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Death Star vs. Unicron!

Delator
15-08-2006, 07:46
Well...it's a simple question.

One Death Star

Pics (like you need 'em :p ) -

PIC 1 (http://www.dutch-starwars.com/database/wapens/pics/ds_super_laser.jpg)
PIC 2 (http://blogs.20minutos.es/retiario/imagen/death-star.jpg)

vs.

One Planet Eating Robot......Unicron

Pics -

PIC 1 (http://www.transfan-asylum.org/screencap/caps/nonTF/unicron3.jpg)
PIC 2 (http://i1.tinypic.com/o86gd5.jpg)

Which one wins???

POLL COMING
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 07:48
Well...it's a simple question.

One Death Star

Pics (like you need 'em :p ) -

PIC 1 (http://www.dutch-starwars.com/database/wapens/pics/ds_super_laser.jpg)
PIC 2 (http://blogs.20minutos.es/retiario/imagen/death-star.jpg)

vs.

One Planet Eating Robot......Unicron

Pics -

PIC 1 (http://www.transfan-asylum.org/screencap/caps/nonTF/unicron3.jpg)
PIC 2 (http://i1.tinypic.com/o86gd5.jpg)

Which one wins???

POLL COMING


unicron destroyed soundwave... unicron is by far more evil....
Lunatic Goofballs
15-08-2006, 07:56
Simple: Death Star. It can obliterate Unicron at range. Unicron never even gets close. *nod*
Boonytopia
15-08-2006, 08:20
Death Star approaching.
Greater Alemannia
15-08-2006, 08:44
Who would win; the mighty robots from Battlestar Galactica or the gay robots from Star Wars? >_>
Lunatic Goofballs
15-08-2006, 10:16
Who would win; the mighty robots from Battlestar Galactica or the gay robots from Star Wars? >_>

Whoever has R2-D2 on their side always wins. *nod*
Harlesburg
15-08-2006, 11:17
Death Star.
The Range comment swung my vote.;)
HC Eredivisie
15-08-2006, 14:09
Unicron, it eats planets (and it is from Transformers, the best show ever (come on, how many shows have a metal intro nowadays?)).

My vote made it 50-50:p
Super-power
15-08-2006, 14:17
Unless Unicron can spawn fighters and attack the Death Star's thermal exhaust port, Death Star wins out of sheer range of the superlaser.
Revasser
15-08-2006, 14:57
Unicron is a god. (Comic canon, you TV couch knights!)

Unicron wins.
Cluichstan
15-08-2006, 15:05
The Death Star has its own Pez dispenser.

http://www.juicyraoul.com/pez/pictures/p1509.jpg

Thus, Death Star FTW! :D
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 15:33
The Death Star has its own Pez dispenser.

http://www.juicyraoul.com/pez/pictures/p1509.jpg

Thus, Death Star FTW! :D


i have that pez despenser. actually i have the whole set


....does that make me a dork?
Cluichstan
15-08-2006, 15:34
i have that pez despenser. actually i have the whole set


....does that make me a dork?

No, that just adds to your dorkiness. There are so many other things that make you a dork. :p

EDIT: And I'm jealous. My gf wouldn't let me buy the Star Wars Pez set. :(
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 15:41
No, that just adds to your dorkiness. There are so many other things that make you a dork. :p

EDIT: And I'm jealous. My gf wouldn't let me buy the Star Wars Pez set. :(

true, i am one big dork.......


it was an xmas present :D
Cluichstan
15-08-2006, 15:42
true, i am one big dork.......


it was an xmas present :D

Hell, tops on my Christmas list for this past year was Star Wars Battlefront II. And I play it at least two hours a day.
[NS]Eraclea
15-08-2006, 15:44
Transformers don't have energy shields. Since Unicron is like a planet itself... its going bye-bye.
The Alma Mater
15-08-2006, 15:50
Unless Unicron can spawn fighters and attack the Death Star's thermal exhaust port, Death Star wins out of sheer range of the superlaser.

Unicron can probably do that. We know it is capable of improving the design of existing transformers (see Galvatron) and that it uses servants.
[NS]Eraclea
15-08-2006, 15:51
Unicron can probably do that. We know it is capable of improving the design of existing transformers (see Galvatron) and that it uses servants.

They don't have the force and the Deus ex Machina on their side. Not possible.
The Alma Mater
15-08-2006, 15:53
Eraclea']They don't have the force and the Deus ex Machina on their side. Not possible.

What do you call the autobot matrix of leadership (and Rodimus Prime for that matter) then ;) ?
[NS]Eraclea
15-08-2006, 15:56
What do you call the autobot matrix of leadership (and Rodimus Prime for that matter) then ;) ?

Deus ex Machina is the only way the Death Star was destroyed, the second one way was to make it blow itself up, but as we BOTH know no Robot can do that. So Death Star 2.0 or even the first will own Unicron's butt from a far distance.

Also the Death Star can fire every hour and can move faster then Unicron. :) I think Unicron gets owned.
Super-power
15-08-2006, 16:18
Eraclea']Also the Death Star can fire every hour and can move faster then Unicron. :) I think Unicron gets owned.
Well Death Star II can, at least. Death Star I takes a day to charge.
Swilatia
15-08-2006, 16:44
the death star, cuz it can destroy anything, even this unicron.
New Stalinberg
15-08-2006, 16:56
unicron destroyed soundwave... unicron is by far more evil....

ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!?!!?!!?! HE KILLED SOUNDWAVE?!!?!??!??!
Smunkeeville
15-08-2006, 17:12
EDIT: And I'm jealous. My gf wouldn't let me buy the Star Wars Pez set. :(
why not? I let my husband get them........and display them.......in my formal living room :headbang: (they are kinda cool though)
Cluichstan
15-08-2006, 17:14
why not? I let my husband get them........and display them.......in my formal living room :headbang: (they are kinda cool though)

I'm whipped. What can I say? :(
Megaloria
15-08-2006, 17:48
Unicron, of course. He does, in fact, have ranged armaments,and doesn't take hours to power up. By the time the Death Star has got that thing aimed, Unicron has transformed, moved around behind it, and started chowing down.
Kecibukia
15-08-2006, 17:55
ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!?!!?!!?! HE KILLED SOUNDWAVE?!!?!??!??!

Really. When did that happen. I just watched the movie this morning and don't remember that.
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 17:56
why not? I let my husband get them........and display them.......in my formal living room :headbang: (they are kinda cool though)


if i had a place to display them in my apt i would. but shelving space is rather limited....
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 17:57
this is the one i have (and its never comin out the package)

http://i15.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/ce/46/2a_1.JPG
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 17:58
Really. When did that happen. I just watched the movie this morning and don't remember that.


I thought that did happen in the movie, i remember as a kid being really upset about it. (or maybe it was someone else that was killed off)


then again its been too long since ive seen it. (at least 15 years)
Lt_Cody
15-08-2006, 18:01
Death Star. Even without the superlaser. The thing has tens of thousands of guns and missiles sprawled all over its surface, they can't miss something as big as Unicron :D
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 18:02
Death Star. Even without the superlaser. The thing has tens of thousands of guns and missiles sprawled all over its surface, they can't miss something as big as Unicron :D


but the death star can be taken down by a whiny mark hamill, thus making it less evil.....
[NS]Gerrania
15-08-2006, 18:08
but the death star can be taken down by a whiny mark hamill, thus making it less evil.....

But I was going to pick up some power converters! :(
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 18:09
Gerrania']But I was going to pick up some power converters! :(


you said i could go to the flight academy this season!

.....or whatever it was he bitched about......
Kecibukia
15-08-2006, 18:10
I thought that did happen in the movie, i remember as a kid being really upset about it. (or maybe it was someone else that was killed off)


then again its been too long since ive seen it. (at least 15 years)

Wiki doesn't say anything about it but says he was destroyed then rebuilt during the "Headmasters" line of cartoons as SoundBlaster
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 18:11
Wiki doesn't say anything about it but says he was destroyed then rebuilt during the "Headmasters" line of cartoons as SoundBlaster


ah nevermind then. Unicron is still far more evil though.....

who was killed off in the TF movie then? i could have sworn someone was....
Lt_Cody
15-08-2006, 18:12
but the death star can be taken down by a whiny mark hamill, thus making it less evil.....
Ah, but it wasn't Mark Hamill, it was the Force.... ;) :D
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 18:13
Ah, but it wasn't Mark Hamill, it was the Force.... ;) :D


its still mark hamill nonetheless......
Kecibukia
15-08-2006, 18:16
ah nevermind then. Unicron is still far more evil though.....

who was killed off in the TF movie then? i could have sworn someone was....

Lots were. Most of the Decepticons were converted by Unicron but bunches of Autobots were killed. I remember when they brought back Optimus in the post movie series, they had a whole mosaleum for them.
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 18:19
Lots were. Most of the Decepticons were converted by Unicron but bunches of Autobots were killed. I remember when they brought back Optimus in the post movie series, they had a whole mosaleum for them.

ah now i remember why i was so upset after seeing the film (RIP Autobots:( )


Grimlock on the other hand never dies....he just owns.
Kecibukia
15-08-2006, 18:36
ah now i remember why i was so upset after seeing the film (RIP Autobots:( )


Grimlock on the other hand never dies....he just owns.

The death of Optimus scene still gets me and I'm 32.
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 18:46
The death of Optimus scene still gets me and I'm 32.


yeah that got to me too, but no scene got to me like godzilla 1985...

..when they lure godzilla into the volcano to suffer a fiery death...at least thats what you thought in '85

I still shed a tear along with raymond burr everytime i see that ending....oh and the ending of godzilla vs destroyah when daddy godzilla melts down....
JuNii
15-08-2006, 19:02
I thought that did happen in the movie, i remember as a kid being really upset about it. (or maybe it was someone else that was killed off)


then again its been too long since ive seen it. (at least 15 years)
it might have happened in the later series... either Energon or Armada... or something like that...
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 19:04
it might have happened in the later series... either Energon or Armada... or something like that...


only TF series i watched was the original, and beast wars.


i hated armada, and ive never seen energon
JuNii
15-08-2006, 19:04
I say Unicron...

why?

the Death star was blown up twice by fighters shooting torpedoes in it's innards...


Unicron can only be destroyed by the Autobot Matrix of Leadership. and once that is used, it takes generations to recharge it.

so if Unicron is reactivated before it's recharged...
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 19:07
only reason death star is winning is my popularity, not by sheer power and force...
Revasser
15-08-2006, 19:11
so if Unicron is reactivated before it's recharged...

Starscream's ghost tried that once by (among other things) attempting to attach Unicron's disembodied head to Cybertron in return for a new body.

Screamer got his body then double-crossed old Uni, but then got his newly recreated arse blow into deep space by some passing Decepticons.

Poor guy never got a break.
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 19:16
Starscream's ghost tried that once by (among other things) attempting to attach Unicron's disembodied head to Cybertron in return for a new body.

Screamer got his body then double-crossed old Uni, but then got his newly recreated arse blow into deep space by some passing Decepticons.

Poor guy never got a break.

funny how life does that to you......
Crumpet Stone
15-08-2006, 19:19
dude, how is that even a question? Whoever has seen Transformers, the Movie has to see how amazingly powerful Unicron is. The only way he can be destroyed is from the inside, whereas Death Star got destroyed by a couple of Teenagers. Plus, when Unicron isn't a planet, it's a huge Samurai, giving it good self-esteem.
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 19:21
dude, how is that even a question? Whoever has seen Transformers, the Movie has to see how amazingly powerful Unicron is. The only way he can be destroyed is from the inside, whereas Death Star got destroyed by a couple of Teenagers. Plus, when Unicron isn't a planet, it's a huge Samurai, giving it good self-esteem.


...and bad ass weapons.
Barbaric Tribes
15-08-2006, 19:27
Bill and Ted.
Revasser
15-08-2006, 19:29
...and bad ass weapons.

Like that awesome head-destroying red light thing he does to Galvatron.

He could just disable the entire Death Star crew from afar and then chow down at his leisure.
JuNii
15-08-2006, 19:33
Starscream's ghost tried that once by (among other things) attempting to attach Unicron's disembodied head to Cybertron in return for a new body.

Screamer got his body then double-crossed old Uni, but then got his newly recreated arse blow into deep space by some passing Decepticons.

Poor guy never got a break.so what happens if Uni get's attached to the death star...
Gauthier
15-08-2006, 19:37
I vote for the "None: Planet Killers Always Get Blown Up" option.
The Squeaky Rat
15-08-2006, 19:41
This poll lacks Galactus :(
Gauthier
15-08-2006, 19:45
This poll lacks Galactus :(

Galactus takes forever to suck a planet dry. Your average Hive Fleet does it a whole lot quicker.

:p
The Alma Mater
15-08-2006, 19:46
Galactus takes forever to suck a planet dry. Your average Hive Fleet does it a whole lot quicker.

:p

And how about the Vorlon or Shadow planetkillers ?
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 19:46
Like that awesome head-destroying red light thing he does to Galvatron.

He could just disable the entire Death Star crew from afar and then chow down at his leisure.


...and this further proves that the death star is only winning due to the popularity of star wars.....
The Squeaky Rat
15-08-2006, 19:49
Galactus takes forever to suck a planet dry. Your average Hive Fleet does it a whole lot quicker.

:p
But the Power Cosmic kicks the Forces ass ;)
Gauthier
15-08-2006, 19:50
And how about the Vorlon or Shadow planetkillers ?

The Vorlon Lemon didn't even get a chance to crush a pebble.

And what's so awesome about an expanding cotton cloud that drills missiles into the planet's core? Give me a pay-per-view Exterminatus any time.
Gauthier
15-08-2006, 19:51
But the Power Cosmic kicks the Forces ass ;)

I was talking about a Tyrannid Hive Fleet. Those are scary.

"World Devastators"? A bunch of orbiting GM Plants waiting to be shut down.
The Parkus Empire
15-08-2006, 20:19
Gerrania']But I was going to pick up some power converters! :(
Acually: "But I was going to the Tashi [Tashy?] Station to pick up some power-converters!"

"You can waste time with your friends when your chores are done."
Minoriteeburg
15-08-2006, 20:20
Acually: "But I was going to the Tashi [Tashy?] Station to pick up some power-converters!"

"You can waste time with your friends when your chores are done."


+100 dork points to parkus!
Delator
15-08-2006, 20:31
ah nevermind then. Unicron is still far more evil though.....

who was killed off in the TF movie then? i could have sworn someone was....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_The_Movie

Autobots

Brawn
Prowl
Ratchet
Ironhide
Optimus Prime
Wheeljack
Windcharger
Huffer

Decepticons

Megatron
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Bombshell
Kickback
Shrapnel
Starscream

Many of the Decepticons (including Megatron), floating in space and near death, were transformed by Unicron into new, more powerful Transformers.
PsychoticDan
15-08-2006, 20:52
I have a picture of you guys.

http://www.cmukgb.org/images/activities/mystery/geeks.jpg
Revasser
15-08-2006, 21:05
I have a picture of you guys.

http://www.cmukgb.org/images/activities/mystery/geeks.jpg

And proud. This is the internet. You're in our domain now, bitch. :p
Liberated New Ireland
15-08-2006, 22:21
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_The_Movie



Many of the Decepticons (including Megatron), floating in space and near death, were transformed by Unicron into new, more powerful Transformers.
Yeah, that part of the movie is awesome... makes me think of the Pink Floyd "Eclipse" video...

And Unicron beats the Death Star, 'cause it's Unicron, for chrissakes. I doubt even the Death Star can defeat something several times the size of Alderaan, and made of reinforced metal...
[NS]Gerrania
15-08-2006, 23:20
Unicron = drawing with whatever medium on whatever canvas

Death Star = model of foam, plastic, paint, etc

Death Star could totally tear Unicron up...literally ;)
Desperate Measures
15-08-2006, 23:21
It depends on if Unicron can stay on target.
[NS]Gerrania
15-08-2006, 23:27
It depends on if Unicron can stay on target.

lol, it's funny because I get the reference. :D
Hydesland
15-08-2006, 23:38
Hmmm, tricky one this....

On one hand Deathstar can destroy Unicron from range, but Unicron has much more moverability (sp?).

Deathstars weapon takes ages to reload, and by that time Unicron would been able to take it out so i would go with Unicron.
Hydesland
15-08-2006, 23:40
I have a picture of you guys.

http://www.cmukgb.org/images/activities/mystery/geeks.jpg

Lmao...

Oh shit i have posted here too! :eek:

*fucks off*
Utracia
15-08-2006, 23:45
+100 dork points to parkus!

What Star Wars fan doesn't know that? Just think... what if Uncle Owen allowed Luke to go? Would he have chased after R2-D2 the next morning and then meeting Obi-Wan? Perhaps he would have died at the farm when the stormtroopers came calling? :eek:
[NS]Eraclea
15-08-2006, 23:46
Hmmm, tricky one this....

On one hand Deathstar can destroy Unicron from range, but Unicron has much more moverability (sp?).

Deathstars weapon takes ages to reload, and by that time Unicron would been able to take it out so i would go with Unicron.

Death Star can go hyperspace, Unicron can't. It's weapon is light-speed, Unicron cannot move THAT fast.
Darknovae
15-08-2006, 23:54
*snip*

Oh, Unicron. I thought you meant Unicorn, and had made a typo. :p
[NS]Eraclea
16-08-2006, 00:07
Oh, Unicron. I thought you meant Unicorn, and had made a typo. :p

Unicorn... rofl. Pwned.
JuNii
16-08-2006, 00:07
Eraclea']Death Star can go hyperspace, Unicron can't. It's weapon is light-speed, Unicron cannot move THAT fast.
no proof of that. one, they never show the Death Star moving through Hyperspace.

two, Unicron destroyed more planets than the Death Star. so you cannot assume that Unicron cannot match, if not beat, the Death Star for manuverability and speed.
Rhursbourg
16-08-2006, 00:24
are supposing that the crew know what Unicorn is and dont rpeat that that line form TF the Movie when seeing it
Utracia
16-08-2006, 00:28
no proof of that. one, they never show the Death Star moving through Hyperspace.

How the hell can the Death Star move to destroy planets if it can't go to hyperspace? Move from Alderaan to Yavin? Hyperspace travel would be neccessary for it to be effective.
Gauthier
16-08-2006, 00:29
no proof of that. one, they never show the Death Star moving through Hyperspace.

SW canon techs explicitly state that the Death Star has hyperspace capabilities. What? You thought Alderaan and Yavin IV are in the same solar system?

two, Unicron destroyed more planets than the Death Star. so you cannot assume that Unicron cannot match, if not beat, the Death Star for manuverability and speed.

Both are planet killers. Both blew up. End of story.
JuNii
16-08-2006, 00:34
How the hell can the Death Star move to destroy planets if it can't go to hyperspace? Move from Alderaan to Yavin? Hyperspace travel would be neccessary for it to be effective.
true, it can be assumed that. My main point is that both DS and Unicron can possibly be matched evenly for long space journies tho it can be argued that conventional speed and manuverability may have Unicron with the edge.
Harlesburg
16-08-2006, 08:42
Unicron, it eats planets (and it is from Transformers, the best show ever (come on, how many shows have a metal intro nowadays?)).

My vote made it 50-50:p
I just voted and it is 40-21.:)
Transformers has been butt raped by marketing agents trying to sell it to the kiddies.
Why can't they watch the originals?
I do.:)
Harlesburg
16-08-2006, 08:43
true, it can be assumed that. My main point is that both DS and Unicron can possibly be matched evenly for long space journies tho it can be argued that conventional speed and manuverability may have Unicron with the edge.
*Jumps in*
But The Death Star would Smote Unicron before he got in close.
The Alma Mater
16-08-2006, 09:09
*Jumps in*
But The Death Star would Smote Unicron before he got in close.

Why do people assume that ? Based on the upgraded transformers Unicrons weapons technology is superior to that of the empire, except where shields are concerned.