NationStates Jolt Archive

"Nasrallah, in his television address, suggested that for the time being the Hezbollah militia in southern Lebanon is the only way to defend Lebanon's sovereignty against Israel." I read this in the paper this morning and couldnt help but wonder how that works......Hezbollah provokes Israel with rocket attacks until they are forced to respond....amazingly they invade where hezbollah is hiding :eek: which happens to be Lebanon, yet they claim to be defending the sovereignty? Yet without there actions there was no reason to invade. And the international community cries out in horror and shock when Israel bombs a building full of women and children.....is it right....I dont think so civilians shouldnt be killed in war of course not......but arent we forgetting that the war was basically started because Hezbollah cant seem to stop indiscriminately killing Israeli civilians? Yet this sight in the news has become so common it doenst bring the horror that we feel when we hear of israeli bombs killing a building full of women and children......oh hezbollah launched more rockets....they suicide bombed...we hear it so often it no longer has the power to shock. Anyway my solution would be to give Israel full international backing let them stamp out hezbollah....if they have to take over Lebanon in the proces well Lebanon shouldnt harbor terrorists :)

The cease fire was way too early. Already Hezbollasshole representatives in the Lebanese government are denying that the cease fire agreement involves disarming Hezbolla. The world failed to allow Israel to win this war decisively, and in doing so have condemned Lebanon and Israel to fight this war again in the future.

My solution would be to rig a giant weather controlling device that would create winter-like conditions throughout the middle-east for 8 months of the year. Everyone will be so shocked by the cold and the snow, that they will be too busy trying to stay warm, and not having their senses addled by extreme heat. When the sunnier 4 months of the year come by, everyone will be too busy enjoying the sunshine to want to fight.

They tried that in Canada, and people bitch about the weather more than anything else. It would work.

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I think before last week, the solution was to pound Hezbollah until it was anhilated.

Now, I don't know.

It seems like even Israel is either unwilling or unable to follow through, so what's left?

I've got a bad feeling about this.

but arent we forgetting that the war was basically started because Hezbollah cant seem to stop indiscriminately killing Israeli civilians?
The war didn't start because Hezb'allah was indiscriminately killing Israeli civilians.
The war started because Hezb'allah attacked the IDF... a military target.

they suicide bombed
When and where in or preceding this conflict?

Anyway my solution would be to give Israel full international backing let them stamp out hezbollah....if they have to take over Lebanon in the proces well Lebanon shouldnt harbor terrorists :)
Even though Hezb'allah is not recognised internationally as a terrorist group?

Although I agree with your general sentiments of the post, your facts are a little off and slightly misleading.

Destroying Hizbu-llah by use of force is a mistake and will not bring Israel any security gains....

Hizbu-llah can only be destroyed by taking away the reasons for Hizbu-llah...

The war didn't start because Hezb'allah was indiscriminately killing Israeli civilians.
The war started because Hezb'allah attacked the IDF... a military target.

When and where in or preceding this conflict?

Even though Hezb'allah is not recognised internationally as a terrorist group?

Although I agree with your general sentiments of the post, your facts are a little off and slightly misleading.

Some countries recognize Hez as a terrorist group and some do not.

The same problem people had with the IRA.

I might add that Hez claims that they are entitled to attack Israel because they believe that they own Shebaa Farms, which is currently under IDF control. The UN has extensively investigated the claim, and found it to be false in every way, and based only on a forged map and forged land deeds.

And, they also claim, that they are entitled to attack Israel, even if they get Shebaa Farms, because they feel they are entitled to destroy Israel.

Some countries recognize Hez as a terrorist group and some do not.

The same problem people had with the IRA.

I might add that Hez claims that they are entitled to attack Israel because they believe that they own Shebaa Farms, which is currently under IDF control. The UN has extensively investigated the claim, and found it to be false in every way, and based only on a forged map and forged land deeds.

And, they also claim, that they are entitled to attack Israel, even if they get Shebaa Farms, because they feel they are entitled to destroy Israel.


You are right, but as I said before they can be persuaded to drop their struggle to the point where them become a dying nuisance

Some countries recognize Hez as a terrorist group and some do not.

The same problem people had with the IRA.
Exactly. I don't agree with it, but that international and structuralism for you.


I might add that Hez claims that they are entitled to attack Israel because they believe that they own Shebaa Farms, which is currently under IDF control. The UN has extensively investigated the claim, and found it to be false in every way, and based only on a forged map and forged land deeds.
That is their primary casus belli. I again don't agree with it considering it's a pile of rocks close to a village and only Syria and Lebanon deem it to be Lebanese. Internationally, it is deemed Syrian and is being occupied/controlled by Israel.


And, they also claim, that they are entitled to attack Israel, even if they get Shebaa Farms, because they feel they are entitled to destroy Israel.
I wouldn't be surprised if that became they're rallying cry if they ever got control of the land.

However, after this conflict I have a feeling the will go more the route of the IRA. Become more involved in government (more power, be "legit") and their military wing be subsumed into the Lebanese Army. Spells bad news really.

However, after this conflict I have a feeling the will go more the route of the IRA. Become more involved in government (more power, be "legit") and their military wing be subsumed into the Lebanese Army. Spells bad news really.
Look how long the IRA has been around.

Look how long the IRA has been around.
Roughly a hundred years (give or take).

Militarily they stopped in the Republic once their political wing became successful.

In the North, its only been less than a decade. They have been quiet (ish).

(Saying nothing about splinter groups and I imagine the same could happen in Lebanon with disgruntled fighters/extremists.)

Look how long the IRA has been around.

First lesson about organisations...

They last period...

If they are obsolete they will find a new goal in life..

Organisations do change though and so will hizbu-llah...

They will go the way of the Political movement eventually....

That is if Lebanon is not bombed

Destroying Hizbu-llah by use of force is a mistake and will not bring Israel any security gains....

Hizbu-llah can only be destroyed by taking away the reasons for Hizbu-llah...
I like the way you think. We should nuke Syria and Iran then.

I like the way you think. We should nuke Syria and Iran then.


Is I posted before, there will be no nuking of Iran!!!

It will totally screw up my visit...:(


That would not solve the problem of Hizbu-llah and it would create new threats.... Some of you do people seem quite capable of producing new problems instead of solving old ones :D

The way to Hizbu-llah is through the support of the lebanese people...