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Best SF TV Series?

Brockadia
14-08-2006, 00:43
For those of you who like Science Fiction on TV: which of the above Sci-Fi TV series do you like best?

Poll Incoming
Rasselas
14-08-2006, 00:53
Stargate (SG1)
Outcast Jesuits
14-08-2006, 00:55
Star Trek TNG...I've never seen half of the others, though...I don't have the Sci-Fi channel. :(
Brockadia
14-08-2006, 00:58
I haven't seen most of them either, I just remember seeing Quantum Leap years and years ago, and loving it. When Enterprise came out, I really couldn't see Bakula as anyone but Sam Beckett (especially in that episode where the guy that played Al guest stars). I've also seen SG-1, some of Andromeda, and a very few episodes of Farscape and Lexx, but all of the other ones, I just included because they tend to be the most popular.
Call to power
14-08-2006, 01:02
Doctor Who is awesome

and I haven’t met anyone who says its nerdy to watch probably because they too shit scared of the Daleks like me (even my spell-check dares not mention there name!)
Mercury God
14-08-2006, 01:04
yeah, give it up for Stargate!
Kapsilan
14-08-2006, 01:06
Oh! Sci-Fi! When I read the thread title, I thought "San Francisco". Star Trek, by the way.
Dododecapod
14-08-2006, 01:15
Firefly, for me. Cut down before it could blossom...:(
Anti-Social Darwinism
14-08-2006, 01:29
What happened to Battlestar Galactica (the new one)? Otherwise, except for Lexx, I'd say all fo the above. Lexx sucks.
Theoretical Physicists
14-08-2006, 01:47
Voted Star Trek for TNG, Firefly's pretty awesome too.
IDF
14-08-2006, 01:54
DS9!!!

DS9 was an amazing TV show. It is only 2nd to "24" on my list of favorite TV shows. It had everything ranging from massive 1800 ship fleet battles, drama, and comic relief.

Most TV villains are stock characters who have no depth whatsoever. Gul Dukat was possibly the greatest villain I've ever seen on a TV show. He was a 3 dimensional dynamic character. Combining the amazing writing and the acting talents of Mark Alaimo led to a character who could make the viewer feel sympathetic for.

From season 1 through season 5, Dukat could be both a villain and friend depending on the situation. The viewer knew that while he was the Prefect of Bajor, he had murdered millions, but he always seemed to be seeking forgiveness and showing regret for his actions. He had helped Sisko and his crew on many occasions such as during the the Klingon-Federation War. He also would sometimes try to stop Sisko such as when he tried to retake the station in the series premeire.

In season 5, Dukat had made Cardassia a member of the Dominion. He was a great villain as the head of the Carassian Union. When Sisko retook the station, Dukat's daughter was killed. Dukat was taken prisoner and had a mental breakdown. Regardless of his previous actions, the viewers had to feel sympathy for him. That al changed once Dukat had become a deranged lunatic and swore revenge on Bajor. This was the point of no return where Dukat had finally grown into the ultimate villain. This of course led to his pact with the Pah-Wraiths. Dukat became even more hated in Season 6's finale when he killed Dax.

Dukat wasn't the only dynamic character on the show. DS9 was Sisko adjust to his role of Emissary of the Prophets. Odo changed as he searched for the answer to the mystery that was his existance. It turned out Odo was a founder. Worf changed the most. He was nothing but a stock character in TNG. The DS9 writing crew had Worf grow into a much different character who could actually feel emotion.

The Dominion War provided 2 great final seasons for the show. This was on top of many smaller scale conflicts. Despite this fact, DS9 wasn't all action. The writers threw in many episodes which demonstrated character growth or comic relief. The holosuite episoded did a great job of this, as did the episodes revolving around Quark.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=CX_QyQ8ez70
this fan made trailer is great. If they made a Dominion War movie, this is what it would be

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w5FmSmyHaCI
USS Defiant montage (damn that ship rules)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w-9tw2mx_gE
Star Trek invents the pop-up ad in a 1995 episode. I knew the Ferengi were responsible for those.
Andaluciae
14-08-2006, 02:00
BAKULA, BAKULA, BAKULA, BAKULA, BAKULA!

Needless to say, he is a God-figure to many, and folks sacrifice their children to his effigy all the time, all because of...


QUANTUM LEAP!
Thuace
14-08-2006, 02:03
IDF beat me to it....

Oh well, adding on.

Another thing that I like about DS9 is how they seemed to get alot of issues that we have now a few years ago. There was one episode where O'Brien's wife's school class was boycotted by Bajoran Religious Fundamentalists, because she didn't recognize the wormhole aliens as prophets, or teach alot of the stuff that Bajoran religion says the prophets did.

And I second the part about Quark episodes, they rock.
Lunatic Goofballs
14-08-2006, 02:04
Star Trek TNG, DS9 and Voyager. I love em all. Many people knock Voyager, but that's because they haven't seen the wonderful silliness of the 'Bride of Chaotica' eposode. Quantum Leap was awesome.

But I'd also like to mention 'The Tomorrow People' for sheer low budget cheesiness and classic stories.

Who rmembes a series called 'Voyagers!' :)
Dobbsworld
14-08-2006, 02:10
Star Trek TNG, DS9 and Voyager. I love em all. Many people knock Voyager, but that's because they haven't seen the wonderful silliness of the 'Bride of Chaotica' eposode. Quantum Leap was awesome.

But I'd also like to mention 'The Tomorrow People' for sheer low budget cheesiness and classic stories.

Who rmembes a series called 'Voyagers!' :)
One of the few people who I know who remembers The Tomorrow People. I spotted it on DVD last week, but I was already buying seasons 1 & 2 of the classic Outer Limits series. I remember TTP DVD sets seemed kinda pricey, though.

Hey LG - do you remember Otherworld?
IDF
14-08-2006, 02:11
"In the Pale Moonlight" was the best episode on DS9. It showed the Federation had a darker side. Sisko said it best when he said, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." It showed the Federation was far from the utopian world Rodenberry envisioned.
PasturePastry
14-08-2006, 02:13
Who rmembes a series called 'Voyagers!' :)

Oh yeah. Jon-Eric Hexum. Shot himself in the head with a starter's pistol. Kinda stupid and sad. It was an ok show though.
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 02:13
I like all variations of Star Trek.
(in order)
1 The original series
2 Voyager
3 The next gen
4 Enterprise
5 DS9




Stargate is okay when it's 3am and I can't sleep.



Does X-files count? I was pretty addicted to that for a while, I once joked that the only reason I liked Trek better was that when it came time for con, I already had a uniform (okay, I have 3 and yeah, that's not the real reason.....)
Roosterkovia
14-08-2006, 02:14
X-Files!!!!!!!!!
Alleghany County
14-08-2006, 02:15
Babylon 5 and Star Trek Voyager. I voted B5 though because I could only pick one.
Lunatic Goofballs
14-08-2006, 02:16
One of the few people who I know who remembers The Tomorrow People. I spotted it on DVD last week, but I was already buying seasons 1 & 2 of the classic Outer Limits series. I remember TTP DVD sets seemed kinda pricey, though.

Hey LG - do you remember Otherworld?

Very pricey. Especially for the number of episodes.

Yes, I remember Otherworld, but unfortunately, my parents had television control and chose to watch something else. So I've seen only an episode or two. Seemed like a cool premise.
Isselmere
14-08-2006, 02:17
Farscape after it escaped the silliness of some of the first few episodes was one of the great character-driven science fiction shows. Scorpius was the creepiest and cleverest villian on television.

The original Star Trek and Firefly are brilliant for not bothering to stick too closely to the science fiction model, although the former series occasionally fell into campy silliness by the third season. DS9 had the sci-fi credentials as well as a deep political story that most shows lack/lacked.
Liberated New Ireland
14-08-2006, 02:19
ULTRA SNIP!!!.
Thank you for the unnecessary history of that terrible show.

Of the choices on the poll, Doctor Who is the best, and B5 is the only other good one. The new BSG isn't even on there.

Outer Limits (both versions) was also had good Sci-Fi episodes.

Let's face it: SciFi and TV weren't made for each other...
Andaluciae
14-08-2006, 02:20
X-Files!!!!!!!!!
Almost forgot, it's been so many years. Absolutely excellent show, I still love it. Rates up there around Quantum Leap for me. Great show, really great show.
Montacanos
14-08-2006, 02:24
Stargate is my favorite. I've kept up with it loyally since about season 3 (Its in 10) now. I miss O'Neil, but I guess spending time with your daughter is a good enough reason to quit acting. Some of those older Stargate episodes were brilliant. Along the way though, the theme of the show seemed to change from discovering origin (read: meaning of life) to a roster of foes.
TubasInTheMoonlight
14-08-2006, 02:30
The new Battlestar Galactica, for the slowly-falling-further-into-the-grip-of-mental-breakdown Dr. Gaius and the man with the impossibly gravelly voice, Commander Adoma.
Vacuumhead
14-08-2006, 02:32
It has to be Doctor Who. I rarely watch TV and I find most of the other sci-fi programs in the poll to be really dull, but I watched the new series of Doctor Who religiously. It was fantastic! The only other sci-fi series I have enjoyed was Futurama, and that leads to an important question:

Why isn't Futurama on the poll?! :eek:
(although I'm kind of glad, I'm not sure which I'd choose.)
International Terrans
14-08-2006, 02:34
Battlestar Galactica (the new one). It boggles the mind why this wasn't on the poll, and shows like Lexx and Quantum Leap are. Honestly, best show on television period, let alone sci-fi TV.
Dobbsworld
14-08-2006, 02:36
Given the available choices, I'll side with the Doctor.
Brockadia
14-08-2006, 03:12
Battlestar Galactica (the new one). It boggles the mind why this wasn't on the poll, and shows like Lexx and Quantum Leap are. Honestly, best show on television period, let alone sci-fi TV.

Yes, I'm sorry for not including that one. I knew I was forgetting one of the big ones (I've never seen it myself) but couldn't figure out what it was.


As for those knocking DS9: DS9 was far and away the best of any of the Star Trek series. It actually had involved, political plots that weren't just solved with some technobabble or new gizmo, and was the only one to actually bother spending time developing each of its characters.
The Nazz
14-08-2006, 03:19
The new Battlestar Galactica, for the slowly-falling-further-into-the-grip-of-mental-breakdown Dr. Gaius and the man with the impossibly gravelly voice, Commander Adoma.
Seconded--there may not be a better show on tv outside of HBO.
Liberated New Ireland
14-08-2006, 03:21
As for those knocking DS9: DS9 was far and away the best of any of the Star Trek series. It actually had involved, political plots that weren't just solved with some technobabble or new gizmo, and was the only one to actually bother spending time developing each of its characters.
OK, I'll give it credit: It was the best of the STs, but it still was a lame show. The acting was mediocre (though Garik and Sisko had a few good moments), and the plot arc was very predictable... It also lacked Q, which was the best part of the ST universe.
Dobbsworld
14-08-2006, 03:27
DS9 was "conceived" as a stop-gap solution to shoring up Paramount's multi-billion dollar franchise, with strong competition from the very serious sci-fi contender series Babylon Five, which producer Michael J. Straczynski had unsuccessfully pitched for Paramount execs prior to successfully pitching it elsewhere. DS9 existed solely as a means to keep Paramount's thumb in the pudding.

The pacing was slow, the delivery flat and the dialogue so contrived - wooden actors and a gross tendency towards melodramatic continuing stories smacking of primetime-soap-opera-as-Trek as to inspire disinterest and somnambulence in most everyone I knew, adults viewing both DS9 and B5 concurrently. We abandoned it in droves at the time. But what kept DS9 ticking over was their children's demographic.

Twelve-to-fifteen-year-old boys thought Worf was cool. And that's why it kept lurching onward, ever onward...
Gusitania
14-08-2006, 03:53
Red Dwarf (If youll let me count that as sci-fi as opposed to comedy)...if not, heres an obscure one for you: Space: Above and Beyond...didnt last long, but I made it a point to see every episode (which when you consider I didnt own a tv during that time, you can see the effort I had to make) :)
New Stalinberg
14-08-2006, 04:01
Are you guys kidding? I only watch Sci-fi when they're is some terrible yet funny movie on. I.E. SS doomtrooper, Shark attack 3, Frankenfish, and Leeches.

Sci-Fi channel is SO BAD that no one even advertises on it, that's why you see the same commercials over and over and over again.
Alleghany County
14-08-2006, 04:03
Are you guys kidding? I only watch Sci-fi when they're is some terrible yet funny movie on. I.E. SS doomtrooper, Shark attack 3, Frankenfish, and Leeches.

Sci-Fi channel is SO BAD that no one even advertises on it, that's why you see the same commercials over and over and over again.

Ghosthunters is a really good program on the Sci-Fi channel. In fact, their new season is starting up soon.
Layarteb
14-08-2006, 04:04
Stargate was an awesome movie but an almost awesomer TV series. Atlantis is, eh, but SG-1 is great!
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 04:24
DS9 was "conceived" as a stop-gap solution to shoring up Paramount's multi-billion dollar franchise, with strong competition from the very serious sci-fi contender series Babylon Five, which producer Michael J. Straczynski had unsuccessfully pitched for Paramount execs prior to successfully pitching it elsewhere. DS9 existed solely as a means to keep Paramount's thumb in the pudding.

The pacing was slow, the delivery flat and the dialogue so contrived - wooden actors and a gross tendency towards melodramatic continuing stories smacking of primetime-soap-opera-as-Trek as to inspire disinterest and somnambulence in most everyone I knew, adults viewing both DS9 and B5 concurrently. We abandoned it in droves at the time. But what kept DS9 ticking over was their children's demographic.

Twelve-to-fifteen-year-old boys thought Worf was cool. And that's why it kept lurching onward, ever onward...

QFT
Posi
14-08-2006, 04:29
Pancakes
IL Ruffino
14-08-2006, 04:46
What's that new show?

With the secret town; or whatever the fuck?

I quite like that.
Dobbsworld
14-08-2006, 04:48
QFT
I'm ashamed to admit I had to look that one up.
Liberated New Ireland
14-08-2006, 04:56
I'm ashamed to admit I had to look that one up.
Quite fucking true.
Vacuumhead
14-08-2006, 04:57
Red Dwarf (If youll let me count that as sci-fi as opposed to comedy)...if not, heres an obscure one for you: Space: Above and Beyond...didnt last long, but I made it a point to see every episode (which when you consider I didnt own a tv during that time, you can see the effort I had to make) :)
I can't believe I forgot about Red Dwarf, I'm so very ashamed of myself. :(

Is it out on DVD yet?
Dobbsworld
14-08-2006, 04:58
I can't believe I forgot about Red Dwarf, I'm so very ashamed of myself. :(

Is it out on DVD yet?
At an astronomical price, yeah. I'll wait for it to enter the remainder bins, I guess.
Meoworld
14-08-2006, 05:02
Star Trek Voyager. Capt. Janeway is my hero!
German Nightmare
14-08-2006, 06:04
Space: Above and Beyond

That is a show that never could show all it's potential. And it had that certain Wing Commander I+II charm to it.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0112173/

And I'm amazed that you didn't mention BattleStar Galactica (old and new)! http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/forum/images/smilies/cylon6.gif
Neo Undelia
14-08-2006, 06:08
Television is not a good medium for Sci Fi, period. It doesn’t have the budget or the audience.
Thuace
14-08-2006, 06:39
OK, I'll give it credit: It was the best of the STs, but it still was a lame show. The acting was mediocre (though Garik and Sisko had a few good moments), and the plot arc was very predictable... It also lacked Q, which was the best part of the ST universe.

Q was in an early episode of DS9; Q-Less

What's that new show?

With the secret town; or whatever the fuck?

I quite like that.
I believe its called "Eureka" or something like that...
Isselmere
14-08-2006, 07:40
Hmm, thought that was an adaptation of "The Prisoner" or something.
Harlesburg
14-08-2006, 07:51
Stragate!
Er no Babylon 5
Svalbardania
14-08-2006, 09:41
STARGATE!! SG-1 kicks ass! Atlantis not quite as much! But go Stargate! I want season 9! Only 8 is out on dvd! Why can't I vote on the poll?! Why do I keep pressing the "!" key?! I don't know!
Rubiconic Crossings
14-08-2006, 09:55
Space 1999
Blakes 7
Tripods
Day of the Triffids
Gurguvungunit
14-08-2006, 10:01
What's that new show?

With the secret town; or whatever the fuck?

I quite like that.
Yep, it's Eureka. That's a funny one. The show on before it, 'Dead Like Me', doesn't have much of a future at all. Even so, it's clever and funny. But the plot can only go a season, maybe two before it gives up and dies messilly on the floor.

Ahem.

I'm a fan of Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis both, although mostly for the off-the-wall humour that Richard Dean-Anderson provided. Seasons 9 and 10 are... okay. I feel like it should have just ended after season eight, in a way. But then I wouldn't get to watch it do new stuff, so meh. Also, I'm a devoted fan of Baal, who is one of the best villains in sci-fi, up with Scorpius and Gaius Baltar(re-imagined).

Also Battlestar Galactica (new). It's a clever and oddly political show, for one about evil robot aliens and drunken fighter pilots. Kara Thrace=perhaps the coolest character in Sci-Fi. Or maybe Colonel O'Neill. I dunno.

And DS9, well, it's the best of the Star Treks. The others don't even try for character development (well, TNG did some for Picard, Deanna and Data, VOY for Seven, the Doctor and Janeway and TOS... was a '60s show. Enterprise isn't worth mentioning). DS9 gets props for giving all their characters face-time, having some very bizzare plots and a few clever, multifaceted villains. And it gets props for having attractive women with spots.:p
Wiztopia
14-08-2006, 10:08
Television is not a good medium for Sci Fi, period. It doesn’t have the budget or the audience.


While they don't usually have a good budget have you seen Stargate? Both shows have awesome effects. Hahahaha that makes me laugh. Stargate has a huge fan base.

I voted for Stargate.

I can't believe you put Lexx over BSG. Lexx was kinda funny but it sucked.
Isiseye
14-08-2006, 10:45
Star Trek Voyager!


You forgot about Seaquest DSV!
Damor
14-08-2006, 11:16
I enjoy most sorts of sci-fi. But I'd have to say the best was Babylon 5. It was one single 5 year story, put together with care and precision. Most other shows fit together much more loosely, showing that they're develloped as they go.
That's not to say that they aren't enjoyable, but they don't have such an epic feel to them.
Of course Battlestar Galactica still has a good shot at it, we've only seen the first season here. But I'll reserve any judgement of greatness till after it's run its course.

heres an obscure one for you: Space: Above and Beyond...A real shame its life got cut short.
Brukkavenskia
14-08-2006, 11:26
When I was a kid, my auntie was THE Star Trek person of the century to me. She boasted that show from dawn to dusk. But later, I first saw Farscape when I was about 11 and crap I just loved that show!

It was so...I dunno; but there were some episodes that really got me interested. Shame that they cut it a bit short, but i'm fairly cool with it.
Intangelon
14-08-2006, 11:31
Farscape, followed closely by Firefly and the new [/i]Battlestar Galactica[/i].
-Bretonia-
14-08-2006, 11:48
Used to be Farscape, but now that I've seen the new BSG we now know that realism, good writing, quality visuals, epic plots, great acting and great characters CAN in fact exist together in a sci-fi show.
Jacobic
14-08-2006, 12:00
Babylon 5 for me is the best!! Then Battlestar Galactica I liked both the old and new, followed by
Space above and beyond
Firefly
Pure Metal
14-08-2006, 12:04
star trek. by far.

i like em all (i guess in order it'd be VOY, TNG, DS9, TOS) except the new shitty Enterprise one. Voyager is my favourite as there's a strong overarching plotline of explorers lost on a journey home... its simple, but emotive and powerful - something that can be empathised with. TNG and DS9, for the most part, were just collections of individual stories, which is of course still good and i like them, but the continuity and sense of completeness isn't there like with Voyager. DS9, to me, especially feels like little more than a soap-opera in space -only a fraction of the roddenberry-style moral plays that made TNG and even YOY so great and deep were present in DS9 episodes.

DS9 was deep in its characterisation, yes, but i generally find it slow and as i said there less deep. Voyager actually has some great fleshed-out characterisation, especially if you follow it from the start. there's the Doctor who is turned on for the first time in the first episode - he has to grow and learn and find out who he is, exceed his programming, and just ends up a hilarious but strong character with some of the best witty lines i've seen outside of Frasier :P
there's Harry Kim, fresh out the academy on his. first assignment. Tom Paris, paroled from prison and finding his way as a new man, becoming a responsible father. 7 of 9, a borg drone released turned individual again, searching for some meaning in life and what it is to be human. the relationship that grows between her and the Doctor is great imho, as they help each other to find the same thing. even Neelix is an alien thrust into a new world on the ship, finding his way, but with a deep past and history.

i love the way you can follow these 'blank-slate' characters from the beginning and watch as they learn and grow, and you can really feel like you know them. that, to me, is the essense of why i believe voyager to be the best star trek. and i didn't even touch on the marquis-federation issues within the crew, and the way in which the shows can both be dark with one of those moral-play plots going on, but also light and fun (yup, Captain Proton rules :p)


i'll shut up now
Kanabia
14-08-2006, 12:06
Red Dwarf. :mad:
Pure Metal
14-08-2006, 12:06
Space: Above and Beyond

That is a show that never could show all it's potential. And it had that certain Wing Commander I+II charm to it.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0112173/

oh that was great! used to watch that with me dad :)

it was with the Chiggs or something, right? man i'd love to see some of that again (*ponders DVD a'buying*)
Brockadia
14-08-2006, 12:41
While they don't usually have a good budget have you seen Stargate? Both shows have awesome effects. Hahahaha that makes me laugh. Stargate has a huge fan base.

I voted for Stargate.

I can't believe you put Lexx over BSG. Lexx was kinda funny but it sucked.

Like I said, I just didn't remember about BSG, since I myself have never seen it. I would have put it in the poll instead of Lexx though, if I had remembered. I kind of just threw Lexx in because I wanted another option and it was the first one I thought of.

Another one that I liked, that most people probably have never even heard of is Starhunter, though I've only ever seen 2 or 3 episodes of it.
Jeruselem
14-08-2006, 12:47
Dr Who, because I really want a Dalek ...

I like Blake 7 too!
Rubiconic Crossings
14-08-2006, 12:51
Buck Rodgers?

Still surprised no one has picked up on Blakes 7 :p
IL Ruffino
14-08-2006, 12:51
star trek. by far.
;)
Pure Metal
14-08-2006, 12:59
;)
...when i'm actually watching the TV, that is :D



:p
Jeruselem
14-08-2006, 13:01
Buck Rodgers?

Still surprised no one has picked up on Blakes 7 :p

Oddly, the creator of Blake's 7 created the Daleks in Dr Who. :D
Turquoise Days
14-08-2006, 13:03
Red Dwarf. :mad:
FTW!
Bangladeath
14-08-2006, 13:03
"In the Pale Moonlight" was the best episode on DS9. It showed the Federation had a darker side. Sisko said it best when he said, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." It showed the Federation was far from the utopian world Rodenberry envisioned.

My favorite DS9 episode is "Duet."
Isiseye
14-08-2006, 13:37
Anyone remember Sea Quest?
Rubiconic Crossings
14-08-2006, 13:41
Oddly, the creator of Blake's 7 created the Daleks in Dr Who. :D

that I did not know....

The guy who did the dalek voice died a couple of weeks ago :(
German Nightmare
14-08-2006, 14:05
oh that was great! used to watch that with me dad :)

it was with the Chiggs or something, right? man i'd love to see some of that again (*ponders DVD a'buying*)
Oh yeah. One of my favorite one-hour episode of all sci-fi shows is S:AAB "Ray Butts". Nothing beats being sucked into a black hole after crossing the horizon with "I walk the line" blasting out of the stereo. Classic!

It seems there is no DVD available in Germany :(

Nooooooooooooo! http://stuff2do.systs.net/yabbfiles/Smilies/sw_vader.gif
Zaxon
14-08-2006, 14:14
Buck Rodgers?


Bidibidibidibidibidibidibidibidi......
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 14:14
I am soo glad I am not the only super giant Voyager fan, around here that's a crime, the only thing that gets bashed at con more than Wesley Crusher is Voyager :(

(oh, and yeah, I forgot to mention (yet again) that my kids are actually named after Voyager characters :D )
Lunatic Goofballs
14-08-2006, 14:28
I am soo glad I am not the only super giant Voyager fan, around here that's a crime, the only thing that gets bashed at con more than Wesley Crusher is Voyager :(

(oh, and yeah, I forgot to mention (yet again) that my kids are actually named after Voyager characters :D )

I LIKED Voyager! I don't see what the problem with it was!
Huntaer
14-08-2006, 14:34
Star Trek be my favorite.

1) TNG
2) VOY
3) TOS
4) DS9
5) Enterprise

(I think it's an easy say that Enterprise is the least favorite...)

And what of the X-files? That was one of my absolute favorites. Ties with Trek.

And I'd like to see battlestar galactica (new one). From what I've watched on iTunes, it looks cool.
Jeruselem
14-08-2006, 14:38
I am soo glad I am not the only super giant Voyager fan, around here that's a crime, the only thing that gets bashed at con more than Wesley Crusher is Voyager :(

(oh, and yeah, I forgot to mention (yet again) that my kids are actually named after Voyager characters :D )

One big spaced out family? :p
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 14:39
One big spaced out family? :p
yeah, we all go to con together in full uniform too. :p are we nuts? probably.
Jeruselem
14-08-2006, 14:43
yeah, we all go to con together in full uniform too. :p are we nuts? probably.

You'll need to get working phasers to match! :D
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 14:44
You'll need to get working phasers to match! :D
we really do, we have phasers and tricorders, but they just don't do all the cool stuff they do in the show, mostly they just light up (which you know is exactly what they do in the show, but don't tell me that......I might snap)
Jeruselem
14-08-2006, 14:49
we really do, we have phasers and tricorders, but they just don't do all the cool stuff they do in the show, mostly they just light up (which you know is exactly what they do in the show, but don't tell me that......I might snap)

I've watched enough Star Trek, so I'm not going to bother you with those details. I prefer the old series Star Trek.
Alleghany County
14-08-2006, 14:50
Television is not a good medium for Sci Fi, period. It doesn’t have the budget or the audience.

I have a bridge for sale in San Francisco if you truly do believe that.
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 14:52
I've watched enough Star Trek, so I'm not going to bother you with those details. I prefer the old series Star Trek.
it's slightly higher on my list than Voyager, but only because it kicks ass. ;)

I have every episode on DVD (I watched a few yesterday)

I was pregnant during the last season of Voyager and combine hormones with sadness that it was ending and you get a kid named after the captain, then when the second kid came around it seemed almost unfair to name her something not from Voyager.
Alleghany County
14-08-2006, 14:54
I am soo glad I am not the only super giant Voyager fan, around here that's a crime, the only thing that gets bashed at con more than Wesley Crusher is Voyager :(

That is so wrong. I have all seven seasons on DVD. How can they bash it when DS9 deserves the bashing for being dumb and stupid?

(oh, and yeah, I forgot to mention (yet again) that my kids are actually named after Voyager characters :D )

HAHA!
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 14:57
That is so wrong. I have all seven seasons on DVD. How can they bash it when DS9 deserves the bashing for being dumb and stupid?
to be honest I bash DS9 every chance I get, I hated that one, it was crap crap double crap.

When we had cable though my oldest would watch re-runs of it, her big reason for liking it though was Quark, she likes Ferengi
Jeruselem
14-08-2006, 14:57
it's slightly higher on my list than Voyager, but only because it kicks ass. ;)

I have every episode on DVD (I watched a few yesterday)

I was pregnant during the last season of Voyager and combine hormones with sadness that it was ending and you get a kid named after the captain, then when the second kid came around it seemed almost unfair to name her something not from Voyager.

Thank God you didn't use the Borg naming scheme. Two kids - one of two and two of two. :)
Alleghany County
14-08-2006, 14:59
to be honest I bash DS9 every chance I get, I hated that one, it was crap crap double crap.

Yes it was.

When we had cable though my oldest would watch re-runs of it, her big reason for liking it though was Quark, she likes Ferengi

Now I know she's insane. :D
Rubiconic Crossings
14-08-2006, 15:00
Bidibidibidibidibidibidibidibidi......

yeah....hwo irritating was that??? LOL
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 15:00
Thank God you didn't use the Borg naming scheme. Two kids - one of two and two of two. :)
yeah, we still do that though, for them, there are times when I am so stressed out that I can't remember which is which and I yell down the hall for "two of two, get your rear end in here" (which is funny because she is named after 7 of 9)
Pure Metal
14-08-2006, 15:12
I was pregnant during the last season of Voyager and combine hormones with sadness that it was ending and you get a kid named after the captain, then when the second kid came around it seemed almost unfair to name her something not from Voyager.
Tuvok?? :confused: :p
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 19:17
Tuvok?? :confused: :p
uh........no. Although we did consider B'lana and Kim.
Pompous world
14-08-2006, 19:27
next gen, best sci fi ever, incredible acting, brilliant plots and an amazing envisionment of the future.
IDF
14-08-2006, 19:33
DS9 gets props for giving all their characters face-time, having some very bizzare plots and a few clever, multifaceted villains. And it gets props for having attractive women with spots.:p
I think the writers have a spot fetish and then decided to give that quality to Worf and Bashir. Especially Bashir though. I mean didn't he spend the first 3 seasons trying to bang Dax. Worf of course married her. He bangs Ezri and she then ends up with Bashir.
Brockadia
14-08-2006, 22:16
yeah, we still do that though, for them, there are times when I am so stressed out that I can't remember which is which and I yell down the hall for "two of two, get your rear end in here" (which is funny because she is named after 7 of 9)

Is she actually named "Seven", or "Annika?"
Yootopia
14-08-2006, 22:19
Out of the ones other than "other", The Lexx.

But the new Battlestar Gallactica series' are pretty damn good, so they get my vote for sure.
Smunkeeville
14-08-2006, 22:32
Is she actually named "Seven", or "Annika?"
Annika ;)

her sister is learning how to reduce fractions and she thought she would reduce 7/9ths and got mad at me when she couldn't haha
Lerkistan
14-08-2006, 23:38
Star Trek, and among these... I think TNG might be best (if you watch it for the first time ;)), then probably DS9. The first seasons were boring, but it got way better. VOY is the worst. Janeway is just annoying, mainly because of her everchanging moral standards (she has no qualms holding minute-long speeches about how "XY so disappointed her because of his behaviour" and then five minutes (or an episode) later she does worse...). And Tuvok is a disgrace to the Vulcan race. Way too emotional! The Doc is great though :)


Glad to hear there are other people who liked "Space: Above and Beyond". It was so short, I thought I must have been the only one to like it...
Dorstfeld
14-08-2006, 23:39
Blakes 7
Snow Eaters
15-08-2006, 01:01
Here's a list of the "Top 100 Sci Fi" shows, sorry for the formatting. (list follows my post)

From the list in this thread's poll, I'll go with Firefly. It was such a great show with excellent characters right out of the gate, but alas, Fox bungled it and killed it far too soon.

I've never met a Star Trek I didn't like, but I didn't really watch Enterprise. TOS is the original and the best just for starting it all. TNG showed that Sci-Fi TV could have good production values, good writing and good acting, although it took at least 2 years for them to find their grounding.
The rest are all ok or good depending on which setting and cast appealled to you.

I refuse to watch the new Battlestar: Galactica. They castrated Starbuck, unforgiveable.

Not listed in this poll, probably because people tend to think of it as an anthology series and forget it was Sci-Fi is Twilight Zone, one of my all time favourite TV series of any genre.

The top 100 list below lists Lost, I know it has Sci-Fi elements, but really, it's not anything I'd list in Sci-Fi, as much as I enjoy it.










Old Rank Series On-Air # Length Source
1 1 Star Trek - The Next Generation 1987-1994 176 60* synd
3 2 The X-Files 1993-2002 202 60 Fox
4 3 Stargate SG-1 1997-X 205+ 60 Show/SF
2 4 Star Trek (Original Series) 1966-1969 79 60 NBC
5 5 Babylon 5 1993-1999 115 60* syn/TNT
7 6 Star Trek - Deep Space Nine 1993-1999 174 60* synd
10 7 Firefly 2002 15 60 Fox
11 8 Battlestar Galactica (new) 2003-X 35+ 60 SciFi/Sky
9 9 Farscape 1999-2003 88 60 SciFi
6 10 The Twilight Zone 1959-1964 156 30/60 CBS
8 11 Doctor Who 1963-1989 694 30* BBC
12 12 Star Trek - Voyager 1995-2001 171 60* UPN
13 13 Futurama 1999-2003 72 30 Fox
14 14 Lost 2004-X 39+ 60 ABC
17 15 Star Trek - Enterprise 2001-2005 98 60 UPN
18 16 Red Dwarf 1988-1999 52 30 BBC
23 17 Stargate - Atlantis 2004-X 45+ 60 SciFi
16 18 Quantum Leap 1989-1994 95 60* NBC
20 19 Smallville 2001-X 104+ 60 WB
21 20 Battlestar Galactica (original) 1978-1980 34 60* ABC
15 21 The Outer Limits 1963-1966 49 60 ABC
19 22 The Prisoner 1967-1968 17 60 ITV
22 23 V 1984-1985 24 60* NBC
26 24 Sliders 1995-2000 88 60 Fox/SF
25 25 Space 1999 1975-1977 48 60 ITV
24 26 Lost in Space 1965-1968 83 60 CBS
30 27 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 1981 6 35 BBC
31 28 Mystery Science Theater 3000 1988-1999 197 90 Com/SF
33 29 Dark Angel 2000-2002 43 60 Fox
27 30 Blake's 7 1978-1981 52 60 BBC
28 31 The Man From U.N.C.L.E. 1964-1968 105 60 NBC
29 32 The Avengers (with Emma Peel) 1965-1967 50 60 ITV
37 33 Doctor Who (2005) 2005-X 29+ 45 BBC
32 34 Space - Above and Beyond 1995 22 60 Fox
35 35 Andromeda 2000-2005 110 60 synd
38 36 The Six Million Dollar Man 1973-1978 100 60* ABC
40 37 Lois & Clark (New Superman) 1993-1997 88 60 ABC
34 38 Alien Nation 1989-1990 21 60* Fox
39 39 Third Rock From the Sun 1996-2001 139 30 NBC
36 40 UFO 1970-1971 26 60 ITV
46 41 Buck Rogers in the 25th Century 1979-1981 33 60* NBC
47 42 The 4400 2004-X 18+ 60 USA
41 43 Roswell 1999-2002 61 60 WB/UPN
42 44 Thunderbirds 1965-1966 32 60 ATV
44 45 The Wild, Wild West 1965-1969 104 60 CBS
48 46 seaQuest DSV (& 2032) 1993-1995 53 60 NBC
43 47 Batman 1966-1968 120 30 ABC
45 48 Max Headroom - The Series 1987-1988 14 60* ABC
50 49 Lexx 1997-2002 61 90/60 synd/SF
51 50 Kolchak - The Night Stalker 1974-1975 20 60 ABC
59 51 Alias 2001-X 99+ 60 ABC
75 52 Dune (2000) 2000 3 120 SciFi
60 53 ALF 1986-1990 102 30 NBC
49 54 Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea 1964-1968 110 60 ABC
62 55 The Outer Limits (new) 1995-2002 154 60 Show/SF
53 56 Time Tunnel 1966-1967 30 60 ABC
77 57 Cowboy Bebop 1998 26 30 TV Tokyo
52 58 Crusade 1999 13 60 TNT
55 59 The Jetsons 1962-1963 24 30 ABC
61 60 Wonder Woman 1974-1979 57 60 ABC/CBS
58 61 Logan's Run 1977-1978 13 60 CBS
56 62 The (New) Twilight Zone 1985-1987 36 60/30 CBS/syn
54 63 Sapphire and Steel 1979-1982 34 30 ATV
57 64 The Adventures of Superman 1953-1957 104 30 ABC
76 65 Get Smart 1965-1969 138 30 NBC/CBS
63 66 Millennium 1996-1999 67 60 Fox
66 67 Earth 2 1994-1995 22 60/P NBC
68 68 The Incredible Hulk 1977-1982 79 60 CBS
74 69 Adventures of Brisco County Jr 1993-1994 27 60/P Fox
72 70 Mork and Mindy 1978-1982 92 30* ABC
67 71 Amazing Stories 1985-1987 43 30* NBC
64 72 Earth - Final Conflict 1997-2002 110 60 synd
70 73 The Bionic Woman 1976-1978 57 60 ABC/NBC
73 74 Planet of the Apes 1974 14 60 CBS
69 75 Land of the Giants 1968-1970 51 60 ABC
84 76 Ghost in the Shell: SAC 2002-04 52 30 Prod IG
82 77 Neon Genesis Evangelion 1995-96 26 30 Gainax
65 78 The Invaders 1967-1968 43 60 ABC
80 79 The Greatest American Hero 1981-1983 44 60 ABC
78 80 War of the Worlds 1988-90 41 60 synd
89 81 The Invisible Man 2000-2002 46 50 SciFi
91 82 Æon Flux 1991-1995 16 30* MTV
90 83 Taken 2002 10 120 SciFi
71 84 My Favorite Martian 1963-1966 107 30 CBS
88 85 Star Trek (Animated Series) 1973-1974 22 30 NBC
–– 86 7 Days 1998-2001 66 60 UPN
81 87 Dark Skies 1996-1997 19 60 NBC
79 88 The Invisible Man 1975 P/13 60* NBC
85 89 The Tripods 1984-1985 25 30 BBC
94 90 Jeremiah 2002-2004 34 50 Show
95 91 Astroboy 1963-66 104 30 Fuji
86 92 VR.5 1995 13 60/120 Fox
–– 93 The Lone Gunmen 2001 13 60 Fox
87 94 Captain Scarlet & the Mysterons 1968 32 30 ITV
83 95 Science Fiction Theatre 1955-1957 78 30 synd
–– 96 Airwolf 1984-87 80 60 CBS
–– 97 The Flash 1990-1991 22 60 CBS
92 98 Eerie, Indiana 1991 19 30 NBC
96 99 Fireball XL5 1962-63 39 30 ITV
–– 100 Time Trax 1993-1994 44 60 synd
Brockadia
15-08-2006, 01:49
Okay, I knew Starhunter was obscure, but not even in the top 100? Come on!
JuNii
15-08-2006, 02:12
Global Frequency

Probe

Spy Games
JuNii
15-08-2006, 02:19
Old Rank Series On-Air # Length Source
1 1 Star Trek - The Next Generation 1987-1994 176 60* synd
3 2 The X-Files 1993-2002 202 60 Fox
4 3 Stargate SG-1 1997-X 205+ 60 Show/SF
2 4 Star Trek (Original Series) 1966-1969 79 60 NBC
5 5 Babylon 5 1993-1999 115 60* syn/TNT
7 6 Star Trek - Deep Space Nine 1993-1999 174 60* synd
10 7 Firefly 2002 15 60 Fox
11 8 Battlestar Galactica (new) 2003-X 35+ 60 SciFi/Sky
9 9 Farscape 1999-2003 88 60 SciFi
6 10 The Twilight Zone 1959-1964 156 30/60 CBS
8 11 Doctor Who 1963-1989 694 30* BBC
12 12 Star Trek - Voyager 1995-2001 171 60* UPN
13 13 Futurama 1999-2003 72 30 Fox
14 14 Lost 2004-X 39+ 60 ABC
17 15 Star Trek - Enterprise 2001-2005 98 60 UPN
18 16 Red Dwarf 1988-1999 52 30 BBC
23 17 Stargate - Atlantis 2004-X 45+ 60 SciFi
16 18 Quantum Leap 1989-1994 95 60* NBC
20 19 Smallville 2001-X 104+ 60 WB
21 20 Battlestar Galactica (original) 1978-1980 34 60* ABC
15 21 The Outer Limits 1963-1966 49 60 ABC
19 22 The Prisoner 1967-1968 17 60 ITV
22 23 V 1984-1985 24 60* NBC
26 24 Sliders 1995-2000 88 60 Fox/SF
25 25 Space 1999 1975-1977 48 60 ITV
24 26 Lost in Space 1965-1968 83 60 CBS
30 27 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 1981 6 35 BBC
31 28 Mystery Science Theater 3000 1988-1999 197 90 Com/SF
33 29 Dark Angel 2000-2002 43 60 Fox
27 30 Blake's 7 1978-1981 52 60 BBC
28 31 The Man From U.N.C.L.E. 1964-1968 105 60 NBC
29 32 The Avengers (with Emma Peel) 1965-1967 50 60 ITV
37 33 Doctor Who (2005) 2005-X 29+ 45 BBC
32 34 Space - Above and Beyond 1995 22 60 Fox
35 35 Andromeda 2000-2005 110 60 synd
38 36 The Six Million Dollar Man 1973-1978 100 60* ABC
40 37 Lois & Clark (New Superman) 1993-1997 88 60 ABC
34 38 Alien Nation 1989-1990 21 60* Fox
39 39 Third Rock From the Sun 1996-2001 139 30 NBC
36 40 UFO 1970-1971 26 60 ITV
46 41 Buck Rogers in the 25th Century 1979-1981 33 60* NBC
47 42 The 4400 2004-X 18+ 60 USA
41 43 Roswell 1999-2002 61 60 WB/UPN
42 44 Thunderbirds 1965-1966 32 60 ATV
44 45 The Wild, Wild West 1965-1969 104 60 CBS
48 46 seaQuest DSV (& 2032) 1993-1995 53 60 NBC
43 47 Batman 1966-1968 120 30 ABC
45 48 Max Headroom - The Series 1987-1988 14 60* ABC
50 49 Lexx 1997-2002 61 90/60 synd/SF
51 50 Kolchak - The Night Stalker 1974-1975 20 60 ABC
59 51 Alias 2001-X 99+ 60 ABC
75 52 Dune (2000) 2000 3 120 SciFi
60 53 ALF 1986-1990 102 30 NBC
49 54 Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea 1964-1968 110 60 ABC
62 55 The Outer Limits (new) 1995-2002 154 60 Show/SF
53 56 Time Tunnel 1966-1967 30 60 ABC
77 57 Cowboy Bebop 1998 26 30 TV Tokyo
52 58 Crusade 1999 13 60 TNT
55 59 The Jetsons 1962-1963 24 30 ABC
61 60 Wonder Woman 1974-1979 57 60 ABC/CBS
58 61 Logan's Run 1977-1978 13 60 CBS
56 62 The (New) Twilight Zone 1985-1987 36 60/30 CBS/syn
54 63 Sapphire and Steel 1979-1982 34 30 ATV
57 64 The Adventures of Superman 1953-1957 104 30 ABC
76 65 Get Smart 1965-1969 138 30 NBC/CBS
63 66 Millennium 1996-1999 67 60 Fox
66 67 Earth 2 1994-1995 22 60/P NBC
68 68 The Incredible Hulk 1977-1982 79 60 CBS
74 69 Adventures of Brisco County Jr 1993-1994 27 60/P Fox
72 70 Mork and Mindy 1978-1982 92 30* ABC
67 71 Amazing Stories 1985-1987 43 30* NBC
64 72 Earth - Final Conflict 1997-2002 110 60 synd
70 73 The Bionic Woman 1976-1978 57 60 ABC/NBC
73 74 Planet of the Apes 1974 14 60 CBS
69 75 Land of the Giants 1968-1970 51 60 ABC
84 76 Ghost in the Shell: SAC 2002-04 52 30 Prod IG
82 77 Neon Genesis Evangelion 1995-96 26 30 Gainax
65 78 The Invaders 1967-1968 43 60 ABC
80 79 The Greatest American Hero 1981-1983 44 60 ABC
78 80 War of the Worlds 1988-90 41 60 synd
89 81 The Invisible Man 2000-2002 46 50 SciFi
91 82 Æon Flux 1991-1995 16 30* MTV
90 83 Taken 2002 10 120 SciFi
71 84 My Favorite Martian 1963-1966 107 30 CBS
88 85 Star Trek (Animated Series) 1973-1974 22 30 NBC
–– 86 7 Days 1998-2001 66 60 UPN
81 87 Dark Skies 1996-1997 19 60 NBC
79 88 The Invisible Man 1975 P/13 60* NBC
85 89 The Tripods 1984-1985 25 30 BBC
94 90 Jeremiah 2002-2004 34 50 Show
95 91 Astroboy 1963-66 104 30 Fuji
86 92 VR.5 1995 13 60/120 Fox
–– 93 The Lone Gunmen 2001 13 60 Fox
87 94 Captain Scarlet & the Mysterons 1968 32 30 ITV
83 95 Science Fiction Theatre 1955-1957 78 30 synd
–– 96 Airwolf 1984-87 80 60 CBS
–– 97 The Flash 1990-1991 22 60 CBS
92 98 Eerie, Indiana 1991 19 30 NBC
96 99 Fireball XL5 1962-63 39 30 ITV
–– 100 Time Trax 1993-1994 44 60 syndBolded are the ones I saw...


and I'm kinda upset that Jake 2.0 isn't on there...
Megaloria
15-08-2006, 02:24
I'll give you a hint. It involves robots. And vehicles. And they're the same things.
Harlesburg
15-08-2006, 12:30
Yeah Quantum Leap was cool really opened my eyes.
I was at work and realised, man i forgot about Doctor Who.:(
Transformers too:p
Taredas
15-08-2006, 22:28
Babylon 5 gets my vote, with Stargate SG-1 a very close second. Stargate SG-1 actually has had better episodes than Babylon 5 did (sorry, B5, but "Window of Opportunity" beats "Severed Dreams" hands down), but Babylon 5 had a more interesting story arc and consistently good episodes.

Sadly, Babylon 5 is all but dead, since Legend of the Rangers never turned into a Babylon 5 spinoff, and Stargate SG-1 probably jumped the shark after Richard Dean Anderson left the show.

I'm also a fan of Stargate Atlantis (though they were also much better while they still had Lieutenant Ford as a character), The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (though it was better in book form), and Doctor Who. Eureka (the new Sci-Fi show) shows great potential, but it's too early to add it to the favorites list just yet.

Battlestar Galactica lacks humor, so I've stopped watching it for the moment.
JuNii
15-08-2006, 22:32
I'll give you a hint. It involves robots. And vehicles. And they're the same things.
Raideen?

no wait... Robotech!
Kazcaper
15-08-2006, 22:32
Unquestionably Babylon 5. It's not just my favourite ever sci-fi series, it's my favourite ever series. It's got a perfect, epic mix of drama, intellect, politics, humour, dialogue and plot. I love love love it.
Alleghany County
15-08-2006, 22:35
Babylon 5 gets my vote, with Stargate SG-1 a very close second. Stargate SG-1 actually has had better episodes than Babylon 5 did (sorry, B5, but "Window of Opportunity" beats "Shattered Dreams" hands down), but Babylon 5 had a more interesting story arc and consistently good episodes.

Episode 310 was called SEVERED DREAMS!!! There was not "Shattered Dreams" episode of Babylon 5.
Rejistania
15-08-2006, 22:40
Raumschiff Orion!
Taredas
16-08-2006, 03:12
Episode 310 was called SEVERED DREAMS!!! There was not "Shattered Dreams" episode of Babylon 5.

Crud, I couldn't remember which one was right and I didn't have time to use Wikipedia. Edited!
The Jovian Moons
16-08-2006, 03:15
Stargate SG-1. Not Atlantis though.
Alleghany County
16-08-2006, 04:08
Crud, I couldn't remember which one was right and I didn't have time to use Wikipedia. Edited!

HAHA! I have all five seasons on DVD plus their website bookmarked. :p