NationStates Jolt Archive


what is an american?

Secret aj man
12-08-2006, 05:22
i saw this on another forum.

i think it was written by an american,not the aussie dentist.

it does make an interesting point though.
that the fundie islamo nuts kill their own trying to kill us..for what?

i understand they have grievances against the u.s gov,but surely they cant hate an arab working in the towers when it fell,unless they are hell bent on everyone conforming to their pov or they are fair game...not really addressing a political grievance now is it...just plain murder to further the cause they want.
strict adherence to sharia law(the fun stuff like the taliban wanted)

which kinda blows the argument out of the water(no pun intended)that it is about the u.s. or the brits or the french exploiting them in the past or present..not political or about culture,but really about religion.

sooo,as far as i am concerned..blow me up if your pissed at me cause of my gov..at least i can get my head around that..but over some archaic religous ideal of holding down women(so they can control them)and barbaric practices long ago tossed into the ashbin of civilized society...your crazy to even sympathise.

this is about religion....and religous attitudes only(at least thats how they sell it to the uneducated idealist suicide bomber)

jeez...and the world hates america cause we are supposedly all white christian fundies..lol

the following article(source unknown)is pretty accurate,omitting the fact(with the bit about the statue of liberty) that we are not so welcoming to immigrants now,like we use to be..but then mass homicide and being over run and used, tends to make one a tad defensive.
thought it might make an interesting article to debate..i agree with some,and disagree with some...but then again,i am not on either divide...firmly falling thru the gulf between the 2 opposing attitudes.

please dont read anything into my comments other then my utter disdain for religous nuts....and enjoy the article...



REWARD! Kill an American

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Don't know the validity of this one but it was a pretty good read.

Written by an Australian Dentist....and too good to delete....


To Kill an American
You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.


So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)


"An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan.


An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navajo, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.


An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.


An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.


An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.


When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!


As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan. Americans welcome the best of everything...the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.


The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty , welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America.


Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.

So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
Neo Kervoskia
12-08-2006, 05:24
An American is someone who is from the Americas.
Iztatepopotla
12-08-2006, 05:26
A person who lives in the American continent, or a person who lives in the USA. Depends on context.
Neo Kervoskia
12-08-2006, 05:27
A person who lives in the American continent, or a person who lives in the USA. Depends on context.
Simple question, simple answer. *nods*
Iztatepopotla
12-08-2006, 05:33
Simple question, simple answer. *nods*
Yup.
Zarathoft
12-08-2006, 05:34
Well it's nice to know somebody doesn't hate us...


I wonder if he got any shit for writing that.
Secret aj man
12-08-2006, 06:22
Well it's nice to know somebody doesn't hate us...


I wonder if he got any shit for writing that.

i dont think it was written by an aussie dentist as i stated in the op,but some,and i reiterate.some...very good points.
Maraque
12-08-2006, 06:39
It's rather interesting, yes.
Tech-gnosis
12-08-2006, 06:40
An American is someone born in the US or someone who has passed the citizenship test with all its prerequesites(spelling?). Or any illegal immigrants that are granted citizenship cuz its easier to do than collect all of them and send 'em home.
Secret aj man
12-08-2006, 06:41
An American is someone born in the US or someone who has passed the citizenship test with all its prerequesites(spelling?). Or any illegal immigrants that are granted citizenship cuz its easier to do than collect all of them and send 'em home.

zing
Dobbsworld
12-08-2006, 06:57
It's rather interesting, yes.
Not particularly. It makes for rather dull reading, actually.
IL Ruffino
12-08-2006, 07:05
http://www.lakotaherbal.com/images/native-american-picture.jpg
Avika
12-08-2006, 07:18
Interesting article. America took in the poor, the desperate, and the spoiled and used them to create the most powerful and third largest(landwise or populationwise) nation on the face of the planet. Imagine how much more powerful the US would have been if it took in just the best and brightest.
Barbaric Tribes
12-08-2006, 07:37
Sings* "We all living in Amerika, Amerika! its Underbar!".....good song
Barbaric Tribes
12-08-2006, 07:40
Some people just cant get over the fact that America is the best nation in the world. Except for Russia. The only reason why people go after america and not Russia is because when you go up against Russia you get the living shit ripped out of you and your nation is left as nothing.
[NS::::]Komyunizumu
12-08-2006, 07:50
An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.


An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.


I don't agree with that bit, and the whole article is a bit too patriotic and mushy to be read as an accurate account. But i'm sure it confused any poor idiots who thought they could kill an American.

THE REAL WAY TO KILL AN AMERICAN: Place an American in a room with a sound sensitive explosive. Then play the American Nathional Anthem at low volume and run away.
Wallonochia
12-08-2006, 08:00
Sings* "We all living in Amerika, Amerika! its Underbar!".....good song

Isn't it "ist wunderbar"? With some sort of crazy umlaut in there somewhere, I'm sure.

Anyway, the OP is part of what makes me nuts about my own countrymen. They seem to think that the US is God's gift to humanity, and that everyone else is suffering because they're not American.
Dunroaming
12-08-2006, 08:42
Regrettably, someone is normally insular, and does not realise that the world is larger and more complex than he/she realises.
United Chicken Kleptos
12-08-2006, 08:53
The Statue of Liberty was a gift from France. :p
[NS]Wandless Pirates
12-08-2006, 09:02
Meh America is America...they do things their way just as every other country does
Bul-Katho
12-08-2006, 09:09
An american is someone who is a citizen of the United States.
Bul-Katho
12-08-2006, 09:11
The Statue of Liberty was a gift from France. :p

You take a semesters worth 8th grade world history and now you think you're the smartest person alive. No shit the statue of liberty was a gift from France, I'm sure even fucking stupid hicks know that.
Cameroi
12-08-2006, 11:32
what any ONE is ain't got diddly to do with where they live.

what anyone is, is an awairness. generaly, and most probably everyone reading and comprehending this is an awairness occupying an organic life form.

although it is quite conceivable for awairnessess to occupy other constructs of sufficient complexity and intillectual agility.

most of you probably occupy the life form that has been labled 'human' or more specificly homosapiens sapiens.

but there's no reason to assume others arn't reading this too. or will eventualy.

all of which, none of which, has diddly to do with governments or geography, other then for humans there needs to be something to breath, something to stand on, something to eat and various other conditions prerequisite to their host organism's survival.

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Kamsaki
12-08-2006, 11:45
An American is someone who says "I am an American" and means it.
BogMarsh
12-08-2006, 11:46
An American is someone who says "I am an American" and means it.

*nods*