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will this latest national security threat help the republicans maintain their grasp on power?

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I sincerely hope not.

Unlikely. It happened outside the US, and will be forgotten within a month.

Unlikely. It happened outside the US, and will be forgotten within a month.

Oh be fair, we forget about these types of arrest in the US within a month also.

will this latest national security threat help the republicans maintain their grasp on power?

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Well, it's a clear piece of evidence that their policies are a failure. It was police that foiled this attempt, and the contention of the Bush administration all along as been that they "corrected the failed policy of the Clinton administration of treating terrorism as a criminal problem." It proves that they were wrong. Clinton treated it as a criminal problem and after the first one, he foiled every terrorism attempt on his watch. Bush treats it as a military problem and there are new terrorist bombings everyday.

As long as the Dems point this out they're sure to score points from it. Of course, no one is as good at serving dogshit for dinner and getting everyone to call it caviar as the Republicans.

Well, it's a clear piece of evidence that their policies are a failure. It was police that foiled this attempt, and the contention of the Bush administration all along as been that they "corrected the failed policy of the Clinton administration of treating terrorism as a criminal problem." It proves that they were wrong. Clinton treated it as a criminal problem and after the first one, he foiled every terrorism attempt on his watch. Bush treats it as a military problem and there are new terrorist bombings everyday.

As long as the Dems point this out they're sure to score points from it. Of course, no one is as good at serving dogshit for dinner and getting everyone to call it caviar as the Republicans.

I thought it was MI5 the NSA and pakistan's SIS that broke this, not the police.

I thought it was MI5 the NSA and pakistan's SIS that broke this, not the police.
Well it sure wasn't foiled by an army on foreign soil.

Nor were the suspects foreigners.

I thought it was MI5 the NSA and pakistan's SIS that broke this, not the police.

NSA had a very small involvement, i never heard about pakistans secret service being involved, but it was mainly Mi5 and some elite police forces. However it was the police who carried out the raids.

I hope it doesnt, but Im afraid it will. :mad:

Well it sure wasn't foiled by an army on foreign soil.

Nor were the suspects foreigners.

Yes, but it wasn't foiled by the police either. It's disingenuous to suggest that it was a product of traditional law enforcement approaches.

Yes, but it wasn't foiled by the police either. It's disingenuous to suggest that it was a product of traditional law enforcement approaches.

Whats your point?

NSA had a very small involvement, i never heard about pakistans secret service being involved, but it was mainly Mi5 and some elite police forces. However it was the police who carried out the raids.

All the police did was carry out the raids. Mi5, NSA, and PSIS did the leg work.

now would not be a good idea to invest in Shampoo!

now would not be a good idea to invest in Shampoo!

Or cell phones.

will this latest national security threat help the republicans maintain their grasp on power?

It might have some small effect on the mid-terms in November, but no, it won't effect the '08 cycle.

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NSA had a very small involvement, i never heard about pakistans secret service being involved, but it was mainly Mi5 and some elite police forces. However it was the police who carried out the raids.

Yes, the Pakistani intelligence service was instrumental.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2306811,00.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1882607.cms

I was going to say please pay more attention to non-US news sources, until I noted your location. ;) But they carried this as well. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060810/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_britain_terror_plot

Maybe a little. However I don't really see anything really effecting the outcome of the elections that much.

Nope.

Foreign news with a lack of US casualties is like old newspapers.
Used only for wrapping fish and chips.
And there aren't many chippies in the USA.

All the police did was carry out the raids. Mi5, NSA, and PSIS did the leg work.

To be fair, it had to be the police doing the raiding. MI5 have no powers of arrest above that of a citizens arrest.

Maybe a little. However I don't really see anything really effecting the outcome of the elections that much.
Anything? What will affect them then? Why do Americans vote as they do if not according to current events?

Anything the terrorist do in any part of the world kills the democrats chances .

They are seen as white flag waving , cut and run , cowardly surrender monkeys . so if you are worried about terrorism ..you are concerned about democrats actually being elected..rather than providing us with amusement .

I sincerly doubt that most Americans consider the Democrats a great party for national security...:D

The party of the kool aid drinking Cindy Sheehans ??? Nuh Uh ,,,no way ..
Dems are good for Myrth..I mean Clinton was the man for myrth,,plus he made getting blow jobs a national pastime ! clinton was a GUY ...but he ran away from Somalia and bombed an asprin factory and let Osama go crazy ,
Part of the reason the 2000 elections were even close was the fact that Gore was not exactly seen as a national security type .

Doesn't matter if it is Democrat or Republican They all play by the same rules, they are all Skull and Bones. Clinton had his night in the Terror spotlight with the 1993 WTC bombings (which failed). As I see it, Republicans are jsut a bit better at pulling of a staged terror attack if I ever saw one. And Yes, Republicans will 'win' the white house every time with terror. Their chances skyrocket. it is why (and mark my words) I fully expect a terror attack in the US or UK by November... to effect the upcomming elections in the Republican favour.

will this latest national security threat help the republicans maintain their grasp on power?

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(sorry for all typos >_<)

Maybe in 06 but not in 08.

Clinton treated it as a criminal problem and after the first one, he foiled every terrorism attempt on his watch.

What you smoking boy?

Doesn't matter if it is Democrat or Republican They all play by the same rules, they are all Skull and Bones. Clinton had his night in the Terror spotlight with the 1993 WTC bombings (which failed). As I see it, Republicans are jsut a bit better at pulling of a staged terror attack if I ever saw one. And Yes, Republicans will 'win' the white house every time with terror. Their chances skyrocket. it is why (and mark my words) I fully expect a terror attack in the US or UK by November... to effect the upcomming elections in the Republican favour.

:rolleyes:

Well the attack was planned for next Wednesday and apparently their could still be 10 more people out there. Unless something will happens then it won't help the Republicans.



Don't know if this has been discussed as I haven't been on NS since last week, but omg the way the Secretary of Homeland Security and his co horts carried on that press conference on Thursday? You'd swear it was them who stopped the whole thing. It really got to me.

Anything? What will affect them then? Why do Americans vote as they do if not according to current events?

They vote according to fairy tales and mythology. e.g. "Democrats are all a bunch of wine swilling America haters." Or, "only lazy fatasses who want something for nothing support unions."

Current events mean nothing in American politics except as framework for those fairy tales. Studies have shown that people who watch "The Daily Show," are more well informed than people who watch network news, and people who watch FOX news are less well informed than people who watch no news at all.