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Do Disney movies contain subliminal erotica?

Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:35
Do Disney movies contain subliminal erotica? Disney (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdisneyperv.html)


I have to know. I think its just some people looking too deep into things and seeing and hearing stuff that isn't really there for the most part. Unless I see video proof.
The Aeson
11-08-2006, 23:38
Do Disney movies contain subliminal erotica? Disney (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdisneyperv.html)


I have to know. I think its just some people looking too deep into things and seeing and hearing stuff that isn't really there for the most part. Unless I see video proof.

Some of them do, yeah. Artists have their little jokes, I'm sure.

Example, in a story I never finished, the protagonist's Freudian psychiatrist was named Phillip Henry Allac.
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:40
Some of them do, yeah. Artists have their little jokes, I'm sure.

Example, in a story I never finished, the protagonist's Freudian psychiatrist was named Phillip Henry Allac.


Ummm. Ok.
Keruvalia
11-08-2006, 23:40
One can only hope so.
IL Ruffino
11-08-2006, 23:41
They have transexual cows in their new movie.
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:41
One can only hope so.


Shame on you. Disney movies like snow white are family movies.
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:42
They have transexual cows in their new movie.


What? What movie are you thinking of?
The Aeson
11-08-2006, 23:43
What? What movie are you thinking of?

Well, I'm just guessing, but I'd say that one with the animals and the pizza. If I'm not mistaken, there's a male cow with udders.
Keruvalia
11-08-2006, 23:44
Shame on you. Disney movies like snow white are family movies.

Newsflash: Sex creates families.
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:45
Well, I'm just guessing, but I'd say that one with the animals and the pizza. If I'm not mistaken, there's a male cow with udders.



Barnyard?


http://www.barnyardmovie.com/


Thats not disney, Thats a nickelodeon film.
IL Ruffino
11-08-2006, 23:46
What? What movie are you thinking of?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414853/

That's Disney, right?
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:46
Newsflash: Sex creates families.


Newsflash:The mommy and daddy are adults. Unless you think its ok for 10 year old girls to have kids?
Neo Kervoskia
11-08-2006, 23:47
They should.
Keruvalia
11-08-2006, 23:47
Newsflash:The mommy and daddy are adults. Unless you think its ok for 10 year old girls to have kids?

Newsflash: Cartoons ain't real.
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:47
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414853/

That's Disney, right?



No. Nickelodeon.
Neo Kervoskia
11-08-2006, 23:48
Newsflash: Cartoons ain't real.
LIES! LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIES!!!!!!
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:48
Newsflash: Cartoons ain't real.



Forget it.:rolleyes:
Smunkeeville
11-08-2006, 23:49
there is a lady in my homeschool group that can pull "inappropriate" imagry out of just about anything, most of her "Disney" objections are crap, but a few of them did make me think..for about 30 seconds then I remembered that she is a nutjob. ;)
IL Ruffino
11-08-2006, 23:50
No. Nickelodeon.
Well that's still a transexual cow.
Neo Kervoskia
11-08-2006, 23:50
Oy vay. Yeah, because we all know 7 year olds need to see porn.:rolleyes: Stop this now before it turns into a you know what thread and gets locked.
No, just because then Disney would be interesting instead of repetitive.
Montacanos
11-08-2006, 23:50
Some of them do, like the little mermaid castles whose towers clearly resemble *ahem*, the artist claims it was a practical joke that was never meant to make it to final production. The Lion King stardust spelling "Sex" was snoped to reveal that is actually spelled SFX, the sound company working on the project.
IL Ruffino
11-08-2006, 23:51
Oy vay. Yeah, because we all know 7 year olds need to see porn.:rolleyes: Stop this now before it turns into a you know what thread and gets locked.
Makybe you should pop a humor pill?
Keruvalia
11-08-2006, 23:52
Forget it.:rolleyes:

If a 7 year old is seeing porno referrences in a Disney film, that 7 year old needs therapy.

Such referrences are designed to keep *adults* interested as they sit there in that theater watching some crappy kids movie wishing to their various gods that the movie would end so they could take their obnoxious child home and make it take a nap.

That's why adult referrences are in Disney films.

If you don't see that, grow up a few years, have some kids, and take them to the movies.
ConscribedComradeship
11-08-2006, 23:53
Am I the only one thinking that this thread needs pictures for analysis? :confused:
Neo Kervoskia
11-08-2006, 23:53
If a 7 year old is seeing porno referrences in a Disney film, that 7 year old needs therapy.

Such referrences are designed to keep *adults* interested as they sit there in that theater watching some crappy kids movie wishing to their various gods that the movie would end so they could take their obnoxious child home and make it take a nap.

That's why adult referrences are in Disney films.

If you don't see that, grow up a few years, have some kids, and take them to the movies.
I thought you showed porn to your genetic resemblance. He is a Keruvalia after all.
Keruvalia
11-08-2006, 23:54
Am I the only one thinking that this thread needs pictures for analysis? :confused:

Whatever you do ... don't google disney porn.
Laerod
11-08-2006, 23:54
there is a lady in my homeschool group that can pull "inappropriate" imagry out of just about anything, most of her "Disney" objections are crap, but a few of them did make me think..for about 30 seconds then I remembered that she is a nutjob. ;)You haven't heard the Aladin quote for yourself yet, I presume? :p
Keruvalia
11-08-2006, 23:54
I thought you showed porn to your genetic resemblance. He is a Keruvalia after all.

I show porn to everyone!
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:55
If a 7 year old is seeing porno referrences in a Disney film, that 7 year old needs therapy.

Such referrences are designed to keep *adults* interested as they sit there in that theater watching some crappy kids movie wishing to their various gods that the movie would end so they could take their obnoxious child home and make it take a nap.

That's why adult referrences are in Disney films.

If you don't see that, grow up a few years, have some kids, and take them to the movies.


You obviously have no kids. Parents take their kids to these so they don't have to worry about that stuff! Now stop flaming.
JuNii
11-08-2006, 23:56
Shame on you. Disney movies like snow white are family movies.
ever count howmany of their "Family Movies" actually contain a full family?

especially their animated films?
JuNii
11-08-2006, 23:57
What? What movie are you thinking of?
The Barnyard. the main character is a Cow... not Bull... and he's male. or on steroids...
Laerod
11-08-2006, 23:57
You obviously have no kids. Parents take their kids to these so they don't have to worry about that stuff! Now stop flaming.
To my knowledge, he does have kids...
Rasselas
11-08-2006, 23:57
Someone, somewhere, will be able to find subliminal erotica in pretty much everything, including Disney films. Just depends how you look at them. Theres supposed to be a penis-shaped tower on the Little Mermaid cover...and if you look for it, its there. Whether its deliberate or not...

Adult jokes on the other hand, are there on purpose. What else is there to keep me entertained when I take the 5 year old nephew to the cinema?
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:58
ever count howmany of their "Family Movies" actually contain a full family?

especially their animated films?


I mean family friendly, that doesn't mean the movie has a family in it.
United Chicken Kleptos
11-08-2006, 23:58
Do Disney movies contain subliminal erotica? Disney (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdisneyperv.html)


I have to know. I think its just some people looking too deep into things and seeing and hearing stuff that isn't really there for the most part. Unless I see video proof.

Yes. Just watch Fantasia. The brooms are like wooden penises and there's topless centaur chicks, not to mention the naked flying babies.
Keruvalia
11-08-2006, 23:58
You obviously have no kids. Parents take their kids to these so they don't have to worry about that stuff! Now stop flaming.

Ummm ... I have 5 children.
Empress_Suiko
11-08-2006, 23:59
To my knowledge, he does have kids...


Yeah right. With his above post I doubt it.
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:01
Yeah right. With his above post I doubt it.

My above post is right.

Disney is smart enough to include adult referrences in their movies because they know two things:

1] The kids won't get it anyway.
2] Adults are at those movies with the kids and it's essential to keep them entertained as well.

You'd know that if you had kids.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:03
You haven't heard the Aladin quote for yourself yet, I presume? :p
acutally I have, on my friend's recording equipment we stripped out the tiger sounds and listened, once you do that it's quite clear it says

"be a good kitty, take off and go now"
IL Ruffino
12-08-2006, 00:04
Ummm ... I have 5 children.
Pwnt! :D
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:04
Yes. Just watch Fantasia. The brooms are like wooden penises and there's topless centaur chicks, not to mention the naked flying babies.


Can't, don't have it and its not on sale anymore..I think.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:04
My above post is right.

Disney is smart enough to include adult referrences in their movies because they know two things:

1] The kids won't get it anyway.
2] Adults are at those movies with the kids and it's essential to keep them entertained as well.

You'd know that if you had kids.
I for one am thankful for the adult references........come on Mr. Potato head taking off his lips and kissing his own ass LMAO, it's priceless.
Neo Kervoskia
12-08-2006, 00:05
Ummm ... I have 5 children.
Jesus Christ! You must have seen The Lion King so many times that even Nala looks sexy.
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:05
I for one am thankful for the adult references........come on Mr. Potato head taking off his lips and kissing his own ass LMAO, it's priceless.

I'm right there with ya! I'd never take my kids to the movies if they didn't throw us a bone now and then. :D
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:05
Pwnt! :D


Not buying it, I have yet to see a parent ok with sneaking porn into kids movies. Not a parent.....or.....
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:05
Jesus Christ! You must have seen The Lion King so many times that even Nala looks sexy.

ROFL! Well ... I was never a "Zero Population Growth" advocate.
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:06
Not buying it, I have yet to see a parent ok with sneaking porn into kids movies. Not a parent.....or.....

A funny adult reference isn't porn, you Puritan.

You want to see pics of my kids?
Neo Kervoskia
12-08-2006, 00:06
Not buying it, I have yet to see a parent ok with sneaking porn into kids movies. Not a parent.....or.....
So he's a reckless parent. Still a parent.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:06
Not buying it, I have yet to see a parent ok with sneaking porn into kids movies. Not a parent.....or.....
if the kid doesn't pick up on it, then how is it harming them?
Laerod
12-08-2006, 00:06
Yeah right. With his above post I doubt it.
I'd link to the picture of him and his son from his profile in the player profile thread, but the link no longer works.
IL Ruffino
12-08-2006, 00:07
Not buying it, I have yet to see a parent ok with sneaking porn into kids movies. Not a parent.....or.....
Fine, be an ignorant n00b.
Rasselas
12-08-2006, 00:11
Can't, don't have it and its not on sale anymore..I think.
Thats what ebay's for.

Not buying it, I have yet to see a parent ok with sneaking porn into kids movies. Not a parent.....or.....
Hell, even I know the guy has kids...and I only browse the forums occasionally.

And its not porn. Its adult jokes that kids wont even notice anyway.


(Oh God it's taking jolt like 15 years to post this *sobs*)
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:13
if the kid doesn't pick up on it, then how is it harming them?


I have a 7 year old nephew...trust me, they pick up on it.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:14
I have a 7 year old nephew...trust me, they pick up on it.
I have a 5 year old with an IQ of 167 and a 3 year old, trust me they don't.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:16
I have a 5 year old with an IQ of 167 and a 3 year old, trust me they don't.



an IQ of 167? *cough*


I have a 4 year old and 7 year old nephew..They DO catch these things.
Big Jim P
12-08-2006, 00:16
You know, we wouldn't be having this converstation (debate, whatever you want to call it,) if people would actually think with something other than their sexual organs.
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:16
I'd link to the picture of him and his son from his profile in the player profile thread, but the link no longer works.

Here's some pics of them ...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/Snoo_Snoo/maddie.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/Snoo_Snoo/Hannibal.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/Snoo_Snoo/scan.jpg
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:17
I have a 7 year old nephew...trust me, they pick up on it.

Ummm ... not unless there's something really wrong and the parents are allowing the child more knowledge than a child should have.
Laerod
12-08-2006, 00:18
an IQ of 167? *cough*


I have a 4 year old and 7 year old nephew..They DO catch these things.I doubt you've heard about these things from them, otherwise you wouldn't be asking for proof. I've been a kid and watched these things. I didn't pick up on them because they're not very obvious. Most adults don't notice them either until their attention is drawn to it.
JuNii
12-08-2006, 00:18
I have a 5 year old with an IQ of 167 and a 3 year old, trust me they don't.
well, smunkee... with an IQ that high, maybe they just arn't telling you. [/jk] :D
Bolol
12-08-2006, 00:19
Well now that I have a list, I'll have to check this shit out.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:19
I doubt you've heard about these things from them, otherwise you wouldn't be asking for proof. I've been a kid and watched these things. I didn't pick up on them because they're not very obvious. Most adults don't notice them either until their attention is drawn to it.


You would think that wouldn't you...I wouldn't say they catch these things if they have never said anything about it.....some were not disney movies.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:20
an IQ of 167? *cough*
yes. She and I and her father are all members of Mensa too, although her IQ is higher than mine and my husbands..... but she doesn't need to know that.

I have a 4 year old and 7 year old nephew..They DO catch these things.
tell me, what do they catch? give me a specific example
Neo Kervoskia
12-08-2006, 00:20
-Snip-
They're not yours. You stole them from somebody just to take those pictures and prove your point. Admit it.
Rasselas
12-08-2006, 00:20
an IQ of 167? *cough*


I have a 4 year old and 7 year old nephew..They DO catch these things.
Her kids are freaky smart ;)

Even if they notice the reference, chances are they don't understand it. Seriously, how many adult jokes did you understand at 4 years old? :rolleyes:
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:21
They're not yours. You stole them from somebody just to take those pictures and prove your point. Admit it.

Don't tell the neighbors....

<.<
>.>

Here's even me with one of them!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/Snoo_Snoo/James.jpg
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:23
The Barnyard. the main character is a Cow... not Bull... and he's male. or on steroids...


So? Its the scenes refering to coyote ugly that should interest you.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:24
I doubt you've heard about these things from them, otherwise you wouldn't be asking for proof. I've been a kid and watched these things. I didn't pick up on them because they're not very obvious. Most adults don't notice them either until their attention is drawn to it.
seriously that is true, I went back the other day and was watching some Rocky and Bullwinkle and I was like "OMG, I can't believe my parents let me watch this" but I figured out it was the same then as it is now, I just "know more" than I did when I was 5 years old.

Even if the kid does catch something, isn't it good for you to be able to talk to them about it?
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:24
yes. She and I and her father are all members of Mensa too, although her IQ is higher than mine and my husbands..... but she doesn't need to know that.


tell me, what do they catch? give me a specific example


What looked like a penis in the little mermaid and donald saying the N word in Roger Rabbit.
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:26
What looked like a penis in the little mermaid and donald saying the N word in Roger Rabbit.

My goodness ... a boy knows what a penis looks like! *gasp* Heaven forbid!

You should make sure his parents cut his off now so that he'll never be able to recognize it ever again on stage or screen. While we're at it, let's put a bra on Lady Liberty and a tarp over the Washington Monument.
JuNii
12-08-2006, 00:26
What looked like a penis in the little mermaid and donald saying the N word in Roger Rabbit.
um... the penis thing is on the original cover / poster. that was pulled after the second printing.

and your child caught the n word in Roger Rabbit?
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:27
and your child caught the n word in Roger Rabbit?

Dude ... *I* didn't even catch the N word in Roger Rabbit.
Katganistan
12-08-2006, 00:27
I suggest you all read snopes.com and their analysis of the Disney films.

Aladdin's dialogue was unclear and partly taped over, it does, in fact say, "Be a good kitty, take off and go now."

SFX in Lion King was already mentioned....

On the FIRST printing of the Little Mermaid tape boxes, one of the spires was shaped like an erect penis -- speculation was it was someone disgruntled; or even unconscious of what they drew. The city DID look organically grown....

In the rerelease of the Rescuers, a Disney employee DID insert a few frames of a topless woman in a window in the background; you have to be going frame by frame to see it.

Commonly people believe that Jessica in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" was wearing no underwear -- if you look at the frames, you can see the panty lines, but see that they were miscolored.
JuNii
12-08-2006, 00:28
So? Its the scenes refering to coyote ugly that should interest you.
why should it. I don't care one way or another about all those inside jokes.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:28
seriously that is true, I went back the other day and was watching some Rocky and Bullwinkle and I was like "OMG, I can't believe my parents let me watch this" but I figured out it was the same then as it is now, I just "know more" than I did when I was 5 years old.

Even if the kid does catch something, isn't it good for you to be able to talk to them about it?


They are not my kids...so it their mother problem. I'd rather avoid the topic until they are older. You can't put adult material in kids shows and use you should talk to them about it as an excuse to do it. Its not disney's job to raise kids anyway.
Neo Kervoskia
12-08-2006, 00:28
What looked like a penis in the little mermaid and donald saying the N word in Roger Rabbit.
Did you catch the scene where the Genie in Aladin told The Aristocrats to the little kids? I might also add that the palace was a breat made to look like a palace.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:28
What looked like a penis in the little mermaid and donald saying the N word in Roger Rabbit.
a penis is not bad, it's a body part, that's like saying "there are toes in the little mermaid, you can see her toes!!!!" it's idiotic to treat it any differently.

and the "n" word is not something that is forbidden to talk about either, you can't tell a kid "yes, he said that but it's not nice, and we shouldn't say it"

:rolleyes:
Laerod
12-08-2006, 00:29
You would think that wouldn't you...I wouldn't say they catch these things if they have never said anything about it.....some were not disney movies.Which would be irrelevant, since we're talking about the style of these things in Disney movies and not "some that aren't".
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:29
um... the penis thing is on the original cover / poster. that was pulled after the second printing.

and your child caught the n word in Roger Rabbit?



Um yeah, shocked the hell outta me. I asked him how did you hear that?
JuNii
12-08-2006, 00:30
Don't tell the neighbors....

<.<
>.>

Here's even me with one of them!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/Snoo_Snoo/James.jpg
that's you?!? for a moment I thought it was johnny Depp. :D
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:31
Did you catch the scene where the Genie in Aladin told The Aristocrats to the little kids? I might also add that the palace was a breat made to look like a palace.


What?
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:31
that's you?!? for a moment I thought it was johnny Depp. :D

You are way, way, way too kind. You've actually just made my day.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:31
They are not my kids...so it their mother problem. I'd rather avoid the topic until they are older. You can't put adult material in kids shows and use you should talk to them about it as an excuse to do it. Its not disney's job to raise kids anyway.
no, it's not. which is why I don't leave them to raise my children. If my kids see something questionable, I talk to them about it, because I am the parent. Being a good parent however means that I go to movies before I take them to see them so I know what to expect and if it's too much I don't take them.

You can't expect Disney to cater to every nutjob who has an opinion.
Wilgrove
12-08-2006, 00:32
This is not sexual related, but I have heard Donald Duck call Daffy a ****** in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." As for adult themes, comon, what about Roger's Rabbit girlfriend? Don't tell me that her boobs need to be that big for the kids.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:32
a penis is not bad, it's a body part, that's like saying "there are toes in the little mermaid, you can see her toes!!!!" it's idiotic to treat it any differently.

and the "n" word is not something that is forbidden to talk about either, you can't tell a kid "yes, he said that but it's not nice, and we shouldn't say it"

:rolleyes:


Do you even know what the N word is? I have a feeling you may be on a different page than me.
JuNii
12-08-2006, 00:33
Um yeah, shocked the hell outta me. I asked him how did you hear that?
Ahh... so you don't actually know they heard those words in the movie. it could be that they overheard it somewhere else and just said some movie... ;)
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:33
This is not sexual related, but I have heard Donald Duck call Daffy a ****** in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." As for adult themes, comon, what about Roger's Rabbit girlfriend? Don't tell me that her boobs need to be that big for the kids.


I never saw who framed roger rabbit as a kids movie...
Katganistan
12-08-2006, 00:33
Um yeah, shocked the hell outta me. I asked him how did you hear that?


Apparently, he only thought he did:

http://snopes.com/disney/films/donald.htm
JuNii
12-08-2006, 00:34
This is not sexual related, but I have heard Donald Duck call Daffy a ****** in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." As for adult themes, comon, what about Roger's Rabbit girlfriend? Don't tell me that her boobs need to be that big for the kids.
*snicker* well, it depends on how thirs... nevermind...


and remember her quote. "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way."
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:34
Do you even know what the N word is? I have a feeling you may be on a different page than me.

Nitwit

http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/donald.htm
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:34
Ahh... so you don't actually know they heard those words in the movie. it could be that they overheard it somewhere else and just said some movie... ;)

No, he heard it the movie. I then watched it over again and caught it. So he heard it in the movie.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:35
Do you even know what the N word is? I have a feeling you may be on a different page than me.
I do know what the "n" word is. I don't have a problem discussing with my children what it is, and why it's unacceptable to say it

seriously what am I supposed to do? lock them in a box?
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 00:35
http://snopes.com/disney/films/donald.htm

*shakes fist at beating me to it*
Wilgrove
12-08-2006, 00:36
I do know what the "n" word is. I don't have a problem discussing with my children what it is, and why it's unacceptable to say it

seriously what am I supposed to do? lock them in a box?

I would also teach them that blacks who do use the word ****** are idiots and should be treated as such.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:37
Apparently, he only thought he did:

http://snopes.com/disney/films/donald.htm


It does sound like ******.
Wilgrove
12-08-2006, 00:38
It does sound like ******.

Yea it sounds like "You God Damn ******..."
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:39
Yea it sounds like "You God Damn ******..."


See, I am not alone.:D
Sarkhaan
12-08-2006, 00:40
seriously, most of these are bull.

as kat mentioned, just look here:
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp?music=off

You mean a giant spire that is supposed to look like ocean-beaten rock is rounded and appeares to be a giant cock? Heaven forbid. Look at the rest of the spires and towers. they all look phallic. So does a banana. Let's not let kids look at bananas because they're pornographic:rolleyes:

fact of the matter is, most of these "issues" are created in the minds of a bunch of sexually repressed people looking for something to bitch about. The ones that are intentional jokes fly way over the heads of the little ones. Smunkee mentioned Mr. Potato Head in Toy Story...I was dying, my little cousin just didn't get it.

It isn't porn, so get off that whole concept. Its a joke. Go watch Rockos Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy or Rocky and Bullwinkle, and you will find tons of "dirty jokes" that you never noticed. To understand a joke, you have to be "in" on it.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:41
I do know what the "n" word is. I don't have a problem discussing with my children what it is, and why it's unacceptable to say it

seriously what am I supposed to do? lock them in a box?



I won't get into parenting styles with you. I don't support kids being subjected to adult material and you do support it.....Lets just leave it at that.
Essell
12-08-2006, 00:41
The Master (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdisneyperv.html) speaks.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:43
seriously, most of these are bull.

as kat mentioned, just look here:
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp?music=off

You mean a giant spire that is supposed to look like ocean-beaten rock is rounded and appeares to be a giant cock? Heaven forbid. Look at the rest of the spires and towers. they all look phallic. So does a banana. Let's not let kids look at bananas because they're pornographic:rolleyes:

fact of the matter is, most of these "issues" are created in the minds of a bunch of sexually repressed people looking for something to bitch about. The ones that are intentional jokes fly way over the heads of the little ones. Smunkee mentioned Mr. Potato Head in Toy Story...I was dying, my little cousin just didn't get it.

It isn't porn, so get off that whole concept. Its a joke. Go watch Rockos Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy or Rocky and Bullwinkle, and you will find tons of "dirty jokes" that you never noticed. To understand a joke, you have to be "in" on it.


I rarely ever catch this stuff, I just don't look to deep into to notice. I never saw toy story and neither has either of my nephews.


I still watch rocko and ren and stimpy.....Thats a whole nother thread.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:44
I won't get into parenting styles with you. I don't support kids being subjected to adult material and you do support it.....Lets just leave it at that.
is this one of those "forbidden knowledge" type of things?

If my kid is old enough to ask a question, she is old enough to get an answer. I don't set her down in front of hard core porn, I am pretty restrictive with what she does watch, but I don't see the huge problem with talking to your kid about words that you would rather them not use and why, or explaining human anatomy to them..........I don't get it, I really don't.

Can you define "adult material"? I am curious.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:44
The Master (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdisneyperv.html) speaks.



I posted that in the first post.
Sarkhaan
12-08-2006, 00:46
It does sound like ******.
"sounds like" isn't Disney corrupting the minds of our youth.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:46
is this one of those "forbidden knowledge" type of things?

If my kid is old enough to ask a question, she is old enough to get an answer. I don't set her down in front of hard core porn, I am pretty restrictive with what she does watch, but I don't see the huge problem with talking to your kid about words that you would rather them not use and why, or explaining human anatomy to them..........I don't get it, I really don't.

Can you define "adult material"? I am curious.



Nope, Its just that the odds are neither of us are going to agree so why continue?


Questions........God I hate when kids asks questions.....My nephews are full of them and its a pain to answer...Lucky they have mothers.....
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:47
"sounds like" isn't Disney corrupting the minds of our youth.



Are you serious?
Rasselas
12-08-2006, 00:47
I won't get into parenting styles with you. I don't support kids being subjected to adult material and you do support it.....Lets just leave it at that.
They're not being subjected to it if they don't even know its there. Ok, they might pick up on the odd rude word or gesture, but if they're old enough to notice it, they're old enough to have a discussion with you about it.

If you have kids of your own, what are you going to do when they come home from school and ask you a question about the 'n' word or about sex? Lock them up in a room and not let them out til they're 18?
Nureonia
12-08-2006, 00:47
How has this gone on for three pages?

(And I have 40 posts per page.)
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:48
Nope, Its just that the odds are neither of us are going to agree so why continue?
I would like to find some common ground. What is adult material?


Questions........God I hate when kids asks questions.....My nephews are full of them and its a pain to answer...Lucky they have mothers.....
I love questions, and I love being able to answer them, if I don't know the answer then it's even more fun to learn together what the answer is.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:50
They're not being subjected to it if they don't even know its there. Ok, they might pick up on the odd rude word or gesture, but if they're old enough to notice it, they're old enough to have a discussion with you about it.

If you have kids of your own, what are you going to do when they come home from school and ask you a question about the 'n' word or about sex? Lock them up in a room and not let them out til they're 18?


Works for me! LOL LOL LOL!! Lock them in a cage and hand out 40 lashes for looking at anything cockeyed! http://forums.site5.com/images/smilies/roflmao.gif


Seriously, I hate kids. Really I do.
Wilgrove
12-08-2006, 00:51
Works for me! LOL LOL LOL!! Lock them in a cage and hand out 40 lashes for looking at anything cockeyed! http://forums.site5.com/images/smilies/roflmao.gif


Seriously, I hate kids. Really I do.

Eh kids are for losers anyways. Yay having more money in my wallet!
Sarkhaan
12-08-2006, 00:52
Are you serious?
yes.

Lets look at the Alladin one. Alladin says "Good kitty, take off and go". Some people have heard it as "Good kids, take off your clothes". Disney didn't do anything wrong. They put noting inappropriate in. It is the fault of someone with a perverted mind or the power of suggestion playing in...mostly power of suggestion.

Ergo, if Disney puts something in that "sounds like" something else, but isn't, it is the fault of the viewer and their own issues. Disney didn't put it in.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:54
I would like to find some common ground. What is adult material?


Sex, Nudity, Extreme Violence, Swearing. My 7 year old nephew likes violence too much as it is and he is becoming harder to control.



I love questions, and I love being able to answer them, if I don't know the answer then it's even more fun to learn together what the answer is.


If I can't answer I say, shut up and go ask your mother. :upyours:
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Seriouslt, My nephew knows how to flip people off....Because I taught him.Don't ask me why.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:55
yes.

Lets look at the Alladin one. Alladin says "Good kitty, take off and go". Some people have heard it as "Good kids, take off your clothes". Disney didn't do anything wrong. They put noting inappropriate in. It is the fault of someone with a perverted mind or the power of suggestion playing in...mostly power of suggestion.

Ergo, if Disney puts something in that "sounds like" something else, but isn't, it is the fault of the viewer and their own issues. Disney didn't put it in.



Oh, I thought you meant something else.
Nureonia
12-08-2006, 00:56
Sex, Nudity, Extreme Violence, Swearing. My 7 year old nephew likes violence too much as it is and he is becoming harder to control.






If I can't answer I say, shut up and go ask your mother. :upyours:
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Seriouslt, My nephew knows how to flip people off....Because I taught him.Don't ask me why.

Wait, wait.

You bitch about kids being exposed to "Sex, Nudity, Extreme Violence, Swearing"...

Yet you taught your own nephew how to flip people off. My hypocrisy sensor is BLARING. I'm pretty much done taking you seriously. :rolleyes:
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 00:57
Wait, wait.

You bitch about kids being exposed to "Sex, Nudity, Extreme Violence, Swearing"...

Yet you taught your own nephew how to flip people off. My hypocrisy sensor is BLARING. I'm pretty much done taking you seriously. :rolleyes:


Oh knock it off. It was one time and I didn't even use the finger.:rolleyes:
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 00:57
Sex, Nudity, Extreme Violence, Swearing. My 7 year old nephew likes violence too much as it is and he is becoming harder to control.
sex- as in people actually having sex, as in hard core porn.......no I don't want my kids seeing that

extreme violence- terrorist beheading videos? not showing them to my kids either, however Spiderman violence? not really bothering me

swearing- it's subjective. It doesn't bother me most of the time, my kids know what's acceptable around here, and the fact that other people just aren't very "nice" sometimes.

btw, you shouldn't be trying to control a child, you should be teaching them self control






If I can't answer I say, shut up and go ask your mother. :upyours:
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Seriouslt, My nephew knows how to flip people off....Because I taught him.Don't ask me why.
so you have a problem with him hearing the "n" word, but you teach him rude gestures.........nice:rolleyes:
Rasselas
12-08-2006, 00:59
Rrright...so you have a problem with adult jokes in kids movies...and yet you hate kids? So why do you care?
Nureonia
12-08-2006, 01:00
Oh knock it off. It was one time and I didn't even use the finger.:rolleyes:

Knock it off? You're causing the problem you're bitching about. You're the one who should stop being so blatantly hypocritical.

If he learned it from you, it's your fault. It doesn't matter that it was "one time".

:rolleyes:

EDIT: What's really making me giggle is that when I read threads, I tend to disagree with Smunkee. A lot. But I'm agreeing here. :confused:
Keruvalia
12-08-2006, 01:00
Eh kids are for losers anyways.

For the first time in my NS General posting career, I shall now use this smiley:

:upyours:

That's all I have to say about that.

:p
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 01:02
sex- as in people actually having sex, as in hard core porn.......no I don't want my kids seeing that

extreme violence- terrorist beheading videos? not showing them to my kids either, however Spiderman violence? not really bothering me

swearing- it's subjective. It doesn't bother me most of the time, my kids know what's acceptable around here, and the fact that other people just aren't very "nice" sometimes.

btw, you shouldn't be trying to control a child, you should be teaching them self control


I rather kids not see nudity for a while. Spiderman violence? Thats just cartoon violence and is harmless most of the time.

Excuse me, not your kid! He doesn't listen, gotta tell him everything 5 times before he does it.






so you have a problem with him hearing the "n" word, but you teach him rude gestures.........nice:rolleyes:

I really shouldn't have done it, I told him not to copy it and he never did. Lucky me.
Daistallia 2104
12-08-2006, 01:02
Suiko, check the whole snopes page on this and other Disney film urban legends.
http://snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp

Most of these (including the Daffy/Donald scene) are simply the power of suggestion.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit has some, err, ambiguous scenes, particularly the questionable scene in which Jessica Rabbit may or may not have been shown sans panties. But then again, it was a Touchstone Pictures release, and they deal with much more adult themed movies.

The only one that actually is true is that there's a photo of a topless woman in The Resuers. And then it's only in two frames, so that you have to freeze frame to actually see it.

http://snopes.com/disney/films/rescuers.htm

Some of them do, like the little mermaid castles whose towers clearly resemble *ahem*, the artist claims it was a practical joke that was never meant to make it to final production. The Lion King stardust spelling "Sex" was snoped to reveal that is actually spelled SFX, the sound company working on the project.

The Little Mermaid tower was Snoped as false as well.
http://snopes.com/disney/films/mermaid.htm
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 01:03
EDIT: What's really making me giggle is that when I read threads, I tend to disagree with Smunkee. A lot. But I'm agreeing here. :confused:

it's not often that someone just really disagrees with me all the time. :p It's normal to agree with me on at least one thing, everyone does. ;)
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 01:04
Rrright...so you have a problem with adult jokes in kids movies...and yet you hate kids? So why do you care?


They are the future..I just wish they weren't.
Nureonia
12-08-2006, 01:04
I rather kids not see nudity for a while. Spiderman violence? Thats just cartoon violence and is harmless most of the time.

Excuse me, not your kid! He doesn't listen, gotta tell him everything 5 times before he does it.

I really shouldn't have done it, I told him not to copy it and he never did. Lucky me.

Wait. So the human form, which is perfectly natural, is off limits, but violence is a-okay?

:confused:

That's... just brilliant...
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 01:06
I rather kids not see nudity for a while.
do you propose to blindfold them for baths and duct tape their clothes to them?

Spiderman violence? Thats just cartoon violence and is harmless most of the time.
and the Disney movies you brought up weren't cartoons?

Excuse me, not your kid! He doesn't listen, gotta tell him everything 5 times before he does it.
are you sure that he is listening the first time?



I really shouldn't have done it, I told him not to copy it and he never did. Lucky me.
he will, or has. Children learn most by what you do, you have to model the behavior you expect.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 01:09
do you propose to blindfold them for baths and duct tape their clothes to them?

Thats not what I mean.


and the Disney movies you brought up weren't cartoons?

They weren't violent either.


are you sure that he is listening the first time?

Yes.




he will, or has. Children learn most by what you do, you have to model the behavior you expect.


I am no role model.
Nureonia
12-08-2006, 01:09
do you propose to blindfold them for baths and duct tape their clothes to them?

Of course. Heaven forbid they realize they have body parts that they cover up. :rolleyes:

Clothes are their skin!

I am no role model.

That's been made abundantly clear. :rolleyes:

So what constitutes 'bad' nudity as opposed to 'good' nudity?
Rasselas
12-08-2006, 01:12
I am no role model.
Yes, you are. Whether you choose to be or not. If that kid looks up to you, he'll copy you.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 01:14
Thats not what I mean.
what do you mean?




They weren't violent either.
Aladdin, Lion King, Roger Rabbit....all violent.



Yes
then are you sure that you were clear in your request?


I am no role model.
if you are around a child for any amount of time at all you are a role model, studies have shown that children learn more about social norms, manners, and all that good stuff from the people they are around (namely their family) than they do from movies, music and books. If you are so worried about how your nephew is growing up, the first thing you need to do is take responsibility for your own actions.
The Aeson
12-08-2006, 01:16
I posted that in the first post.

Question is, did you read it?
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 01:16
what do you mean?

Nudity on television and most of all adult nudity.





Aladdin, Lion King, Roger Rabbit....all violent.

Meh, Not too bad.




then are you sure that you were clear in your request?

Very clear. He just questions everything.



if you are around a child for any amount of time at all you are a role model, studies have shown that children learn more about social norms, manners, and all that good stuff from the people they are around (namely their family) than they do from movies, music and books. If you are so worried about how your nephew is growing up, the first thing you need to do is take responsibility for your own actions.


I usallly do, I just don't like to.
The Aeson
12-08-2006, 01:19
Meh, Not too bad.


A guard threatening to take Aladdin's hand as a trophy? Sentient animals eating each other? Haven't watched Roger Rabbit in a long time. Can't talk about it.
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 01:20
Nudity on television and most of all adult nudity.
ah, there isn't much nudity on TV here, so I don't have to deal with that.


Meh, Not too bad.
pretty bad, Lion King shows the murder of Mufasa, don't even get me started on Roger Rabbit and the acid, and the guns, and the fist fights.


Very clear. He just questions everything.
then he has an independent streak, use it to your advantage.

I usallly do, I just don't like to.
then don't hang out with the kid. I don't let poor role models spend any more time with my kids then I have to.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 01:21
A guard threatening to take Aladdin's hand as a trophy? Sentient animals eating each other? Haven't watched Roger Rabbit in a long time. Can't talk about it.



BloodLust aeson. :mp5:
The Aeson
12-08-2006, 01:22
BloodLust aeson. :mp5:

Roger Rabbit went into bloodlust? It wasn't that long ago that I saw it.

Ain't it ironic how suddenly you're defending Disney, and I'm attacking them?
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 01:23
Roger Rabbit went into bloodlust? It wasn't that long ago that I saw it.

Ain't it ironic how suddenly you're defending Disney, and I'm attacking them?


No I hate disney and I was saying I HAVE bloodlust.
The Aeson
12-08-2006, 01:29
No I hate disney and I was saying I HAVE bloodlust.

Well, I would advise you to go find an axe-wielding Viking. It's always wise ot have a bloodlust buddy, so they can stop you from gnawing on someone in armor, for example.

Remember kids, never slaughter, without your buddy.
Neo Kervoskia
12-08-2006, 01:30
I wonder what Jesussaves would say.
JuNii
12-08-2006, 02:15
Well, I would advise you to go find an axe-wielding Viking. It's always wise ot have a bloodlust buddy, so they can stop you from gnawing on someone in armor, for example.

Remember kids, never slaughter, without your buddy.
why am I picturing this as ES's bludlust buddy...
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/01/31/bugs_narrowweb__200x253.jpg
Not bad
12-08-2006, 02:26
Disney's Pinocchio.

Sometimes a nose is just a nose

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6803/pinocchiosy1.jpg
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 02:28
why am I picturing this as ES's bludlust buddy...
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/01/31/bugs_narrowweb__200x253.jpg



I love elmer! Looney Tunes are soo much better than disney crap!
Smunkeeville
12-08-2006, 02:31
I love elmer! Looney Tunes are soo much better than disney crap!
have you watched Looney Tunes? like really watched it? the old ones have more sex and violence than any Disney movie. They weren't even meant for kids, they were made for adults, surely you wouldn't let your nephew watch them?
Free shepmagans
12-08-2006, 02:33
Kids need sex and violence, builds character.:)
JuNii
12-08-2006, 02:34
have you watched Looney Tunes? like really watched it? the old ones have more sex and violence than any Disney movie. They weren't even meant for kids, they were made for adults, surely you wouldn't let your nephew watch them?
and popeye, Betty Boop, and all those other classics... all for adults, and not for kids.

after all, kids were not supposed to be watching TV, but playing outside.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 02:35
have you watched Looney Tunes? like really watched it? the old ones have more sex and violence than any Disney movie. They weren't even meant for kids, they were made for adults, surely you wouldn't let your nephew watch them?


Don't diss da wabbit!


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/beachbum0723/Picture165.jpg
Hamilay
12-08-2006, 02:35
Don't diss da wabbit!


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/beachbum0723/Picture165.jpg
Why has he only got one arm?
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 02:36
Kids need sex and violence, builds character.:)



You need help...
Free shepmagans
12-08-2006, 02:36
Don't diss da wabbit!
There are no words for how much you rule.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 02:37
Why has he only got one arm?


He has 2, one is in the air and the other is at his crotch.
JuNii
12-08-2006, 02:37
Why has he only got one arm?
he's got two... can't really make out what he's doing with the second arm... pulling a "Michael Jackson" maybe?
Katganistan
12-08-2006, 02:38
*shakes fist at beating me to it*
What can I tell you? The big bad nasty mod and teacher is a Disney junkie.


And the Snopes site rocks. :)
Free shepmagans
12-08-2006, 02:38
You need help...
... And? ;) I knew how sex worked at six. Blame AOL and PBS.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 02:38
There are no words for how much you rule.



Awwwww.:fluffle:
Hamilay
12-08-2006, 02:38
He has 2, one is in the air and the other is at his crotch.
he's got two... can't really make out what he's doing with the second arm... pulling a "Michael Jackson" maybe?
teh lol
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 02:39
he's got two... can't really make out what he's doing with the second arm... pulling a "Michael Jackson" maybe?



He is, one maaaaaadddd bunny!
JuNii
12-08-2006, 02:41
He is, one maaaaaadddd bunny!
as long as he isn't singing "the way you make me feel" or "Dirty Diana"
Secret aj man
12-08-2006, 02:41
Do Disney movies contain subliminal erotica? Disney (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdisneyperv.html)


I have to know. I think its just some people looking too deep into things and seeing and hearing stuff that isn't really there for the most part. Unless I see video proof.

i voted yes..cause when my kids were wee ones..i took them to see alladin i recall,and she (the "star") was quite shapely for a cartoon.

as i am not usually interested in cartoons,especially then,it at least kept me hoping for a janet jackson moment..ie..tittie slip...lol

j/k but the female character in that movie was very,shall we say..built!

maybe they do it for the bored out of their mind,divorced dads taking the kids to a movie.
JuNii
12-08-2006, 02:44
Hey Empress, did you check out the new Bunny in town?

http://www.mediaweek.com/mediaweek/photos/Showshots/Loonatics_Unleashed.jpg
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 02:49
Hey Empress, did you check out the new Bunny in town?

http://www.mediaweek.com/mediaweek/photos/Showshots/Loonatics_Unleashed.jpg


I hate dat wabbit, give me the classic wabbit!
VampKyrie
12-08-2006, 02:56
Do Disney movies contain subliminal erotica? Disney (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mdisneyperv.html)


I have to know. I think its just some people looking too deep into things and seeing and hearing stuff that isn't really there for the most part. Unless I see video proof.

I'm not sure, but if you want to twist them....Disney has it in for family values. Bambi's mom isn't married. You never see Dumbo's dad. Snow White lives with seven men. It just goes on.....Tragic.
Anti-Social Darwinism
12-08-2006, 02:59
Well, I'm just guessing, but I'd say that one with the animals and the pizza. If I'm not mistaken, there's a male cow with udders.

A male cow? No bull?
Big Jim P
12-08-2006, 03:30
A male cow? No bull?

That was udderly wrong.
Empress_Suiko
12-08-2006, 03:35
That was udderly wrong.


BOOOOOO!!!!! Die bad joke Die! :sniper:
VampKyrie
13-08-2006, 00:44
Newsflash: Sex creates families.


Damn! No wonder I have kids!
Anti-Social Darwinism
13-08-2006, 03:07
If you want something to have an erotic subtext, it will.

I don't consider that my mind is any more in the gutter than anyone else's (which on NS leaves plenty of leeway), but I remember listening to a couple of hymns (when I was a churchgoer) that gave me some second thoughts. One was "O come thou fount of every blessing" and the other had a line in it about an "Ebenezer rising", I found them both erotic and hilarious (given the context) and could barely contain my laughter.