NationStates Jolt Archive

This is for The Clash, Dead Kennedys, Refused, Against me! and all the others who did it a bit differently.

Any other contributions?

Sex Pistols, Ramones, The Damned, Buzzcocks, Sham 69, Husker Du...

...The list goes on and on. Literally.

The Misfits.

The Misfits.

I hope to somebody's god that you mean the Danzig era...

I was totally going to husker du this thread..

This is for The Clash Great! Dead Kennedys Allright Refused hmmmmmmm Against me! Yuck.

The Smiths? Can we finally accept the influence of the Smiths on post-punk music?

I hope to somebody's god that you mean the Danzig era...


as far as im concerned, thats the ONLY ERA.

What about the Stooges, are they considered punk?

I know they predate the punk era, but I can't help but think of Raw Power and Fun House as two of the best punk albums, if not the best.

What about the Stooges, are they considered punk?

I know they predate the punk era, but I can't help but think of Raw Power and Fun House as two of the best punk albums, if not the best.
I don't understand anything if the Stooges are not punk.

I appreciate the idea behind punk but get so fucking sick of so many of the 'punk' bands sounding the same.

I will add one of my favorites though: Propaghandi

I don't understand anything if the Stooges are not punk.


I consider them Punk, or Proto-Punk.

Since the genre of "punk" didnt really exist then.

Then again, I think The Who are also one of the bands that led to Punk.'

Although I would say that Raw Power may be the first Punk Album.

I consider them Punk, or Proto-Punk.

Since the genre of "punk" didnt really exist then.

Then again, I think The Who are also one of the bands that led to Punk.'

Although I would say that Raw Power may be the first Punk Album.
I agree. But I think lots of people and bands throughout music history can be considered punk.

Minor Threat, Fugazi, and Embrace all the way.

Although I'm basically convinced that for better or for worse, punk is dead.

Refusedhmmmmmmm Against me! Yuck.

your taste in music leaves something to be desired

The weird thing about punk music is it takes no talent to play it, and it is so highly appreciated. Take the germs for example, they didnt know how to play for shit.

The bad thing about punk music is is that it has begun to be generic, it sounds all the same. Anti-government, anti-police, anti-drugs, sorry meant pro-drugs. It's never great, theres no range at all. And the solos aren't even considered a solo.

Alot of other bands are also communists, yet they're apart of a corporate record company. Hypocritical? Very much so.

Does anything good come out of punk? No, there has been nothing to help the agendas that punk believes in. No one is up in arms, no one is making a difference. All todays punk bands are just making their money off of Bush, abortion, and that's about it. You have a punk band that's anti-bush you'll go far, simple as that. Generic? highly. The only thing punks do is get high, get drunk, and sometimes perform petty protests with all the other hippies banging drums and believing democracy and communism can mix.

The weird thing about punk music is it takes no talent to play it, and it is so highly appreciated. Take the germs for example, they didnt know how to play for shit.

Tell that to Protest the Hero, Fugazi, or The Clash.

Although as the Teen Idles pointed out:

You keep talking about talent
Talent? What do you know?
Instead of studying theory
We're going to get up and go

That's the core concept. Punk isn't about sedentary study, it's about getting up and saying what you want with music.

The bad thing about punk music is is that it has begun to be generic, it sounds all the same. Anti-government, anti-police, anti-drugs, sorry meant pro-drugs. It's never great, theres no range at all. And the solos aren't even considered a solo.

I have yet to hear a "great" band of any kind. They all suck for different reasons. Punk is just honest.

I could say the same of Pop though. It's all the same Pro-idiocy, Pro-superficiality, Pro-apathy. At least punk stands for something real and important.

Alot of other bands are also communists, yet they're apart of a corporate record company. Hypocritical? Very much so.

Who? The Real communist punks sign on to independant labels. The few who do sign major either totally sell out or do it for distrobution (what better revenge than to use the system against itself?)

Does anything good come out of punk? No, there has been nothing to help the agendas that punk believes in. No one is up in arms, no one is making a difference. All todays punk bands are just making their money off of Bush, abortion, and that's about it. You have a punk band that's anti-bush you'll go far, simple as that. Generic? highly. The only thing punks do is get high, get drunk, and sometimes perform petty protests with all the other hippies banging drums and believing democracy and communism can mix.

Everything you said in this Paragraph is totally false. Many punks identified these problem in the 80's and attacked them. Yes, mainstream bullshit is still mainstreamed, but that means nothing. Learn what you are attacking then come back and bitch.

your taste in music leaves something to be desired

Yeah, Against Me! is the shit.

Some other good bands to throw in:

Agnostic Front
The Partisans
Bad Brains
Black Flag
Capitalist Casualties
A Global Threat
DOA
Minor Threat
Youth Brigade
Operation Ivy

As someone else said already, the list goes on and on...

Might I suggest Mischief Brew (the concoction of Erik Petersen, formerly of The Orphans), who, while not strictly punk, has created a very unique, folky and honest sound. Anarcho-folk punk/gypsy rock at it's finest. No, I was not influenced to say any of that by anything other than the fact that I absolutely love everything they've (he's) put out to date.

http://www.myspace.com/mischiefbrew

anti-nowhere league play dublin sept 8.

wild fucking horses will not keep me away.

missed discharge a few weeks ago, gutted.

listening to a lot of dropkick murphy's recently. nice.

This is where I use my hardcore talking voice to tell you about Good Clean Fun, and that's posi.

lol

Also, I like DRI.

although i dissagree with everyone of these bands political views...i love 'em
anti flag
against me!
(old) AFI
black flag
the clash
the casualties
dead kennedys
dropkick murphys
the explosion
the germs
yes, i'll say it, greenday(old stuff, even though i like there new stuff as well)
the misfits
the new york dolls
NoFX
the offspring
the ramones
rancid
richard hell and the voidoids(for that new wave touch)
rise against
sex pistols
sonic youth??(artsy punk?)
the velvet underground??


well thats all the bands on my ipod that i concider punk
question m arks means i dont know if there concidered punk, but the rest represent what is punk today.

I have yet to hear a "great" band of any kind. They all suck for different reasons. Punk is just honest.

...The Real communist punks sign on to independant labels. The few who do sign major either totally sell out or do it for distrobution (what better revenge than to use the system against itself?)

1: Well, the Sex Pistols were definitely great before Sid Vicious. They could flat-out play for their audiences... Which really goes to show how important a good bassist is. I mean, Steve fucked up constantly when Sid was with them. You never hear that on their stuff predating March of '77.

And The Clash were great, too... Until the 1980's came along, when Joe got way too far up his own ass. But yeah, you're right. All of the bands seem to suck for different reasons. :p

2: The Sex Pistols are the best example of real Punks signing to a major label. They caused some serious shit back in '77.

as far as im concerned, thats the ONLY ERA.
Hey, even after Danzig, they're good.
How can you not like "Dig Up Her Bones" or "Helena"?

Hey, even after Danzig, they're good.
How can you not like "Dig Up Her Bones" or "Helena"?

Danzig was awsome!

1: Well, the Sex Pistols were definitely great before Sid Vicious. They could flat-out play for their audiences... Which really goes to show how important a good bassist is. I mean, Steve fucked up constantly when Sid was with them. You never hear that on their stuff predating March of '77.

And The Clash were great, too... Until the 1980's came along, when Joe got way too far up his own ass. But yeah, you're right. All of the bands seem to suck for different reasons. :p

2: The Sex Pistols are the best example of real Punks signing to a major label. They caused some serious shit back in '77.

The book I have on the Pistols is lost right now, but by all accounts they regularly fucked up in concert. Matlock was the only one who made it through most of their early shows without fucking up royally. Because of the band's drug problem they never really gave live shows of the quality of what was on their albums (not to say they didn't have good moments).

The Clash were the exact opposite. They were amazing live and dull beyond compare in studio. They got too exacting in studio, and lost track of the passion in their music (not that I blame them, a studio sucks your soul out and leaves you an empty husk by the 4th time through your first track).

I never said there weren't good bands, just that I had never met one "great" by this guy's definition. After all, I've never met a perfect person and I never will.

Danzig was awsome!
...Were you listening to what I was saying?

Danzig is good, but Misfits still sound good without him...

...Were you listening to what I was saying?

Danzig is good, but Misfits still sound good without him...



#1. Nope :D
#2. They're not bad :)

Might I suggest Mischief Brew (the concoction of Erik Petersen, formerly of The Orphans), who, while not strictly punk, has created a very unique, folky and honest sound. Anarcho-folk punk/gypsy rock at it's finest. No, I was not influenced to say any of that by anything other than the fact that I absolutely love everything they've (he's) put out to date.

http://www.myspace.com/mischiefbrew

That's really good stuff!

The book I have on the Pistols is lost right now, but by all accounts they regularly fucked up in concert. Matlock was the only one who made it through most of their early shows without fucking up royally. Because of the band's drug problem they never really gave live shows of the quality of what was on their albums (not to say they didn't have good moments).

The Clash were the exact opposite. They were amazing live and dull beyond compare in studio. They got too exacting in studio, and lost track of the passion in their music (not that I blame them, a studio sucks your soul out and leaves you an empty husk by the 4th time through your first track).

I never said there weren't good bands, just that I had never met one "great" by this guy's definition. After all, I've never met a perfect person and I never will.

1: Well, they did fuck up a lot back in 1975 when they were just starting to play as a band. But in 1976, they were usually really good (there are plenty of recordings from their live sets then, and personal accounts give the nod to them being good). Take a listen to their Screen on the Green and 100 Club gigs (their 100 Club performance is electric). There's also another gig, where they play "Understanding", doing it very well. I've forgotten the name of the place, though. I know there's a complete recording of it, but I forgot the fucking name!

2: Yeah, The Clash couldn't seem to focus properly. Bands like the Ramones, the Sex Pistols (excellent studio players by all accounts, save for Sid), and Husker Du really knew how to use the studio. The Clash, well, kinda didn't.

3: Haha. :p

Might I suggest Mischief Brew (the concoction of Erik Petersen, formerly of The Orphans), who, while not strictly punk, has created a very unique, folky and honest sound. Anarcho-folk punk/gypsy rock at it's finest. No, I was not influenced to say any of that by anything other than the fact that I absolutely love everything they've (he's) put out to date.

http://www.myspace.com/mischiefbrew

Wow, these guys are awesome. Well, I'm going off to find guitar tabs, they have some crazy good songs. :D

I ain't taking about some beatles song, written a hundred years before I was born...

Hey, even after Danzig, they're good.
How can you not like "Dig Up Her Bones" or "Helena"?

Because it isnt punk anymore.

The kind of charm that the band had, with the "Scary horror movie set to almost peppy beat" thing was gone, replaced by what a good friend called

"Jerry and Doyle's Metal Band."

Wich wouldnt have been bad at all, ten years ago, and with Glenn.

Michael Graves' voice is irritating sometimes.

I saw them in (Memory baaad!) 97....?
It was good show, dont get me wrong, but Graves just isnt Danzig.

I did get to talk to Jerry Only for a few minutes, so that was cool.

It's all about Charles Bronson and Combat Wounded Veteran and Capitalist Casualties, not to forget Orchid, His Hero Is Gone, Pig Destroyer and Neil Perry.

This thread wins.

This thread wins...

... A Pink Post of Doom! :D

... A Pink Post of Doom! :D
:(

Ones that I don't recall having seen mentioned already:

The Plasmatics
The Damned
Bikini Kill (I'd mention more riot grrrl bands, but they might not be considered punk by some, but Bikini Kill definitely is)
Cryptic Slaughter
Government Issue
Dead Milkmen
Lunachicks
Subhumans
AFI
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks

:(

:fluffle:

Does "Me First and the Gimme-Gimmes" count?

:(
Cheer up man!

Yeah
*WORSHIPS BLINK ONE-EIGHTY-TWO!*

Cheer up man!

Yeah
*WORSHIPS BLINK ONE-EIGHTY-TWO!*

:(

:(
*AND SIMPLE PLAN*

The weird thing about punk music is it takes no talent to play it, and it is so highly appreciated. Take the germs for example, they didnt know how to play for shit.

Uh-huh? Certainly some members weren't the most talented at their roles in the band, but I think we can safely say that the intro to No God shows that Pat Smear, at the very least, knew how to play guitar.

missed discharge a few weeks ago, gutted.

You missed nada. They were shite. The problem is that I've seen so many far better D-beat bands just fall out of the back of transit vans: Discharge at present have no edge to them and no real reason for playing other than nostalgia, and that nostalgia is dampened by the sub-par performances they give of their own back catalogue.

I ain't taking about some beatles song, written a hundred years before I was born...

...but who's got the real anti-parent culture sound?

Uh-huh? Certainly some members weren't the most talented at their roles in the band, but I think we can safely say that the intro to No God shows that Pat Smear, at the very least, knew how to play guitar.

Don't forget about the Toy Dolls. Olga's a fricking madman. He's not quite as good as Bob Mould (then again, a lot of guitarists aren't), but he's up there.

Don't forget about the Toy Dolls. Olga's a fricking madman. He's not quite as good as Bob Mould (then again, a lot of guitarists aren't), but he's up there.

The relevance to the Toy Dolls to The Germs is what?

Anti Flag, Dropkick Murphys, NOFX, and the Bouncing Souls were always my favorites......

Yep, Skunk is cool.:cool:
http://www.bear-tracker.com/images/strskunkatrc.jpg

Has anyone mentioned:
Gang of Four
The Only Ones
Magazine
Toy Love

yet?

If not, allow me to wax lyrical about them.
Gnag of Four: best track Anthrax (I found that essence rare a very close 2nd)
The Only Ones: Another Girl, Another Planet - quite possibly the most complete punk song ever
Magazine: Shot from Both Sides, Motorcade, Song from under the Floorboards, The light pours out of me,...pure bloody brillance that is.
Toy Love: Quintessential Kiwi punk band. Listen to Pull Down the Shades and dare to argue that there's better punk songs out there.

The relevance to the Toy Dolls to The Germs is what?

...What?

I was simply stating that there are plenty of good Punk Rock guitarists that one could just name off the top of their head. Thus the "Don't forget about" part.

The bad thing about punk music is is that it has begun to be generic,

Yes, it's almost as if it a genre