.

The only one that needs to be named is 2003UB313.

I propose it be named Aelosia. :p
Andaluciae
16-08-2006, 15:58
Bob, Fred and WILHELM. (WILHELM must be in caps)
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 15:59
Bob, Fred and WILHELM. (WILHELM must be in caps)

Charon and Ceres are keeping their names :rolleyes:
Minoriteeburg
16-08-2006, 15:59
Or Bush-Cheney, or Osama-Zarqawi...


or Chaka-Kahn
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:59
Im still waiting for Planet Hoff.....its where i'll be moving...

You would. :p

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6812/hasselhoff1hq.gif
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 16:00
Charon and Ceres are keeping their names :rolleyes:
Well, those names suck. They might have been ok as asteroid names, or other sub-planet names, but we need nice, new planet names.
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 16:02
Well, those names suck. They might have been ok as asteroid names, or other sub-planet names, but we need nice, new planet names.

Ceres has had its name for over two hundred years. Charon had its name for roughly seventy years. They are already cataloged and accepted. I doubt highly they will change the names.

On a side note, Ceres used to be called a planet till about the 1800s or so the articles I am reading have stated.
Aelosia
16-08-2006, 16:02
I propose it be named Aelosia. :p

Wow thanks. then my three names would be

Clu
Ich
and Stan
Minoriteeburg
16-08-2006, 16:02
You would. :p

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6812/hasselhoff1hq.gif

its the planet hoff flag!

*salutes*
Greater Alemannia
16-08-2006, 16:03
That's bloody brilliant! LMFAO! :D

Like my history teacher says, I have flashes of brilliance.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 16:03
Wow thanks. then my three names would be

Clu
Ich
and Stan

LOL! :D

I'd be happy if just one had my real name. ;)
Greater Alemannia
16-08-2006, 16:04
Or Bush-Cheney, or Osama-Zarqawi...

Somebody hasn't seen "You, Me and Dupree."
Megaloria
16-08-2006, 16:05
Quintessa, Charr and Junk.
New Peeland
16-08-2006, 16:07
P!....simple but effective!
Aelosia
16-08-2006, 16:08
LOL! :D

I'd be happy if just one had my real name. ;)

Then...

To propose it I would need to know it.
Meath Street
16-08-2006, 16:09
Yeah, but Pluto also revolves around Charon, or rather they both revolve around a common center of gravity (which doesn't lie in either body, afaik). They're quite close in size, so it makes sense to designate it a double-planet. Earth and the moon almost qualify for that as well, except the common center of gravity here clearly does lie far inside the earth.
Indeed, Earth's moon is much bigger proportionally than the average moon. Pluto/Charon could be a double planet. Indeed, there are many double stars in the galaxy that rotate around a common center of gravity.
The Nazz
16-08-2006, 16:17
You would. :p
image snipped to prevent eye damage
I think that's the first time someone other than me has posted that pic.:D
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 16:19
I think that's the first time someone other than me has posted that pic.:D

I've posted it quite a few times here actually. ;)
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 16:20
Then...

To propose it I would need to know it.

TGs, mi querida. TGs... ;)
Minoriteeburg
16-08-2006, 16:21
Somebody hasn't seen "You, Me and Dupree."

wait...someone paid to see that movie?
The Aeson
16-08-2006, 16:27
Vulcan!

Or...


Qo'noS

Or Mxyzptlk
Minoriteeburg
16-08-2006, 16:28
what about planet boobies?


let be serious it would get many visitors.....
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 16:31
Vulcan!

Or...


Qo'noS

Or Mxyzptlk

Mxyzptlk! LOL! :D
Sheni
16-08-2006, 16:33
You all know they're going to name "Xena" after some roman god.
And they've already thought of Nemesis, if I remember correctly.
They might use something else though.
I think Vulcan is the only major roman god they haven't used yet, so they might name it that.
(Insert Star Trek joke here.)
Pluto Land
16-08-2006, 16:35
Well, at least my namesake gets to keep its "planet" status. But I hate having to share it with Charon. Everyone knows it's not as important as Pluto!
Szanth
16-08-2006, 16:41
Well, science seems to be pretty honest about things when they find out more information.

Amazingly, I can finally say I agree with you.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-08-2006, 16:45
Charon shouldn't be called a planet; it revolves around Pluto, not the Sun.

Actually, since their mutual center of gravity is outside Pluto, by the new definition, they would be a double planet. They will be categorized as two planets revolving around eachother.

The moon would fit that category, and almost does, except that the Earth and Moon's mutual center of gravity is in the Earth. Barely. :p
Entropic Creation
16-08-2006, 17:01
I am not sure I like the suggestion that was made about making a third class of planets: dwarf planets. I think creating the category of ‘dwarf planets’ and throwing anything vaguely Pluto sized into it is a bad idea. I personally think they just fall under the heading of planetoids.

Pluto should keep its planet status, but only if considered a dual planet as Pluto-Charon and mostly out of tradition. I have long considered it just a Kuiper belt object myself. Pluto on its own, without the mass of its moons, does not qualify as a planet. I would make the cutoff point at the mass necessary for an object to become spherical.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 17:02
What about Sedna and Quoaor? Are they too small or something?
Lunatic Goofballs
16-08-2006, 17:04
Eutrusca will be happy that Ceres is a planet again. Now his elementary school science books wil be correct again. :p
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 17:06
Eutrusca will be happy that Ceres is a planet again. Now his elementary school science books wil be correct again. :p

Zing! Genius! :D
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 17:08
som handy Wiki pic for you all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2006-16-d-print.jpg
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 17:09
Eutrusca will be happy that Ceres is a planet again. Now his elementary school science books wil be correct again. :p

Joke of the day winner!!!
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 17:37
Eutrusca will be happy that Ceres is a planet again. Now his elementary school science books wil be correct again. :p

HAHA!
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 17:37
som handy Wiki pic for you all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2006-16-d-print.jpg

Image is not coming through.
Kazus
16-08-2006, 17:40
Im not sure what the criteria for a planet is, but awesome. And Im sure there are more planets out there using our sun as a gravitational crutch.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-08-2006, 17:43
Joke of the day winner!!!

Thank you. Thank you. :)
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 17:46
Image is not coming through.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2006-16-d-print.jpg

try the hyperlink
Maineiacs
16-08-2006, 17:46
Ceres has had its name for over two hundred years. Charon had its name for roughly seventy years. They are already cataloged and accepted. I doubt highly they will change the names.

On a side note, Ceres used to be called a planet till about the 1800s or so the articles I am reading have stated.



Actually, Charon was only discovered in 1978. Pluto was discovered in 1930. And what's so bad about Xena, and its moon Gabrielle?:D Also does anyone know what they're going to name Pluto's two recently discovered moons?

EDIT: Never mind, Wiki says they're called Nix and Hydra.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 17:46
Thank you. Thank you. :)

just keep pumping them out :)
Lunatic Goofballs
16-08-2006, 17:49
Actually, Charon was only discovered in 1978. Pluto was discovered in 1930. And what's so bad about Xena, and its moon Gabrielle?:D Also does anyone know what they're going to name Pluto's two recently discovered moons?

EDIT: Never mind, Wiki says they're called Nix and Hydra.

If I were in command, I would name them Persephone and Cerberus. *nod*
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 17:50
Actually, Charon was only discovered in 1978. Pluto was discovered in 1930. And what's so bad about Xena, and its moon Gabrielle?:D Also does anyone know what they're going to name Pluto's two recently discovered moons?

EDIT: Never mind, Wiki says they're called Nix and Hydra.

I've always preferred Gabrielle over Xena. :p

http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/Xena/images/gabby.gif
Ifreann
16-08-2006, 17:52
If I were in command, I would name them Persephone and Cerberus. *nod*
If you were in command there would be no Earth, only a huge ball of mud.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 17:53
If I were in command, I would name them Persephone and Cerberus. *nod*

Cerberus and Proserpina (the Roman equivalent of Persephone) are already the names of asteroids.
[NS]Eraclea
16-08-2006, 17:54
12 Planets! Yay! :D

That makes us feel all the more small... doesn't it. :D
Ifreann
16-08-2006, 17:59
Eraclea']12 Planets! Yay! :D

That makes us feel all the more small... doesn't it. :D
Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough,

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And reolving at nine thousand miles an hour.
It's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
'Round the sun that is the source of all our power.
Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at fourteen thousand miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred million stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
In all of the directions it can whiz;
As fast as it can go, that's the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!
Maineiacs
16-08-2006, 18:00
And for all those complaining about the name Xena, object 2003 EL61 has been unofficially nicknamed "Santa". There's also one called "Easter Bunny".
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:00
Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough,

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And reolving at nine thousand miles an hour.
It's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
'Round the sun that is the source of all our power.
Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at fourteen thousand miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred million stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
In all of the directions it can whiz;
As fast as it can go, that's the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!

YAY MONTY
Shatov
16-08-2006, 18:00
I say we name one of the new planets "The Death Orb".

A name like that will keep out pesky unwanted alien invasion fleets. Who would invade a system where one of the planets is called the Death Orb?
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:02
I say we name one of the new planets "The Death Orb".

TA name like that will keep out pesky unwanted alien invasion fleets. Who would invade a system where one of the planets is called the Death Orb?

the ones in whose languague "Death Orb" means "Fuck Buddy"
Shatov
16-08-2006, 18:04
the ones in whose languague "Death Orb" means "Fuck Buddy"

Damn you and your cold logic.
Ifreann
16-08-2006, 18:05
the ones in whose languague "Death Orb" means "Fuck Buddy"
Actually Fuck Buddy would be a much better name than Xena.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:05
Damn you and your cold logic.

:D
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:06
Actually Fuck Buddy would be a much better name than Xena.

do you reckon that name would attract another asteroid to become its moon?
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 18:07
do you reckon that name would attract another asteroid to become its moon?

Yes, the asteroid called Cluich. :p
[NS]Eraclea
16-08-2006, 18:07
Actually Fuck Buddy would be a much better name than Xena.

Let's just call it Saphron. :D
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:07
Yes, the asteroid called Cluich. :p

:eek:
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 18:08
Eraclea']Let's just call it Saphron. :D

I'm just wild about that name.

No one's gonna get that ref...
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:09
I'm just wild about that name.

No one's gonna get that ref...

nope, no ref discovery here
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 18:11
nope, no ref discovery here

Click here then (http://www.asklyrics.com/display/Donovan/Mellow_Yellow_Lyrics/44693.htm). :p

Yeesh...
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:17
Eraclea']Let's just call it Saphron. :D

you know whtever you call it theyve ruined tall the rhyme thingys to learn the plants names

My
Very
Eccentric
Mum
Jumps
Slowly
Under
Naughty
Pirates

(yes i made that up)
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:21
Click here then (http://www.asklyrics.com/display/Donovan/Mellow_Yellow_Lyrics/44693.htm). :p

Yeesh...

*humms "and they call me mellow yellow"*
Ifreann
16-08-2006, 18:21
you know whtever you call it theyve ruined tall the rhyme thingys to learn the plants names

My
Very
Eccentric
Mum
Jumps
Slowly
Under
Naughty
Pirates

(yes i made that up)
Oooh, naughty pirates. Sweet.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 18:23
Oooh, naughty pirates. Sweet.

yea, it was a close run thing between naughty pirates and naughty pornstars but because it had my mum in i was thinking pornstars wasnt such a good idea
New Burmesia
16-08-2006, 18:58
Wow, I have been in the middle of nowhere in two weeks. (At least in the middle of nowhere that doesn't speak Basque.) It's not everyday you get home to find another three planets...

Oh, and the memonic thingy I learned in primary school was Many Vile Earthings Munch Jam Sandwiches Under Newspaper Piles. w00t!
Ginnoria
16-08-2006, 19:12
So, who's Look, and what are his like science books?
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 19:17
So, who's Look, and what are his like science books?

I was gonna do that but decided to be nice for a change. ;)
[NS]Eraclea
16-08-2006, 19:20
Rofl. I think the school will be behind 10 years on these new planets for the next generations. :P
Iztatepopotla
16-08-2006, 19:22
Has anyone suggested Walker and Texas Ranger for planet names?
Ginnoria
16-08-2006, 19:23
I was gonna do that but decided to be nice for a change. ;)
Well, someone has to do it ... so it might as well be me.
[NS]Eraclea
16-08-2006, 19:23
Has anyone suggested Walker and Texas Ranger for planet names?

So what... Chuck Norris and Mr.T for Planet and Moon?
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 20:03
Eraclea']So what... Chuck Norris and Mr.T for Planet and Moon?

nah, Chuck Norris is getting a bridge, thats too much


DONT GIVE HIM A PLANET!
Willamena
16-08-2006, 21:07
Poor astrologers, whatever will they do now?
:-)

It makes no real difference. Besides, in my opinion, only the 5 visible planets, the sun, and the moon should be considered in astrology.
Maineiacs
16-08-2006, 21:42
:-)

It makes no real difference. Besides, in my opinion, only the 5 visible planets, the sun, and the moon should be considered in astrology.


Well, astrologers have thought for some time (IIRC) that at least two planets remained to be discovered after Pluto. Right now, astrologers assign Mercury and Venus rulership of two signs, but many have thought that Mercury should rule only Gemini, not Virgo and that Venus should rule only Taurus, not Libra and that two planets had yet to be found that were the true rulers of Virgo and Libra. As a Virgo, I hope we get Xena. :D Now, however, if they do officially raise Charon and Ceres to planethood, I have no idea what they'll do.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 22:16
Now, however, if they do officially raise Charon and Ceres to planethood, I have no idea what they'll do.

prove its a load of BS? :)
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 22:20
I am glad that this thread is popular. It is a nice break for a change from all the other threads.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 22:36
I am glad that this thread is popular. It is a nice break for a change from all the other threads.

yeah its going quite well, im quite interested in this, but then maybe nothing will happen...
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 22:57
yeah its going quite well, im quite interested in this, but then maybe nothing will happen...

We shall know more on Auguest 24.
Swilatia
16-08-2006, 23:19
um... fox news sucks. its way to biased to be truseted.
Turquoise Days
16-08-2006, 23:19
um... fox news sucks. its way to biased to be truseted.
:confused:
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 23:30
um... fox news sucks. its way to biased to be truseted.

It is from the Associated Press. :rolleyes:
Ginnoria
16-08-2006, 23:32
um... fox news sucks. its way to biased to be truseted.
No ... reclassifying planets is part of an inter-galactic neoconservative scheme?! I KNEW IT!!
Lerkistan
16-08-2006, 23:33
Don't they have to revolve around something?

Well, then call them a dual planet. Pluto-Charon. Or Peterson-Thompson.

Strange, but I agree with you for once. If it can't be classified as a moon, then they should be dual planets...
Darknovae
16-08-2006, 23:59
If I were in command, I would name them Persephone and Cerberus. *nod*

Persephone...?

Persephone...Skye?

:eek: :D

That's my other name on here!
Maineiacs
17-08-2006, 00:05
Persephone...?

Persephone...Skye?

:eek: :D

That's my other name on here!


Skye is you? Geez, Pancake. What do you do, post as one name or the other depending on which personality is out at the moment? *runs away*:D
Darknovae
17-08-2006, 00:08
Skye is you? Geez, Pancake. What do you do, post as one name or the other depending on which personality is out at the moment? *runs away*:D

I use them interchangably. :p

Do I seem that much different as PS, or are you just goofing around? :D
Maineiacs
17-08-2006, 00:14
I use them interchangably. :p

Do I seem that much different as PS, or are you just goofing around? :D


Would I do that?

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7657/angelbc0.png (http://imageshack.us)
Alleghany County
17-08-2006, 00:18
Please take the Off topic conversation elsewhere please.
Darknovae
17-08-2006, 00:24
Please take the Off topic conversation elsewhere please.

Sorry. :rolleyes:

I would love to have a planet named Persephone. Or, better yet, Darknovae! :D

Or Pluto-Charon can become Lunatic-Goofballs, Ceres can become Farnhamia, and "Xena" will intead be Smunkeeville.

Just some suggestions ;)
Alleghany County
17-08-2006, 00:42
Sorry. :rolleyes:

I would love to have a planet named Persephone. Or, better yet, Darknovae! :D

Or Pluto-Charon can become Lunatic-Goofballs, Ceres can become Farnhamia, and "Xena" will intead be Smunkeeville.

Just some suggestions ;)

LOL!
Darknovae
17-08-2006, 00:49
LOL!

:D

Enough of naming plaents after Roman divinities! Screw 'em! NSG posters are far better than Jupiter/Ceres/Mercury/Venus/Uranus/Neptune/Saturn/Pluto/Charon/Mars/Juno! People actually remember them!
The Scandinvans
17-08-2006, 01:55
Well, if this keeps up I will able to discover a planet and label it with my own name.:D
Free Mercantile States
17-08-2006, 02:34
The entire idea of a "planet" is arbitrary. Everything is a satellite of the sun, or of a satellite of the sun. The only thing that separates out planets is their size and regularity. Orbital bodies should be separated into gas giants, (a legitimately separated class of objects) comets, Kuiper objects, (separable because of their ice-based composition and distinctive orbital radii) and various size classes of regularly and irregularly shaped solid/rocky bodies.
Rhursbourg
17-08-2006, 03:11
I would Name them Alecto and Megaera
The Lone Alliance
17-08-2006, 03:19
Charon shouldn't be a planet. It orbits Pluto. If this is true then almost all of the moons of the gas giants are to be considered planets.
Alleghany County
17-08-2006, 03:21
Charon shouldn't be a planet. It orbits Pluto. If this is true then almost all of the moons of the gas giants are to be considered planets.

It depends on where the center of gravity is for the objects orbiting. In Pluto's and Charon's case, the center of gravity is between them and not inside Pluto. Therefore, they can indeed be two different planets.
Dobbsworld
17-08-2006, 03:24
I thought the deal wuz that Charon had it's own moon as well. Izzat a planet, too?
Alleghany County
17-08-2006, 03:25
I thought the deal wuz that Charon had it's own moon as well. Izzat a planet, too?

Not according to the definition being considered by the IAU.
New Domici
17-08-2006, 03:26
Yep. And more for the creationists to bitch about I expect...

No. They'll just tell the flock "the Earth can't be more than 6,000 years old. Most of the 50 planets in the Solar System didn't even exist 5 years ago."
Sel Appa
17-08-2006, 03:48
I dont even recognize Pluto as a planet.
Alleghany County
17-08-2006, 03:52
I dont even recognize Pluto as a planet.

Well the IAU does and fits their definition of a planet. They are the only ones that matter in here.
Alasdair I Frosticus
17-08-2006, 03:55
:D

Enough of naming plaents after Roman divinities! Screw 'em! NSG posters are far better than Jupiter/Ceres/Mercury/Venus/Uranus/Neptune/Saturn/Pluto/Charon/Mars/Juno! People actually remember them!

There's already ample precedent for not naming solar system objects after figures from Roman mythology... the moons of Uranus are all named after characters from Shakespeare:

Oberon, Miranda, Titania, Ariel, etc...


Charon shouldn't be a planet. It orbits Pluto. If this is true then almost all of the moons of the gas giants are to be considered planets.

Not quite. The barycentre - the common centre of gravity - of Charon and Pluto lies outside the surface of the larger object (Pluto). The barycentre of the Moon and Earth, in contrast, lies under the surface of the Earth. Therefore Pluto and Charon can quite easily be defined as a double system rather than a planet and a satellite.

[whoops - see Alleghany County has already addressed the latter. Never mind!]
Dobbsworld
17-08-2006, 05:19
No. They'll just tell the flock "the Earth can't be more than 6,000 years old. Most of the 50 planets in the Solar System didn't even exist 5 years ago."
Actually, that made me laugh. Thanks ND.
The Black Forrest
17-08-2006, 07:46
I dont even recognize Pluto as a planet.

That's because you focus too much on Uranus.
JiangGuo
17-08-2006, 08:51
I can't wait to say I have been on HALO. :p
Ieuano
17-08-2006, 15:48
That's because you focus too much on Uranus.

Great :D
Maineiacs
17-08-2006, 16:38
I thought the deal wuz that Charon had it's own moon as well. Izzat a planet, too?


No. As I unserstand, Nix and Hydra orbit directly around Pluto, and so far as I know, nothing directly orbits Charon. However, I may be wrong. I'll see if I can find confirmation.
Ieuano
17-08-2006, 17:05
12 planets in our Solar System will be:

Mercury
Venus
Earth
Mars
Ceres
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto-Charon
2003 UB313

(bolded are noe planets)

with these 12 candidates

2002 TX300
Quaoar
Orcus
Sedna
2005 FY9
2003 EL61
2002 AW197
Varuna
Ixion
Vesta
Pallas
Hygiea
WDGann
17-08-2006, 18:02
Uranus is still the best.
Ieuano
17-08-2006, 18:04
Uranus is still the best.

haha a gas giant
Darknovae
17-08-2006, 23:43
Uranus is still the best.

:D

I read somewhere that Uranus was originally named Georgian or something like that afer King Geroge III, but the Americans didn't like that and it became Uranus. Somehow I think that was intended... :D