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Oh. My. God.

My jaw actually dropped when I read this, so it's safe to say I found this a bit vulgar/offensive.

I'm a man tho, so mebby it's actually alright...

linky linky (http://www.wigantoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=66&ArticleID=1458843)


note: I'm not from Wigan.

Lol.

I can see the point of wanting some distraction maybe, but hello - do I really want George Clooney looking down on me lying there like that? o.O :p

And frigging Jesse Metcalfe? That would just make me want to keep my legs closed for good. *shudder*

Its not just celebrities tho
"The collage also features pictures of idyllic tropical beach scenes, dolphins and puppies."

Its not just celebrities tho
"The collage also features pictures of idyllic tropical beach scenes, dolphins and puppies."
True. Why don't they just put a TV up there? Or a good book, with really big print?

True. Why don't they just put a TV up there? Or a good book, with really big print?

I guess they're too cheap, this is the NHS after all.

How heteronormative.

They should make a three-sided revolving fixture with men on one side, women on the other, and on the third a mix of men and women.

Let's be fair in the ogling.

How heteronormative.

They should make a three-sided revolving fixture with men on one side, women one the other, and on the third a mix of men and women.

Let's be fair in the ogling.
:rolleyes: :p
Ohhh Myyy Goood....

True. Why don't they just put a TV up there? Or a good book, with really big print?
An Ebook in size 20 font scrolling slowly across the ceiling...:)

And frigging Jesse Metcalfe? That would just make me want to keep my legs closed for good. *shudder*

*psst* Your lack of taste in men is showing again.

:rolleyes: :p
Ohhh Myyy Goood....

Not all women are heterosexual, and it's bad enough having to go to the gyno without having to be subjected to a projection of heterosexism.

*psst* Your lack of taste in men is showing again.
Oh my God, you just made me laugh out so loud I may have woken up my neighbors. *can't stop giggling*
Honestly, Jesse Fucking Metcalfe??!!?? Not even you I would have thought had bad enough taste for that.
Fucking hilarious. :D

Not all women are heterosexual, and it's bad enough having to go to the gyno without having to be subjected to a projection of heterosexism.
That's actually true. *still giggling about Jesse, but when you're right, you're right*

How heteronormative.

They should make a three-sided revolving fixture with men on one side, women on the other, and on the third a mix of men and women.

Let's be fair in the ogling.
Because as we all know, only 33.3% of women are straight. :rolleyes:

Not all women are heterosexual, and it's bad enough having to go to the gyno without having to be subjected to a projection of heterosexism.
TRUTH

Because as we all know, only 33.3% of women are straight. :rolleyes:
I think you misunderstood that a bit. :p

Oh my God, you just made me laugh out so loud I may have woken up my neighbors. *can't stop giggling*
Honestly, Jesse Fucking Metcalfe??!!?? Not even you I would have thought had bad enough taste for that.
Fucking hilarious. :D

http://renaseveados.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/dhw1.JPG

Bitch, please. The pic speaks for itself.

Because as we all know, only 33.3% of women are straight. :rolleyes:

Do you understand what "revolving" means?

http://renaseveados.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/dhw1.JPG

Bitch, please. The pic speaks for itself.
Yes, yes, it does. *helplessly laughing again*:p

Man, if I had to choose between the two, I'd rather do Eva Longoria, and that's saying a lot, seeing how she's almost as plastic-y as he is.

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Originally Posted by Whereyouthinkyougoing
Oh my God, you just made me laugh out so loud I may have woken up my neighbors. *can't stop giggling*
Honestly, Jesse Fucking Metcalfe??!!?? Not even you I would have thought had bad enough taste for that.
Fucking hilarious.


http://renaseveados.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/dhw1.JPG

Bitch, please. The pic speaks for itself.
I have to agree with WYTYG here. Of course I may be biased.:)

http://renaseveados.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/dhw1.JPG

Bitch, please. The pic speaks for itself.Goddamn he's hot!!!

I have to agree with WYTYG here. Of course I may be biased.:)
No, no, you're not biased.You just have a semblance of good taste, something our Swedish friend is tragically lacking. :fluffle:

Yes, yes, it does. *helplessly laughing again*:p

Man, if I had to choose between the two, I'd rather do Eva Longoria, and that's saying a lot, seeing how she's almost as plastic-y as he is.
I guess I don"t have to tell you who I'd rather do...:D

Goddamn he's hot!!!
Aww, no, not another one. :p

That's actually true. *still giggling about Jesse, but when you're right, you're right*

It's a bigger problem than people realise. Lesbians tend to have gynaecological exams at a much lower rate than straight women, even when such factors as STDs and pregnancy are considered. Many cite heteronormative attitudes by caregivers as one of the bigger causes for it.

Actually, that applies to gay people in general with sensitive medical issues (or medical issues in general). Health care needs to be open and understanding towards all - not just another venue for exclusion.

No, no, you're not biased.You just have a semblance of good taste, something our Swedish friend is tragically lacking. :fluffle:
Thanks! :fluffle:

Yes, yes, it does. *helplessly laughing again*:p

Says the Keanu-lover.

Man, if I had to choose between the two, I'd rather do Eva Longoria, and that's saying a lot, seeing how she's almost as plastic-y as he is.

That just means you haven't seen his rougher, less mainstream pics...

how is it at all vulgar or offensive that there are posters to look at while you are examined?

Goddamn he's hot!!!

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8708/pdvd004up3.jpg

Just look at that pouty face. Makes me think of things to do to those lips...

It's a bigger problem than people realise. Lesbians tend to have gynaecological exams at a much lower rate than straight women, even when such factors as STDs and pregnancy are considered. Many cite heteronormative attitudes by caregivers as one of the bigger causes for it.

Actually, that applies to gay people in general with sensitive medical issues. Health care needs to be open and understanding towards all - not just another venue for exclusion.
Hmm, I don't doubt that you're basing this on research, but I do have to say I don't see how this would be a problem with gynaecologists. I mean, I'd only go to female gynaecologists anyway (actually I avoid going at all because it makes me uncomfortable anyway) and I don't quite see how they would hold heteronormative attitudes that would even be so much as evident during an exam. I mean, they never asked me about my male sexual contacts or anything, it's just basically about me.
But yeah, I certainly haven't payed specific attention to it either, so I may just be not sensitive enough to notice anything.

Says the Keanu-lover. The back-when-he-was-still-very-young-and-breathtakingly-hot-Keanu lover, you mean. :)

That just means you haven't seen his rougher, less mainstream pics... You mean the ones where his unibrow is in full, untweezed bloom? :p

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8708/pdvd004up3.jpg

Just look at that pouty face. Makes me think of things to do to those lips...
I'm shocked...that man is quite hairless...I thought you liked hair:confused:

Because as we all know, only 33.3% of women are straight. :rolleyes:
I imagine that ninety percent of the time it would be on the side showing men.

I'm shocked...that man is quite hairless...I thought you liked hair:confused:
Ah, see, that confused me too, at first. But you know - I think we just "haven't seen his rougher, less mainstream pics...". Heee. :p

Hmm, I don't doubt that you're basing this on research, but I do have to say I don't see how this would be a problem with gynaecologists. I mean, I'd only go to female gynaecologists anyway (actually I avoid going at all because it makes me uncomfortable anyway) and I don't quite see how they would hold heteronormative attitudes that would even be so much as evident during an exam. I mean, they never asked me about my male sexual contacts or anything, it's just basically about me.
But yeah, I certainly haven't payed specific attention to it either, so I may just be not sensitive enough to notice anything.

The doctor's gender is irrelevant if his/her behaviour is heteronormative. Sure, female gynos might be preferred by many women, but being female in and of itself doesn't mitigate a lack of understanding of lesbian issues.

I've spent more time than any gay man ever should have to with his fingers up twats in gyno receptions, and not once did I see any of the other staff ever consider the possibility that the patient was not heterosexual. Such an assumption is very potent in suppressing a patient's will to share - I knowit because I myself have gone along with heteronormative assumptions to avoid trouble and outright homophobic behaviour. It's sort of like a litmus test - the more they assume I'm straight, the less likely they are going to be understanding of the issues I have to deal with.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8708/pdvd004up3.jpg

Just look at that pouty face. Makes me think of things to do to those lips...OMG... gorgeous, so hot.

I imagine that ninety percent of the time it would be on the side showing men.Wot? You don't think lesbians do the "scoot down please" exam? It's bad enough that most OB/Gyns are men, but sheesh. :)

I'm shocked...that man is quite hairless...I thought you liked hair:confused:

Oh, I love hair! But I also love cuteness and muscles. If hair is included, all the (much, much) better, but if not, well, I wouldn't kick someone gorgeous out of bed just because of that.

Wot? You don't think lesbians do the "scoot down please" exam? It's bad enough that most OB/Gyns are men, but sheesh. :)
I really have no idea what you're talking about.

The back-when-he-was-still-very-young-and-breathtakingly-hot-Keanu lover, you mean. :)

Don't delude yourself - he was never hot.

You mean the ones where his unibrow is in full, untweezed bloom? :p

I meant his more unshaved look, but who are you, Keany lover, to talk about unsightly facial hair? Please don't make me post pics - I really don't want to google Keanu's ever-vacant countenance.

Edit: I had to make a case in point:

http://www.dillonzone.com/archives/keanu_worked.jpg

Nothing spells "handsome" like alopecia areata of the beard...

I meant his more unshaved look, but who are you, Keany lover, to talk about unsightly facial hair? Please don't make me post pics - I really don't want to google Keanu's ever-vacant countenance.

Edit: I had to make a case in point:

http://www.dillonzone.com/archives/keanu_worked.jpg

Nothing spells "handsome" like alopecia areata of the beard...
What about "The back-when-he-was-still-very-young-and-breathtakingly-hot-Keanu" don't you understand? :p

What about "The back-when-he-was-still-very-young-and-breathtakingly-hot-Keanu" don't you understand? :p

Which part of "he was never hot" don't you?

Oh, I love hair! But I also love cuteness and muscles. If hair is included, all the (much, much) better, but if not, well, I wouldn't kick someone gorgeous out of bed just because of that.
ahhh...I understand now *nod*

I really have no idea what you're talking about."Scoot down, please" is the absolute first thing out of an OB/gyn's mouth... 83.37% of the time. Otherwise, it's the second thing said after, "Well how are we doing?" "We're" doing fine about that point, it's after we've positioned ourself with our [didacted] that things get interesting.

ahhh...I understand now *nod*

Nod, bop, so close.

"Scoot down, please" is the absolute first thing out of an OB/gyn's mouth... 83.37% of the time. Otherwise, it's the second thing said after, "Well how are we doing?" "We're" doing fine about that point, it's after we've positioned ourself with our [didacted] that things get interesting.
Well see, I learned something today.

Wot? You don't think lesbians do the "scoot down please" exam? It's bad enough that most OB/Gyns are men, but sheesh. :)
I'm lucky to have found a female one and I have not noticed any pressure but then I'm fairly open and told her I was Lesbian the first day I went to her. I imagine if you are still seeing the same doc you first went to it might b a wee bit embarassing but otherwise its like any other doc. Tell them all the info you have about what you are seeing for, point out anything you think they have missed, forgotten, etc. and CERTAINLY let them know if anything they do makes you uncomfortable or worse.

I can understand why gay women would be reluctant to go to an OB/GYN with hetero-normative attitudes; it mirrors my reluctance to go back to my new doctor (the doc who go the practice when my former doc retired). I’m there for my pap test, which is required before they’ll write me my scrip for bc pills – and I receive a lecture for not being married. She doesn’t care that I’ve been in a monogamous, long term relationship for 12 years – no, she cares that I don’t have a little piece of paper telling me it’s okay to have sex. It’s been a year and I need to go back for a new scrip, and I have to either return to her or find another, less annoying doctor whose office is relatively close to my workplace AND who is actually taking new patients.

Sigh

A doctor’s attitude would make a big difference.
On the other hand, staring at pictures of men while someone is sticking a long, cold, metal spoon where it most definitely doesn’t belong doesn’t strike me as fun. I’d rather have a book or a movie. It doesn’t have to be an e-book either – just let me read the book I brought.

I can understand why gay women would be reluctant to go to an OB/GYN with hetero-normative attitudes; it mirrors my reluctance to go back to my new doctor (the doc who go the practice when my former doc retired). I’m there for my pap test, which is required before they’ll write me my scrip for bc pills – and I receive a lecture for not being married. She doesn’t care that I’ve been in a monogamous, long term relationship for 12 years – no, she cares that I don’t have a little piece of paper telling me it’s okay to have sex. It’s been a year and I need to go back for a new scrip, and I have to either return to her or find another, less annoying doctor whose office is relatively close to my workplace AND who is actually taking new patients.

Sigh

A doctor’s attitude would make a big difference.
On the other hand, staring at pictures of men while someone is sticking a long, cold, metal spoon where it most definitely doesn’t belong doesn’t strike me as fun. I’d rather have a book or a movie. It doesn’t have to be an e-book either – just let me read the book I brought.
I hope you find a good one. If you're in or near Miami I'll give you the name of mine.

I hope you find a good one. If you're in or near Miami I'll give you the name of mine.

I appreciate the thought, but that would be quite a long commute.

(Victoria, BC, Canada)

Seeing as how this thread has “gynecological” right in the title, I predict no less than ten pages of mostly spam.

Which part of "he was never hot" don't you?
Oh (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/foto20keanu207.jpg), shuddup (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/22.jpg)! :p

Oh (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/foto20keanu207.jpg), shuddup (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/22.jpg)

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/sick029.gif

I am not even gonna risk quoting that last pick, despite and due to the abundant pubage.

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I am not even gonna risk quoting that last pick, despite and due to the abundant pubage. Oh, alright, I deleted it. Even though I didn't find it over the line at all. But better safe than sorry. *mopes*

my OBGYN had pics on the ceiling, they were those "find the hidden picture type" ........ they were not helpful. :p

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/sad021.gif

Oh, alright, I deleted it. Even though I didn't find it over the line at all. But better safe than sorry. *mopes*
Aww don't mope. Here have some more chocolate. *hands over German chocolate* And a kiss but not a Hershey one. :) :fluffle:

my OBGYN had pics on the ceiling, they were those "find the hidden picture type" ........ they were not helpful. :p Aw, but that does sound pretty distracting. Why didn't it work?

Aww don't mope. Here have some more chocolate. *hands over German chocolate* And a kiss but not a Hershey one. :) :fluffle: Why, thank you! You know, I would keep you on standby for every time Fass makes me cry, but nobody could stand that kind of non-stop stress. :p

my OBGYN had pics on the ceiling, they were those "find the hidden picture type" ........ they were not helpful. :p
Wouldn't they make you keep moving around and trying to look at them closer or from different angle? Probably not what the doc wants during an exam.

Aw, but that does sound pretty distracting. Why didn't it work?
I was concentrating on finding pictures and apparently that makes me tense LOL

Wouldn't they make you keep moving around and trying to look at them closer or from different angle? Probably not what the doc wants during an exam.
that was also part of the problem, after I got done with the endless "scoot down" then it was at an angle that I had to tilt my head back to see it. Maybe they should have a nurse test out where they tape it up.......or better yet lets make the doctor scoot down until he feels like he is going to fall, put his legs in the stirrups............LOL

I was concentrating on finding pictures and apparently that makes me tense LOL Heeee. :p

True. Why don't they just put a TV up there? Or a good book, with really big print?

yeah, high five, my first thought after 'they need a distraction' I was like, hmmm, tv's, I work in a clinic and tv's are everywhere, I mean honestly if you buy thirty of them whiolesale, 13 in. tv's would be cheap

Do you understand what "revolving" means?
Yes, and it's still disproportionate. It should be 90% men and 10% women in that case, to match the statistics.

Yes, and it's still disproportionate. It should be 90% men and 10% women in that case, to match the statistics.

I don't mean to offend, but are you joking or are you serious? I ask because what you are suggesting is so stupid, I have a hard time believing that you mean it.

I'm lucky to have found a female one and I have not noticed any pressure ...You are indeed lucky and that's excellent advice. I eventually found an excellent one, oddly enough, male and nearing retirement.

Things that OB/gyns do that they shouldn't:

--make ice-breaking conversation on the topic of "what does your husband do?"
--use cold speculums
--make you wear those stupid paper gowns instead of nice, clean cotton ones
--make someone with period-related anemia and palpable fibroids wait year before treating them, because "you might change your mind and want a baby."

I'm sure there are others. ;)

my OBGYN had pics on the ceiling, they were those "find the hidden picture type" ........ they were not helpful. :p But preferable to an anatomical chart with YOU ARE HERE -->, eh? :D

I can understand why gay women would be reluctant to go to an OB/GYN with hetero-normative attitudes; it mirrors my reluctance to go back to my new doctor (the doc who go the practice when my former doc retired). I’m there for my pap test, which is required before they’ll write me my scrip for bc pills – and I receive a lecture for not being married. She doesn’t care that I’ve been in a monogamous, long term relationship for 12 years – no, she cares that I don’t have a little piece of paper telling me it’s okay to have sex. It’s been a year and I need to go back for a new scrip, and I have to either return to her or find another, less annoying doctor whose office is relatively close to my workplace AND who is actually taking new patients.

Sigh

A doctor’s attitude would make a big difference.
On the other hand, staring at pictures of men while someone is sticking a long, cold, metal spoon where it most definitely doesn’t belong doesn’t strike me as fun. I’d rather have a book or a movie. It doesn’t have to be an e-book either – just let me read the book I brought.

If you get stuck with the same woman and she gives you gyp again, say something along these lines: "Listen you jumped-up little bitch, for all you know I could be a fucking lesbian - I'm not, but that's none of your fucking business anyway, AND NEITHER IS MY LIFE. YOU are here to do what you get paid for, not to fucking preach. I'm very happy not being married so if you don't stop trying to impose your views on me, I'm gonna take that spoon and stick down your throat UNTIL YOU CHOSE TO DEATH!" now calmly: "Oh, and if you try anything because of what I just said, I'm going to break both your arms." Then smile :)

But preferable to an anatomical chart with YOU ARE HERE -->, eh? :D
or "I am here"

or "I am here"
Yeah. And I wanna be there. So, how likely is that? :p *runs out of thread*