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Republican Senator doctors 9/11 photos for ad campaign

Sumamba Buwhan
09-08-2006, 23:41
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm

DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
It's Reutersgate all over again.

edit: oops - photo not photos
Dobbsworld
09-08-2006, 23:49
DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
Presumably because it's expedient for those DK favours politically.

Colour me unsurprised.
Keruvalia
09-08-2006, 23:53
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

Only Lewis Black will mention this. Republicans and "Sensible Right-Wing Americans" will merely ignore it.

Hooray for selective media! Hooray!

*shrug*
Massmurder
09-08-2006, 23:53
I'm more concerned over why every scandal - no matter how minor - has to have the word "gate" jammed clumsily on the end. What if Bill Gates got investigated by the IRS? Sub-editors the world over would be dying with smiles on their faces.
United Chicken Kleptos
09-08-2006, 23:54
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm

DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3742/wtcplanefuckhq2.jpg
Keruvalia
09-08-2006, 23:56
Presumably because it's expedient for those DK favours politically.

Now now ... DK is an independent.

(Disclaimer: "Independent" is a wholly owned subsidiary of the right wing and any referrence to the "Independent" must be done under careful written consent of the Republican Party and/or Joseph Leiberman. Failure to do so can result in the offender being named a dissident and, thus, subject to imprisonment at Guantanimo or fined as no less than $75,000 and no more than your soul. "Independent" is now, and always shall be, the sole property of "Republican Lite" est. 1996)

Wait ... what was I saying?
Massmurder
10-08-2006, 00:00
..although, having now actually read the article, this doesn't even deserve a -gate suffix. This is not remotely scandalous. It's not outrageous, and it's not shocking (besides exploiting a national tragedy of course). It's just some guy whose ad workers couldn't be bothered to track down some actual footage so just made some up. Who cares, the message is the same, it's not even exaggerated.
Pure Metal
10-08-2006, 00:04
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm

DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
It's Reutersgate all over again.

edit: oops - photo not photos
that's some lovely personality-politics right there... (i don't like the ad, just to be clear :P)
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2006, 00:11
..although, having now actually read the article, this doesn't even deserve a -gate suffix. This is not remotely scandalous. It's not outrageous, and it's not shocking (besides exploiting a national tragedy of course). It's just some guy whose ad workers couldn't be bothered to track down some actual footage so just made some up. Who cares, the message is the same, it's not even exaggerated.


well DK makes a big deal out of some smoke added to a photo in Lebanon so I had to razz him about this because he is constantly defending Republicans when they are called on anythign it seems and I would say the two issues are strikingly similar.

Plus I don't know why everything becomes a Gate but it makes things seem more sinister than they actually are so it's fun to use.
Massmurder
10-08-2006, 00:13
hmm i'll have to go and find that other thread now. Expect a detailed compare/contrast here at some point.
Meath Street
10-08-2006, 04:02
Using pictures of the 9/11 attacks to attack political opponents is disgraceful. Remember how Americans were united after September 2001.
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 04:29
Using pictures of the 9/11 attacks to attack political opponents is disgraceful. Remember how Americans were united after September 2001.
Yeah, I remember. I also remember that it took Karl Rove about 30 seconds to come up with ways they could be exploited for political gain. Hell, compared to the ads that morphed Max Cleland into Osama Bin Laden, these ads are tame.

And people wonder why I'm angry at Republicans all the damn time.
United Chicken Kleptos
10-08-2006, 04:34
Yeah, I remember. I also remember that it took Karl Rove about 30 seconds to come up with ways they could be exploited for political gain. Hell, compared to the ads that morphed Max Cleland into Osama Bin Laden, these ads are tame.

And people wonder why I'm angry at Republicans all the damn time.

Who's Max Cleland?
Alleghany County
10-08-2006, 04:37
Who's Max Cleland?

A former Georgia Senator if I remember right.
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 04:40
A former Georgia Senator if I remember right.Yep--a triple amputee who lost his limbs in Vietnam, and who was defeated by Saxby Chambliss, who missed Vietnam due to a "bad knee." Here's a rundown (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14474-2002Jun19.html) on the whole sordid affair.
United Chicken Kleptos
10-08-2006, 04:55
Yep--a triple amputee who lost his limbs in Vietnam, and who was defeated by Saxby Chambliss, who missed Vietnam due to a "bad knee." Here's a rundown (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14474-2002Jun19.html) on the whole sordid affair.

...

Is it possible to get that dumb just breathing in the air in Georgia?
Epsilon Squadron
10-08-2006, 04:57
Link isn't working correctly for me. Keeps reloading the advertisement and never going to the actual article.
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 05:05
Link isn't working correctly for me. Keeps reloading the advertisement and never going to the actual article.
There's a link in the upper right hand corner that takes you to the article.
Baguetten
10-08-2006, 05:15
Yep--a triple amputee who lost his limbs in Vietnam, and who was defeated by Saxby Chambliss, who missed Vietnam due to a "bad knee." Here's a rundown (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14474-2002Jun19.html) on the whole sordid affair.

What, he only has one arm? Or one leg? I hate it when they don't say which body parts are missing. "Triple amputee." It could bloody be toes for all anyone knows.
Alleghany County
10-08-2006, 05:17
What, he only has one arm? Or one leg? I hate it when they don't say which body parts are missing. "Triple amputee." It could bloody be toes for all anyone knows.

I believe he only has one arm.
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 05:19
What, he only has one arm? Or one leg? I hate it when they don't say which body parts are missing. "Triple amputee." It could bloody be toes for all anyone knows.He has one arm left. He's in a wheelchair. Hell, google image search him. Here's the first one to come up.

http://pjnet.org/weblogs/pjnettoday/archives/cleland%20photo%20crop-thumb.jpg
Pantylvania
10-08-2006, 05:20
I saw that DeWine ad way back when it first aired. I responded by donating $100 to Sherrod Brown's campaign.
Gauthier
10-08-2006, 05:22
Only Lewis Black will mention this. Republicans and "Sensible Right-Wing Americans" will merely ignore it.

Hooray for selective media! Hooray!

*shrug*

More example of the Evil Liberal Media and its endless campaign of persecution against every righteous God-fearing Republican.

:D
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 05:27
I saw that DeWine ad way back when it first aired. I responded by donating $100 to Sherrod Brown's campaign.
Nice. That reminds me of the way Dean used that sort of crap to push donations during the primary season. Hell, there were people who would send Dean ten bucks if a troll popped up on the Dean for America blog.
Not bad
10-08-2006, 05:29
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm

DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
It's Reutersgate all over again.

edit: oops - photo not photos

What does DK have to do with this?
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2006, 05:30
What does DK have to do with this?

I explain later - keep reading
Gauthier
10-08-2006, 05:32
What does DK have to do with this?

DK bitched about Reuters using a doctored photo for a story on another Israeli attack on Lebanon and whinged about liberal media, etc. etc.

Republican campaign doctors 9-11 photo, no bitchings from DK about doctored photos.

Sesame Street is brought to you today by the word "Hypocrisy."
Baguetten
10-08-2006, 05:38
He has one arm left. He's in a wheelchair. Hell, google image search him. Here's the first one to come up.
http://pjnet.org/weblogs/pjnettoday/archives/cleland%20photo%20crop-thumb.jpg

Intersting that you'd assume I'd care that much about some obscure US personality that I'd google him when bitching about shoddy writing.
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 05:41
Intersting that you'd assume I'd care that much about some obscure US personality that I'd google him when bitching about shoddy writing.
You cared enough to ask a question when you could have satisfied your curiosity by opening another tab and doing a search that would have taken you five freaking seconds. If you didn't care, then why did you ask?
Pantylvania
10-08-2006, 05:48
Nice. That reminds me of the way Dean used that sort of crap to push donations during the primary season. Hell, there were people who would send Dean ten bucks if a troll popped up on the Dean for America blog.There are two big differences. 1: Sherrod Brown didn't ask me for anything. I just happened to see the DeWine ad on TV as it first aired. 2: DeWine the Troll is the Republican nominee for US Senate, not some anonymous poster.
Baguetten
10-08-2006, 05:49
You cared enough to ask a question when you could have satisfied your curiosity by opening another tab and doing a search that would have taken you five freaking seconds. If you didn't care, then why did you ask?

Which part of "when bitching about shoddy writing" was it you missed? I don't care about his missing limbs - I'm bitching about the poor writing in the article. If you missed that as well, my "questions" were rhetorical. (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=rhetorical)
Not bad
10-08-2006, 06:03
DK bitched about Reuters using a doctored photo for a story on another Israeli attack on Lebanon and whinged about liberal media, etc. etc.

Republican campaign doctors 9-11 photo, no bitchings from DK about doctored photos.

Sesame Street is brought to you today by the word "Hypocrisy."

If the point is that somebody point out these things isnt it enough that someone bitched about this case?


Or are you bitching because DK didnt start this thread first?

Did you somehow divine that DK had knowlege of this event before you posted about it?

Do you have reason to believe he should have known about it beforehand?

Is he somehow bound to report every photoshopped photo in news stories and in political campaigns?

Did he gig you because you were not fast enough to say the Reuters photo was deplorable?

You are actually better off than if he had been first to start a thread about this. If DK had started this thread it would probably have had a title that gave the Senator's name rather than just saying "Republican Senator". That would be less propaganda for your side. By using "Republican Senator" you were able to paint em all with the same brush. You got the first punch in. So by DK not starting the thread you win that battle.

I still dont see why DK is involved other than you dont like DK and wanted a dig at him. That's fine many people dont. But when you attack on no basis and out of the blue it just makes whatever you might say about him in the future suspect and tactical rather than substantial and objective.

Todays observation brought to you by the Not bad sharpening service. We can always tell when an axe is being ground.
Armandian Cheese
10-08-2006, 06:04
The ad never claimed the video was an actual representation of the 9/11 attacks. Additionally, the purpose of the ad was clearly to change people's opinions, and inherently biased. The Lebanongate photo was supposed to be from an unbiased news organization reporting the facts.
Kyronea
10-08-2006, 06:07
...

Is it possible to get that dumb just breathing in the air in Georgia?
Certainly seems that way, judging by my relatives.

Anyway, despite the somewhat questionable tactic of using the 9/11 attack in the ad in the first place, it seems more like an honest gaffe than something scandelous.

Still, DK should be ranting about this, and we should keep bringing this up in the future if he never says anything about it. After all, it's always nice to have more ammunition.
United Chicken Kleptos
10-08-2006, 06:22
Certainly seems that way, judging by my relatives.

Anyway, despite the somewhat questionable tactic of using the 9/11 attack in the ad in the first place, it seems more like an honest gaffe than something scandelous.

Still, DK should be ranting about this, and we should keep bringing this up in the future if he never says anything about it. After all, it's always nice to have more ammunition.

I'm never going to go on a flight that transfers to Atlanta again.
Gauthier
10-08-2006, 06:24
If the point is that somebody point out these things isnt it enough that someone bitched about this case?

Or are you bitching because DK didnt start this thread first?

The point is to highlight Kimchi's selectiveness and partisanship when it comes to bitching things of identical nature out.

Did you somehow divine that DK had knowlege of this event before you posted about it?

Do you have reason to believe he should have known about it beforehand?

Is he somehow bound to report every photoshopped photo in news stories and in political campaigns?

Considering you've bothered to post a reply, your inability to grasp how NationStates General is a forum where such things can be discussed and replied to is all the more cute. DK could have posted a reply to this by now, but so far he hasn't. And given his bitchfest thread on the Reuters incident like it was another glaring example of Libuhrel Hayt against the Right, the silence is deafening.

Did he gig you because you were not fast enough to say the Reuters photo was deplorable?

You are actually better off than if he had been first to start a thread about this. If DK had started this thread it would probably have had a title that gave the Senator's name rather than just saying "Republican Senator". That would be less propaganda for your side. By using "Republican Senator" you were able to paint em all with the same brush. You got the first punch in. So by DK not starting the thread you win that battle.

I still dont see why DK is involved other than you dont like DK and wanted a dig at him. That's fine many people dont. But when you attack on no basis and out of the blue it just makes whatever you might say about him in the future suspect and tactical rather than substantial and objective.

Todays observation brought to you by the Not bad sharpening service. We can always tell when an axe is being ground.

And again you missed the point completely on the word "Hypocrisy." Try getting a dictionary.
DesignatedMarksman
10-08-2006, 06:38
I'd love to see more Pro-American propaganda out there, fake, real, or otherwise.

By any party.
Not bad
10-08-2006, 06:40
The point is to highlight Kimchi's selectiveness and partisanship when it comes to bitching things of identical nature out..

Your idea of identical nature is just adorable if absolutely wrong.

Oh hey look at me I'm attacking the same way you do! Without making a single point, just half witted attacks. I feel all dirty now.



Considering you've bothered to post a reply, your inability to grasp how NationStates General is a forum where such things can be discussed and replied to is all the more cute. DK could have posted a reply to this by now, but so far he hasn't.
Oh look we have a mind reader! He knows where DK is and whether he can have replied by now.


And given his bitchfest thread on the Reuters incident like it was another glaring example of Libuhrel Hayt against the Right, the silence is deafening..

That is not the sentence of a person who should be advising others to purchase dictionaries. I cannot even defend against it as it has no meaning whatsoever.



And again you missed the point completely on the word "Hypocrisy." Try getting a dictionary.

I understand hypocrisy perfectly after reading your drivel. Does your dictionary have a definition for "Libuhrel Hayt" though? I think you might have twisted the spelling as it went through the logic portion of your thoughts.
Kibolonia
10-08-2006, 10:07
Your idea of identical nature is just adorable if absolutely wrong.
Well, they're certainly highly similar, Captain Semantic. People lying with photoshop to exploit tragedy to futher a political agenda. That scores pretty high on the Douche-ometer.
Gartref
10-08-2006, 11:57
He has one arm left. He's in a wheelchair. Hell, google image search him. Here's the first one to come up.

http://pjnet.org/weblogs/pjnettoday/archives/cleland%20photo%20crop-thumb.jpg

That's obviously photoshopped. You can see where they cropped his legs off.
Demented Hamsters
10-08-2006, 13:51
What, he only has one arm? Or one leg? I hate it when they don't say which body parts are missing. "Triple amputee." It could bloody be toes for all anyone knows.
Intersting that you'd assume I'd care that much about some obscure US personality that I'd google him when bitching about shoddy writing.
Which part of "when bitching about shoddy writing" was it you missed? I don't care about his missing limbs - I'm bitching about the poor writing in the article. If you missed that as well, my "questions" were rhetorical. (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=rhetorical)

Shame you don't put as much energy into reading as you do into hurling venom and spite at anyone who dares disagree with you.

a man who lost both legs and an arm in the service of his country
2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence.
Demented Hamsters
10-08-2006, 14:02
Yep--a triple amputee who lost his limbs in Vietnam, and who was defeated by Saxby Chambliss, who missed Vietnam due to a "bad knee." Here's a rundown (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14474-2002Jun19.html) on the whole sordid affair.
You missed out the respect and kudos offered to him by the right.
Like what Ann Coulter said about him: “If Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. Senator in the first place.”

Funny that. I was always under the impression that the Right were obsessed with the military and hammered on and on about how noble 'our' soldiers are and how anyone who insulted them were the lowest form of life and shouldn't be allowed to stay in America, nor even continue breathing.

Guess you're only worthy if you don't vote/stand for the opposition.
Meath Street
10-08-2006, 14:21
The ad never claimed the video was an actual representation of the 9/11 attacks.
*explodes with laughter*

You get my apologist sycophant ass-licker of the year award!

I'd love to see more Pro-American propaganda out there, fake, real, or otherwise.

By any party.
Fake propaganda is just lying. Lying is evil.

Repeatedly showing the 9/11 attacks isn't really pro-American propaganda. Hell, the Islamists probably like to replay it again and again.

Unless, by pro-American propaganda you mean pro-Republican propaganda. Now I understand.
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 14:43
You missed out the respect and kudos offered to him by the right.
Like what Ann Coulter said about him: “If Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. Senator in the first place.”

Funny that. I was always under the impression that the Right were obsessed with the military and hammered on and on about how noble 'our' soldiers are and how anyone who insulted them were the lowest form of life and shouldn't be allowed to stay in America, nor even continue breathing.

Guess you're only worthy if you don't vote/stand for the opposition.
I was trying to keep the conversation out of Coulter-land, since talking about her makes me feel dirty inside.
Demented Hamsters
10-08-2006, 14:46
I was trying to keep the conversation out of Coulter-land, since talking about her makes me feel dirty inside.
Go on, admit you like feeling all dirty inside. Much like Coulter herself, it turns you on ;)
Myrmidonisia
10-08-2006, 14:47
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm

DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
It's Reutersgate all over again.

edit: oops - photo not photos
So we trot out the professional victims that are mortified that this ad was ever used, let alone rendered incorrectly. And it was a rendering, not a photo. It was incorrect, not to embellish the incident, but because some artist goofed.

What's the problem?
Kibolonia
10-08-2006, 14:50
Go on, admit you like feeling all dirty inside. Much like Coulter herself, it turns you on ;)
Her pussy is snaggle-toothed. I should know, it killed my donkey.
Myrmidonisia
10-08-2006, 15:03
I guess my real question is "What harm did the error in the rendering do?"
Allanea
10-08-2006, 15:05
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm

DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
It's Reutersgate all over again.

edit: oops - photo not photos


Because political ads lie. THat's what they do. They don't claim for lack of bias and truthfulness like the MSM.

:D

Politicians lie. Journalists lie. Anybody disputing it is an idiot.

And anybody saying 'Politicians and Journos lie EXCEPT MY PARTY/NEWSPAPER" is a bigger idiot.
Demented Hamsters
10-08-2006, 15:08
I guess my real question is "What harm did the error in the rendering do?"
Before I answer that, care to answer this question: "What harm did the photoshopping of the Lebannon pic do?"
Myrmidonisia
10-08-2006, 15:15
Before I answer that, care to answer this question: "What harm did the photoshopping of the Lebannon pic do?"
Considering that photo was supposed to be an accurate depiction of events, the harm was that it misrepresented them. Do you really not know, or are you an idiot?
Demented Hamsters
10-08-2006, 15:35
Considering that photo was supposed to be an accurate depiction of events, the harm was that it misrepresented them. Do you really not know, or are you an idiot?
And this photo the OP was about was also supposed to be an accurate depiction of events, the harm being that it misrepresented them.
Understand?
Or are you the idiot?

Another question: What harm was there in misrepresenting the Lebannon photo?
Laerod
10-08-2006, 15:42
The ad never claimed the video was an actual representation of the 9/11 attacks. Additionally, the purpose of the ad was clearly to change people's opinions, and inherently biased. The Lebanongate photo was supposed to be from an unbiased news organization reporting the facts.So honesty is no longer something expected from a Republican senator candidate? Good to know...
Laerod
10-08-2006, 15:43
And this photo the OP was about was also supposed to be an accurate depiction of events, the harm being that it misrepresented them.
Understand?
Or are you the idiot?

Another question: What harm was there in misrepresenting the Lebannon photo?There's more than just one photo that was doctored...
Hydesland
10-08-2006, 16:07
The point was, reuters was always suppost to be the most "impartial news source" and was never bias and anything that came from them must be true.

No one says the same thing about the Republican Senator.
Khadgar
10-08-2006, 16:32
The point was, reuters was always suppost to be the most "impartial news source" and was never bias and anything that came from them must be true.

No one says the same thing about the Republican Senator.


http://www.factcheck.org/


The only website that matters in an election year.
R0cka
10-08-2006, 16:39
DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
It's Reutersgate all over again.


There is a difference between polticians and news agencies altering photos.

There is a difference between poltical attack ads, and what are supposed to be legitimate photos from a news story.

For either group to do it is digusting, but for a news agancy to do it is worse.
Meath Street
10-08-2006, 17:02
There is a difference between polticians and news agencies altering photos.

There is a difference between poltical attack ads, and what are supposed to be legitimate photos from a news story.

For either group to do it is digusting, but for a news agancy to do it is worse.
Hey everybody, I think that we all know that people like this guy and Myrmowat's his name would be engaging in hell-worth denouncements if the Democrats did this.

Can I get an amen to that?
Baguetten
10-08-2006, 17:02
Shame you don't put as much energy into reading

Too bad you don't either, it would seem, seeing as I was bitching about the term. It does go on to later describe the missing limbs, but it starts off with "triple amputee" and leaves it at that. A shoddy writing, indeed, as it's a very poor way of making you want to read more to find out what. "Oooh, triple amputee. I must know what - maybe they'll mention it somewhere!" Yeah, right.

as you do into hurling venom and spite at anyone who dares disagree with you.

Now, where would the fun be in that?
Arthais101
10-08-2006, 17:16
Hey everybody, I think that we all know that people like this guy and Myrmowat's his name would be engaging in hell-worth denouncements if the Democrats did this.

Can I get an amen to that?

When I realized the Republican party would simultaniously denounce Clinton for having a blow job in his office and yet praise Newt Gingrich who carried on a LONG TERM relationship with another woman while his wife had CANCER...I realized the hypocracy of the right, and am no longer surprised by it.

Sufficient to say, if this was a democrat, fox news right now would be calling it a sign of the moral decay of the left.
Epsilon Squadron
10-08-2006, 17:23
So honesty is no longer something expected from a Republican senator candidate? Good to know...
Just so you know, honesty is not expected from any politician any more. Supreme court in Washington ruled last year that lying in a political ad was protected free speech.
Demented Hamsters
10-08-2006, 17:31
Just so you know, honesty is not expected from any politician any more. Supreme court in Washington ruled last year that lying in a political ad was protected free speech.
You're kidding aren't you?
Tell me you're kidding.
It's so hard to tell these days. Reality is becoming so blurred.
Epsilon Squadron
10-08-2006, 17:33
You're kidding aren't you?
Tell me you're kidding.
It's so hard to tell these days. Reality is becoming so blurred.
It was a political mailing last October. It horribly misrepresented the voting record of the opponent. Misrepresented to the point that the court did rule it was deliberate.
However, it ruled that the 1st amendment protected that mailing.
Kecibukia
10-08-2006, 17:37
Just so you know, honesty is not expected from any politician any more. Supreme court in Washington ruled last year that lying in a political ad was protected free speech.

While at the same time the "constitutional" McCain-Feingold incumbant protection act, prevents people from even using a politicians name 2 months before the election, completely restricting their 1st Amendment rights.

Don't ya just love it.
Myrmidonisia
10-08-2006, 17:41
While at the same time the "constitutional" McCain-Feingold incumbant protection act, prevents people from even using a politicians name 2 months before the election, completely restricting their 1st Amendment rights.

Don't ya just love it.
I love seeing someone else refer to that law with the proper title.
Myotisinia
10-08-2006, 18:17
True enough. A rule for one party should be a rule for another. Unfortunately, since it seemed like everybody rushed to defend the liberal media outlets that were doing the picture doctoring the first time around, I don't think it's realistic to lambast THIS guy just because he decided to follow suit.

Like I said. A rule for one is a rule for all.

Unfortunately, it would seem the media at large has a philosophy that goes like, "if you don't have a good news story to report, invent one."

It's a sick f*cking world we live in, isn't it?
R0cka
10-08-2006, 18:37
Hey everybody, I think that we all know that people like this guy and Myrmowat's his name would be engaging in hell-worth denouncements if the Democrats did this.


No.
Myrmidonisia
10-08-2006, 18:40
Hey everybody, I think that we all know that people like this guy and Myrmowat's his name would be engaging in hell-worth denouncements if the Democrats did this.

Can I get an amen to that?
Damn nice of you to project your bias and ignornance on to the rest of us. If you can't tell the difference between a rendering in a campaign ad and a photo that depicts an actual event ... I guess anything else I might add would be wasted on you.

Pat yourself on the back and congratulate yourself on how smart you are.
The Nazz
10-08-2006, 19:12
When I realized the Republican party would simultaniously denounce Clinton for having a blow job in his office and yet praise Newt Gingrich who carried on a LONG TERM relationship with another woman while his wife had CANCER...I realized the hypocracy of the right, and am no longer surprised by it.

Sufficient to say, if this was a democrat, fox news right now would be calling it a sign of the moral decay of the left.
Not just Fox News. For proof, I remind everyone of what the morning shows tried to do to Democratic Congressman Robert Wexler after his appearance on the Colbert Report. Fox was particularly egregious in the way they cut the original footage without letting anyone know they'd cut it, but all of the major networks were ridiculous about it.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2006, 20:00
True enough. A rule for one party should be a rule for another. Unfortunately, since it seemed like everybody rushed to defend the liberal media outlets that were doing the picture doctoring the first time around, I don't think it's realistic to lambast THIS guy just because he decided to follow suit.

Like I said. A rule for one is a rule for all.

Unfortunately, it would seem the media at large has a philosophy that goes like, "if you don't have a good news story to report, invent one."

It's a sick f*cking world we live in, isn't it?


I don't know who this group of "everybody" is but when DK posted his story, I said "Stupid photographer/journalist. Stupid editor." - I felt that it was wrong to do it then and I felt it wrong for this guy to do it. I also saw everyone else saying it was a stupid thing to do. I did see people defending Reuters saying that they could have possibly overlooked the fact that the photo was doctored, which is not impossible. Reuters is pretty well known for having an impartial view most of the time.

I wouldn't have said anything about this story in the first place but seeing as how DK loves to go after the 'liberal media' (anyone not kissing conservative/military ass), I thought it would be a fun way to razz him about it, and semantics aside, I think the comparison is quite similar.

I never really would have expected him to bring this story to our attention, and whomever said that a political ad should be expected to have some spin is entirely correct, but anyone with a half a brain shouldn't really expect every Reuters (or anybody elses) news article to be completely bias free. Is it even possible to have a bias free article?

DK is honest enough (sometimes - to make it in the Senate, politicians have to be courteous to each other? lol) to say that politicians are untrustworthy so I don't think that this story will be a shocking revelation to him.
Laerod
11-08-2006, 00:14
There is a difference between polticians and news agencies altering photos.

There is a difference between poltical attack ads, and what are supposed to be legitimate photos from a news story.

For either group to do it is digusting, but for a news agancy to do it is worse.The agency itself didn't do it. A freelance photographer did and they didn't catch it.
Meath Street
11-08-2006, 00:35
Damn nice of you to project your bias and ignornance on to the rest of us.
*Sees your sig*

No, you're not biased at all, are you? ;)

If you can't tell the difference between a rendering in a campaign ad and a photo that depicts an actual event
So the Republican was presenting a fictional event in which smoke was, for some unexplained reason, emerging from a hole in a skyscraper?
The Black Forrest
11-08-2006, 00:40
There's more than just one photo that was doctored...

They only showed 2 (that I have seen) over here.

Did your agencies show more?
Shalrirorchia
11-08-2006, 03:54
Reminds me of another incident that happened recently *chuckle*

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm

DK why haven't you jumped all over this as political douchbaggery?
It's Reutersgate all over again.

edit: oops - photo not photos

DeWine is one of my senators. As far as Republicans go, he is less objectionable than most. But my opinion of him has dropped recently (in part thanks to his ads...I don't like seeing ads that lie and smear), and even though I am not entirely happy with Sherrod Brown I will still support Brown in the general election.
Myrmidonisia
11-08-2006, 13:56
*Sees your sig*

No, you're not biased at all, are you? ;)


So the Republican was presenting a fictional event in which smoke was, for some unexplained reason, emerging from a hole in a skyscraper?
Like I said, 'Pat youself on the back and congratulate yourself on how smart you are'.