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Are there any dialects of English?

Greater Alemannia
06-08-2006, 13:04
Just thought that. Are there any unique dialects that are difficult to understand by speakers of normal English?
Dissonant Cognition
06-08-2006, 13:07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dialects_of_the_English_language
Refused Party Program
06-08-2006, 13:07
I gather that the Pope shits in the woods.
Non Aligned States
06-08-2006, 13:08
Certainly, it differs according to the location. There's Scotlish, Ausilish, Singlish and Manglish. :p
Greater Alemannia
06-08-2006, 13:08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dialects_of_the_English_language

It's a pretty far stretch to call many of those dialects. Most are just accents.
BackwoodsSquatches
06-08-2006, 13:10
Indeed there are.

England has several.

Want to see confusion?
Watch an American talk to someone with a thick Cockney accent.

Or..in America..see:

Pennsylvania Dutch.
Refused Party Program
06-08-2006, 13:10
It's a pretty far stretch to call many of those dialects. Most are just accents.


You've never been to Liverpool, have you?
Pure Metal
06-08-2006, 13:10
Just thought that. Are there any unique dialects that are difficult to understand by speakers of normal English?
cornish springs to mind
as does yorkshire

...american? ;)
Jello Biafra
06-08-2006, 13:11
I think anyone who uses rhyming slang would be difficult to understand by those of us who don't.
Rubiconic Crossings
06-08-2006, 13:12
Off the top of my head -

Geordie
Yorkshire
Mancunian
Glaswegian
Cockney
Black Country
East Anglian

I am sure there are more....and these are not accents as they have specific word usage for each of those dialects...
Harlesburg
06-08-2006, 13:12
Scouse?
Wallonochia
06-08-2006, 13:19
When I was in the Army I knew a pair of young newlyweds, one from Massachussetts, the other from backwoods Louisiana. I'm still convinced that the reason they get along so well is that neither of them understand what the hell the other one is saying.
Rubiconic Crossings
06-08-2006, 13:34
cornish springs to mind
as does yorkshire

...american? ;)

I think Cornish is actually a seperate language like Welsh....???
Kapsilan
06-08-2006, 13:35
...american? ;)

"Americans and English are two peoples separated by a common language"

I dunno, Louisianans, Pennsylvania Dutch, those are both really hard to understand, but are branded English. I feel that most Americans have a hard time understanding the Irish.
New Peeland
06-08-2006, 13:45
I guess Bristolian is just an accent...although we have words we use that others dont.

That be Bristle (http://www.thatbebristle.co.uk/)
Super-power
06-08-2006, 13:58
Does 1337 count as an English dialect? :D
The Aeson
06-08-2006, 14:01
Laundry repairman?
Katganistan
06-08-2006, 14:24
http://www.umass.edu/linguist/undergraduate_program/Walt_Wofram.pdf

http://www.ocracoke-nc.com/history/

Yup, there are dialects. Even in American English.
Turquoise Days
06-08-2006, 14:35
Geordie! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordie)
Greater Alemannia
06-08-2006, 14:36
Can someone give me an example of a dialect? Let me see for myself.
The Aeson
06-08-2006, 14:37
Geordie! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordie)

Yep! Geordie! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordi_La_Forge)

And all those other technobabbly people.
Katganistan
06-08-2006, 14:39
Can someone give me an example of a dialect? Let me see for myself.

....

Click the links?
Greater Alemannia
06-08-2006, 14:42
....

Click the links?

I did. I haven't seen any specific examples of dialects.
Fartsniffage
06-08-2006, 14:49
I did. I haven't seen any specific examples of dialects.

* canny for "pleasant" (the Scottish use of canny is often somewhat less flattering),
* hyem for "home",
* deeky for "look at",
* ket for "sweets/treats",
* knaa for "to know/know",
* divn't for "don't",
* bairn/grandbairn for "child/grandchild",
* hacky for "dirty",
* gan for "to go/go".
* toon for "Town"

In the Geordie link.
Bodies Without Organs
06-08-2006, 14:50
I did. I haven't seen any specific examples of dialects.

Yan, Tan, Tether, Mether, Pip, Azer, Sazer, Akker, Conter, Dick, Yanadick, Tanadick, Tetheradick, Metheradick, Bumfit, Yanabum, Tanabum, Tetherabum, Metherabum, Jiggit.
Fartsniffage
06-08-2006, 14:51
Yan, Tan, Tether, Mether, Pip, Azer, Sazer, Akker, Conter, Dick, Yanadick, Tanadick, Tetheradick, Metheradick, Bumfit, Yanabum, Tanabum, Tetherabum, Metherabum, Jiggit.

Where the hell are you from? :confused:
Bodies Without Organs
06-08-2006, 14:56
Where the hell are you from? :confused:

Northern Ireland, but that one is from Yorkshire.
Jello Biafra
06-08-2006, 15:00
How many uses of different words does there have to be before it becomes its own dialect?
Bodies Without Organs
06-08-2006, 15:02
How many uses of different words does there have to be before it becomes its own dialect?

Seven and a half.
Greater Alemannia
06-08-2006, 15:03
How many uses of different words does there have to be before it becomes its own dialect?

I'd say that the basics have to be a bit different. I'm not sure if there's a specific line that it needs to cross to be a dialect.
Jello Biafra
06-08-2006, 15:04
Seven and a half.Lol.
Katganistan
06-08-2006, 15:04
Main Entry: ac·cent
Pronunciation: 'ak-"sent, chiefly British -s&nt
Function: noun
1 : an articulative effort giving prominence to one syllable over adjacent syllables; also : the prominence thus given a syllable
2 : a distinctive manner of expression: as a : an individual's distinctive or characteristic inflection, tone, or choice of words -- usually used in plural b : a way of speaking typical of a particular group of people and especially of the natives or residents of a region
3 : rhythmically significant stress on the syllables of a verse usually at regular intervals
4 archaic : UTTERANCE
5 a : a mark (as ´, `, ^) used in writing or printing to indicate a specific sound value, stress, or pitch, to distinguish words otherwise identically spelled, or to indicate that an ordinarily mute vowel should be pronounced b : an accented letter
6 a : greater stress given to one musical tone than to its neighbors b : ACCENT MARK 2
7 a : emphasis laid on a part of an artistic design or composition b : an emphasized detail or area; especially : a small detail in sharp contrast with its surroundings c : a substance or object used for emphasis
8 : a mark placed to the right of a letter or number and usually slightly above it: as a : a double prime b : PRIME
9 : special concern or attention : EMPHASIS <an accent on youth>
- ac·cent·less /-l&s/ adjective



dialect

Main Entry: di·a·lect
Pronunciation: 'dI-&-"lekt
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle French dialecte, from Latin dialectus, from Greek dialektos conversation, dialect, from dialegesthai to converse -- more at DIALOGUE
1 a : a regional variety of language distinguished by features of vocabulary, grammar, and pronunciation from other regional varieties and constituting together with them a single language <the Doric dialect of ancient Greek> b : one of two or more cognate languages <French and Italian are Romance dialects> c : a variety of a language used by the members of a group <such dialects as politics and advertising -- Philip Howard> d : a variety of language whose identity is fixed by a factor other than geography (as social class) <spoke a rough peasant dialect> e : REGISTER 4c f : a version of a computer programming language
2 : manner or means of expressing oneself : PHRASEOLOGY
- di·a·lec·tal /"dI-&-'lek-t&l/ adjective
- di·a·lec·tal·ly /-t&-lE/ adverb


In case anyone is not sure of the difference.
Rubiconic Crossings
06-08-2006, 15:04
Seven and a half.

and three quarters :p
Turquoise Days
06-08-2006, 15:05
Yan, Tan, Tether, Mether, Pip, Azer, Sazer, Akker, Conter, Dick, Yanadick, Tanadick, Tetheradick, Metheradick, Bumfit, Yanabum, Tanabum, Tetherabum, Metherabum, Jiggit.
Isn't that old celtic counting? Different language?
Bodies Without Organs
06-08-2006, 15:08
Isn't that old celtic counting? Different language?

A modern survival of Cumbric with local variations, which itself was a dialect of Celtic, apparently.
Turquoise Days
06-08-2006, 15:15
A modern survival of Cumbric with local variations, which itself was a dialect of Celtic, apparently.
That's it, I was reading about Cumbrian Shepherds recently, and apparently some still count their sheep that way.
Demented Hamsters
06-08-2006, 15:23
Ah tek it ya neva hed o Scots ya auld weegie Ba'-heid.
Aye, ya mus be a tattie bogle or sumthink.
Gaun, haverway n shite ya hee haw!

Scottish Vernacular (http://www.firstfoot.com/php/glossary/phpglossar_0.8/index.php?letter=a)
Farnhamia
06-08-2006, 15:30
Or, as Lerner and Loewe, via Shaw, put it:

Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?
This verbal class distinction by now should be antique.
If you spoke as she does, sir, Instead of the way you do,
Why, you might be selling flowers, too.
An Englishman's way of speaking absolutely classifies him,
The moment he talks he makes some other
Englishman despise him.
One common language I'm afraid we'll never get.
Oh, why can't the English learn to set
A good example to people whose
English is painful to your ears?
The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears.
There even are places where English completely
disappears. In America, they haven't used it for years!
Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?
Norwegians learn Norwegian; the Greeks have taught their
Greek. In France every Frenchman knows
his language fro "A" to "Zed"
(The French never care what they do, actually,
as long as they pronounce it properly).
Arabians learn Arabian with the speed of summer lightning.
And Hebrews learn it backwards,
which is absolutely frightening.
But use proper English you're regarded as a freak.
Why can't the English,
Why can't the English learn to speak?
:D
Andaluciae
06-08-2006, 15:31
Pennsylvania Dutch.
Pshah, that's German.
Demented Hamsters
06-08-2006, 15:33
dialekky of Inglis?
Nogat mi harim bilong sampela dialekky Inglis, paniman.

Pidgin vernacular (http://www.june29.com/HLP/lang/pidgin.html)
Bodies Without Organs
06-08-2006, 15:39
Pidgin vernacular (http://www.june29.com/HLP/lang/pidgin.html)

Miksmasta blong Jisas?
Free Mercantile States
06-08-2006, 16:03
Just thought that. Are there any unique dialects that are difficult to understand by speakers of normal English?

In America, Ebonics would be the only substantially differentiated dialect I could think of. If I had to pick a second one, I'd say very thick, rural Southern accents. In England, the Scots are the obvious choice.
New Stalinberg
06-08-2006, 16:05
"Americans and English are two peoples separated by a common language"

I dunno, Louisianans, Pennsylvania Dutch, those are both really hard to understand, but are branded English. I feel that most Americans have a hard time understanding the Irish.

That's because they're always drunk!
Katganistan
06-08-2006, 16:17
Or, as Lerner and Loewe, via Shaw, put it:


:D


My Fair Lady is one of my faves.
Celtlund
06-08-2006, 16:20
Indeed there are.

England has several.

Want to see confusion?
Watch an American talk to someone with a thick Cockney accent.

Or..in America..see:

Pennsylvania Dutch.

South Louisiania Cajun English. Wow!
Celtlund
06-08-2006, 16:22
When I was in the Army I knew a pair of young newlyweds, one from Massachussetts, the other from backwoods Louisiana. I'm still convinced that the reason they get along so well is that neither of them understand what the hell the other one is saying.

Sounds like my wife and I. I was from Boston and she was from rural Alabama. We learned how to speak to each other in Northwest Louisiana. :p
Celtlund
06-08-2006, 16:30
In America, Ebonics would be the only substantially differentiated dialect I could think of. If I had to pick a second one, I'd say very thick, rural Southern accents. In England, the Scots are the obvious choice.

You've never been to South Louisiana or Nothern Maine have you.
Demented Hamsters
06-08-2006, 16:39
One of my favourite Tricky songs:

Ghetto Youth


Yeah
Me's a ghetto youth
Me come from straight dung ina the ghetto
Seen, Rockfort, Warica
Seen, Matches Lane
Jungle Heights
all I and I are one.
Me a tell ya
All Bull Bay Heights and dem heights dey.
Yeah
wick dem up
Seen, I you a hear me
Wicked ina de ghetto mi bredda
Wicked to the mass
And you done know the man have youth and youth
a come up
And you see when
And the father drop out
Dem no know no father so dem come up tun gunman.
Me done know, because a so de ghetto
run a so the politician do it
dem bring in a bag a gun
and barrage a ting and seen run pon youth and then
when you check it out.
Dem send dem police friend to come for dem gun
And dem say dem not running gun and dem tings deh.
And bere tings in a ghetto
Seen, man no stop kill man.
Seen, man no stop rob man.
A no dem tings deh we want ina Jamaica
We want love, unity, seen, strength and energy.
Yeah, we want a whole heap of things to go on for the ghetto youth all
next year.
You done know me as one a dem uprighting ghetto youth,
Seen, so we a start from way down dey so.
We no just a come from no way and a come up ya so
A way dung de so man a come from.
Say man a come way from the rock, when me say de rock, me mean the rock,
Seen, Them a [??] and them come to the [??] industrial [??] caribbean
country [??]
We no got no royalty, know what me say?
Yeah, get up in a place them call [?]
Them sitting in a store.
Gas with plane, gas to this, gas to that, gas to everything.
Ever have a little fire get wet?
Wow, them has not said a word.
I a don't know my little friend over there sir.
Sure when all left [??]
See Tricky?
[??] old things.
I a do know ya up front man.
Yes me brother, Sky the yes sir.
[??] I tell ya, the youth.
Ya'll god bless [??], trust me.
I wanna show ya'll a thing about the ghetto.
See the ghetto is a case a pop
lollipop
all of them pop there.
Yeah, I and I a juggle them from nine from down yes sir.
See ya know just call me sister [?]
See ya don't know man no ghetto youth, see?
Straight boy original, see?
Yeah, and noboby can fool and nobody can come use we.
Yeah, that's the way we run things.
We just steal a thing, we sell suck suck on them thing.
Them thing come and them thing star and [??] enquire [??] for earn our
own paper.
Yeah, [??] get we boy to come tell about 6 to 6 and 6 to 12.
And after this and after that you drink champagne and cut off you foot.
In a place something on that ya see [??]
When them work them weary.
That's how the ghetto youth live.
That's why them ever try to elevate us, I and I ya see?
Ya know I and I elevate out of the slum.
[??]
Se we me people we make use of that ya see?
Our mother and our father never have nothing, from way down there sir.
Trust me me brother.
See that's how I and I come up.
Go to school without lunch money and them sitting there.
That's why I no love nobody else.
One good thing I love about the little youth they're a [??] and a friend
me brother.
I tell ya, [??] or anything ya want.
I and I know.
I live with it.
I live with it, ya see?
Reality a reality see?
We no promote none of them boy over there sir.
See them stay over one side and go and eat them [?] and drink them what
they wanna drink them.
Where ya going [??]
There is one thing and kick back and go and meditate and see?
Yeah, live with people me people live with we.
Ya know what me say?
Yeah, 'cause when I tell ya me brother, see there be chain of [??] them
a go under see?
Babylon release the train but them [?] is them brain see?
Trust me.
That's why I and I goes with them see?
God with it them build big pretty church and no build no school.
Sung by some guy called Sky. Hard to understand, even without hearing his extremely thick Jamacian accent.
Daistallia 2104
06-08-2006, 16:55
Just thought that. Are there any unique dialects that are difficult to understand by speakers of normal English?

No. That's why various films from the UK, such as Train Spotting, Snatch, and the like don't need subtitles to be understood in the US....

(What was that? They do? Those ands several other films I'ves seen in "English were subtitled due to extreme dialectical differences? Who'd of imagined!)

Greater Alemannia, for this and your (stupid) ignorance in your Chinese thread, you win the language arts ignorance of the week award.
Potarius
06-08-2006, 17:02
No. That's why various films from the UK, such as Train Spotting, Snatch, and the like don't need subtitles to be understood in the US....

(What was that? They do? Those ands several other films I'ves seen in "English were subtitled due to extreme dialectical differences? Who'd of imagined!)

Greater Alemannia, for this and your (stupid) ignorance in your Chinese thread, you win the language arts ignorance of the week award.

Owned.
Daistallia 2104
06-08-2006, 17:07
Owned.

Maybe the Gump Prize iz apropreatted hear?
Keruvalia
06-08-2006, 18:52
Anyone who doesn't think there are dialects in English has never been in a room full of Cajuns and Creoles.
Maineiacs
06-08-2006, 18:52
Can someone give me an example of a dialect? Let me see for myself.


Well, I could, but it'd be wicked hahd to do it right over the intahnet, yanno?

(New Englander)
Infinite Revolution
06-08-2006, 18:59
It's a pretty far stretch to call many of those dialects. Most are just accents.
where are you from, have you ever been to britain? find any truly 'local' person anywhere and they'll use words regularly that you won't know the meaning of and you will have to ask them to repeat themselves all the time until you get used to the accent. do you know what a dialect is?
Zilam
06-08-2006, 18:59
The people from around pittsburgh always have a funky dialect, and i guess us common folk from southern illinois do too. We tend to run words to run words together. Other than that, i say American English Ebonics is pretty dang hard to understand..
AB Again
06-08-2006, 19:11
A Waukrife Minnie by Robert Burns

Whare are you gaun, my bonie lass,
Whare are you gaun, my hinnie?
She answered me right saucilie,
"An errand for my minnie."

O whare live ye, my bonie lass,
O whare live ye, my hinnie?
"By yon burnside, gin ye maun ken,
In a wee house wi' my minnie."

But I foor up the glen at e'en.
To see my bonie lassie;
And lang before the grey morn cam,
She was na hauf sae saucie.

O weary fa' the waukrife cock,
And the foumart lay his crawin!
He wauken'd the auld wife frae her sleep,
A wee blink or the dawin.

An angry wife I wat she raise,
And o'er the bed she brocht her;
And wi' a meikle hazel rung
She made her a weel-pay'd dochter.

O fare thee weel, my bonie lass,
O fare thee well, my hinnie!
Thou art a gay an' a bonnie lass,
But thou has a waukrife minnie.

Source (http://www.robertburns.org/works/288.shtml)


Enough of an example?
NERVUN
06-08-2006, 19:44
If memory serves (from when I was taking linguistics), there's a tiny fishing island out in New England that was settled long before the country was founded. The dialect is so different (And actually closer to colonial English) that during WWII when the men were drafted into the war, they needed to be taught how to speak "regular" English in order to communicate.
Safalra
06-08-2006, 19:44
where are you from, have you ever been to britain? find any truly 'local' person anywhere and they'll use words regularly that you won't know the meaning of and you will have to ask them to repeat themselves all the time until you get used to the accent.
Yeah, the bloody grockles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grockle) can never understand us.
Wallonochia
06-08-2006, 21:47
Yeah, the bloody grockles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grockle) can never understand us.

We call those fudgies (http://www.michigannative.com/ma_wordsphrases.shtml) up here.
Infinite Revolution
06-08-2006, 21:57
Yeah, the bloody grockles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grockle) can never understand us.
heh, my dad says grockles, but he's from wigan so i think he's probably just taking the piss. he's lost his accent living in the south but it used to be very strong.

edit: i just call them "fucking TOURISTS!!111" becasue i've never really been local anywhere.
The blessed Chris
06-08-2006, 21:57
Just thought that. Are there any unique dialects that are difficult to understand by speakers of normal English?

Owww! The blueness of the sky hurts!!!:D

The worst is scouse by a country mile.
Wallonochia
06-08-2006, 22:05
The worst is scouse by a country mile.

I don't know, some of those Louisianans are pretty bad. I met a few in basic training that were rather incomprehensible. Even the Puerto Rican guy who had started learning English 4 months before basic was easier to understand.
The Tribes Of Longton
06-08-2006, 22:08
Owww! The blueness of the sky hurts!!!:D

The worst is scouse by a country mile.
If we're just covering England, I'd agree. However, I had to learn to understand my Oirish flatmate last year because he was from out in the sticks somewhere in NI. It took my 8 months and I still didn't catch half of what he said, it was just a series of long, deep mumbles.
The blessed Chris
06-08-2006, 22:12
If we're just covering England, I'd agree. However, I had to learn to understand my Oirish flatmate last year because he was from out in the sticks somewhere in NI. It took my 8 months and I still didn't catch half of what he said, it was just a series of long, deep mumbles.

I still maintain that broad scouse is the least intelligible dialect ever.

I'm also a Man.United fan and Manchester born boy, so I'm a bit biased.:p
The Tribes Of Longton
06-08-2006, 22:15
I still maintain that broad scouse is the least intelligible dialect ever.

I'm also a Man.United fan and Manchester born boy, so I'm a bit biased.:p
Heh. I couldn't tell you were manc, you don't put 'mad for it' at the end of each sentence.

¬_¬

Also, I'm probably a bit biased in favour of the scouse accent because my dad's a filthy scouser. I have learned its subtle nuances - for example, most people don't understand that stealing your car stereo and possibly burning out your car is a non-verbal hello in scouse.
Smunkeeville
06-08-2006, 22:19
as far as dialects, it took me a while to get the creole dialect there are still things I have to ask about, it's very different than here, and I have noticed that my friend from Alberta speaks a whole different kind of English than I do.

as far as accents, I have one, I can strip it out mostly when talking to people that I think might not follow, unless I am mad. I have found that the call center located in Pakistan, doesn't have a single person who can understand what I am saying, and yet they all seem to speak English....:rolleyes:

I have a friend from Nigera whom I can't understand just about anything he says first run, and it's the same for him understanding me, he spent time in South Africa and learned English there, and niether of us are really sure the other knows English at times. haha.
The blessed Chris
06-08-2006, 22:23
Heh. I couldn't tell you were manc, you don't put 'mad for it' at the end of each sentence.

¬_¬

Also, I'm probably a bit biased in favour of the scouse accent because my dad's a filthy scouser. I have learned its subtle nuances - for example, most people don't understand that stealing your car stereo and possibly burning out your car is a non-verbal hello in scouse.

:D

I moved away from manchester when I was seven, therefore I speak several dialects when it suits. I can do Mancunian, Essex, deep and gruff, and upper class.
The Tribes Of Longton
06-08-2006, 22:37
:D

I moved away from manchester when I was seven, therefore I speak several dialects when it suits. I can do Mancunian, Essex, deep and gruff, and upper class.
Considering you have Manc and Essex in there, the last dialect must have taken some real work. ;)
The blessed Chris
06-08-2006, 22:40
Considering you have Manc and Essex in there, the last dialect must have taken some real work. ;)

Not as such. I grew up with it. The other two are the ones that require effort really.
Minbaric Federal Zones
06-08-2006, 22:41
For the sake of an example, I'll attempt (extreme) Southern Vernacular English (although it is rather difficult over a written medium).

[Bad Speaking]
Well, o' cawse thezs diff'rent dIalects ufv anglish. Why, I magine thezs a mighty laage paht ufv Anglish folks who don' unduhstand us suthuners when we tolk.
[/Bad Speaking]

Of course, there are dialects even amongst Southern American English. For example, the bloody Cajuns combine it with French, which is truly incomprehensible (well, unless you speak both Southern English, and French and then you might have a chance in hell...). There's Virginia Piedmont for them Aristocratic folks, Southern Appalachian (which I find incomprehensible), Cracker. Also, African American Vernacular English is often grouped with the Southern dialects because of their historical ties.

Still, I can see the differences in dialects disappearing. The popularity of certain types of music seems to be making African American Vernacular English heard throughout the US while the education system seems to try to teach American General English which is by extension spreading through the higher educated. Of course, there are still differences amongst the areas of the US, but we tend to be mutually intelligible of we try hard enough...
Valdeunia
06-08-2006, 23:46
Well, there's always the West Coast American English. Which can range from Spanglish to Surfer/Skater dude english.

There were four ways people talked back in my hometown in LA. Most common was the Spanglish, which is basically American street but with a lot spanish words. There was Ebonics, or street, whichever you wanna call it, with the "yo dawg, why you be hatin on my cru'?" And then there was my crowd's surfer/skater dude talk, with the "Dude, that was fuckin sick. He totally hit that pipe and wiped out to eat some serious shit."

And then there was basic American English, which is booooring. :p
Meath Street
06-08-2006, 23:52
yes, British, American, Australian, Irish, etc
Nadkor
06-08-2006, 23:58
There's "Mid Ulster English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_Ulster_English)" which is what I speak...

Ach!/Och
aye
bake
boke, boa
cowp/cope
craic
culchie
dander
gob, gub
gutties
hallion
(to have) a hoak, hoke
jap
lug
oxter
poke
scunnered, scundered
sheugh
thon
throughother
wee

etc. etc.
Maraque
07-08-2006, 00:40
Go to Wyoming... they literally speak another language there compared to New York. They even spell things how they say them. It's horrible. I can barely understand them when I speak to them on the phone for work, OMG!
The Infinite Dunes
07-08-2006, 01:35
I think you can even buy dictionaries for the yorkshire dialect. Amazon has at least two on sale.
GreaterPacificNations
07-08-2006, 12:45
yes, British, American, Australian, Irish, etc
Most english 'accents' do not differ sufficiently enough from each other to justify calling them an accent all together. While there are odd examples of an Australian with an extremely broad accent not being able to communicate with an American with a very thick louisianian accent, most Australian and lousianians can communicate just fine. For me, something is a dialect when the spoken variety is mostly incomprehensible to another member of the same language from a different dialect. Also, it must be widely spoken to be attributed to a particular geographical region or socio-cultral group. That being said I think there a couple of 'dialects' within the english language.

Manglish/Singlish (Malaysian and Singaporean english), when spoken naturally it is near impossible to understand all that is said, though the basic jist is usually maintained. It should be noted that most (more than half) of the people who speak either manglish/singlish, can also speak very clear and well articulated international english with a tendancy for british pronounciations, and a slight tendancy towards an american vocabulary.

Scottish/Ulster/Regional UK/Irish. There are a number of regional UK dialects which are heavily peppered with slang and colloqialisms and usually feature a very stong accent as well. Most of these are influenced by their respective celtic regional dialects. It should be noted that virtually all people who speak this dialec speak comprehensible english with an accent as defined by their region or ethnic group.

Those are the only serious dialects I can think of. Perhaps Australian Aboriginal english should be added, though. However I understand it just fine (Excepting the odd aboriginal word which is thown in), though I did grow up in regional Australia. I still don't think it qualifies.
BogMarsh
07-08-2006, 12:48
Just thought that. Are there any unique dialects that are difficult to understand by speakers of normal English?


Ye said summat?
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2006, 13:13
South Louisiania Cajun English. Wow!

Yah, Cajun too.

Between Cajun, and Penn Dutch...theyre barely using real words.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2006, 13:14
Ye said summat?


Do ye ken I cu'd bettahr sing wif me nose in me arse?
Colodia
07-08-2006, 13:16
...Spanglish qualifies?
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2006, 13:21
...Spanglish qualifies?


Thats not really a dialect, as it is the mixture of two languages, I would think.
Cannot think of a name
07-08-2006, 13:26
There's crazy batshit insane (http://www.feed-squirrel.com/blog/files/crazy_yanks.mp3). (I challenge you to get all the way through that...yikes)
Colodia
07-08-2006, 13:28
There's crazy batshit insane (http://www.feed-squirrel.com/blog/files/crazy_yanks.mp3). (I challenge you to get all the way through that...yikes)
I am able to listen and understand her fine, save for when the audio quality is cruddy.

EDIT: OMG I have an urge to be a telemarketer...
Pepe Dominguez
07-08-2006, 13:29
There's crazy batshit insane (http://www.feed-squirrel.com/blog/files/crazy_yanks.mp3). (I challenge you to get all the way through that...yikes)

Damn.. what was the context?

Speaking of dialects, I'd guess that broad was from WI or Michigan.. just staying on-topic.. :p
Gorias
07-08-2006, 13:31
in dublin there is a huge difference between south and north.
also cork and limerick.
different parts of ulster.
BogMarsh
07-08-2006, 13:50
Do ye ken I cu'd bettahr sing wif me nose in me arse?

*headbutts BS who is suspected of being a Geordie*
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2006, 14:08
*headbutts BS who is suspected of being a Geordie*


Hell...I dont know even what a Goerdie is....
BogMarsh
07-08-2006, 14:09
Hell...I dont know even what a Goerdie is....

Yer from summatelse, geezer?

*looks suspiciously and guzzles another can of Carling Black Label*
Pepe Dominguez
07-08-2006, 14:09
Hell...I dont know even what a Goerdie is....

Someone from Geordania, one of the Channel Islands, I think. Yep. :)
The Tribes Of Longton
07-08-2006, 14:14
Hell...I dont know even what a Goerdie is....
If you ever see a psychopath, charging towards you on a night out, with a bottle of this:
http://sw.deri.ie/svn/knud/fotoblog/05/0505/050509-NewcastleBrown/Picture(5).jpg
in his hand, that's a geordie. Don't be alarmed though, he's prbably just saying hello. It's their way.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2006, 14:17
Yer from summatelse, geezer?

*looks suspiciously and guzzles another can of Carling Black Label*


No...I just have read a lot of James Herriot.

Hes that scottish veterinarian guy.

They all talk like that in the area he worked.

Me?

Imma feckin yank.
BogMarsh
07-08-2006, 14:20
No...I just have read a lot of James Herriot.

Hes that scottish veterinarian guy.

They all talk like that in the area he worked.

Me?

Imma feckin yank.

Indeed, he's a fine Yorkshire lad, sah.

But as a Yank you are a seditious colonial, wot?

*looks haughty*
Demented Hamsters
07-08-2006, 14:20
There's crazy batshit insane (http://www.feed-squirrel.com/blog/files/crazy_yanks.mp3). (I challenge you to get all the way through that...yikes)
That gets a very big:
http://www.freewebs.com/itflames/wtf.jpg
She sounds like Daffy Duck. But an insane version. An seriously unhinged version.
Kudos to the guy for being so patient and polite the whole time. I would have gotten stuck into her around the time she started accusing him of being a terrorist or a rapist.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2006, 14:25
Indeed, he's a fine Yorkshire lad, sah.

But as a Yank you are a seditious colonial, wot?

*looks haughty*


I dunno bout a seditious colonial....but I have been called a "Son of Perdition".

I rather liked the sound of it...
BogMarsh
07-08-2006, 14:26
I dunno bout a seditious colonial....but I have been called a "Son of Perdition".

I rather liked the sound of it...

He could've called you a gurl of it, you know?
Wallonochia
07-08-2006, 16:54
There's crazy batshit insane (http://www.feed-squirrel.com/blog/files/crazy_yanks.mp3). (I challenge you to get all the way through that...yikes)

That was the funniest thing I've ever heard.
Kazus
07-08-2006, 17:05
If you want to count Old English and Middle English.
Xandabia
07-08-2006, 17:38
loads
Daistallia 2104
07-08-2006, 18:00
Thats not really a dialect, as it is the mixture of two languages, I would think.

Spanglish is more along the lines of code switching.

If you want to count Old English and Middle English.

No, those are simply early forms of the language, both having their own distinct dialects (the Mercian, Northumbrian, Kentish, and West Saxon dialects of Old English, for example).