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Film Noir

IDF
04-08-2006, 19:55
What's your favorite motion picture of the Film Noir genre?

I'm going with "The Maltese Falcon," starring Humphrey Bogart.
Neo Undelia
04-08-2006, 19:58
I have no idea what you're talking about.
IDF
04-08-2006, 19:58
for those who don't know what Film Noir is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_noir
IDF
04-08-2006, 20:00
I have no idea what you're talking about.
You really need to see some of the great classic movies. Film Noir resulted in some of the greatest films of all time. I'd even consider "Citizen Kane" to be a Film Noir in a way.
Philosopy
04-08-2006, 20:05
I prefer Film Orange.
Neo Undelia
04-08-2006, 20:07
for those who don't know what Film Noir is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_noir
Oh, ok. I haven’t ever seen any movie like that, ever.
Rubiconic Crossings
04-08-2006, 20:41
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IDF
04-08-2006, 20:46
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Any Film Noir with Peter Lorre in it and directed by Fritz Lang is a great film.
Rubiconic Crossings
04-08-2006, 20:51
Any Film Noir with Peter Lorre in it and directed by Fritz Lang is a great film.

Not only that but one where the protagonist, esp a violent protagonist, manages to get the movie goer to be sympathetic towards him/her is one that can but be considered a great film.
IDF
04-08-2006, 20:53
Not only that but one where the protagonist, esp a violent protagonist, manages to get the movie goer to be sympathetic towards him/her is one that can but be considered a great film.
I often feel sympathy for the Film Noir protagonist. After all, you know he is going to reach utter ruin at the end whether he deserves it or not.
Rubiconic Crossings
04-08-2006, 20:56
I often feel sympathy for the Film Noir protagonist. After all, you know he is going to reach utter ruin at the end whether he deserves it or not.

I guess one of the reasons the term Nior is so very very apt....

Have been trying to think of others...Fugitive from a Chain Gang...the various Marlow films...what bout the gangster movies like 'I'm on top of the world Ma! Top of the World...'
IDF
04-08-2006, 21:14
I guess one of the reasons the term Nior is so very very apt....

Have been trying to think of others...Fugitive from a Chain Gang...the various Marlow films...what bout the gangster movies like 'I'm on top of the world Ma! Top of the World...'
Say what you want about Godfather III, but that is one of the best modern adaptations of Film Noir. Michael Corleone goes from legitimate billionaire to complete ruin.
JuNii
04-08-2006, 21:15
What's your favorite motion picture of the Film Noir genre?

I'm going with "The Maltese Falcon," starring Humphrey Bogart.I kinda like the orignal DOA and of course theres Casablanca.
Desperate Measures
04-08-2006, 21:16
My favorite is Dark Passage, even though I'd understand why people wouldn't like it.
IDF
04-08-2006, 21:18
I kinda like the orignal DOA and of course theres Casablanca.
Casablanca is a classic. I wouldn't consider it Film Noir, but I still loved it. Peter Lorre, Humphrey Bogard, Claude Raines, and of course Ingrid Bergman. So many great lines.

"PLay it again Sam. Play "As Time Goes By."

"Here's to looking at you kid."

"We'll always have Paris."
Desperate Measures
04-08-2006, 21:23
Casablanca is a classic. I wouldn't consider it Film Noir, but I still loved it. Peter Lorre, Humphrey Bogard, Claude Raines, and of course Ingrid Bergman. So many great lines.

"PLay it again Sam. Play "As Time Goes By."

"Here's to looking at you kid."

"We'll always have Paris."
Actually, the line is: "Play it once, Sam, for old times' sake." And then: "Play it, Sam. Play 'As Time Goes By.' "
JuNii
04-08-2006, 21:24
Casablanca is a classic. I wouldn't consider it Film Noir, but I still loved it. Peter Lorre, Humphrey Bogard, Claude Raines, and of course Ingrid Bergman. So many great lines.

"PLay it again Sam. Play "As Time Goes By."

"Here's to looking at you kid."

"We'll always have Paris."true, but some do consider it Noir...

and for those who want the "Cliff notes" version of Casablanca.... with bunnies....
Linky (http://www.angryalien.com/0506/casabunca.asp)
Desperate Measures
04-08-2006, 21:25
Touch of Evil is also great.
Liberated New Ireland
04-08-2006, 21:26
and for those who want the "Cliff notes" version of Casablanca.... with bunnies....
Linky
Highlarious.

Best film noir of all time: Taxi Driver.
IDF
04-08-2006, 21:27
true, but some do consider it Noir...

and for those who want the "Cliff notes" version of Casablanca.... with bunnies....
Linky (http://www.angryalien.com/0506/casabunca.asp)
"Round up the usual suspects." Great. I forgot that line. LOL that is pretty true though. It's the jist of the movie.
Xenophobialand
04-08-2006, 21:47
I'm more familiar with the more modern neo-noir like Pulp Fiction, L.A. Confidential, and Sin City, but I do have a fondness for the genre. Unfortunately, the local Blockbuster tends to stock more B-grade sapphic porn than Bogart movies.
IDF
04-08-2006, 22:03
I'm more familiar with the more modern neo-noir like Pulp Fiction, L.A. Confidential, and Sin City, but I do have a fondness for the genre. Unfortunately, the local Blockbuster tends to stock more B-grade sapphic porn than Bogart movies.
Those are 3 great movies. I'm surprised few consider "Godfather III" to be neo-noir. LA Confidential has to be my favorite neo noir though.
Meath Street
04-08-2006, 22:04
Any Film Noir with Peter Lorre in it and directed by Fritz Lang is a great film.
Isn't M and most of Lang's work more Expressionist than noir?
IDF
04-08-2006, 22:09
Isn't M and most of Lang's work more Expressionist than noir?
He was well known for his work in Noir. My favorite Lang movie has to be Scarlet Street. I highly recommend it.
Sarkhaan
04-08-2006, 22:20
I'm going with "The Maltese Falcon," starring Humphrey Bogart.
ditto.
Rubiconic Crossings
04-08-2006, 22:57
Say what you want about Godfather III, but that is one of the best modern adaptations of Film Noir. Michael Corleone goes from legitimate billionaire to complete ruin.

hmmm Would Scarface fall in that catagory?
IDF
04-08-2006, 22:59
hmmm Would Scarface fall in that catagory?
I can see it as one. Pacino seems to get those roles.
Cannot think of a name
04-08-2006, 23:07
He was well known for his work in Noir. My favorite Lang movie has to be Scarlet Street. I highly recommend it.
It's been a while since I've had to write a Noir paper but I would think that Lang's impressionistic work is largely considered a primary influence for Noir directors. M was still done in Germany. It was American crime adaptations that used German expressionist film style and lighting (often from German filmmakers moving to the states to make thier films) that eventually got termed "Film Noir" after World War II when French critics finally got all those films from the 30s that they missed during the occupation.

So, while it's not technically Noir, I think my favorite that at the very least follows much of the stark formula would have to be Man With the Golden Arm, if for nothing else than watching Frank Sinatra going through heroin withdrawals.

Quality.
Cannot think of a name
04-08-2006, 23:08
I can see it as one. Pacino seems to get those roles.
The first one was.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
04-08-2006, 23:13
It's been a while since I've had to write a Noir paper but I would think that Lang's impressionistic work is largely considered a primary influence for Noir directors. M was still done in Germany. It was American crime adaptations that used German expressionist film style and lighting (often from German filmmakers moving to the states to make thier films) that eventually got termed "Film Noir" after World War II when French critics finally got all those films from the 30s that they missed during the occupation.
Thanks. I didn't dare to pipe up because I don't really know enough about the subject. I'd never heard Lang's movies referred to as Noir. For me, the term denotes really only the classic 30's/40's American noir crime movies.
What you said makes total sense.
Cannot think of a name
04-08-2006, 23:15
Thanks. I didn't dare to pipe up because I don't really know enough about the subject. I'd never heard Lang's movies referred to as Noir. For me, the term denotes really only the classic 30's/40's American noir crime movies.
What you said makes total sense.
Not to kiss up to you because your German, but film may actually only look good because of the Germany. Well, and Russia.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
04-08-2006, 23:17
Not to kiss up to you because your German, but film may actually only look good because of the Germany. Well, and Russia.
Why, the Germany is all properly honoured. It thinks. :p
Aurendia
04-08-2006, 23:24
I haven't seen a lot of the classics, so I'll have to say Double Indemnity
Cannot think of a name
04-08-2006, 23:34
Why, the Germany is all properly honoured. It thinks. :p
I was going to say "the Germans" but then I changed to Germany. And I don't proof read, obviously. Kerouac told me not to.
Curious Inquiry
05-08-2006, 16:09
I haven't seen a lot of the classics, so I'll have to say Double Indemnity
A great film! Fred McMurray cast completely against type :)
Farnhamia
05-08-2006, 16:11
A great film! Fred McMurray cast completely against type :)
Absolutely Double Indemnity! And The Postman Always Rings Twice is right there alongside it.