NationStates Jolt Archive


Who doesn't care for the poor?

BogMarsh
04-08-2006, 18:25
Democrats, Republicans, neither, or myrth?

Just cast your ballots and be done with it.

EDIT: please treat neither and both as the same.

My bad, but: it comes out the same if you think there is no difference on this issues between the 2 parties.
Kazus
04-08-2006, 18:25
Dems at least pretend to.

Was there supposed to be a poll?
BogMarsh
04-08-2006, 18:26
Dems at least pretend to.

Was there supposed to be a poll?

Yeap. I don't manage lightvelocity when typing.
Bad karma - my fault.
BlueDragon407
04-08-2006, 18:30
I don't think either party is purposely apathetic to the poor. People who are against whichever group will say the party doesn't care, but I don't believe the accusations to be true.
LiberationFrequency
04-08-2006, 18:33
Wheres the both category?
BogMarsh
04-08-2006, 18:33
I don't think either party is purposely apathetic to the poor. People who are against whichever group will say the party doesn't care, but I don't believe the accusations to be true.

You're probably right.

But after 2 threads of fillibustering, I guess it's time to VOTE and be done with it.

Note to fillibusters: it won't help you. The Vote is cast and the matter is settled by the time you've explained your first metaphore.
Llewdor
04-08-2006, 18:33
Why isn't there a 'Both' option? I think it's the case that both parties don't care for the poor.
BogMarsh
04-08-2006, 18:34
Wheres the both category?


Merged with neither and/or myrth.
Soheran
04-08-2006, 18:35
Why isn't "both" an option?

Edit: Nevermind.
Super-power
04-08-2006, 18:50
George Bush doesn't care about poor people - or was that black people? :D
Llewdor
04-08-2006, 18:51
Merged with neither and/or myrth.
Even though they're diametrically opposed positions...

"Neither" would assert that the two parties DO care.

"Both" would assert that the two parties DON'T care.
Llewdor
04-08-2006, 18:52
George Bush doesn't care about poor people - or was that black people? :D
I never understood why that was a bad thing. I want the government to be indifferent toward me.
Super-power
04-08-2006, 18:58
I never understood why that was a bad thing. I want the government to be indifferent toward me.
Not sure if you missed the joke there, but it was a play upon the infamous Kanye West quote of the relatively same nature.
The South Islands
04-08-2006, 18:58
Myrth only cares about the rich posters. He cares not about the common forumgoer.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
04-08-2006, 18:59
I never understood why that was a bad thing. I want the government to be indifferent toward me.

Agreed. I would be much happier if the government had no idea I even exist.
BlueDragon407
04-08-2006, 19:03
Agreed. I would be much happier if the government had no idea I even exist.

I also agree. It's definitely better than them knowing your every move.
Xenophobialand
04-08-2006, 19:12
I wouldn't say that either party "doesn't care" about the poor. Only a few people would honestly say that the poor don't matter and that they could care less about them. The big problem, though, is that both parties are wedded to an economic system that while promised to be the cat's meow for everyone in reality turns out to be spectacularly bad for poor people. They stay with this system because partly because everyone in control of either party still believes that the model will work, and partly because money is what drives politics these days, and so they need the money of the rich and influential to succeed at politics. Engaging in overt populism, then, is merely biting the hand that feeds you.
Llewdor
04-08-2006, 21:55
Not sure if you missed the joke there, but it was a play upon the infamous Kanye West quote of the relatively same nature.
I felt the same way about Kanye's remark.

Though it did create that incredibly amusing reaction from Mike Myers.
Markreich
04-08-2006, 22:02
Neither care about the poor. Anyone who believes differently is trying to sell something.
Swilatia
04-08-2006, 22:54
wheres the both option?
HotRodia
04-08-2006, 23:20
Myrth only cares about the rich posters. He cares not about the common forumgoer.

Aye. :(

Myrth, our oppressive overlord, hast thou forsaken us, as the Republicans and Democrats have done?
The Aeson
04-08-2006, 23:21
Where are the options for the French, the Texans, the Communists and Jesus?
Markreich
04-08-2006, 23:31
Where are the options for the French, the Texans, the Communists and Jesus?

Um... you were 3/3, but Jesus? How do you derive that one? :confused:
Llewdor
05-08-2006, 00:22
Um... you were 3/3, but Jesus? How do you derive that one? :confused:
Easy.

Things that don't exist can't exhibit characteristics. Therefore, Jesus can't care about the poor.
The Aeson
05-08-2006, 00:31
Um... you were 3/3, but Jesus? How do you derive that one? :confused:

Two ways.

First- Consorting with tax-collectors who preyed upon the poor.

Second- His explaining that poor people giving money to the church was better than rich people giving to the church. Advocating the poor give away what money they have.
DesignatedMarksman
05-08-2006, 00:38
I care for the poor, but not by bailing them out.
Markreich
05-08-2006, 15:55
Two ways.

First- Consorting with tax-collectors who preyed upon the poor.

Second- His explaining that poor people giving money to the church was better than rich people giving to the church. Advocating the poor give away what money they have.

Um....

1) Consorting? He over-turned the tables and fought AGAINST the tax collectors in the temple. He did say "give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's", but that's hardly consorting!

2) That's out of context. It was explaining that it isn't how much you give, but what you give up means to you is what matters. It's nothing for Bill Gates to give $5000 to a soup kitchen. But if James on 8th Avenue gives $50 and lives on $300 a week, he made the bigger sacrifice even though he gave 1/100th of what Bill Gates gave.