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[Lebanon] "It wasn't us...it was Hezbolla and we simply can't control them."

[Saudi Arabia] "It wasn't us...it was Al Quida and we simply can't control them."


The US and the UK need a rogue force that we simply can't seem to find, control or influence.

US: "Oh it wasn't us that bombed your terrorist training facility. It was those pesky freedom fighters. We simply can't control them. Sorry!"

I've been thinking about it.......

Discuss. It's both comedial and semi-serious....

Sorry it was the Bush administartion, we can't control them...

Proxy wars are for cowards.

But on a serious note that would be an intersting idea to make our own anti terrorst terrorst group.

Proxy wars are for cowards.

Proxy terrorist wars are for cowards.

Yes, I agree.


But on a serious note that would be an intersting idea to make our own anti terrorst terrorst group.

I'm in!

NSG anti-terrorist non-terrorist group.

Have gun, will travel.

:fluffle:

:D

But on a serious note that would be an intersting idea to make our own anti terrorst terrorst group.

Im sure we could find some if we really looked, but where would they operate out of? Or better yet use the CIA to plant enough evidence to start an underground war between Hez and the IRA.

You say we can learn a lot from these people. Are we supposed to be learning how to blame others for our problems? After reading those quotes, that's what is seems like to me.

Im sure we could find some if we really looked, but where would they operate out of? Or better yet use the CIA to plant enough evidence to start an underground war between Hez and the IRA.

Don't forget Al Quedia.

You say we can learn a lot from these people. Are we supposed to be learning how to blame others for our problems? After reading those quotes, that's what is seems like to me.

If it involves sowing deceit and treachery for the bad guys, yep.

Im sure we could find some if we really looked, but where would they operate out of? Or better yet use the CIA to plant enough evidence to start an underground war between Hez and the IRA.

Googlefight.

I'd like to see Hamas/Fatah/Pali Jihad 3way battle.

Sorry it was the Bush administartion, we can't control them...

rofl, that got a laught outta me.

Old idea, DM, the US has done it before: contra rebels, Cuban dissidents, etc.

The US just trains them, equips them, and funds them. But they're not under their control, no, just a little nudge here and there.

I do like the idea of using the CIA to get Hezz, Al Queida and IRA to fight one another.

Discuss. It's both comedial and semi-serious....If the US had just come out of a civil war and had members of a terrorist organization in its government, maybe you'd be able to use that argument.

Googlefight.

I'd like to see Hamas/Fatah/Pali Jihad 3way battle.
Get a life.

I do like the idea of using the CIA to get Hezz, Al Queida and IRA to fight one another.

But the CIA like the IRA!

[Lebanon] "It wasn't us...it was Hezbolla and we simply can't control them."

[Saudi Arabia] "It wasn't us...it was Al Quida and we simply can't control them."


The US and the UK need a rogue force that we simply can't seem to find, control or influence.

US: "Oh it wasn't us that bombed your terrorist training facility. It was those pesky freedom fighters. We simply can't control them. Sorry!"

I've been thinking about it.......

Discuss. It's both comedial and semi-serious....

cant do that..as anyone with a shred of a brain knows who the benefactors are...
hezbollah=iran/syria
contras=us cia
muhajideen=osama backed by cia(soviet era in afghanistan)
plo=every fucking arab state that did not want palistinians in their country...jordan egypt saudi arabia syria..etal!
el salvador death squads(i forget the moniker)=cia

it's usually kinda obvious as to who supplies who..no?

could go on all day with the brits and french and russians and sino's..but that would be flogging a dead horse now..wouldnt it.

[Lebanon] "It wasn't us...it was Hezbolla and we simply can't control them."

[Saudi Arabia] "It wasn't us...it was Al Quida and we simply can't control them."


The US and the UK need a rogue force that we simply can't seem to find, control or influence.

US: "Oh it wasn't us that bombed your terrorist training facility. It was those pesky freedom fighters. We simply can't control them. Sorry!"

I've been thinking about it.......

Discuss. It's both comedial and semi-serious....

That would be the Contras, Lebanese Christian Militias, Israel, Pakistan, Loyalist paramiltaries........

That would be the Contras, Lebanese Christian Militias, Israel, Pakistan, Loyalist paramiltaries........
Israel and Pakistan are countries, and though you can debate the morals, having a country takes you off the 'Force' grouping.

Old idea, DM, the US has done it before: contra rebels, Cuban dissidents, etc.

The US just trains them, equips them, and funds them. But they're not under their control, no, just a little nudge here and there.

You forgot to add that when the going gets tough the US abandons them to their fate...

The US and the UK need a rogue force that we simply can't seem to find, control or influence.

US: "Oh it wasn't us that bombed your terrorist training facility. It was those pesky freedom fighters. We simply can't control them. Sorry!"

I've been thinking about it.......

Discuss. It's both comedial and semi-serious....
The Muhad'juhadeen...
The Cuban Exiles...
The Greek Royalists...
Various groups in South America...
The IRA in the US' case...
Lebanese Christians...
The Iraqi Death Squads...

The list goes on, really.

el salvador death squads(i forget the moniker)=cia
Those would probably be the Dingbats (or that may have been in Panama).

[Lebanon] "It wasn't us...it was Hezbolla and we simply can't control them."

[Saudi Arabia] "It wasn't us...it was Al Quida and we simply can't control them."


The US and the UK need a rogue force that we simply can't seem to find, control or influence.

US: "Oh it wasn't us that bombed your terrorist training facility. It was those pesky freedom fighters. We simply can't control them. Sorry!"

I've been thinking about it.......

Discuss. It's both comedial and semi-serious....
Oh man, the U.S. seriously don't need them - the need to stop employing them and their likes.

That would be a lesson worth learning.

Old idea, DM, the US has done it before: contra rebels, Cuban dissidents, etc.

The US just trains them, equips them, and funds them. But they're not under their control, no, just a little nudge here and there.
You forgot to mention Saddam, whom I think even DM might have heard of, and no doubt would applaud Saddam's efforts to control the country of Iraq. US admin certainly thought so, up until 1991 at least.

And of course that wonderful Nicaraguan dictator, Somoza who was famously described by Franklin D. Roosevelt as, "He may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch".

Then's there's General Augusto Pinochet Ugarte, the shining Chilian beacon of moderation and fairness, who managed to weasel his way out of being tried for War Crimes by being 'too ill'.

I'm sure there's more that other posters here will mention.


Though I do wonder as to the point. None of this ever seems to sink into DM's solid skull. I'm not sure if it's active ignorance or subconscious blinkeredness.

Even DM isn't ignorant enough not to know how many proxy forces/terror groups the US has funded over the years?

But America isn't fighting against terror. America is just creating chaos and civil war in the region in order to control resources. War against terror can't be win by guns, its won by stopping the flow of money and resources to terrorist organisation and international coordination, local goverments support etc. Destroying the local goverments just creates a vacuum of power and control which is filled by terror.

[Lebanon] "It wasn't us...it was Hezbolla and we simply can't control them."

[Saudi Arabia] "It wasn't us...it was Al Quida and we simply can't control them."

The US and the UK need a rogue force that we simply can't seem to find, control or influence.
Yeah we used to have this one called the IRA. It wasn't as good as you might imagine.

The Muhad'juhadeen...
The Cuban Exiles...
The Greek Royalists...
Various groups in South America...
The IRA in the US' case...
Lebanese Christians...
The Iraqi Death Squads...

The list goes on, really.

Since when did the US government fund the IRA?

Or better yet use the CIA to plant enough evidence to start an underground war between Hez and the IRA. Or better yet use the CIA to plant bombs to start an underground war between Sunnis and Shias.

Even DM isn't ignorant enough not to know how many proxy forces/terror groups the US has funded over the years?
Of course he is. Hasn't he proven that over and over and over again on these fora?

Education is your friend :)

Ever hear of the US-Backed "Strategy of Tension" within Italy?

You know, working with fascist terrorist groups to discredit communists? Yup, America sure hates nazism.

The US and the UK need a rogue force that we simply can't seem to find, control or influence.
Why be burdened with a permanent one, when you can hire any in the world for a year at a time? It works so well, even military fanboys don't realise it is being done.