NationStates Jolt Archive


Favourite War

Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 22:38
Self explanatory really, except I only include recent wars.
Im not too sure but i have to say WW2
Hydesland
13-08-2006, 22:39
War is not something to be favoured son...

but yeah world war 2 is my fave too :p
Call to power
13-08-2006, 22:41
WWI FTW (despite popular belief WWII was crap and just a cheap German copy at that)
The Nazz
13-08-2006, 22:42
My favorite is the one that doesn't happen, like, for instance, the one avoided during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Laerod
13-08-2006, 22:42
Self explanatory really, except I only include recent wars.
Im not too sure but i have to say WW2The third one and the last one are wars in name only; they don't really count.
Call to power
13-08-2006, 22:43
My favorite is the one that doesn't happen, like, for instance, the one avoided during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

a war in which everyone wins!
Dorstfeld
13-08-2006, 22:45
My favorite is the one that doesn't happen, like, for instance, the one avoided during the Cuban Missile Crisis.


Was about to say the same; beaten to it.
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 22:46
Fine then, wars AND "Conflicts"
btw im counting vietnam, the malayan emergency, afghanistan, suez crisis, and all the other minor Commy VS NATO incidents as the Cold War.
Tactical Grace
13-08-2006, 22:46
The Falklands were a great illustration of what happens when you take on an equivalent-technology entity in a confined coastal area. Lest anyone get any ideas about invading Iran and the whole thing collapsing.
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 22:48
About the falklands, i'm pretty sure the UK just took a while to get there, THEN they kicked argy ass
Tactical Grace
13-08-2006, 22:54
About the falklands, i'm pretty sure the UK just took a while to get there, THEN they kicked argy ass
Losing a bunch of ships and aircraft, and having half their fleet with bomb and missile damage along the way. In terms of losses, considering the relatively small size of the war, the UK sustained massive losses.
Frutap
13-08-2006, 22:54
War sucks
But WWII was my favorite to study
Laerod
13-08-2006, 22:55
Fine then, wars AND "Conflicts"
btw im counting vietnam, the malayan emergency, afghanistan, suez crisis, and all the other minor Commy VS NATO incidents as the Cold War.
NATO participated in Afghanistan?

In that case, I'll vote for the War on Drugs.
Dorstfeld
13-08-2006, 22:57
In that case, I'll vote for the War on Drugs.

How about war on poverty?

I'll vote Star Wars.
Wallonochia
13-08-2006, 22:58
Best war ever.

The Toledo War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War)
Call to power
13-08-2006, 22:59
Losing a bunch of ships and aircraft, and having half their fleet with bomb and missile damage along the way. In terms of losses, considering the relatively small size of the war, the UK sustained massive losses.

well the Argentineans hardly had a pick nick (and it showed how the RMC and Para’s kick ass)
Philosopy
13-08-2006, 22:59
Any war that didn't happen.
Belmount
13-08-2006, 23:02
The best war was the war against wars.
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 23:02
Losses in the falklands were inconsequential, i mean we did survive WWI, II, the depression and that plague (spanish flu i think) and only lost our colonies which were until recently still giving the same economic benefit through the commonwealth.

Admittedly, the falklands cud have been solved easily by dropping a nuke in the atlantic, just in veiw of the argentinian capitol as a warning shot.

One more thing, I beleive the Arg. regime collapsed after the war.
Neo Undelia
13-08-2006, 23:06
Wars are the result of fundamental failures in diplomacy. Why favor a failure?
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 23:08
What was the war against wars/
The Nazz
13-08-2006, 23:09
What was the war against wars/
Obviously one that didn't work.
Neo Undelia
13-08-2006, 23:12
Obviously one that didn't work.
Zing!
Montacanos
13-08-2006, 23:16
None of the above, my favourite war to study is the American civil war. Actually I prefer civil wars in general, they tend to be far more dramatic as well as more radical in terms of what could happen.

edited to add:

Oh "current". well, I think WWII then.
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 23:18
"Wars are the result of fundamental failures in diplomacy. Why favor a failure?"

War and politics are the means through which we gain the power to establish law and order.

Alternatively, i am just a raving fundamentalist neo-nazi, in which case i doubt i could persuade you to my viewpoint (vice-versa). The implications of this are that you are petty enough to try, and that if we ever met, words would get harsh and ultimately end up in violence (thus a failure in diplomacy).
Montacanos
13-08-2006, 23:20
fundamentalist neo-nazi

Not to nitpick, but arent the words "Fundamentalist" and "Neo" contradictory?
Tactical Grace
13-08-2006, 23:21
well the Argentineans hardly had a pick nick (and it showed how the RMC and Para’s kick ass)
Professional volunteers vs reasonably trained and equipped conscripts in prepared defensive positions - kill ratio brought down to 4:1 at best. Compare to the 40:1 usually clocked up by Western forces against irregular militia.

Neither side had a good month, but that war continues to inform the debate when it comes to contemplating taking on regular armies on equal terms. The West can knock over tribespeople and militas in Somalia, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ivory Coast, etc, but the Falklands and the fighting in Lebanon just go to show that when your enemies have the same equipment, numbers and training, the going is going to be ten times as difficult, and that whole new level will be expressed with bodies. That's one of the reasons no-one was eager to go into Serbia as winter was approaching back in 1999, without a withdrawal negotiated beforehand. Fighting an army with 7 years of all-terrain combat experience on their home territory with green soldiers wasn't worth the losses, even with victory an inevitability.

That's why a war with Iran is a non-starter, half the West's expeditionary capability is tied up in Afghanistan and Iraq, and entering Iran probably means losing as many as a hundred men a day. You have to have in your population at home, a whole new mindset to tolerate a dropping of the kill ratio to that extent in the enemy's favour.

Add to that the fact that the Falklands are the one and only practical experiment in large-scale naval operations in coastal waters without a monopoly of force - the losses of the RN, the manner in which some were inflicted, and the performance on anti-ship missiles against modern warships - that is the textbook that is going to be read by anyone contemplating having naval forces in the Gulf while attacking Iran. And the lessons for shore-based anti-ship defence are clear. It certainly won't be pretty.
Nadkor
13-08-2006, 23:22
Not to nitpick, but arent the words "Fundamentalist" and "Neo" contradictory?

Nope.

Not in that context, anyway.
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 23:22
Touche, but they sound really bad
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 23:31
Speaking of vietnam, i remember once trying to persuade some girl (while i was drunk) that i served in the Nam, just south of poon-tang. I was (and still am) only 15.

"but youre too young"
"far too young" *i sigh and try to forget the trauma...*
JiangGuo
13-08-2006, 23:45
How can you forget the Korean War?!

The gurerilla army of a one-year old nation (The People's Republic of China) took on the might of the largest and technologically-advanced military in the world (that being the United States military). The fact they effected a stalemate was nothing short of amazing.
Neo Undelia
13-08-2006, 23:45
War and politics are the means through which we gain the power to establish law and order.

Alternatively, i am just a raving fundamentalist neo-nazi, in which case i doubt i could persuade you to my viewpoint (vice-versa). The implications of this are that you are petty enough to try, and that if we ever met, words would get harsh and ultimately end up in violence (thus a failure in diplomacy).
What?
Virtus Immortalis
13-08-2006, 23:49
Whats there to say what about?

btw Korea counts as the cold war (commies vs Nato)
Pyotr
13-08-2006, 23:56
What about the Barbary wars? they had
PIRATES!
Kapsilan
14-08-2006, 00:21
How can you forget the Korean War?!

The gurerilla army of a one-year old nation (The People's Republic of China) took on the might of the largest and technologically-advanced military in the world (that being the United States military). The fact they effected a stalemate was nothing short of amazing.
They couldn't call it the "forgotten war" if anyone remembers it.
Barbaric Tribes
14-08-2006, 00:21
Speaking of vietnam, i remember once trying to persuade some girl (while i was drunk) that i served in the Nam, just south of poon-tang. I was (and still am) only 15.

"but youre too young"
"far too young" *i sigh and try to forget the trauma...*


Dude, Me and you go somethin in common....it almost worked for me, but not quite...so then I said It was in a past life...and It came close...hehe
Swilatia
14-08-2006, 00:23
thwe one in the original star wars movies.
Barbaric Tribes
14-08-2006, 00:25
World war two is the best war because it had everything. There will never be a war that extreme ever again either. But mostly because the dumbass Nazi's got the living shit whooped out of them. It was probably the only time in the worlds history in which Nations actually helped eachother for the sake of doing good instead of just they're own selfish intrests. And even though the allies did not know about the holocaust when the war began, when they found out they did the right thing by punnishing the Nazis and helping the ravaged people's of Europe.
Ifreann
14-08-2006, 00:25
The War of the Ring.
Laerod
14-08-2006, 00:39
"Wars are the result of fundamental failures in diplomacy. Why favor a failure?"

War and politics are the means through which we gain the power to establish law and order.

Alternatively, i am just a raving fundamentalist neo-nazi, in which case i doubt i could persuade you to my viewpoint (vice-versa). The implications of this are that you are petty enough to try, and that if we ever met, words would get harsh and ultimately end up in violence (thus a failure in diplomacy).
Oh, boy. A fifteen year old fundamentalist neo-nazi...
The last time I engaged in a "fight" with someone six or more years younger than me he was scared shitless because his punches didn't seem to have any effect. He then got the assault charges, not me, since I didn't resort to blows. I suggest you learn to get along with your fellow man for your own sake.
Laerod
14-08-2006, 00:45
Whats there to say what about?

btw Korea counts as the cold war (commies vs Nato)NATO didn't participate in that conflict. Some NATO members did, but they did so under the UN, though a lot of people are loathe to admit that.
Call to power
14-08-2006, 00:56
SNIP

almost every country entered WWII because of there own interests the exceptions (Britain and France) entered because we had to.

that being said WWII was just a continuation of WWI and a poor imitation of that WWI had all of the parts WWII had (apart from concentration camps but they had little to do with the war)

And the affect of WWI are still being felt all around the world to this day
Anti-Social Darwinism
14-08-2006, 01:07
The war on poverty. It's pointless, it's not working, it never will work, but the purpose is honorable and nobody gets shot.
Mercury God
14-08-2006, 01:11
WWIII is my fav (mainly because I can witness it first hand)
Curious Inquiry
14-08-2006, 01:54
WWI had the coolest planes . . .
Homieville
14-08-2006, 13:41
Self explanatory really, except I only include recent wars.
Im not too sure but i have to say WW2

Your a Fagg. And learn how to spell Favorite... War makes no sense. You have to be a idiot to ask a question like that...
Sochatopia
14-08-2006, 14:28
I think the whole poll is kind of bad weres the american civl war or revilutioary war or the war of 1812 The spanish american war mexican american war and thats just form the united states
Sochatopia
14-08-2006, 14:33
almost every country entered WWII because of there own interests the exceptions (Britain and France) entered because we had to.

that being said WWII was just a continuation of WWI and a poor imitation of that WWI had all of the parts WWII had (apart from concentration camps but they had little to do with the war)

And the affect of WWI are still being felt all around the world to this day


Lies poland didnt have a choice brittion and france choose to declare war on hitler. If WW2 was a continuation of WW1 then WW1 was a continuation of the Franko prussan war and after it WW2 was part of the cold war beacuse its out come drictly led to it. You can make the argument but to me they are diffrent wars.
Meath Street
14-08-2006, 15:27
My favorite is the one that doesn't happen, like, for instance, the one avoided during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Well said! "Favourite war"? That's just perverse.

Anyway I put War of Independence down. No bias there. ;)
Trotskylvania
15-08-2006, 00:42
Talking about your "favorite" war is a bit like talking about your favorite reason to go to the Dentist. You "favor" the way/reason that hurts the least.
Yootopia
15-08-2006, 01:01
a war in which everyone wins!
You can no more win a war than you can win a volcano.

There. I have changed a quote so that some day it'll be attributed to me.
[NS:]The Akademeia
15-08-2006, 01:04
Battle of Thermopylae, Battle of Marathon, The Peloponnesian War, and WWII where the 4 most important wars to all of us that live in this Western Tradition...or better yet...all of us that enjoy playing this game on a Computer developed through science and technology.
DHomme
15-08-2006, 01:59
Why isn't the october revolution on the list?

*is mightily pissed off*
Megaloria
15-08-2006, 02:37
The War Within.
http://www.decepticon-matrix.com/dw_ww_v1_tpb.jpg
Harlesburg
15-08-2006, 12:37
The War of 'Some guys ear'
Dutch chopped a English sailors ear off an they went to war over it.

My real fav is World War Two, thoroughly interested in it.
Omstia
15-08-2006, 15:12
Best war is the 30 years war. The 'defenestration of Prague'. Thats a horrible thing to do to a man:D
Monkeypimp
15-08-2006, 15:14
The war on drugs.



Pure comedy value.
Vespertilia
16-08-2006, 02:09
How can you forget the Korean War?!

The gurerilla army of a one-year old nation (The People's Republic of China) took on the might of the largest and technologically-advanced military in the world (that being the United States military). The fact they effected a stalemate was nothing short of amazing.

Guerilla army of one or two millions of "volunteers";)
And I'm not sure if US Army was so advanced at that time.

Your a Fagg. And learn how to spell Favorite...

Spelled correctly. At least not in US English:p
Not bad
16-08-2006, 02:26
The war on drugs.



Pure comedy value.

The war of the sexes is plenty popcorn worthy too.
RockTheCasbah
16-08-2006, 02:42
I don't think "favorite" is the right word to use when talking about war. Interesting is the word you're looking for. Anyway, I think the best war movies are about Vietnam, and I've always found the time period fascinating.
The Jovian Moons
16-08-2006, 03:16
you forgot Korea. Poor Korea... the forgotten war...
Posi
16-08-2006, 04:33
War on Christmas!!!
Harlesburg
16-08-2006, 07:08
The American Civil War and 30 Years War are favs of mine also.
Harlesburg
16-08-2006, 07:09
you forgot Korea. Poor Korea... the forgotten war...
No that is Mark Waugh!
he he he...
Afghanistan actually.:)
JuNii
16-08-2006, 07:22
I'll vote Star Wars.This gets my vote.

tho War of the Worlds, (original) was also great.
Svipdag
16-08-2006, 07:30
The war vs. Canada and Maine/America :D

Ok, but more seriously, the Irish war of Independence, but that'd be the Irish part speaking out :)
Bul-Katho
16-08-2006, 07:43
"The battle at Fimreite" is a well-known event in Norwegian history. In the year of 1184, Sverre Sigurdsson and Magnus Erlingsson bashed together in the fjord here in Sogndal. Magnus fell in battle, Sverre became sovereign king and the people of Sogndal lost their village to Sverre’s flames.

Then, who is Arntor? King Sverre claimed higher taxes just before Christmas 1183 from the villagers and they were furious. They gathered up, with Arntor of course, and went to the kings’ men that were stationed here to guard the region. Priests, "dukes", and servants celebrated Christmas as happy as they could in the name of the lord. The tables were covered with fine food and good drinks. The crowd asked to be spared in this conflict, but they were all slayed to death.

Sverre were furious after this event. He went straight towards Sogn with his army. The village would burn and the guilty ones executed. At that time Magnus heard Sverre were on his way and saw an opportunity to kill him. He gathered his army and sailed inwards the Sognefjord. Well, we all know how that ended…

Sverre burnt down the village. They say Arntor fought and fell with Magnus at Fimreite, but none know for sure. All we know is that he died during the conflict. Sverre confiscated Arntors’ farm Kvåle and stated his new men there. Kvåle were the richest farm in the village, so the consequences were enormous.
Anglachel and Anguirel
16-08-2006, 07:47
War on Terror, because it's so utterly preposterous.
Laerod
16-08-2006, 08:36
This gets my vote.

tho War of the Worlds, (original) was also great.The movie or the book... (just because 1900 isn't all that "recent" :p)
DesignatedMarksman
16-08-2006, 08:42
War sucks.

Can't say I have a favorite war, as they all suck, but if I'm going to pick one I dislike the least, The Global War on Terror (Alqaeda).

:D
DesignatedMarksman
16-08-2006, 08:44
a war in which everyone wins!

Free cake?
Harlesburg
16-08-2006, 09:14
Best war is the 3 years war. The 'defenestration of Prague'. Thats a horrible thing to do to a man:D
They fell on a pile of do do!:p