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After the fall of Pokemon, many collectors of the cards sold their collections. Others did not, myself included. We hoped that one day in a few decades, Pokemon would come back and we could sell for a nice profit. Apparently, this might not happen. Baseball cards collected in the 80s and before had a similar scenario. People thought they would eventually be worth quite a bit. But, they end up only being worth a little more that the paper they are printed on.

Article (http://www.slate.com/id/2146218/?GT1=8483)

My friend had a quiet large collection in '01, then it was taken from him for getting really out of hand. I wonder what he would have done had they not been taken from him. He'd still probably be collecting more and more. I myself kept my cards in hope that they would one day become popular again for me to sell. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening, so they're just going to sit in a box in my room for a long, long time.

After the fall of Pokemon, many collectors of the cards sold their collections. Others did not, myself included. We hoped that one day in a few decades, Pokemon would come back and we could sell for a nice profit. Apparently, this might not happen. Baseball cards collected in the 80s and before had a similar scenario. People thought they would eventually be worth quite a bit. But, they end up only being worth a little more that the paper they are printed on.

Article (http://www.slate.com/id/2146218/?GT1=8483)

The trick now is to sell your collection to another collector who hasn't caught on to this yet, and still make some sort of a profit.

The trick now is to sell your collection to another collector who hasn't caught on to this yet, and still make some sort of a profit.

My friend said his cousin was just getting it in Poland like last year or something like that.

there are still kids who would walk out in front of a car for my last Charizard (yes I'm a lucky basterd who had 4:D )

all my other cards where burnt in the great purge thanks to me being caught smoking I can still hear my whimpering *shudders* fortunately I got my revenge by going out till about half 11 every night when I was 10

The trick now is to sell your collection to another collector who hasn't caught on to this yet, and still make some sort of a profit.
Papua New Guinea?

there are still kids who would walk out in front of a car for my last Charizard (yes I'm a lucky basterd who had 4:D )

all my other cards where burnt in the great purge thanks to me being caught smoking I can still hear my whimpering *shudders* fortunately I got my revenge by going out till about half 11 every night when I was 10

A purge of the parent's stuff would be better revenge... "accidentaly" smashing the china cabinet, for example. Or burning all of THEIR cigarettes... And yes, I am serious...

there are still kids who would walk out in front of a car for my last Charizard (yes I'm a lucky basterd who had 4:D )

all my other cards where burnt in the great purge thanks to me being caught smoking I can still hear my whimpering *shudders* fortunately I got my revenge by going out till about half 11 every night when I was 10

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there are still kids who would walk out in front of a car for my last Charizard (yes I'm a lucky basterd who had 4:D )

all my other cards where burnt in the great purge thanks to me being caught smoking I can still hear my whimpering *shudders* fortunately I got my revenge by going out till about half 11 every night when I was 10

Oh yeah? I got a Mew card in my very first pack! Sure it was Japanese, but still...

Oh yeah? I got a Mew card in my very first pack! Sure it was Japanese, but still...

Those burn good...:p
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Ways to Dispose of your old Pokemon stuff:
1) Big bonfire. Preferably on Independence Day. Light it with fireworks for more fun.
2) Reuse them. How this would work, I'm not sure... but be creative.
3) Sell them to some younger kid for a couple bucks.
4) Give them to a younger family member.
5) Ebay.
6) Throw them in your rival's pool, but peel off the plstic first...
7) Trash
8) Recycle?
9) A series of small bonfires.
10) Bury them. You can always excavate them later.
11) Cyrogenically freeze the cards.
12) Use them for target practice.

This is good news, maybe people will stop spending so much time and money on little bits of coloured paper.

This is good news, maybe people will stop spending so much time and money on little bits of coloured paper.
Yu-Gi-Oh cards are still popular... and so are poker cards:p .

Pokemon would be popular if Nintendo hadn't ruined the gameplay the best it could.
Though we are trying to make an online one like the Yu Gi Oh virtual desktop.

In fact, buying Pokemon cards may not have been a good idea to begin with.

Anyone that actually bought Pokemon cards deserves to lose their "investment".

Same thing's happened to comics.
Back in the 80's & early 90's mint condition comics of X-Men etc went for a small fortune.
Now, checking on ebay, you can pick most up for sod-all.

Same thing's happened to comics.
Back in the 80's & early 90's mint condition comics of X-Men etc went for a small fortune.
Now, checking on ebay, you can pick most up for sod-all.

That's the thing that started it all really. Old basebeball cards and comic books were starting to go for a LOT of money, and people started to feel the "investment" urge. In fact magazines affiliated with comics began to publish articles about the "next great investment wave", meanwhile people started buying up comics in huge numbers. The companies responded to this by publishing "special edition" comics, with voil or hologram covers, special "numbered" issues, etc etc, anything to make it seem that this comic book the "collector' managed to get his hands on was valuable, rare, and gaurenteed to make money.

Truth is there were MILLIONS of ones just like it being pumped out, compared to far fewer of the genuninely rare comics. Moreover the paper used in those old comics was thin, brittle, and responded poorly to air. The only way to keep them was in special sealed bags to prevent the paper from degrading. Few knew this and the comics, rare to begin with, simply fell apart with age.

Nowadays they're made with far stronger stock, and aren't going anywhere. Moreover everyone knows to "save in the bag" mint conditionizing it. So where before you had limited stock, bad enviornment, and few people with the foresight to take precausion, now you have HUGE stock, far less enviornmental factors, and EVERYONE stocking them up.

Perhaps the biggest example of comic book companies' manipulation to try to sell is the "deat of superman". Back in the 90s, DC comics announced something shocking, superman would die! And everyone rushed out to get this amazing piece of comic book history, gaurenteed to go up in value. Of course DC blitzed the HELL out of the event, produced MASSIVE amounts of comics, saturated the marked to uninformed consumers who were sure THIS one would make them rich....and then in a few months superman was back alive, making this not a momentous event in comic book history, the day the man of steel finally died, but just oen more plotline. The comics were, are, and will remain, effectivly worthless.

This is good news, maybe people will stop spending so much time and money on little bits of coloured paper.
Paper money is little bits of colored paper. Books are little bits of colored paper. Just because oyu couldn't get any good cards doesn't mean you can rain on our parade. :P

I wish you could still play at Toys R Us. I went every Saturday and I miss it. I tried MAgic cards, but no one plays that...maybe I should start a Pokemone retro day at the library and have a tournament. *idea*

I was one of the lucky ones.
I decided to rid myself of dozens of rare Pokemon cards some number of years ago and got $12.00 CDN for the lot.
The following year the very place I sold them to sold it's business and my town was left without any more card shops.

Another year after that and the other arcade in town closed it's doors.
My town has no more card shops or arcades, too bad, childhood memories and all.

Well there is still the shitty arcade in Galaxy Cinemas :rolleyes:

These things come and go in waves. I bet in 10 years people will be talking again about what a great investment opportunity they are. It's just knowing when to sell.

I find myself in the same predicament. I simply collected the cards, watching the value go up. Then, suddenly one day, pokemon died. I now have a completely useless binder of pokemon cards. Course, it's been sitting in... the attic? since before pokemon died in popularity anywho, so no real loss I guess.

I was ok with the article until it mentioned Magic: the Gathering. That, I'm pleased to say, is still going strong, and won't die for many many years to come. Most people fail to remember that Magic was the first of it's kind. All others are mere shadows of Magic. (Which is why most new card games such as Yu-gi-oh and Duel Masters and whatever else they come up with always have ridiculously huge power and defence, cause the small numbers that is attributed to Magic is copywrited. Of course, they can't call it Power and defence either, cause that's what Magic calls it)

cause the small numbers that is attributed to Magic is copywrited. Of course, they can't call it Power and defence either, cause that's what Magic calls it) [/rant]

Do what now? You can not copyright (and it's copyrighted, as in the right to copy, not coypwrited, as in to write the copy) numbers standing alone. Though yes they can copyright the use of the words "power" and "defense" in that context.

You MIGHT have an argument that using small numbers infringes on MTG's TRADEMARK, but not copyright.

Eh, whatever. Same difference. Not gonna argue with you. The concept is the same.

Dang!

Does this also mean that my complete collection of 70s-era Charlies Angels cards will never be worth enough for me to retire on either?



Because you just KNOW that I bought them...... for the investment!

:p

Eh, whatever. Same difference. Not gonna argue with you. The concept is the same.

Well....no, not really. A trademark and a copyright are entirely seperate legal concepts. It's like saying a spleen and a kidney are the same thing..

But it's just a technical difference, one of my pet peeves is that people often say copyright when something can't be copyrighted, and it's really a trademark.

But the general concept in that there could be legal ramifications for copying their scheme is valid.

After the fall of Pokemon, many collectors of the cards sold their collections. Others did not, myself included. We hoped that one day in a few decades, Pokemon would come back and we could sell for a nice profit. Apparently, this might not happen. Baseball cards collected in the 80s and before had a similar scenario. People thought they would eventually be worth quite a bit. But, they end up only being worth a little more that the paper they are printed on.

Article (http://www.slate.com/id/2146218/?GT1=8483)
Baseball cards will always be popular. They have continued to be so for nearly a century. A Willy Mays rookie card may have been worth pennies decades ago, but now that is worth something. In 40 years when Roger Clemens, Frank Thomas, Curt Schilling, Tony Gwynn, and other stars die, those cards I have will be worth something. Baseball cards have lasted over 3 generations and will continue.

But the general concept in that there could be legal ramifications for copying their scheme is valid.

Was my point.

After the fall of Pokemon, many collectors of the cards sold their collections. Others did not, myself included. We hoped that one day in a few decades, Pokemon would come back and we could sell for a nice profit. Apparently, this might not happen. Baseball cards collected in the 80s and before had a similar scenario. People thought they would eventually be worth quite a bit. But, they end up only being worth a little more that the paper they are printed on.

Article (http://www.slate.com/id/2146218/?GT1=8483)

LIES! DIRTY LIES!!! :sniper:

Anyone want to buy my cards? I have several rare, Japanese ones? Anyone? Please? I need to get rid of this shit!

Paper money is little bits of colored paper. Books are little bits of colored paper. Just because oyu couldn't get any good cards doesn't mean you can rain on our parade. :P

I wish you could still play at Toys R Us. I went every Saturday and I miss it. I tried MAgic cards, but no one plays that...maybe I should start a Pokemone retro day at the library and have a tournament. *idea*

I never collected pokemon cards, I always played with toys and still do whenever I venture into shops, last week my 9 year old nephew accused me of being immature.
But pokemon cards always frustrated me, I was very hyperactive and whenever my friends wanted to sit down and swap their shiny cards I got annoyed.

I have a bunch of old pokemon cards from about 4 to 6 years ago when it was very popular I am waiting for Pokemon to get popular again or wait until the cards get very valuable but the waiting is getting very hard. The same thing with my old NES I had one not selling it thinking it would be worth alot of money it isnt they sell for like $40 on Ebay

Baseball cards will always be popular. They have continued to be so for nearly a century. A Willy Mays rookie card may have been worth pennies decades ago, but now that is worth something. In 40 years when Roger Clemens, Frank Thomas, Curt Schilling, Tony Gwynn, and other stars die, those cards I have will be worth something. Baseball cards have lasted over 3 generations and will continue.
I don't know a soul who collects baseball cards.

I don't know a soul who collects baseball cards.


That's exactly what the market needs for about 10 years before it will ever mean anything again.
Then a handfull of kids will have cards from very low print runs, they won't take care of them because they are worthless and any that mange to survive will have value.

Rinse, repeat.

Well....no, not really. A trademark and a copyright are entirely seperate legal concepts. It's like saying a spleen and a kidney are the same thing..
And yet, if I were to tear either one of those organs from your body while you slept, you would die. That tells you something, doesn't it?
I'm not really sure what it says, but I'm just saying . . .

And yet, if I were to tear either one of those organs from your body while you slept, you would die. That tells you something, doesn't it?
I'm not really sure what it says, but I'm just saying . . .
Only in NSG you can find answers like this.

The same thing with my old NES I had one not selling it thinking it would be worth alot of money it isnt they sell for like $40 on Ebay
You have to be pretty dense thinking electronics will appreciate.

I thought they would be worth something in the future...Now that i see it in the future the cards will come alive and talk and our cards will be worth nothing but a grin!

I have so many though...And nice ones too!

I remember telling my friend all along his Pokemon cards weren't going to fund his retirement, sold him some rare cards I had no use for (I played a bit, but never really collected) last year I bought two of his binders for $5 a piece, nostalgia and all. :D

Damn, my get rich slowly scheme isn't going very well. Perhaps I can still rip off some money from some clueless collector on eBay.

Its all about Magic: The Gathering.

How much does a Black Lotus go for now? Like a grand?

EDIT: Apparently 2 G's (http://www.gatheringground.com/store/showproductdetails.asp?product=29521&client=vedOqIHEGOf2fus6dd0F1FOmmE219|15|695925525d)

This thread is a trick to get people to throw away their Pokemon cards - after which, Sel Appa will have a fortune in cards...

Scarcity -/-> Value

Utility --> Value

Alas, too many people are nubs.

Scarcity -/-> Value

Utility --> Value

Well, scarcity does lead something useful to even more value. Look at the Black Lotus.

After the fall of Pokemon, many collectors of the cards sold their collections. Others did not, myself included. We hoped that one day in a few decades, Pokemon would come back and we could sell for a nice profit. Apparently, this might not happen. Baseball cards collected in the 80s and before had a similar scenario. People thought they would eventually be worth quite a bit. But, they end up only being worth a little more that the paper they are printed on.

Article (http://www.slate.com/id/2146218/?GT1=8483)
acutally, the thing to do is to wait. baseball cards in the 80's take a longer time to gain value because the companies glutted the market. how you get more bang for your cards is to keep them sealed and wrapped. if you have a whole box that is unopened, then that's even better.

as for CCG's...

who knows... but Magic cards are still going strong... so who really knows.

Well, scarcity does lead something useful to even more value. Look at the Black Lotus.
wasn't that card banned from tournement events? making it now rare and useless.

I never liked Pokémon to begin with, so I'm not really touched by this issue. Here's my contribution: http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/poke.gif

I never liked Pokémon to begin with, so I'm not really touched by this issue. Here's my contribution: http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/poke.gif

I made the Ways to Liberate Oneself from useless Pokemon cards list earlier in the thread.

That's the thing that started it all really. Old basebeball cards and comic books were starting to go for a LOT of money, and people started to feel the "investment" urge. In fact magazines affiliated with comics began to publish articles about the "next great investment wave", meanwhile people started buying up comics in huge numbers. The companies responded to this by publishing "special edition" comics, with voil or hologram covers, special "numbered" issues, etc etc, anything to make it seem that this comic book the "collector' managed to get his hands on was valuable, rare, and gaurenteed to make money.

Truth is there were MILLIONS of ones just like it being pumped out, compared to far fewer of the genuninely rare comics. Moreover the paper used in those old comics was thin, brittle, and responded poorly to air. The only way to keep them was in special sealed bags to prevent the paper from degrading. Few knew this and the comics, rare to begin with, simply fell apart with age.

Nowadays they're made with far stronger stock, and aren't going anywhere. Moreover everyone knows to "save in the bag" mint conditionizing it. So where before you had limited stock, bad enviornment, and few people with the foresight to take precausion, now you have HUGE stock, far less enviornmental factors, and EVERYONE stocking them up.

Perhaps the biggest example of comic book companies' manipulation to try to sell is the "deat of superman". Back in the 90s, DC comics announced something shocking, superman would die! And everyone rushed out to get this amazing piece of comic book history, gaurenteed to go up in value. Of course DC blitzed the HELL out of the event, produced MASSIVE amounts of comics, saturated the marked to uninformed consumers who were sure THIS one would make them rich....and then in a few months superman was back alive, making this not a momentous event in comic book history, the day the man of steel finally died, but just oen more plotline. The comics were, are, and will remain, effectivly worthless.yep... oh, and the comics will gain in value, it will just take longer. and the time gets longer with each reprinting...

Meh.

Tobacco cards were once worth crap and people said they would never be worth anything.

Disney stuff always seems to hold value. I am amazed at what people will pay for stuff. I worked for the evil empire and people almost start salivating when I describe my promo stuff.

You never can tell what will hold value and what will become valuable.

Its all about Magic: The Gathering.

How much does a Black Lotus go for now? Like a grand?

EDIT: Apparently 2 G's (http://www.gatheringground.com/store/showproductdetails.asp?product=29521&client=vedOqIHEGOf2fus6dd0F1FOmmE219|15|695925525d)

Seriously? I have a lotus and 2 moxes. (real moxes.)

I never figured there would be someone stupid enough to pay that much money for one.


Of course, I'll only believe it when someone actually pays a couple of grand for my black lotus.


And I've never owned a Pokeman card in my life just so everyone knows. :p

And I've never owned a Pokeman card in my life just so everyone knows. :p

Ditto! :)

But my pog collection will increase in worth, right? right?!?

But my pog collection will increase in worth, right? right?!?

Pogs?!


Jesus, even pog collectors were laughing at pogs! I mean, didn't they have 'warning, this is a useless fad, don't waste your money on this shit' printed in small type on each and every one of those things?

But my pog collection will increase in worth, right? right?!?

*points and laughs, then walks off*

Pogs?? Weren't those invented in, like, 200 AD? Come now. Join us in the 3rd millenium AD (for those who think it is the 2nd, it goes 0/1-999, 1000-1999, and now 2000-2999 (the 3rd)). It is nice here. We have outhouses and food prep areas IN the house. And we also move around on horseless wheeled carts and use thought machines to talk over the lightning-powered communication mesh of glass tubes. And we have:
-rock and powder that burns
-clothes that don't burn
ANd
-exploding metal.

Join us in the year 2006 AD.

Pogs?? Weren't those invented in, like, 200 AD? Come now. Join us in the 3rd millenium AD (for those who think it is the 2nd, it goes 0/1-999, 1000-1999, and now 2000-2999 (the 3rd)). It is nice here. We have outhouses and food prep areas IN the house. And we also move around on horseless wheeled carts and use thought machines to talk over the lightning-powered communication mesh of glass tubes. And we have:
-rock and powder that burns
-clothes that don't burn
ANd
-exploding metal.

Join us in the year 2006 AD.

Uh, I'm still happy partying like it's 1999 okay? I'm quite happy in the 20th century, thank you very much!

Uh, I'm still happy partying like it's 1999 okay? I'm quite happy in the 20th century, thank you very much!

I think everyone was.

Uh, I'm still happy partying like it's 1999 okay? I'm quite happy in the 20th century, thank you very much!

How about I send back my minions and take you to the 4th millenium??

Chauncie, Jones, go on my command. **Prepares negative energy space-time transporter device.**

How about I send back my minions and take you to the 4th millenium??

Chauncie, Jones, go on my command. **Prepares negative energy space-time transporter device.**

Sounds like you were too busy reading sci-fi shit to be invited to the millenium party. So sorry...

*hands Minaris a post-millenium brewskie*

Sounds like you were too busy reading sci-fi shit to be invited to the millenium party. So sorry...

*hands Minaris a post-millenium brewskie*

Giovanni, Luigi, Antonio, take our friend Mikesburg down by the docks for a chat... and the rope, cement, bucket, water, tape, and stirring stick are with the bat in the back of the trunk.

Seriously? I have a lotus and 2 moxes. (real moxes.)

I never figured there would be someone stupid enough to pay that much money for one.

I'm not. :p

If I really want to use a ridiculously overpowered card in a Type 1 game, I'd just proxy them for casual play. Given that competitive Type 1 is pretty much nothing more than cash+luck, it's just not worth it.

Giovanni, Luigi, Antonio, take our friend Mikesburg down by the docks for a chat... and the rope, cement, bucket, water, tape, and stirring stick are with the bat in the back of the trunk.

Pffft... That's so 1928....

I'm not. :p

If I really want to use a ridiculously overpowered card in a Type 1 game, I'd just proxy them for casual play. Given that competitive Type 1 is pretty much nothing more than cash+luck, it's just not worth it.

There are people who still play Type 1 competitively? What's the point? There's no competition there... just a buch of old folks with old cards....

*shuffles off to old folks home*

Pffft... That's so 1928....

Ok fine... Gio! Tony! Luigi! Proceed to take Mikesburg to the last restaurant he'll ever eat at... you know what to do.

Ok fine... Gio! Tony! Luigi! Proceed to take Mikesburg to the last restaurant he'll ever eat at... you know what to do.

The last restaurant ever?! The restaurant at the End of the Universe was written in the 80's unless I'm mistaken...

I think you're still stuck in the 20th too my friend...

come on back, it's fun here! We're still making fun of Gorby's birthmark!

The last restaurant ever?! The restaurant at the End of the Universe was written in the 80's unless I'm mistaken...

I think you're still stuck in the 20th too my friend...

come on back, it's fun here! We're still making fun of Gorby's birthmark!

I meant that they would poison you or shoot you, but...

Fine. Send the Air Force to drop a MOAB on his [static noise], First Squadrant. Are we clear?

...

Ok. Good.

There are people who still play Type 1 competitively? What's the point? There's no competition there... just a buch of old folks with old cards....

Yeah, but it's not taking off. Type 1 is as popular now as it was when it started; it's just too damn expensive to get in to and there's too few players from the early 90's who have the cards anymore.

They're old folks with old cards that are worth as much as a used car...for me, if it costs more than $5-10 for a single, I won't buy it. I mean, you can get a box for $70 and take your chances of getting the card (as well as get the commons and uncommons you need) for the price of four Urza's Rage back in 2000.

*shuffles off to old folks home*

I first started in 1999, stopped playing in 2003, and now I'm starting again now that the godawful blocs of the past few years are done and gone and the game is resembling the good old days of Urza/Masques/Invasion.

What does that make me...reincarnated? Or regenerated? :confused:

Yeah, but it's not taking off. Type 1 is as popular now as it was when it started; it's just too damn expensive to get in to and there's too few players from the early 90's who have the cards anymore.

They're old folks with old cards that are worth as much as a used car...for me, if it costs more than $5-10 for a single, I won't buy it. I mean, you can get a box for $70 and take your chances of getting the card (as well as get the commons and uncommons you need) for the price of four Urza's Rage back in 2000.



I first started in 1999, stopped playing in 2003, and now I'm starting again now that the godawful blocs of the past few years are done and gone and the game is resembling the good old days of Urza/Masques/Invasion.

What does that make me...reincarnated? Or regenerated? :confused:

It makes you nostalgic... just try some SPORE. That will keep you straight.

Yeah, but it's not taking off. Type 1 is as popular now as it was when it started; it's just too damn expensive to get in to and there's too few players from the early 90's who have the cards anymore.

They're old folks with old cards that are worth as much as a used car...for me, if it costs more than $5-10 for a single, I won't buy it. I mean, you can get a box for $70 and take your chances of getting the card (as well as get the commons and uncommons you need) for the price of four Urza's Rage back in 2000.



I first started in 1999, stopped playing in 2003, and now I'm starting again now that the godawful blocs of the past few years are done and gone and the game is resembling the good old days of Urza/Masques/Invasion.

What does that make me...reincarnated? Or regenerated? :confused:

Let's see, I started playing when Beta came out, and aquired my black lotus for a frankenstein's monster and a 'twiddle'. I actually paid cash for one of my moxes, and doubted the investment at the time.

Of course, I never get to play. But I love the game nonetheless. Not in a rush to sell my cards. (Unless someone makes me a serious $1500+ offer for a single card. I'm not totally principled...)

Here's how much my Charizard was worth in 1998-2006:

1998: $49
1999: $100
March 2000: $220
April 2000: $225
September 2000: $240
January 2001: $260
October 2001: $235
June 2002: $175
February 2004: $90
August 2006: $79

It's like a tech stock...:(

I meant that they would poison you or shoot you, but...

Fine. Send the Air Force to drop a MOAB on his [static noise], First Squadrant. Are we clear?

...

Ok. Good.

Sorry, didn't hear you. Still breaking down the Iron Curtain back here.

I got stuck in that damn Jesus Jones song. He sang 'Right here, right now, there is no other place, I want to be'. And here I am. Back in the late 80's, early 90's.

There's this catchy new song by Nirvana that just came out...

Here's how much my Charizard was worth in 1998-2006:

1998: $49
1999: $100
March 2000: $220
April 2000: $225
September 2000: $240
January 2001: $260
October 2001: $235
June 2002: $175
February 2004: $90
August 2006: $79

It's like a tech stock...:(

You mean the white card that plays a 'game within a game'? (Shahrizahd, or something like that). Got one of those. It's fun!

Sorry, didn't hear you. Still breaking down the Iron Curtain back here.

I got stuck in that damn Jesus Jones song. He sang 'Right here, right now, there is no other place, I want to be'. And here I am. Back in the late 80's, early 90's.

There's this catchy new song by Nirvana that just came out...

**Goes back in time and destroys the Iron Curtain**

Stop yer [beeeeeeep] THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN CEASED BY THE PC POLICE DUE TO ITS "SLIGHT" NON-PC CONTENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PC-ITY.

Let's see, I started playing when Beta came out, and aquired my black lotus for a frankenstein's monster and a 'twiddle'. I actually paid cash for one of my moxes, and doubted the investment at the time.

I really feel sorry for you...trading a Lotus for a $4 Frankenstein's Monster (from The Dark, no less!) and a $1 Twiddle when the Lotus is cracking $2,600 (probably 3k in another year or so) has got to hurt.Depending on the edition, Mox, and condition you could get between $400-$1000 for each of your Moxes...that purchase pretty much redeems your Lotus trade.

At least you didn't trade the Lotus for a box of Homelands like a person I knew in Cincinnati. :eek:

Of course, I never get to play. But I love the game nonetheless. Not in a rush to sell my cards. (Unless someone makes me a serious $1500+ offer for a single card. I'm not totally principled...)

That's where the proxies step in. :cool:

Unfortunately, the only game store in Mentor that had Arena League/FNM closed and now I'd have to make a 30-45minute drive to get to the nearest store. A good thing is that my college schedule's pretty convienent so I can be able to get back in to it without a lot of trouble.

**Goes back in time and destroys the Iron Curtain**

Stop yer [beeeeeeep] THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN CEASED BY THE PC POLICE DUE TO ITS "SLIGHT" NON-PC CONTENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PC-ITY.

Well that's another good thing of pre-21st century living. PC meant personal computer to most people, and the idea of 'Political Correctness' was kind of a new thing. People generally said what they meant.

You're really making it hard for me to want to break that damn millenium barrier. I hear that my computer will crash the moment the year 2000 hits. Planes will fall from the sky and shit. It will be the end of civilization as we know it because we were too lazy to puy 4 digits where we could get away with 2.

(And that folks, for those of you not stuck in the 20th, is how the world will end; not because of some nefarious evil-doer, but due to the 'in-action' of some dude who didn't dot their 'i' or cross thier 't' when they should have. Good luck folks. I'm going back to the A-Team.)

I really feel sorry for you...trading a Lotus for a $4 Frankenstein's Monster (from The Dark, no less!) and a $1 Twiddle when the Lotus is cracking $2,600 (probably 3k in another year or so) has got to hurt.Depending on the edition, Mox, and condition you could get between $400-$1000 for each of your Moxes...that purchase pretty much redeems your Lotus trade.

At least you didn't trade the Lotus for a box of Homelands like a person I knew in Cincinnati. :eek:



That's where the proxies step in. :cool:

Unfortunately, the only game store in Mentor that had Arena League/FNM closed and now I'd have to make a 30-45minute drive to get to the nearest store. A good thing is that my college schedule's pretty convienent so I can be able to get back in to it without a lot of trouble.

No, you misunderstand me. I have the lotus. The other dude has the frankenstien's monster. :D

You mean the white card that plays a 'game within a game'? (Shahrizahd, or something like that). Got one of those. It's fun!

No, sadly it's the Pokemon...I was only 10 years old and young and foolish, okay! I started Pokemon in 1998 but then lost interest when I discovered Magic but I still kept the cards I had; I got Charizard in my first booster and wanted to sell it but I never got around to it.

I know what you mean though...good old Shahrazad. That pretty much guaranteed you a ban from emperor games if you played it; I remember someone played it and it ended up adding two more hours to the game.

Shahrazad's still doing pretty well...it'll set you back about $60. Not bad for a card that hasn't seen competitive play in 13 years.

No, you misunderstand me. I have the lotus. The other dude has the frankenstien's monster. :D

You bastard...:D

However, the Frankenstein's Monster is still a better deal than the box of Homelands...12 years later and it's still worthless.

You bastard...:D

However, the Frankenstein's Monster is still a better deal than the box of Homelands...12 years later and it's still worthless.

Jeese...

Was that twelve years ago? Way to make a dude feel old...

(And it sucked back then too.)


Hmmm... I think I might have to go and make an old guy thread now....

Why dont you guys take up drinking and girls like normal people? ;)

Why dont you guys take up drinking and girls like normal people? ;)

Some of us take up drinking, girls and collectable card games.

(Mind you, some of those girls are pretty scary.... drives you to drink more!)

Well that's another good thing of pre-21st century living. PC meant personal computer to most people, and the idea of 'Political Correctness' was kind of a new thing. People generally said what they meant.

You're really making it hard for me to want to break that damn millenium barrier. I hear that my computer will crash the moment the year 2000 hits. Planes will fall from the sky and shit. It will be the end of civilization as we know it because we were too lazy to puy 4 digits where we could get away with 2.

(And that folks, for those of you not stuck in the 20th, is how the world will end; not because of some nefarious evil-doer, but due to the 'in-action' of some dude who didn't dot their 'i' or cross thier 't' when they should have. Good luck folks. I'm going back to the A-Team.)

Your computer will be fine. Trust me.

Now come to the 3rd millenium. On you way to 2006, watch as Dick Cheney shoots a guy in the face. And watch Bush give the US a multi-trillion dollar debt.

Seriously? I have a lotus and 2 moxes. (real moxes.)

I never figured there would be someone stupid enough to pay that much money for one.


Of course, I'll only believe it when someone actually pays a couple of grand for my black lotus.

Moxes probably go for about a G. If you have a Limited Beta Lotus, youre rich.

Moxes probably go for about a G. If you have a Limited Beta Lotus, youre rich.

Mine's not quite mint, but it's definitely a Beta. Actually played with it before they started coming out with plastic sleeves for the cards.

Of course, these things are only worth what people will actually pay for them.

I might have to check some of the local vendors though...

You have to be pretty dense thinking electronics will appreciate.

So, you'll sell me that stock of 1960's valve amps that you have mouldering in your basement for what...? A buck a piece for the AC30's? Throwin the WEM Copycat and we'll have a deal.

Pogs?? Weren't those invented in, like, 200 AD? Come now. Join us in the 3rd millenium AD (for those who think it is the 2nd, it goes 0/1-999, 1000-1999, and now 2000-2999 (the 3rd)).

Ha. Your own pedantry has been your own downfall: there was no year 0. Hoist on your own petard...

Mine's not quite mint, but it's definitely a Beta. Actually played with it before they started coming out with plastic sleeves for the cards.

Of course, these things are only worth what people will actually pay for them.

I might have to check some of the local vendors though...

Mint is helpful, but even low quality will still rack up $$$.

But my pog collection will increase in worth, right? right?!?
well, considering my "Pogs" as they are called nowadays... (man I feel old :( ) are the covers of milk bottles that no longer exsists... they might be worth something...

Why dont you guys take up drinking and girls like normal people? ;)
simple, can't stand Alcohol and haven't found a gal who wants to go out with me.

Mine's not quite mint, but it's definitely a Beta. Actually played with it before they started coming out with plastic sleeves for the cards.

Of course, these things are only worth what people will actually pay for them.

I might have to check some of the local vendors though...
E-bay.

simple, can't stand Alcohol and haven't found a gal who wants to go out with me.

Ahhhh!

One of those afraid to not be in control types?

...and haven't found a gal who wants to go out with me.

E-bay.

Ahhhh!

One of those afraid to not be in control types?
well, if I ever had any control to begin with... :D

nah, just hate the taste of the stuff.

E-bay.
tried it, guess I wasn't offering enough tho...

tried it, guess I wasn't offering enough tho...

It is very expensive... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

now what am i gonna do with my fraggle rock and spider ham comics? :mad:

now what am i gonna do with my fraggle rock and spider ham comics? :mad:

Apply my 12 methods of disposing Pokemon cards to them... it works for almost anything toylike in nature.

For the record, the list is:

Ways to Dispose of your old Pokemon stuff:
1) Big bonfire. Preferably on Independence Day. Light it with fireworks for more fun.
2) Reuse them. How this would work, I'm not sure... but be creative.
3) Sell them to some younger kid for a couple bucks.
4) Give them to a younger family member.
5) Ebay.
6) Throw them in your rival's pool (but peel off the plastic first in the case of cards)

7) Trash
8) Recycle?
9) A series of small bonfires.
10) Bury them. You can always excavate them later.
11) Cyrogenically freeze the cards.
12) Use them for target practice.

now what am i gonna do with my fraggle rock and spider ham comics? :mad:
I know a couple of... er... send them to me, in fact, I'll be nice and pay for the shipping... :D

After the fall of Pokemon, many collectors of the cards sold their collections. Others did not, myself included. We hoped that one day in a few decades, Pokemon would come back and we could sell for a nice profit. Apparently, this might not happen. Baseball cards collected in the 80s and before had a similar scenario. People thought they would eventually be worth quite a bit. But, they end up only being worth a little more that the paper they are printed on.

Article (http://www.slate.com/id/2146218/?GT1=8483)

I have a charizard with a mis-print. That has to be worth something. Right?

I have a charizard with a mis-print. That has to be worth something. Right?
nope absolutely worthless... better send both to me. :cool:

nope absolutely worthless... better send both to me. :cool:

L0L! N0!

I don't ever plan on my pokemon cards being worth anything. When I'm older and
have kids, I'll give them to them when they're old enough. Most old things are always worth something, whether popular or not.

That's exactly what the market needs for about 10 years before it will ever mean anything again.
Then a handfull of kids will have cards from very low print runs, they won't take care of them because they are worthless and any that mange to survive will have value.

Rinse, repeat.
BINGO! That has been the cycle for nearly a century. Baseball cards will be around forever.

Let me put it this way. Or better yet, I'll have Terrence Mahn speak for me:

Terence Mann: Ray, people will come Ray. They'll come to Iowa for reasons they can't even fathom. They'll turn up your driveway not knowing for sure why they're doing it. They'll arrive at your door as innocent as children, longing for the past. Of course, we won't mind if you look around, you'll say. It's only $20 per person. They'll pass over the money without even thinking about it: for it is money they have and peace they lack. And they'll walk out to the bleachers; sit in shirtsleeves on a perfect afternoon. They'll find they have reserved seats somewhere along one of the baselines, where they sat when they were children and cheered their heroes. And they'll watch the game and it'll be as if they dipped themselves in magic waters. The memories will be so thick they'll have to brush them away from their faces. People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.

i see everyones' point but when you were a kid wasn't it fun... i mean seriously can any one person that collected them at one point tell me that they didnt go off and brag to all of thier friends about a rare card that they got in a pack or at a card place.... i do realise how much money i would have saved if i had stopped when my parents told me too:headbang: .... man i hate it when their right...... but back to the subject... y did we buy them in the first place?????:headbang: i mean they're never gunna be worth anything they have made to many of them.... now all we really can do is throw them away or save them and hope that they become worth something....im probly just gunna take them out to the country and blow them up.... so im gunna go have me some fun... Yee-haw:D