NationStates Jolt Archive

Is there anyway to get the old version? I hate this new Live crap. Why is everyone changing? AIM, MSN, Yahoo's home page? They make everything so bleh. :confused:

http://www.old-versions.net/

Good to see I'm not the only one who couldn't get used to that new interface with MSN Live and AIM Triton.

Anyway, I found the version before MSN Live on Microsoft's website, amazingly enough.

I don't think the interface is all that much changed from 7.5...

I have AIM. I don't use it much, but I do have it :)

Aaaah the joys of owning a Mac :) I may not be able to do webcams, voice clips or nudges, but in the end, who really needs that?

Besides, if I want that and more, I'll just use iChat.

I just got a replacement for my old computer(screen cracked) and it had the old versions...I also lost my favorites. :'( Forgot to save them.

I just use gaim ... guess it is the *nix geek in me

I just use gaim ... guess it is the *nix geek in me

Its windows port is not as stellar as its native *nix version, unfortunately.

Its windows port is not as stellar as its native *nix version, unfortunately.
Not quite but I have not had overly bad things to say about it ... Not quite as good but it is still fairly young in comparison, the latest version had some of the bugs fixed and some cool extentions

As long as its functional I don't really much care what it looks like. Plus it's not really that different.

Once that's been said, I still use Trillian more.

Aaaah the joys of owning a Mac :) I may not be able to do webcams, voice clips or nudges, but in the end, who really needs that?

Besides, if I want that and more, I'll just use iChat.
Hey! Nudges are the best thing in the world!

Not quite but I have not had overly bad things to say about it ... Not quite as good but it is still fairly young in comparison, the latest version had some of the bugs fixed and some cool extentions

File transfer is still a mess, and uPnP is non-existent. For the MSN protocol that is basically a death knell, seeing as it is so dependent on it for proper router coexistence.

Hey! Nudges are the best thing in the world!

Nudges are a crime against God and man and we both know it. The only possible use they have is to irritate people who deserve irritating.

File transfer is still a mess, and uPnP is non-existent. For the MSN protocol, that is basically a death-knell, seeing as it is so dependent on it for proper router coexistence.
I agree but it has been solid for what I use it for and it is more for comfort ... I am rarly on my windows box at all anyways

I agree but it has been solid for what I use it for and it is more for comfort ... I am rarly on my windows box at all anyways

MSN being basically popular instead of unknown like Jabber means non-techy people are going to be using it. That means most people. Telling them "No, I can't accept your file... no, I can't talk to you... no, I can't do any of that" is, well, alienating as most of those non-techy people make heavy use of those features.

MSN being basically popular instead of unknown like Jabber means non-techy people are going to be using it. That means most people. Telling them "No, I can't accept your file... no, I can't talk to you... no, I can't do any of that" is, well, alienating as most of those non-techy people make heavy use of those features.
Fair enough ... so you have any *nix prefference besides gaim?

Fair enough ... so you have any *nix prefference besides gaim?

For MSN? aMSN. Once properly compiled to support AA, it's pretty neat and actually has working file transfers with a little help. ;)

*nix in general? Ubuntu for regular-use desktops, Gentoo for "fun."

For MSN? aMSN. Once properly compiled to support AA, it's pretty neat and actually has working file transfers with a little help. ;)

*nix in general? Ubuntu for regular-use desktops, Gentoo for "fun."
Ahhh had played around with aMSN just never got real used to it

General*nix prefference here is Ubuntu for desktops FreeBSD for servers and Gentoo for the tough boxes (we had a few octane machines that we needed some of the flexability for)

General*nix prefference here is Ubuntu for desktops...

Tangent: Before Ubuntu I loathed and despised Gnome. Now, I can't stand KDE and Qt. Oh, why can't someone make an Amarog? :\

Tangent: Before Ubuntu I loathed and despised Gnome. Now, I can't stand KDE and Qt. Oh, why can't someone make an Amarog? :\
I preffer XFCE but same here I used to be a KDE fan and switched to more of a GNOME fan if I have to use thoes hogs

I preffer XFCE but same here I used to be a KDE fan and switched to more of a GNOME fan if I have to use thoes hogs

XFCE for me is ugliness. Sorry. :P

XFCE for me is ugliness. Sorry. :P
Aww comeon

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/newxfce.jpg

I just got used to it when running on ... marginal machines that need a light WM and I dont like Fluxbox

Aww comeon
http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/newxfce.jpg
I just got used to it when running on ... marginal machines that need a light WM and I dont like Fluxbox

Hah, you can't fool me with a pretty background pic. Open a few windows, the file manager, some settings dialogues. Then we'll talk ugly widgets and horrible icons and loony separators. :D

Hah, you can't fool me with a pretty background pic. Open a few windows, the file manager, some settings dialogues. Then we'll talk ugly widgets and horrible icons and loony separators. :D

If that really bothered you it uses GTK themes :) hehehe

If that really bothered you it uses GTK themes :) hehehe

Oh, it abuses them (http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/snap_VI.jpg) is more like it. No matter what you do, they end up looking cramped and the XFCE apps are the worst in having what I call "windows 3.11-itis." (http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/snap_VII.jpg)

Oh, it abuses them (http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/snap_VI.jpg) is more like it. No matter what you do, they end up looking cramped and the XFCE apps are the worst in having what I call "windows 3.11-itis." (http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/snap_VII.jpg)
Remember that I only use these where performance is an issue otherwise I stick with gnome lol

Remember that I only use these where performance is an issue otherwise I stick with gnome lol

You're so bad at DM-zealot wars, you know that?

You're so bad at DM-zealot wars, you know that?
:) lol yeah well the only one I activly dislike is Flux it pissees me off every time I use it

XFCE may not be the pretiest but it is at least inutitivly functional to me

:) lol yeah well the only one I activly dislike is Flux it pissees me off every time I use it

I feel the same way about Evolution. It's the pits.

XFCE may not be the pretiest but it is at least inutitivly functional to me

Console, anyone? :p