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Stewart/Colbert 2008?

Kapsilan
10-08-2006, 03:34
I saw a bumper sticker today that said "Stewart/Colbert 2008". I thought it was pretty funny. Then I started thinking about it. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are really popular and respected figures in the media, those who watch their shows are generally more well aware about current events and politics than those who don't. They have gotten a lot of young people interested in both politics and voting, and they could get out the young vote more than any candidates before them, and probably more than any candidates after them could ever, just by having their names on the ballot.

Should they run? What would four years of the Stewart administration be like?
Wilgrove
10-08-2006, 03:37
I saw a bumper sticker today that said "Stewart/Colbert 2008". I thought it was pretty funny. Then I started thinking about it. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are really popular and respected figures in the media, those who watch their shows are generally more well aware about current events and politics than those who don't. They have gotten a lot of young people interested in both politics and voting, and they could get out the young vote more than any candidates before them, and probably more than any candidates after them could ever, just by having their names on the ballot.

Should they run? What would four years of the Stewart administration be like?

Just because you like them on TV doesn't mean they'll be good politicans.
Kroisistan
10-08-2006, 03:43
Just because you like them on TV doesn't mean they'll be good politicans.

I disagree. I think we all fondly remember President Macguyver. He's the kind of President I was proud to salute - the kind who could eliminate the national debt with a rubber band, a pair of nailclippers and a piece of chewing gum.:p
Empress_Suiko
10-08-2006, 03:44
I saw a bumper sticker today that said "Stewart/Colbert 2008". I thought it was pretty funny. Then I started thinking about it. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are really popular and respected figures in the media, those who watch their shows are generally more well aware about current events and politics than those who don't. They have gotten a lot of young people interested in both politics and voting, and they could get out the young vote more than any candidates before them, and probably more than any candidates after them could ever, just by having their names on the ballot.

Should they run? What would four years of the Stewart administration be like?


The fact those two are respected by anybody embarasses me.
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 03:45
Just because you like them on TV doesn't mean they'll be good politicans.

Reagan made it, didn't he?
Empress_Suiko
10-08-2006, 03:45
Reagan made it, didn't he?



LMFAO!!!! You think he was a GOOD president?
Kapsilan
10-08-2006, 03:48
Just because you like them on TV doesn't mean they'll be good politicans.
I never said they would be. Hell, that might even be better. The first President of the Czech Republic was a poet. Remember what daddy Washington said, "Politicians ruin government."
Wilgrove
10-08-2006, 03:52
Reagan made it, didn't he?

Yea, but he had years of political experience. John and Steven would have to start out small like Reagan did.
New Sans
10-08-2006, 03:54
If Robin Williams could do it so could they......or wait is that an upcomming movie and not politics...meh they're close enough.
McKagan
10-08-2006, 03:54
I actually, truly think that Stewart could run. He has some REALLY good ideas if you ever listen to him when he's serious.

Colbert... I don't know enough about him.
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 03:55
Yea, but he had years of political experience. John and Steven would have to start out small like Reagan did.

*shrug* So it won't be '08. How's '28 looking?
Teh_pantless_hero
10-08-2006, 03:55
Just because you like them on TV doesn't mean they'll be good politicans.
Just because people are politicians doesn't mean they will be good politicians. Politicians generally know shit about shit anyway, they arn't selected from highly talented pools of people who know alot about government and their role in it.
Wilgrove
10-08-2006, 03:56
Just because people are politicians doesn't mean they will be good politicians. Politicians generally know shit about shit anyway, they arn't selected from highly talented pools of people who know alot about government and their role in it.

Apparently they know enough of it to get elected.
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 03:58
Apparently they know enough of it to get elected.

You don't really need to know much to get elected. Not here anyways.
Kapsilan
10-08-2006, 03:59
Apparently they know enough of it to get elected.
No, they just know how to convince enough people to vote for them.
Cannot think of a name
10-08-2006, 04:02
The satirists shouldn't become the leaders, they should be the statirists. That is an important function, you shouldn't Peter Principle them out of something when they're already doing a service well.
Teh_pantless_hero
10-08-2006, 04:29
Apparently they know enough of it to get elected.
The only people that know less about anything than politicians arethose that elect them. And you think they get elected for knowing anything? No. They get elected for defaming their opponent and making empty promises.
United Chicken Kleptos
10-08-2006, 04:32
The only people that know less about anything than politicians arethose that elect them. And you think they get elected for knowing anything? No. They get elected for defaming their opponent and making empty promises.

Lets face it: politicians are dirty lying bastards who you would run over if the chance came along. Now does that sound like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert?
Zamnitia
10-08-2006, 04:34
Instead how about Lewis Black and John Stewart?

Black would of course be the President.
Iztatepopotla
10-08-2006, 04:41
Just because you like them on TV doesn't mean they'll be good politicans.
Politics is a joke, might as well let the pros do it.
Gymoor Prime
10-08-2006, 04:44
The fact those two are respected by anybody embarasses me.

So, were you born without a sense of humor, or did you lose it in a horrible accident?
Carnot
10-08-2006, 05:16
I think it would be great if these two ran. I agree, when Stewart is being serious his ideas are brilliant. I'm sure Colbert would be able to get some conservative support, thanks to his show. The Stewart/Colbert administration would be very refreshing.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2006, 05:26
Apparently they know enough of it to get elected.


then obviously, if Colbert and Stewart get elected, they know enough to get elected.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2006, 05:28
We'd really have to beef up ouranti-terror security of we elected a jewish president though... better to make Colbert the president ahd Stewart vice.
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 05:30
We'd really have to beef up ouranti-terror security of we elected a jewish president though... better to make Colbert the president ahd Stewart vice.

Hmmm...A good point. I mean, geez, the Catholic got assasinated, what would happen if we went so far from Protestant as Jewish?
Kyronea
10-08-2006, 06:31
Hmmm...A good point. I mean, geez, the Catholic got assasinated, what would happen if we went so far from Protestant as Jewish?
You're mocking him, aren't you?

Anyway, I would think this as a bad idea. Furthermore, I don't think either would be interested in the job(s) anyway. Those* are two of the most stressful jobs on the entire planet. Not many sane people would truly seek them.

*Presidency and Vice Presidency respectively, of course.
Bul-Katho
10-08-2006, 06:40
I'm sure if we lived in a nation of potheads they'd be P and VP. But we don't, so no they wouldn't win. I think i'd rather have Vicente Fox be president than him. The only people I'd vote for on comedy central to be president is Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 06:48
You're mocking him, aren't you?

Anyway, I would think this as a bad idea. Furthermore, I don't think either would be interested in the job(s) anyway. Those* are two of the most stressful jobs on the entire planet. Not many sane people would truly seek them.

*Presidency and Vice Presidency respectively, of course.

Actually, I was more mocking the fact that our presidents are Protestant, cept for the Catholic that got killed. He was probably talking about terrorism from Anti-Isreal folks, rather than what I was talking about though.
Montacanos
10-08-2006, 06:53
Stewart has a running joke about being McCains running mate. I think I would actually vote for a McCain/Stewart ticket. Colbert though, His jokes run on pretending he's someone he isnt. I dont know who he really is, or what his views actually are.
Kyronea
10-08-2006, 07:10
Actually, I was more mocking the fact that our presidents are Protestant, cept for the Catholic that got killed. He was probably talking about terrorism from Anti-Isreal folks, rather than what I was talking about though.
See, that's why I think an athiest should run. Said person has a chance of

A. Being hated by EVERYONE

B. Being hated by NO ONE.

I'm hoping for B.
The New Tundran Empire
10-08-2006, 07:17
Well, im 12 and I watch there shows, I dont think they should run, I mean they have fun on there shows, there not serious, but if the two would, STEPHEN ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont get me wrong, I like Jon too, but Stpehen way more.
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 07:22
See, that's why I think an athiest should run. Said person has a chance of

A. Being hated by EVERYONE

B. Being hated by NO ONE.

I'm hoping for B.

Too bad it's A.
The Five Castes
10-08-2006, 07:24
Stewart has a running joke about being McCains running mate. I think I would actually vote for a McCain/Stewart ticket. Colbert though, His jokes run on pretending he's someone he isnt. I dont know who he really is, or what his views actually are.
I agree that with Colbert, that's a major problem.

Still, politics is the art of chosing the lesser of two evils, and at least with Stewart, I believe he's sincere in his convictions on the issues of civil rights and equality. If not, well, it wouldn't be the first politician to lie to us, now would it?

I don't feel they should run, because their current role is far too valuable, but if they chose to, any other candidate would be hard pressed to draw away my vote.
The New Tundran Empire
10-08-2006, 07:27
Stewart, I believe he's sincere in his convictions on the issues of civil rights and equality.
How can you see there political views, I c two guys just getting humor to ppl through politics, like Stephen he acts like he is a republican (Idk what he is) and then uses these funny excuses to defend the republicans and there mistakes.
United Chicken Kleptos
10-08-2006, 07:29
I agree that with Colbert, that's a major problem.

Still, politics is the art of chosing the lesser of two evils, and at least with Stewart, I believe he's sincere in his convictions on the issues of civil rights and equality. If not, well, it wouldn't be the first politician to lie to us, now would it?

I don't feel they should run, because their current role is far too valuable, but if they chose to, any other candidate would be hard pressed to draw away my vote.

Okay, there's two Stephen Colberts. One is the character on the Colbert Report. The other is man who plays Stephen Colbert. I suppose he makes fun of things that he doesn't believe in.
Kyronea
10-08-2006, 07:44
Too bad it's A.
I still say said athiest should run.
United Chicken Kleptos
10-08-2006, 07:52
I still say said athiest should run.

I'm an atheist. Perhaps I should run...
The Five Castes
10-08-2006, 07:54
How can you see there political views, I c two guys just getting humor to ppl through politics, like Stephen he acts like he is a republican (Idk what he is) and then uses these funny excuses to defend the republicans and there mistakes.
Colbert, I have no indication of his politics. As for Stewart, the political debates he gets into with his guests when he isn't going for a laugh seem to be indicative of his actual feelings.
Ginnoria
10-08-2006, 07:56
I still say said athiest should run.
Atheists are unelectable, I'm afraid. They have bad hair and their Botox treatments are much more obvious than good Christians'.
The New Tundran Empire
10-08-2006, 08:06
Colbert, I have no indication of his politics. As for Stewart, the political debates he gets into with his guests when he isn't going for a laugh seem to be indicative of his actual feelings.
Well, I dont watch John much, but I think hes funny and I like him, Stephen I watch the most
The New Tundran Empire
10-08-2006, 08:07
Atheists are unelectable, I'm afraid. They have bad hair and their Botox treatments are much more obvious than good Christians'.
Thats bieng prejiduce, your telling me a christain cant have bad hair, or an athiest cant have good hair?
New Domici
10-08-2006, 08:25
I saw a bumper sticker today that said "Stewart/Colbert 2008". I thought it was pretty funny. Then I started thinking about it. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are really popular and respected figures in the media, those who watch their shows are generally more well aware about current events and politics than those who don't. They have gotten a lot of young people interested in both politics and voting, and they could get out the young vote more than any candidates before them, and probably more than any candidates after them could ever, just by having their names on the ballot.

Should they run? What would four years of the Stewart administration be like?

4 years without the Daily Show? No thanks.
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 08:29
Thats bieng prejiduce, your telling me a christain cant have bad hair, or an athiest cant have good hair?.

The above post is sarcastic, and as such does not represent my own views or opinions.
Kapsilan
10-08-2006, 08:44
How can you see there political views, I c two guys just getting humor to ppl through politics, like Stephen he acts like he is a republican (Idk what he is) and then uses these funny excuses to defend the republicans and there mistakes.
Both Stewart and Colbert are liberal. The character named Stephen Colbert is supposed to be an over-the-top spoof of pundits like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity. The real Stephen Colbert expresses his political views by mocking his opponents' through character acting.

--EDIT--

This is based on interviews with Colbert when he's not in-character. He makes excellent points just like Jon Stewart.
German Nightmare
10-08-2006, 12:14
4 years without the Daily Show? No thanks.
Yeah, I agree.
But in office, couldn't Stewart do a daily hour of presidential airtime?
And just think of Colbert doing a threatdown as vice-president! Priceless :D

This is based on interviews with Colbert when he's not in-character. He makes excellent points just like Jon Stewart.
Hahaha, when I first read that I thought it said "joints" - not points... :p
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/cr_2003_threatdown_m1-1.jpg
Teh_pantless_hero
10-08-2006, 12:20
4 years without the Daily Show? No thanks.
Live from the White House.
German Nightmare
10-08-2006, 12:21
Live from the White House.
My thoughts exactly!!!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
10-08-2006, 12:23
Too bad it's A.
Indeed.

I disagree. I think we all fondly remember President Macguyver. He's the kind of President I was proud to salute - the kind who could eliminate the national debt with a rubber band, a pair of nailclippers and a piece of chewing gum.:p Heh. :p


As I've said before, if Stewart would run I'd have to try to get US citizenship just to be able to vote for him. Any of our American friends here up for a politically motivated marriage? :p
Minaris
10-08-2006, 12:35
I think it would be great if these two ran. I agree, when Stewart is being serious his ideas are brilliant. I'm sure Colbert would be able to get some conservative support, thanks to his show. The Stewart/Colbert administration would be very refreshing.

Stephen's show is very liberal. It satirizes the Republicans... then again, maybe a lot of people don't know that... took me awhile.
Super-power
10-08-2006, 13:05
Yes!! Stewart/Colbert 2008!! Tho I think Stephen will change our greatest national threat from terrorism to bears.
Cannot think of a name
10-08-2006, 13:16
Indeed.

Heh. :p


As I've said before, if Stewart would run I'd have to try to get US citizenship just to be able to vote for him. Any of our American friends here up for a politically motivated marriage? :p
I'm in California, you'd probably want to go to a state where your vote mattered more-you kind of know where we're gonna swing.
Pepe Dominguez
10-08-2006, 13:38
I dunno about Colbert.. watching him choke back tears when he had to announce that Kerry had lost a state in the '04 election kinda convinced me in advance that the guy's a bit unstable to say the least..

Stewart's pretty funny though. I'd watch the debates. :)
Soviestan
10-08-2006, 14:24
Just because people are politicians doesn't mean they will be good politicians. Politicians generally know shit about shit anyway, they arn't selected from highly talented pools of people who know alot about government and their role in it.
yep. Just look at Ted "the internet is made of tubes" Stevens.
New Domici
10-08-2006, 14:59
Stephen's show is very liberal. It satirizes the Republicans... then again, maybe a lot of people don't know that... took me awhile.

Neither Stewart's nor Colbert's show is not very liberal. It satirizes the absurd. It just turns out that at the moment the deepest mines of absurdity are found in the republican party and conservative politics.

When they see an opportunity to satarize liberals they pounce on it like a hungry jackal. Remember the NARAL ad denouncing SC candidate Roberts that said that supporting him supports abortion clinic bombers? Stewart's response, "just like if you bought Michael Jackson's album Thriller in 1983, you support child molestation."

Stephen Colbert satarizes political talk shows,and primarily aims at the most visible ones. THE political talk show is The O'Reilly Factor, and Colbert's show is based segment for segment on that. But they also satarize liberal political talk radio with their occaisional "Russ Lieber" segments (with comedian David Cross).

The fact that they mock conservatives so much more than liberals is not because the show is so liberal but because there are literally thousands of hours of conservative talk on TV and Radio every day. There is roughly one full days worth of liberal talk, and it's all on the radio. They satarize liberal talk in direct proportion to how much of it there is. The conservative notion of "it's not balanced unless you pretend that both sides are equal," seems to have laid poison fruit in your skull.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
10-08-2006, 14:59
I'm in California, you'd probably want to go to a state where your vote mattered more-you kind of know where we're gonna swing.
:eek: Egads, you're right - I'd have to marry a red stater! Oh noes... >.<
New Domici
10-08-2006, 15:01
Yes!! Stewart/Colbert 2008!! Tho I think Stephen will change our greatest national threat from terrorism to bears.

Sounds fair. Bush changed it from terrorists to prostitutes. At least bears have been known to hurt people. :D
New Domici
10-08-2006, 15:03
:eek: Egads, you're right - I'd have to marry a red stater! Oh noes... >.<

I understand Austin is full of liberals. I remember listening to an interview with a country singer who said that to work a crowd who wasn't responding well he had to say, "we just did a week of shows in Austin, and it sure is good to be back in Texas," to get them to be receptive.
Darknovae
10-08-2006, 19:31
Stephen's show is very liberal. It satirizes the Republicans... then again, maybe a lot of people don't know that... took me awhile.

Yeah, it took me a wihle to figue that out too. But he says on his show that he is Catholic (he said it at some point, but he was probably being sarcastic) and then someone before said he was Jewish. I'm all for a non-Christian prez/veep. Of course, I think Jon Stewart would be a better prez, he's totally smart and has brilliant ideas, as well as a sense of humor. Stephen Colbert just satirizes everything he doesn't believe in... I'd totally vote for them... assuming they run in 2012 or later, when I will be 20 and finally able to vote for the new president. ]

:D
Montacanos
10-08-2006, 19:52
Okay, there's two Stephen Colberts. One is the character on the Colbert Report. The other is man who plays Stephen Colbert. I suppose he makes fun of things that he doesn't believe in.

Thats the thing though! I watch colbert all the time and never see him out of character. For all I know, he's a Green, or even a libertarian, maybe just a moderate.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2006, 20:13
Yeah, it took me a wihle to figue that out too. But he says on his show that he is Catholic (he said it at some point, but he was probably being sarcastic) and then someone before said he was Jewish. I'm all for a non-Christian prez/veep. Of course, I think Jon Stewart would be a better prez, he's totally smart and has brilliant ideas, as well as a sense of humor. Stephen Colbert just satirizes everything he doesn't believe in... I'd totally vote for them... assuming they run in 2012 or later, when I will be 20 and finally able to vote for the new president. ]

:D

check out his biography

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0170306/bio

Teaches Sunday School every weekend at his church and teaches his own specific story of salvation and has the children learn spiritual songs.
Iztatepopotla
10-08-2006, 20:20
Thats the thing though! I watch colbert all the time and never see him out of character. For all I know, he's a Green, or even a libertarian, maybe just a moderate.
He was out of character with Letterman, but they didn't talk politics.

Ok, what about this:

Jon Stewart: President;
Stephen Colbert: VP;
Lewis Black: Secretary of State;
Rob Corddry: Spokesman;
Samantha Bee: Defense;
That guy who makes the Trendspotting segment: Education;
The guy who also appears in the Mac ads: Trade.
Darknovae
10-08-2006, 20:23
check out his biography

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0170306/bio


Ah, okay then.
New Domici
10-08-2006, 20:34
Thats the thing though! I watch colbert all the time and never see him out of character. For all I know, he's a Green, or even a libertarian, maybe just a moderate.

He has appeared on The Majority Report (http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/index.php) a number of times. Usually he'll do a segment as the host of The Colbert Report and then he'll do a segment as himself. The fact that they bother to talk to him at all should tell you that he's pretty liberal. Once they asked him why he doesn't challenge conservative guests more and he said that he has to stay in character or he has no show. i.e. he'd like to, but he's sort of painted himself into a corner.

Listen to his speech at the White House Correspondents dinner and tell me you can't figure out his politics. "They're rearranging deck chairs on the Hindenburg." :D
Desperate Measures
10-08-2006, 20:40
They might not be the best pres/vice pres... but can you imagine the honesty that would take place? It'd be amazing.

How do people not get that Colbert is liberal or at least Democratic? He's not really all that good at standing up for the right... I mean at all... not even a little bit.
Chellis
10-08-2006, 21:03
Sounds great to me, as long as he has some positions to give out, etc. I want him to run, defidentally, but win? Need to know if he's as great as I hope he is ;)
Dinaverg
10-08-2006, 21:08
The guy who also appears in the Mac ads: Trade.

The Areas of My Expertise author John Hodgeman.
Neo Undelia
10-08-2006, 21:16
He was out of character with Letterman, but they didn't talk politics.

Ok, what about this:

Jon Stewart: President;
Stephen Colbert: VP;
Lewis Black: Secretary of State;
Rob Corddry: Spokesman;
Samantha Bee: Defense;
That guy who makes the Trendspotting segment: Education;
The guy who also appears in the Mac ads: Trade.
We've done worse.
Minaris
10-08-2006, 21:32
We've done worse.

And we are doing worse too, it seems...:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Kapsilan
10-08-2006, 22:37
:eek: Egads, you're right - I'd have to marry a red stater! Oh noes... >.<
Other than Austin, there's Kansas City. "The San Francisco of the midwest" they call it.
Zamnitia
10-08-2006, 23:15
He was out of character with Letterman, but they didn't talk politics.

Ok, what about this:

Jon Stewart: President;
Stephen Colbert: VP;
Lewis Black: Secretary of State;
Rob Corddry: Spokesman;
Samantha Bee: Defense;
That guy who makes the Trendspotting segment: Education;
The guy who also appears in the Mac ads: Trade.


lol put Lewis black as press secretary or ambassador to the UN and they have my vote completely
New Domici
11-08-2006, 02:06
They might not be the best pres/vice pres... but can you imagine the honesty that would take place? It'd be amazing.

How do people not get that Colbert is liberal or at least Democratic? He's not really all that good at standing up for the right... I mean at all... not even a little bit.

In fairness, neither are O'Reilly, Hannnity, or Limbaugh. If they were, they wouldn't need to lie all the time.
Regenius
11-08-2006, 02:24
Reagan made it, didn't he?

He was a movie star, big difference.:p