NationStates Jolt Archive


Worst Country in the World

Pyotr
16-08-2006, 15:18
What, in you humble opinion is the worst country in the world?

no poll, over 30 candidates

my vote goes to Cote D'Ivoire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:19
What, in you humble opinion is the worst country in the world?

no poll, over 30 candidates

my vote goes to Cote D'Ivoire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire

Nah, they've at least got a decent football team. Sudan, however...
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:20
North Korea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea#Human_rights
Main article: Human rights in North Korea

Amnesty International and other human rights organizations accuse North Korea of having one of the worst human rights records of any nation, severely restricting most freedoms, including freedom of speech and freedom of movement, both inside the country and abroad.

Refugees have testified to the existence of detention camps with an estimated 150,000 to 200,000 inmates, and have reported torture, starvation, rape, murder and forced labour [11]. Japanese television aired what it said was footage of a prison camp [12]. In some of the camps, former inmates say the annual mortality rate approaches 25% [13]. A former prison guard and army intelligence officer said that in one camp, chemical weapons were tested on prisoners in a gas chamber [14]. According to a former prisoner, pregnant women inside the camps are often forced to have abortions or the newborn child is killed [15]. None of these claims can be verified, as North Korea denies the existence of the camps and refuses entry to independent human rights observers. However, a recent TIME magazine article documents a young woman's forced abortion in a prison camp and subsequent escape from North Korea.
Pyotr
16-08-2006, 15:21
Nah, they've at least got a decent football team. Sudan, however...

meh, then ill go with Somalia
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:22
North Korea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea#Human_rights

How did I not think of that? Yeah, I'd rather live in Sudan than NK.
Hamilay
16-08-2006, 15:24
*waits for flaming*
Well, sorry to be unoriginal and cliched, but I'll go for Iraq.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:26
*waits for flaming*
Well, sorry to be unoriginal and cliched, but I'll go for Iraq.

Apology not accepted. :p
Gorias
16-08-2006, 15:26
i would say it would be an africa country. cause i dont like aids, lack of food and people going to war.
i like to eat, be healthy and make love.
AB Again
16-08-2006, 15:36
Right now - Haiti
Franberry
16-08-2006, 15:40
Right now - Haiti
In the western world, Id rather live in Haiti than many african countries.

My vote would probably go to Somalia or Sudan
Mikesburg
16-08-2006, 15:40
Sweden.

Their affordable modular furniture and beautiful women are too irresistable. And unless I'm mistaken, they gave the world ABBA. 'Nuff said.
Greater Alemannia
16-08-2006, 15:45
Somalia.
Iztatepopotla
16-08-2006, 15:46
Sweden.

Their affordable modular furniture and beautiful women are too irresistable. And unless I'm mistaken, they gave the world ABBA. 'Nuff said.
And Ace of Base. I think that makes them the worst country ever.
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 15:48
And Ace of Base. I think that makes them the worst country ever.
Didn't the Swedes invent smugness?

I mean, look at their history.

And look at Fass...
Aelosia
16-08-2006, 15:48
And Ace of Base. I think that makes them the worst country ever.


But they have the Cardigans!
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:49
Didn't the Swedes invent smugness?

I mean, look at their history.

And look at Fass...

I put Fass right up there with other great products of Sweden, like a-ha and the Gripen. :p
Andaluciae
16-08-2006, 15:50
Definitely the 'Democratic People's Republic of Korea'. Quite the impressive shithole it is.

CIA World Factbook:
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/kn.html

United Nations Human Development Reports:
http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/countries.cfm?c=PRK
Politeia utopia
16-08-2006, 15:52
I'd go with North Korea,

Then again...

I have little knowledge of North Korea...

I do know the middle east and unlike others I do not mind living there, so perhaps North Korea isn't that bad either.

Note that I currently would not want to live in Iraq or Saudi Arabia either...;)
Call to power
16-08-2006, 15:53
the country of the Mole people (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6302763924.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg) of course!

you did say in the world:p
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 15:53
But they have the Cardigans!

Excellent band.
Bolol
16-08-2006, 16:11
10 Places that Bolol would Rather not be:

Sudan: Violence, genocide and disease rampant

Somalia: Violence, famine and disease rampant

Democratic Republic of Congo: Any country that can't decide what its name is, is obviously unstable.

Iran: Bolol does not like theocracy

Saudi Arabia: Ditto

Iraq: Not a theocracy, but plenty of people who are willing to kill for religion.

North Korea: I could go on forever.

Columbia: Meet your friendly cartel death squad

Bosnia and Herezgovinia: WAY too many problems

Vietnam: ...I think not
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 16:14
Vietnam: ...I think not
I had a great vacation in Vietnam in the mid-1990s. What's not to like?

Other than the fact that they WILL convict pedophiles like Gary Glitter?
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 16:14
I had a great vacation in Vietnam in the mid-1990s. What's not to like?

Other than the fact that they WILL convict pedophiles like Gary Glitter?

That's a plus in my book.
Pyotr
16-08-2006, 16:17
10 Places that Bolol would Rather not be:
Democratic Republic of Congo: Any country that can't decide what its name is, is obviously unstable.


funny thing is the nicer the congo's name becomes the worse the situation gets.

so when it changes to the "super happy fabulous puppy-loving republic of the congo" then we know its REALLY gone to hell
Politeia utopia
16-08-2006, 16:18
10 Places that Bolol would Rather not be:
Iran: Bolol does not like theocracy

I will be visiting Iran next April,

(that is, if the warmongers do not get there first )

I will let you know how life is there :D
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 16:19
I will be visiting Iran next April,

(that is, if the warmongers do not get there first )

I will let you know how life is there :D

Stay well away from cities with nuclear power plants or military bases of any kind.

And bring some marshmallows and sticks, just in case. If you hear that the US is about to nuke the place, put a marshmallow on a stick and hold it up.
Pyotr
16-08-2006, 16:22
Stay well away from cities with nuclear power plants or military bases of any kind.

And bring some marshmallows and sticks, just in case. If you hear that the US is about to nuke the place, put a marshmallow on a stick and hold it up.

lol? wtf?

i think DKs syphilis is really starting to kick in
Politeia utopia
16-08-2006, 16:26
Stay well away from cities with nuclear power plants or military bases of any kind.

And bring some marshmallows and sticks, just in case. If you hear that the US is about to nuke the place, put a marshmallow on a stick and hold it up.
Frying marshmallows in nuclear fallout would probably spoil my trip to Iran…:(
Deep Kimchi
16-08-2006, 16:28
lol? wtf?

i think DKs syphilis is really starting to kick in
Yet another poster with absolutely no sense of humor.

Should I really put more XML tags in, like

<STOP READING IF YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR>
test message
</STOP READING IF YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR>
Ravea
16-08-2006, 20:05
Turkmenistan for the win.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 20:24
Somalia or NK
Gorias
16-08-2006, 20:45
I had a great vacation in Vietnam in the mid-1990s. What's not to like?

Other than the fact that they WILL convict pedophiles like Gary Glitter?

i think he only has a year or two in prison, but afterwards he gets deported back to england or where ever hes from. anyway theres a couple of warrents for his so back to jail agian.

so vietnam gets my thumbs up.
Ice Hockey Players
16-08-2006, 20:57
I was thinking a combination of "worst place to live" and "most batshit insane government." Both are important. I think we can throw in a few bonus points here.

Any nation that calls itself a "Democratic Republic" or a "People's Republic" in its long-form name gets bonus points. Bonus points if it uses both (this is the North Korea amendment.) Names like this are almost always Orwellian.

Ask yourself this question. If the party brass of the ruling party of a nation were to proclaim that two plus two is, in fact, five, how would the public react?

If they respond by ignoring the leader from then out and declaring that leader to be a fuckhead - no bonus points
If they immediately decide that two plus two indeed equals five - major bonus points
If they decry the leader and insist that two plus two is, in fact, three - lots of bonus points
If there is bloodshed in the streets between two factions, one that believes 2+2=5 and the other that 2+2=3 - we have a winner!

If the party leadership had tried to name a month or day of the week after a party member - definite bonus points

If the party leadership tries to switch over to Metric Time - a few bonus points

If the leader is a Holocaust denier or a denier of other established historical facts - a truckload of bonus points
If the leader was a Holocaust denier or something of that ilk but the current leader is not - only a carload of bonus points

If the nation has the death penalty for anything - a handful of points
If it has the death penalty for anything other than murder and stuff that's damn near murder - some more bonus points
If it has the death penalty for adhering to a religion other than the one the state endorses - bunches of bonus points
If it has the death penalty for crime victims and uses it more liberally than for crime perpetrators - send in a fleet of Peterbilts for all these bonus points

If the AIDS rate is more than 10% - double bonus points
If the AIDS rate is 10% and people believe in such cures as "ban gay sex" and "screw a virgin and be cured" - 5x bonus points
If the AIDS rate is 10%, people believe in phony-baloney cures, and the government encourages them to do so - 25x bonus points

If people are "sold" into anything, including prostitution and forced labor - pile on the points
If this is an everyday occurance and people sell family members, particularly children, in order to make ends meet - cover the town in points
If this practice is, in any way, tied th a high AIDS rate, a death penalty, or carries an Orwellian name - airlift the points in and keep 'em coming

If the country has had nukes and not used them for about a half century - the nation probably doesn't fit the mold of "batshit insane"
If the idea of a nation having nukes is unnerving - add a few batches of points
If the idea of a nation having nukes is positively frightening and very realistic - this nation is officially "batshit insane"

Those guidelines should help with classifying the worst places to live in the world. That said, I'll go with North Korea, because tree bark is not one of the four major food groups.
Markreich
16-08-2006, 21:00
Chad. Even worse than Zimbabwe!

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cd.html
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 21:34
I put Fass right up there with other great products of Sweden, like a-ha and the Gripen. :p

A-Ha are Norwegian.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 21:43
A-Ha are Norwegian.

Hmmm...apparently I had a memory malfunction (whoopsie!). There's still the Gripen, though. ;)
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 21:47
Hmmm...apparently I had a memory malfunction (whoopsie!). There's still the Gripen, though. ;)

Of which I am painfully aware, as they do that "fly by" thing over where I live several times a week.
Swilatia
16-08-2006, 21:48
Saudi Arabia
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 21:48
Of which I am painfully aware, as they do that "fly by" thing over where I live several times a week.

I'd actually like to see that. I've only seen video of 'em flying. Such as sweet aircraft.
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 21:52
I'd actually like to see that. I've only seen video of 'em flying. Such as sweet aircraft.

I'm not a fan of the war industry, and the only videos I've seen of the craft are the ones where it crashed spectacularly.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 21:54
I'm not a fan of the war industry, and the only videos I've seen of the craft are the ones where it crashed spectacularly.

Not the "war industry," as you call it. You can't appreciate a beautifully designed aircraft?
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 22:04
Not the "war industry," as you call it. You can't appreciate a beautifully designed aircraft?

It's "beautifully designed" to cause death.
Hortopia
16-08-2006, 22:04
Sub-Sahara goes without saying. China can really suck i think, especially if you are a peasat/journalist/wage slave.
Vydro
16-08-2006, 22:06
In europe the worst country by far to live in would be Moldova, though Belorusssia and some of the poorer balkan states wouldnt be far behind.

In Asia, a good number of countries dont seem too pleasant, but I wouldn't mind living in Japan, South Korea, Singapore and the urbanized portions of China. North Korea is pretty bad, and while the other Southeast Asian countries might not be that bad to visit, I still wouldn't want to live in them. And of course I wouldnt want to live anywhere in the middle east except Israel and *maybe* Jordan.

In Africa, I wouldn't want to live anywhere but South Africa. The worst country would probably be Swaziland.

In the Americas, its all better than Africa, and I cant really think of any place that is totally unlivable. The poorer central american countries arent that appealing though, Honduras, Guatemala, and such.

In Australia... uh... theres one country on the continent and it isnt too bad:P
Dzanissimo
16-08-2006, 22:08
I was thinking a combination of "worst place to live" and "most batshit insane government." Both are important. I think we can throw in a few bonus points here.

Any nation that calls itself a "Democratic Republic" or a "People's Republic" in its long-form name gets bonus points. Bonus points if it uses both (this is the North Korea amendment.) Names like this are almost always Orwellian.

Ask yourself this question. If the party brass of the ruling party of a nation were to proclaim that two plus two is, in fact, five, how would the public react?

If they respond by ignoring the leader from then out and declaring that leader to be a fuckhead - no bonus points
If they immediately decide that two plus two indeed equals five - major bonus points
If they decry the leader and insist that two plus two is, in fact, three - lots of bonus points
If there is bloodshed in the streets between two factions, one that believes 2+2=5 and the other that 2+2=3 - we have a winner!

If the party leadership had tried to name a month or day of the week after a party member - definite bonus points

If the party leadership tries to switch over to Metric Time - a few bonus points

If the leader is a Holocaust denier or a denier of other established historical facts - a truckload of bonus points
If the leader was a Holocaust denier or something of that ilk but the current leader is not - only a carload of bonus points

If the nation has the death penalty for anything - a handful of points
If it has the death penalty for anything other than murder and stuff that's damn near murder - some more bonus points
If it has the death penalty for adhering to a religion other than the one the state endorses - bunches of bonus points
If it has the death penalty for crime victims and uses it more liberally than for crime perpetrators - send in a fleet of Peterbilts for all these bonus points

If the AIDS rate is more than 10% - double bonus points
If the AIDS rate is 10% and people believe in such cures as "ban gay sex" and "screw a virgin and be cured" - 5x bonus points
If the AIDS rate is 10%, people believe in phony-baloney cures, and the government encourages them to do so - 25x bonus points

If people are "sold" into anything, including prostitution and forced labor - pile on the points
If this is an everyday occurance and people sell family members, particularly children, in order to make ends meet - cover the town in points
If this practice is, in any way, tied th a high AIDS rate, a death penalty, or carries an Orwellian name - airlift the points in and keep 'em coming

If the country has had nukes and not used them for about a half century - the nation probably doesn't fit the mold of "batshit insane"
If the idea of a nation having nukes is unnerving - add a few batches of points
If the idea of a nation having nukes is positively frightening and very realistic - this nation is officially "batshit insane"

Those guidelines should help with classifying the worst places to live in the world. That said, I'll go with North Korea, because tree bark is not one of the four major food groups.

Very elaborate. I would sign under this definitions. And I would vote North Korea too. The one country I would never ever want to live. And the only country I would not want to rule - I am not too sympathetic, but I think if I would really know what's going there in details, I would cry at night.
Amadenijad
16-08-2006, 22:22
i'd have to go w/ these as my top 3

3: Sudan
2: N. Korea
1: Lebanon (at least now, specifically beirut)



GO ISRAEL!!!!!!!
LiberationFrequency
16-08-2006, 22:23
Scotland
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 22:24
It's "beautifully designed" to cause death.

Actually, it's primarily an interceptor, so it's designed to prevent others from causing death.
Amadenijad
16-08-2006, 22:24
OH MY GOD...RECORD!!!!!!

NOBODY HAS SAID THAT THE UNITED STATES IS THE WORST COUNTRY AND WE'RE 4 PAGES IN. WO0t!
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 22:25
Actually, it's primarily an interceptor, so it's designed to prevent others from causing death.

Sure it is. By sending them flowers and cookies.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 22:26
Sure it is. By sending them flowers and cookies.

No, by preventing other aircraft from launching air-to-surface missiles and dropping bombs.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 22:28
OH MY GOD...RECORD!!!!!!

NOBODY HAS SAID THAT THE UNITED STATES IS THE WORST COUNTRY AND WE'RE 4 PAGES IN. WO0t!

US is worst country :cool:
Dzanissimo
16-08-2006, 22:29
US is worst country :cool:

You forgot "the". But I wouldn't want to live there either.
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 22:30
US is worst country :cool:

Had to go and do it, didn't you? :p
Iztatepopotla
16-08-2006, 22:31
It's "beautifully designed" to cause death.
Just like Ace of Base.
Amadenijad
16-08-2006, 22:32
US is worst country :cool:


come on, you ruined all my fun.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 22:32
Had to go and do it, didn't you? :p

yep couldnt resist
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 22:32
No, by preventing other aircraft from launching air-to-surface missiles and dropping bombs.

So that's how it is justified, war, through clinicising denial.
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 22:32
Just like Ace of Base.

Too bad it didn't work.
Ieuano
16-08-2006, 22:32
come on, you ruined all my fun.

as you said 4 pages without some semi-witty guy saying it? It had to be done
Cluichstan
16-08-2006, 22:33
So that's how it is justified, war, through clinicising denial.

No, Fass, it's called defending yourself.
Iztatepopotla
16-08-2006, 22:34
Too bad it didn't work.
Motorhead's Ace of Spades was a good antidote.
Warta Endor
16-08-2006, 22:40
OH MY GOD...RECORD!!!!!!

NOBODY HAS SAID THAT THE UNITED STATES IS THE WORST COUNTRY AND WE'RE 4 PAGES IN. WO0t!

Well, pretty obvious. We are all scared of Deep Kimchi and Berrygoldwater...

*runs away*:p
Baguetten
16-08-2006, 22:49
No, Fass, it's called defending yourself.

It's called "moral destitution."
The blessed Chris
16-08-2006, 22:50
Sweden. Irritaing socialist mediocrity incarnate.
Greater Valinor
16-08-2006, 22:59
Hmmm, Israel hasn't been mentioned yet...pretty weird for NS General. What's even more interesting is that more UN resolutions have been passed condemning Israel than any of the horrible places you all have been naming. Maybe Kofi Annan should sign onto NS General so he can see where the real work needs to be done.
Mikesburg
16-08-2006, 23:01
Sweden. Irritaing socialist mediocrity incarnate.

What did I do? Sweden's OK! Really! I change my vote to Canada! We're bad! Bad Canada, Bad!


No, by preventing other aircraft from launching air-to-surface missiles and dropping bombs.

Not that I'm 'anti-war industry', but Interceptors are weapons of war, no question. You use them to create Air Superiority in war, so you can proceed to bomb the hell out of your enemy, 'Defensive' War, or 'Aggressive' War.
Terecia
16-08-2006, 23:03
Though it rhymes with my name, North Korea.
AB Again
16-08-2006, 23:09
Why are people saying that Haiti is OK?

Although economic sanctions and US-led military intervention forced a return to constitutional government in 1994, Haiti's fortunes did not pick up, with allegations of electoral irregularities, ongoing extra-judicial killings, torture and brutality.

Basically it is a country run by crimianl gangs with an impotent political infrastructure that is propped up like a cardboard cut-out by the UN peace keepingforces.

It has endemic poverty, widespread human rights abuses, no medical facilities worth mentioning and a collapsed economy.

Yes it is in the Americas, but it is a hell on earth at the moment.
Super-power
16-08-2006, 23:21
Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea - just the name alone invokes the Democratic Naming Law (the number of references to democracy and freedom in the name is inversely proportional to the civil liberties)
Boonytopia
16-08-2006, 23:29
Somlia, their citizens weren't allowed to watch the World Cup.
Avika
16-08-2006, 23:43
*looks at first two posts and can't find "United States of America" or Isreal anywhere.

Quick, someone call Ripley's Believe it or Not. Call Guiness too. We have a new world record for "# of posts about 'Worst country' lacking the US or Isreal". I know, I'm scared too.

As for worst, I'd say North Korea. I mean, damn, I thought Nazi Germany was oppressive. I thought The Soviet Union under Stalin was oppressive. Compared to North "Wacko wacko commie nutcase leader land" Korea, those are beacons of democracy, tolerance, and freedom and that's really saying something.
Amaralandia
16-08-2006, 23:48
Somalia and NK. Yeah.
Maraque
16-08-2006, 23:50
Haiti.
Empress_Suiko
16-08-2006, 23:52
Canada. http://www.smileyhut.com/angry/blowup.gif
Darknovae
17-08-2006, 00:04
Canada. http://www.smileyhut.com/angry/blowup.gif


Canada? I'd say N Korea, hands down, no questions asked. Middle Eastern and African countries all tie for 2nd place.
[NS]Fergi America
17-08-2006, 01:02
North Korea seems to be the worst. And I would vote North Korea too. The one country I would never ever want to live. And the only country I would not want to rule - I am not too sympathetic, but I think if I would really know what's going there in details, I would cry at night.I wouldn't want to live there as anything but the ruler. But I would LOVE to take over such a place! Practically anything I'd do would improve it. Just by not being an evil whacko, I should be able to bring up the standard of living exponentially and get me the love of the people as a bonus.

On the other hand, if I took over a 1st-world country, any real misstep may lower the standard of living. And, the people holler at every little thing as if the goverment's just committed genocide on them. No matter what the government of a 1st-world country does, some people hate it and get very vocal about it. So there's a constant drumbeat of negative feedback even if the gov is doing its best. What a depressing proposition.

So given the choice, I'd go for ruling, and improving, the shithole. It's pretty much a can't-lose proposition. Especially North Korea, where all the problems seem to be coming from how they're mismanaging things. I'd expect it to be a lot easier for me, as the Ultimate Ruler, to fix that kind of stuff than some fundamental nature-based problem like droughts or plagues.
M3rcenaries
17-08-2006, 01:03
I'll go with Sudan. Escpecially if you're on the wrong side of the Jangaweed militia...
Liberated New Ireland
17-08-2006, 01:09
Sweden.

Their affordable modular furniture and beautiful women are too irresistable. And unless I'm mistaken, they gave the world ABBA. 'Nuff said.
Wait, doesn't a lot of death metal come from Sweden? Or is it just Norway?
Neo Undelia
17-08-2006, 01:15
North Korea. No contest.
M3rcenaries
17-08-2006, 01:16
Wait, doesn't a lot of death metal come from Sweden? Or is it just Norway?
As earlier stated Ace of Base comes from sweden. *shudders*
Liberated New Ireland
17-08-2006, 01:45
As earlier stated Ace of Base comes from sweden. *shudders*
Well, it's also home to Carnage, Nihilist, Entombed, Dismember, Unleashed, At the Gates, Dark Tranquillity, and In Flames. I'm pretty sure Dethclok also came from Sweden. I think the sheer number of death metal bands can counter "I Saw The Sign" *thunder cracks and babies cry at the mention of the cursed song*.

After all, everything will be metal.
Markreich
17-08-2006, 13:22
Well, it's also home to Carnage, Nihilist, Entombed, Dismember, Unleashed, At the Gates, Dark Tranquillity, and In Flames. I'm pretty sure Dethclok also came from Sweden. I think the sheer number of death metal bands can counter "I Saw The Sign" *thunder cracks and babies cry at the mention of the cursed song*.

After all, everything will be metal.

Yeah. But you also unleashed Abba and the (somewhat more tolerable) Roxette. That's double penalty points when added to the Ace of Base trifecta! :D

..."at Waterloo Napoleon did surrender...."
Meath Street
17-08-2006, 13:24
What, in you humble opinion is the worst country in the world?

no poll, over 30 candidates

my vote goes to Cote D'Ivoire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire
How can you choose to name a country as best or worse? So many variables.

The countries with the worst governments IMO are Sudan and North Korea.