NationStates Jolt Archive


Same Woman, Different Photos on Different Dates

Deep Kimchi
07-08-2006, 20:27
Wow, what do you suppose the odds are that the same woman had her apartment destroyed on two different days?

Or do you suppose the news took the pics on the same day, and ran two completely different stories off the same set of pics, hoping that everyone would get a taste for the damage in Lebanon, and maybe get the impression that "gee, it's worse than I thought".

http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com/2006/08/extreme-makeover-beirut-edition.html

Yes, it's a blog. But the pictures are interesting.

Oh, and the Beeb seems to have bought the pics, too.
Call to power
07-08-2006, 20:32
if its true it shows how harsh the conflict is

if its untrue it still shows how harsh the conflict is

Maybe she just likes to show up after bombings to get on the news
Deep Kimchi
07-08-2006, 20:34
if its true it shows how harsh the conflict is

if its untrue it still shows how harsh the conflict is

Maybe she just likes to show up after bombings to get on the news

I thought maybe she was the official wailer for that block or something.
Tactical Grace
07-08-2006, 20:35
Already posted and under discussion in existing omg photoshopping thread.

Meh, posted somewhere. Can't find it now. :rolleyes:
Myrmidonisia
07-08-2006, 20:58
Wow, what do you suppose the odds are that the same woman had her apartment destroyed on two different days?

Or do you suppose the news took the pics on the same day, and ran two completely different stories off the same set of pics, hoping that everyone would get a taste for the damage in Lebanon, and maybe get the impression that "gee, it's worse than I thought".

http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com/2006/08/extreme-makeover-beirut-edition.html

Yes, it's a blog. But the pictures are interesting.

Oh, and the Beeb seems to have bought the pics, too.
But wait. I thought this was all excusable because new services don't maintain foreign bureaus any more.
Deep Kimchi
07-08-2006, 20:59
But wait. I thought this was all excusable because new services don't maintain foreign bureaus any more.
I'm not saying it's excusable - it's just a symptom of budget cutting, and of not giving a fuck about the veracity of the news.

I'm really tired of hearing "oh, mainstream journalism has so much integrity, and blogs are all 100% crap".

Yeah, right.
Myrmidonisia
07-08-2006, 21:22
I'm not saying it's excusable - it's just a symptom of budget cutting, and of not giving a fuck about the veracity of the news.

I'm really tired of hearing "oh, mainstream journalism has so much integrity, and blogs are all 100% crap".

Yeah, right.
If Jason Blair and Dan Rather didn't destroy all of the integrity 'real' journalism had, then Reuters, and now the BBC, have certainly finished the job.

I laugh at the complaints over Fox News. I've never seen a case of bias, let alone a Reuterism, attributed to any newscast on Fox.

This just seems to be epidemic with the reports from the Middle East, doesn't it?
Dinaverg
07-08-2006, 21:26
I laugh at the complaints over Fox News. I've never seen a case of bias, let alone a Reuterism, attributed to any newscast on Fox.

Are we watching the same Fox News? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_%28disambiguation%29)

Serious question.
Wilgrove
07-08-2006, 21:28
Maybe she's hoping to be discovered and used in the new Osama Bin Laden movie?
Kazus
07-08-2006, 21:29
Because its obviously impossible that this woman owns multiple properties in Beirut that have been destroyed.

Looking at the conflict, Id say its quite possible. The pictures do look a little staged though.
Myrmidonisia
07-08-2006, 21:29
Are we watching the same Fox News? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_%28disambiguation%29)

Serious question.
Show me an example of bias in a Fox news report.
Portu Cale MK3
07-08-2006, 21:37
Show me an example of bias in a Fox news report.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067
Cyrian space
07-08-2006, 21:41
Show me an example of bias in a Fox news report.
I remember one time I was watching fox news, and it was about some protest in france. Instead of telling me what the protest was about, or doing any actual reporting, they spent like ten minutes comparing the protest unfavorably to the protests during the french revolution, saying that the protestor's goal wasn't as important as it was during that historical period. As if all protests should only be measured in importance in relationship to the most memorable protests in their country.

They also have a history of doing things like report two protests, one with 100,000 people and one with 100 people, as if they are of the same magnitude, with close in pictures to make it look like a big crowd in the protest they support. (I.E. The Pro War demonstrations.)
Myrmidonisia
07-08-2006, 21:43
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067
I read it and I'm not impressed. I saw a lot of innuendo that because Fox has conservative commentary, it's news must be similarly biased, but not real incidents. I'd appreciated it if you'd pull out the one that you think might be an example of bias.
The Nazz
07-08-2006, 22:50
I read it and I'm not impressed. I saw a lot of innuendo that because Fox has conservative commentary, it's news must be similarly biased, but not real incidents. I'd appreciated it if you'd pull out the one that you think might be an example of bias.
Why should we bother? You'll just brush it off and excuse it. It's not like you've got an open mind on this topic, after all.
Sumamba Buwhan
07-08-2006, 23:18
Show me an example of bias in a Fox news report.

Outfoxed (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002HDXTQ/sr=1-1/qid=1154988885/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2990603-7288860?ie=UTF8&s=dvdhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002HDXTQ/sr=1-1/qid=1154988885/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2990603-7288860?ie=UTF8&s=dvd)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outfoxed
Content
The Jeremy Glick interview -- Top-left: Jeremy Glick speaks about his interview; top-right: Bill O'Reilly tells Glick to "shut up"; bottom-left: O'Reilly cuts Glick's mic and gestures for security to take Glick out of the studio; bottom-right: O'Reilly criticizes Glick the next day, claiming Glick used "vile propaganda"
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The Jeremy Glick interview -- Top-left: Jeremy Glick speaks about his interview; top-right: Bill O'Reilly tells Glick to "shut up"; bottom-left: O'Reilly cuts Glick's mic and gestures for security to take Glick out of the studio; bottom-right: O'Reilly criticizes Glick the next day, claiming Glick used "vile propaganda"

The film uses clips from Fox News broadcasts, leaked network memos and commentary from media critics and former Fox News employees to argue several points:

* Fox News management, including owner Rupert Murdoch and president Roger Ailes, both conservatives, control the network's content. The film includes leaked "issues of the day" memos telling producers which stories and issues should be covered and from what perspective and argues that the memos have a clear ideological underlining. Former employees claim that they were praised for positive coverage of conservatives and negative coverage of liberals and reproached for negative coverage of conservatives and positive coverage of liberals.
* Fox News reporters and anchors who dare to ask tough questions to a Republican or right-wing activist are given negative reprisals such as suspension (one "Outfoxed" panelist describes Fox News as "a Stalinist system")
* Fox News gives much more airtime to speeches by Republican president George W. Bush and his administration than to those by Democrats.
* Fox News hosts such as Brit Hume and Bill O'Reilly purposely blur the line between news anchors and commentators.
* Fox News picks up "talking points" from Republican strategists, such as the accusation that former head of counter-terrorism and Bush critic Richard Clarke is a political opportunist and that Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry is a "flip-flopper," and injects them into its broadcasts.
* Fox News uses sensationalism and scare tactics to keep viewers watching and make them afraid enough to support controversial tactics of the Bush administration.
* Fox News concentrates on the positive aspects of the 2003 war in Iraq and its aftermath and downplays the negative.
* Fox News is having a negative effect on cable news and has led to the hiring of conservative commentators and talk show hosts on other networks (such as MSNBC's Joe Scarborough).
* Fox News purposely features only moderate or fainthearted liberal commentators.
* Fox News hosts such as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity try to intimidate and out-yell liberal guests such as Jeremy Glick.
B0zzy
08-08-2006, 00:30
It is amazing how many people can't tell the difference between news reporting and news analysis.

(walks away shaking head)
Meath Street
08-08-2006, 00:41
It is amazing how many people can't tell the difference between news reporting and news analysis.

(walks away shaking head)
So why is Fox ridiculously biased in their news analysis then?
The Aeson
08-08-2006, 00:45
Looks like two different news sources, not a case of a news source falsifying it...
Myrmidonisia
08-08-2006, 01:16
Why should we bother? You'll just brush it off and excuse it. It's not like you've got an open mind on this topic, after all.
I'd appreciate an effort that wasn't just pulled from a commentary or from a non-news show. Bill O'Reilly doesn't do news. Neither do Hannity and Colmes. Nor is the last half hour of Britt Hume's show. If y'all didn't rely on Jon Stewart to give you the news, maybe this wouldn't be so hard.

All I'm asking for is a simple example of how a Fox _news_ show is biased. If any of you were at all bright, you could propose some indirect examples. I remember seeing charges about how the major networks were slanting the coverage of Vietnam because they didn't spend as large of a proportion of their broadcasts on it as did the newspapers. But you aren't going to do that.
Myrmidonisia
08-08-2006, 01:17
So why is Fox ridiculously biased in their news analysis then?
Because it helps them pay the bills. Why does any news organization have an editorial staff?