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A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's you're problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


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Kansas, pride of America!

Technically, it's illegal to fly the Jolly Roger from a boat in US waters (against Coast Guard regulations), but I, and quite a few other people do so.

I guess some people put too much into a symbol.

A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's you're problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


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Yes, who could forget the great heterocaust of 1809?

A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's you're problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


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Yeah, it's more akin to flying a star of david in a nazi community...

Only in the USA

/jk

Only in the USA

/jk


Obviously kidding. Only in the USA, North Korea, all Muslim countries, and all of Africa.

kinda makes me want to drive up there and spend the weekend, help them out a little......

Ironic, because the Nazis put gays in gas chambers too.

Obviously kidding. Only in the USA, North Korea, all Muslim countries, and all of Africa.

Yep yep it was a joke. (Although the USA is a free democracy which makes it slightly more ironic.)

Yep yep it was a joke. (Although the USA is a free democracy which makes it slightly more ironic.)

Not if you give it some thought.

Think of how stupid the average person is. Now think of how few people vote. Now, realize that Democracy is nothing short of tyranny of the majority. Now realize gay people are inherently a minority and always will be. Add a bit of religion in the mix and you get what we got.

A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's you're problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


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...Dude, you're not in America any more, you're in Kanasas. It is royally f'up beyond repair.

Not if you give it some thought.

Think of how stupid the average person is. Now think of how few people vote. Now, realize that Democracy is nothing short of tyranny of the majority. Now realize gay people are inherently a minority and always will be. Add a bit of religion in the mix and you get what we got.

It's still ironic.

Yeah, it's more akin to flying a star of david in a nazi community...

Precisely.

Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room.
That did actually happen, sometime last year or the year before, in the changing rooms of a gym at the London offices of a major UK bank.

Having been fired, the pervert in question sued his employers for unfair dismissal, complaining it was motivated by homophobia. The incident came to public attention once he lost his case.

Many colors in the homo rainbow
Don't be afraid to let your colors shine
Many colors in the homo rainbow
Show me yours. I'm gonna show you mine

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow

Many colors in the homo rainbow
You give me shade from black to yellow
Many colors in the homo rainbow
A warm embrace and a kind-a hello

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow
Every single color, every walk of life
In & out changin, every day and night
From the golden shores of Kansas, to the middle of Japan
reach inside your soul and learn your fellow

There are many colors in the homo rainbow
Don't be afraid to let your colors shine
Don't be ashamed of what God made you

Many colors in the homo rainbow
Don't be afraid to let your colors shine
Many colors in the homo rainbow
Show me yours. I'm gonna show you mine

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow

Many colors in the homo rainbow
You give me shade from black to yellow
Many colors in the homo rainbow
A warm embrace and a kind-a hello

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow
Every single color, every walk of life
In & out changin, every day and night
From the golden shores of Kansas, to the middle of Japan
reach inside your soul and learn your fellow

There are many colors in the homo rainbow
Don't be afraid to let your colors shine
Don't be ashamed of what God made you
Wow, that must have taken a while with all the colors and stuff. Neat. Also, Ween Rocks!

Wow, that must have taken a while with all the colors and stuff. Neat. Also, Ween Rocks!
Only for the first one. Then just copy n paste.
First thing I thought of when I read the OP. And I just knew you'd appreciate it.

Many colors in the homo rainbow
Don't be afraid to let your colors shine
Many colors in the homo rainbow
Show me yours. I'm gonna show you mine

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow

Many colors in the homo rainbow
You give me shade from black to yellow
Many colors in the homo rainbow
A warm embrace and a kind-a hello

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow

If you find a pot of gold
Every little thing is gonna work out fine
In the homo rainbow
Every single color, every walk of life
In & out changin, every day and night
From the golden shores of Kansas, to the middle of Japan
reach inside your soul and learn your fellow

There are many colors in the homo rainbow
Don't be afraid to let your colors shine
Don't be ashamed of what God made you

Well written, and very expressive. Honestly, I like living in the United States, but when I read a story like this, it makes me wonder if the North and South, or Coasts and Heartland, or Northeast and everywhere else are different countries. It's like, New York is in the USA and Alabama is in the CSA (not Confederate, but Christian).

Well written, and very expressive. Honestly, I like living in the United States, but when I read a story like this, it makes me wonder if the North and South, or Coasts and Heartland, or Northeast and everywhere else are different countries. It's like, New York is in the USA and Alabama is in the CSA (not Confederate, but Christian).
You do know it's not my song-writing, but Ween?
I wish I had half their talent.

A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's you're problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


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I agree that people have the right to express their freaky views through the use of flags. However, I can fuly understand the outrage by the community. Homo flags are certainly a disgrace but hey this is America and we have freedom of speech. If we have to listen to perverts and racists well hey that is just a price of being free and I would rather pay that price than live in a country where minorities were oppressed.

You do know it's not my song-writing, but Ween?
I wish I had half their talent.

ween rocks!

That did actually happen, sometime last year or the year before, in the changing rooms of a gym at the London offices of a major UK bank.

Having been fired, the pervert in question sued his employers for unfair dismissal, complaining it was motivated by homophobia. The incident came to public attention once he lost his case.
Incontrovertible proof that gays are just like Nazis.

So...what kind of lethal gas was used in that changing room?

I agree that people have the right to express their freaky views through the use of flags. However, I can fuly understand the outrage by the community. Homo flags are certainly a disgrace but hey this is America and we have freedom of speech. If we have to listen to perverts and racists well hey that is just a price of being free and I would rather pay that price than live in a country where minorities were oppressed.
What a beautiful way to both express your bigotry AND your 'tolerance'.

Thanks. Hey tolerance does not mean we need to agree with each other but just that we can respect people with different views. That is what America is all about. We are a melting pot of different views and backgrounds.

Thanks. Hey tolerance does not mean we need to agree with each other but just that we can respect people with different views. That is what America is all about. We are a melting pot of different views and backgrounds.
Not from the US here, but that's just me nitpicking.

'Respect' to me, does not mean standing in front of someone and telling them what a disgusting person they are, with the caveat that "but it's a free country, so go on and keep being the sinful pervert you are". Neither is that a hallmark of tolerance.

But that's just me.

I find it supremely ironic that the Jewish Autonomous Oblast of the USSR and the Inca both used a rainbow flag; these bigoted halfwits might want to learn a little bit about the meaning of a rainbow flag before they display blatant ignorance of the history and symbolism associated with the design.

(And even if they did fly it with the intention of promoting gay pride, what's the problem? )

Kansas needs to be stripped of statehood and administered as a territory until it can behave itself.

Yes, who could forget the great heterocaust of 1809?
:p

Yeah, it's more akin to flying a star of david in a nazi community... Exactly.

Land of the free indeed.

Thanks. Hey tolerance does not mean we need to agree with each other but just that we can respect people with different views. That is what America is all about. We are a melting pot of different views and backgrounds.
So "freaky" and "disgrace" and "perverts" and "racists" is what you call someone whom you respect? Man, I really wouldn't want to hear what you'd say to someone you despised.

Ahh the great heterocaust.

When bobby jo redneck accidentally sprained his wrist while beatting a crossdresser to death with a tire iron.

The tragedy, the sheer tragedy...

Ahh the great heterocaust.

When bobby jo redneck accidentally sprained his wrist while beatting a crossdresser to death with a tire iron.

The tragedy, the sheer tragedy...
Hehe. :p

Not from the US here, but that's just me nitpicking.

'Respect' to me, does not mean standing in front of someone and telling them what a disgusting person they are, with the caveat that "but it's a free country, so go on and keep being the sinful pervert you are". Neither is that a hallmark of tolerance.

But that's just me.Well, that's why it's called tolerance and not acceptance. There is no law that he has to accept the gay lifestyle as normal or respect gays, but the law does require him not to commit any crimes against them or their property.

See, I'd have the twelve year old kid on the news crying about why everyone is being so mean and making his parents take down his gift.

I'd also make up a banner with Dorothy telling Toto, "Looks like we're not welcome in Kansas anymore."

Kansas needs to be stripped of statehood and administered as a territory until it can behave itself.

I love it, actually, that the guy was flying the flag because it reminded his son of Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz. You would think that citizens of Kansas would be happy with that....

LOL

Kansas needs to be stripped of statehood and administered as a territory until it can behave itself.Considering what was going on in Bleeding Kansas, maybe statehood wasn't such a good idea in the first place...

Swastika was actually used many centuries before nazis as a symbol of luck and peace. Nazi's took it to themselves and now everyone thinks that it's a bad symbol because of those f-tards

Oh yea, and also the eastern countries still use it all over the place and noone thinks it's not normal. Just the USA and Europe probably because they were affected more by nazis.

I agree that people have the right to express their freaky views through the use of flags. However, I can fuly understand the outrage by the community. Homo flags are certainly a disgrace but hey this is America and we have freedom of speech. If we have to listen to perverts and racists well hey that is just a price of being free and I would rather pay that price than live in a country where minorities were oppressed.

<sniff sniff>

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, bait. With a subtle hint of Troll.

Not if you give it some thought.

Think of how stupid the average person is. Now think of how few people vote. Now, realize that Democracy is nothing short of tyranny of the majority. Now realize gay people are inherently a minority and always will be. Add a bit of religion in the mix and you get what we got.
In a perfect world, all people with an IQ over 115 would vote, and everyone else would shut the fuck up.

Swastika was actually used many centuries before nazis as a symbol of luck and peace. Nazi's took it to themselves and now everyone thinks that it's a bad symbol because of those f-tards

Oh yea, and also the eastern countries still use it all over the place and noone thinks it's not normal. Just the USA and Europe probably because they were affected more by nazis.
I went to a friend's wedding a while back and the church had little swastika tiles on the floor. I think it was built pre WWII.

I agree that people have the right to express their freaky views through the use of flags. However, I can fuly understand the outrage by the community. Homo flags are certainly a disgrace but hey this is America and we have freedom of speech. If we have to listen to perverts and racists well hey that is just a price of being free and I would rather pay that price than live in a country where minorities were oppressed.

Homosexuals are perverts?


Bwah?

There we have it, that's "what's the matter with kansas."

<sniff sniff>

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, bait. With a subtle hint of Troll.

Why? Because he doesn't worship at the altar of homosexuality?

A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's you're problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


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I guess maybe it's time that some sinister folks just learned adherence to the values of the median community in the State they're in...

I guess maybe it's time that some sinister folks just learned adherence to the values of the median community in the State they're in...

When did Kansas decide that they don't like Dorothy and Toto anymore?

When did Kansas decide that they don't like Dorothy and Toto anymore?


Not a clue. D'you think they stopped?
I guess they still do.

Perhaps the sinister ones ought to wear red shoes instead - or just buzz off.

I say we kick Kansas out of the union, and then invade their asses.

Who's with me?

The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood.

What was that formula about how the longer a debate is the more of a chance theres a Nazi comparison? Looks like it just hit 1.

Not a clue. D'you think they stopped?
I guess they still do.

They must not. Clearly they don't like someone flying a flag that reminds his son of the story.

They must not. Clearly they don't like someone flying a flag that reminds his son of the story.

*shrug* Either way, if you don't like the community standards of the place you're in, you ought to leave. Or at least have the common sense never ever to speak in a negative way about local standards.

*shrug* Either way, if you don't like the community standards of the place you're in, you ought to leave. Or at least have the common sense never ever to speak in a negative way about local standards.

That's idiotic. If "community standards" are stupid, you should say so. You are, after all, part of the community.

If many of the people in my city suddenly decided they don't like purple shirts, I would rightfully state that any "community standard" against wearing purple shirts is stupid, and I would proudly wear my purple shirt to demonstrate it.

That's idiotic. If "community standards" are stupid, you should say so. You are, after all, part of the community.

If many of the people in my city suddenly decided they don't like purple shirts, I would rightfully state that any "community standard" against wearing purple shirts is stupid, and I would proudly wear my purple shirt to demonstrate it.

Try it with the color of your roof. In many places you can make your house anycolor you want, in other places your house has to match the specific community requirements or it will be modified against your will and you will be billed for them having to fix your property.

Try not mowing your grass for a couple of months... community standards do impact us whether we like them or not.

As to the Oz reference, the owner said that that is why his son wanted it, but he also freely admitted that now it is moved onto a personal issue. It seems to me both the neighbors and the father have perspective issues. If he knows it scares off customers, then who’s fault is it? What does he have to complain about?

Try it with the color of your roof. In many places you can make your house anycolor you want, in other places your house has to match the specific community requirements or it will be modified against your will and you will be billed for them having to fix your property.

Try not mowing your grass for a couple of months... community standards do impact us whether we like them or not.

The difference being that the reasoning behind these rules is harm caused to others. If I paint my roof with polkadots, the people next door to me are likely to see their property value go down. Same thing if I neglect to mow my grass.

However, if I fly a rainbow flag, the chance of property values changing at all is pretty much nil.

As to the Oz reference, the owner said that that is why his son wanted it, but he also freely admitted that now it is moved onto a personal issue.

Yes, a personal, "The community isn't going to make me take down my son's gift." Suppose the gift had been a picture the son drew that he put up on the wall. Should he give in to intimidation if the community didn't like children's drawings?

It seems to me both the neighbors and the father have perspective issues. If he knows it scares off customers, then who’s fault is it?

In this case? The idiot customers. Anyone who is "scared off" by a rainbow probably shouldn't be eating out anyways - the food might scare them. And if he cares more about his son and his son's feelings than a bunch of idiots, I say more power to him.

A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's you're problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


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They wiped your mind afterwards. What do they think of leprechauns?

*shrug* Either way, if you don't like the community standards of the place you're in, you ought to leave. Or at least have the common sense never ever to speak in a negative way about local standards.
Right, like if you lived down south during the Jim Crow era you should just have nodded and smiled and attended the lynching when someone accused a black guy of giving a white woman the "reckless eyeball".

Right, like if you lived down south during the Jim Crow era you should just have nodded and smiled and attended the lynching when someone accused a black guy of giving a white woman the "reckless eyeball".

Either that or moved out. Obviously. If your "community standards" are to lynch all the darkies, and you don't like it, just get the hell out!

Either that or moved out. Obviously. If your "community standards" are to lynch all the darkies, and you don't like it, just get the hell out!

Right! Don't bother trying to change the community standards. Just leave and hope for the best.

The difference being that the reasoning behind these rules is harm caused to others. If I paint my roof with polkadots, the people next door to me are likely to see their property value go down. Same thing if I neglect to mow my grass.

However, if I fly a rainbow flag, the chance of property values changing at all is pretty much nil.


The entire point of that article would suggest that you are 100% wrong in that assumption. Those neighbors wont even go IN the place, you think someone is going to want to buy the house next to it?

Yes, a personal, "The community isn't going to make me take down my son's gift." Suppose the gift had been a picture the son drew that he put up on the wall. Should he give in to intimidation if the community didn't like children's drawings?

Teachers take down student/children’s religious drawing all the time, saying what is and what is not appropriate for the various outlets and different avenues open to their artistic expression. It’s a fact of life and it applies there as well.



In this case? The idiot customers. Anyone who is "scared off" by a rainbow probably shouldn't be eating out anyways - the food might scare them. And if he cares more about his son and his son's feelings than a bunch of idiots, I say more power to him.

And if he wants to run off his customer base, I agree, more power to him. But if my clientel are Amish and I sell iPods, it's not my place to start complaining that my customers aren't nice for not buying what I'm selling.

The entire point of that article would suggest that you are 100% wrong in that assumption. Those neighbors wont even go IN the place, you think someone is going to want to buy the house next to it?"Someone" doesn't denote "neighbor". Prove that property value goes down because of a flag.

Teachers take down student/children’s religious drawing all the time, saying what is and what is not appropriate for the various outlets and different avenues open to their artistic expression. It’s a fact of life and it applies there as well.Nope. That's a false analogy. A school is an institution, private property is not.

And if he wants to run off his customer base, I agree, more power to him. But if my clientel are Amish and I sell iPods, it's not my place to start complaining that my customers aren't nice for not buying what I'm selling.It's not like he's trying to sell them necronomicons. :rolleyes:

The entire point of that article would suggest that you are 100% wrong in that assumption. Those neighbors wont even go IN the place, you think someone is going to want to buy the house next to it? No shit. Who would want to live next door to a bunch of fags? Ok, maybe they're not fags, but they're fag-lovers. Why the only thing worse would be moving in next door to a bunch of coons.



Teachers take down student/children’s religious drawing all the time, saying what is and what is not appropriate for the various outlets and different avenues open to their artistic expression. It’s a fact of life and it applies there as well.
Well, groups like Pat Robertson's ACLJ are trying to change that and put religion back were it belongs, in the publicly funded schools.


And if he wants to run off his customer base, I agree, more power to him. But if my clientel are Amish and I sell iPods, it's not my place to start complaining that my customers aren't nice for not buying what I'm selling.
Yeah, but if your Amish customers got all up in your face about selling ipods remember this. They're not allowed to use violence, so you can safely punch 'em.

The entire point of that article would suggest that you are 100% wrong in that assumption. Those neighbors wont even go IN the place, you think someone is going to want to buy the house next to it?

I got the impression that it is in more of a business district - which operates a bit differently than a residential area.

Teachers take down student/children’s religious drawing all the time, saying what is and what is not appropriate for the various outlets and different avenues open to their artistic expression. It’s a fact of life and it applies there as well.

Teachers != Restaurant owners. No one is saying that the guy can hang his flag in the county courthouse either - just on his own restaurant.

And if he wants to run off his customer base, I agree, more power to him. But if my clientel are Amish and I sell iPods, it's not my place to start complaining that my customers aren't nice for not buying what I'm selling.

The difference, of course, being that a reasonable person would know that the Amish aren't going to buy ipods. No reasonable person would think that flying a flag your son brought you because it reminded him of a fairy tale would cause such a stink. A better comparison would be if I opened an ipod store in a place where people would most likely buy ipods and people decided to stop coming because my carpet was blue.

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The difference, of course, being that a reasonable person would know that the Amish aren't going to buy ipods. No reasonable person would think that flying a flag your son brought you because it reminded him of a fairy tale would cause such a stink. A better comparison would be if I opened an ipod store in a place where people would most likely buy ipods and people decided to stop coming because my carpet was blue.

So if you got all prissy about having a blue carpet and refused to change it and your customers left and your business went in the red and then closed, you'd win because you kept your beloved blue carpet. I think it would show a complete lack of business sense myself and I would have switched to a different color carpet myself, you know, keep those customers coming.

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Yeah, but if your Amish customers got all up in your face about selling ipods remember this. They're not allowed to use violence, so you can safely punch 'em.

MWAHAHA!

Damn man, you should have to put a warning on those things, you made me squirt coffee through my nose when I read that while having a sip!

LOL, oh my goodness. *chuckle*

*shrug* Either way, if you don't like the community standards of the place you're in, you ought to leave. Or at least have the common sense never ever to speak in a negative way about local standards.

Yeah, if the community embraces discrimination, you should embrace it too. And free speech? No, dont do that.

So if you got all prissy about having a blue carpet and refused to change it and your customer went in the red and then closed, you'd win because you kept your beloved blue carpet. I think it would show a complete lack of business sense myself and I would have switched to a different color carpet myself, you know, keep those customers coming.Doesnt mean the customers arent flaming idiots for getting their titties into a twist over the color of a carpet (or flag).

So if you got all prissy about having a blue carpet and refused to change it and your customer went in the red and then closed, you'd win because you kept your beloved blue carpet. I think it would show a complete lack of business sense myself and I would have switched to a different color carpet myself, you know, keep those customers coming.

I guess the difference between you and me is that I don't bow to stupidity. I have this crazy idea that most people in the world are actually intelligent, reasonable people who aren't going to freak out over the fact that I have blue carpet. And, to tell you the truth, I think I'd rather lose a business altogether than only pander to idiots like that. It isn't really a matter of being "prissy".

Doesnt mean the customers arent flaming idiots for getting their titties into a twist over the color of a carpet (or flag).

Oh they're prissy tit twisters all right, I'll agree with that. But hey, that's where ya live, if you want to sell to them they gotta want what you're selling.

Oh they're prissy tit twisters all right, I'll agree with that. But hey, that's where ya live, if you want to sell to them they gotta want what you're selling.

When I sell the cure for cancer, Im gonna tell the religious people I am gay, hopefully they wont buy from me.

Oh they're prissy tit twisters all right, I'll agree with that. But hey, that's where ya live, if you want to sell to them they gotta want what you're selling.
It's a bed and breakfast. The locals aren't going there. They already have homes in the area. That business exists to cater to those poor, unfortunate souls who actually went to Kansas on vacation.

I guess the difference between you and me is that I don't bow to stupidity. I have this crazy idea that most people in the world are actually intelligent, reasonable people who aren't going to freak out over the fact that I have blue carpet. And, to tell you the truth, I think I'd rather lose a business altogether than only pander to idiots like that. It isn't really a matter of being "prissy".

It's a matter of playing chicken with a train in a tunnel, but damnit, you have a 'right' to just stand there on the tracks if you want to. Well good luck to ya.

It's a bed and breakfast. The locals aren't going there. They already have homes in the area. That business exists to cater to those poor, unfortunate souls who actually went to Kansas on vacation.

That's not what the article said (although I agree with your concept), the guy said the customers have slowed down coming and long time customers quit coming (I think he meant they were coming for meals).

Personally I despise the Rainbow Flag, it has too many colors. But I will defend to the death someone's right to wave it. In fact, I'm reminded of a mural in Key West. Not only does it have the rainbow flag, it's got George Washington in his boat and the old Seven Mile Bridge!

http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL291/1756382/4939657/174194274.jpg

That's not what the article said (although I agree with your concept), the guy said the customers have slowed down coming and long time customers quit coming (I think he meant they were coming for meals).
Yeah. Sorry, forgot about that part. Still begs the question though, why does Kansas need hotels and bed and breakfasts? Who goes to Kansas on vacation?

Seems like a lot of you haven't been to Kansas. Everytime I've gone there, people were genuinely nice and minded their business.

Seems like a lot of you haven't been to Kansas. Everytime I've gone there, people were genuinely nice and minded their business.
Kansas has become a national joke for their attempt to remove evolution from the schools and replace it with a religion class. I'm sure that they're nice, polite people, but they don't seem too bright or tolerant judging from the news stories about the place.

Yeah. Sorry, forgot about that part. Still begs the question though, why does Kansas need hotels and bed and breakfasts? Who goes to Kansas on vacation?


I can't imagine. I'll have to do some searching and studying to see if I can answer that one.... :p

If it’s anything like I’ve heard, they hang pictures of Nebraska to remind them of mysterious and exciting far off places right?

Seems like a lot of you haven't been to Kansas. Everytime I've gone there, people were genuinely nice and minded their business.

This is a case of the opposite. Worrying about a rainbow flag someone else has on THEIR establishment isnt nice or minding their own business.

Kansas has become a national joke for their attempt to remove evolution from the schools and replace it with a religion class. I'm sure that they're nice, polite people, but they don't seem too bright or tolerant judging from the news stories about the place.


I agree, but I'll defend their right to be prissy tit twisters if that's what they want to be, democratically and socially and community standards wise, if that’s what they are then it’s nobody else’s business to tell them they can’t do it.

A hetero couple who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Kansas (well that's your problem right there) has run into trouble for flying a "homo rainbow" flag. The local community has their collective panties in a bunch and compare it to flying a swastika flag in a Jewish neighborhood. Funny, I don't remember a bunch of gays trying to force me into a shower room. Anyhoo, just how fucked up is this community?


http://www.kwch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=KWCH%2FMGArticle%2FWCH_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149189283448&path=!news!local
The entire thing is totally ridiculous. The whole town is getting a black eye over this, and it's just adding to the growing opinion that Kansas is about as fucked up as a place can get and still survive.

If I had been the B & B owner, and that dimwitted pastor had threatened me with arrest, I would have hoisted ten pair of women's panties on ten separate falgpoles and dared them to do a damned thing about it!

What I find most amusing is that the anti-gay fundies that are raising this stink are making some big assumptions: ie, that the rainbow flag in this case is in support of homosexual rights.

The story explains it's all about the Wiz of Oz, but really, the fundies have to ask themselves why they automatically assumed it was a pro-gay flag. Have they so easily forgotten that the rainbow is also a Christian symbol? Why didn't they assume that the bed and breakfast wasn't flying the flag of Hope? You know, a symbol of God's promise never to flood the world again, and to let Noah's family live in peace, prosperity, and other general goodliness?

I don't know the Bible all that well, but even I remember the story of Noah's ark. Yeesh.

This is a case of the opposite. Worrying about a rainbow flag someone else has on THEIR establishment isnt nice or minding their own business.
This represents all of Kansas, huh?

The Evolution vs Creationism thing is ridiculous, yes.

I'd really like to know how many of you have spent a decent amount of time in Kansas and have been discriminated against.

This represents all of Kansas, huh?

The Evolution vs Creationism thing is ridiculous, yes.

I'd really like to know how many of you have spent a decent amount of time in Kansas and have been discriminated against.

Well, tell them youre gay and find out.

...Dude, you're not in America any more, you're in Kanasas. It is royally f'up beyond repair.

I've lived in Kansas a long time, and I can vouch for this understatement.

Case and point:
A coworker of mine uttered this phrase today, in all seriousness: "I've got a Bible in my house, and it's called Mein Kampf."

This represents all of Kansas, huh?

The Evolution vs Creationism thing is ridiculous, yes.

I'd really like to know how many of you have spent a decent amount of time in Kansas and have been discriminated against.*raises hand*

I have.

Well, tell them youre gay and find out.
I would if I was and they asked. As it is, I'm of mixed race, they're supposedly racist over there, ya know? Not from what I've seen.

I've already had experience in Kansas many times because I used to live close to Kansas. What is your experience aside from some articles and stories on the national news?

*raises hand*

I have. What did they say to you that was descriminatory?

I've already had experience in Kansas many times because I used to live close to Kansas. What is your experience aside from some articles and stories on the national news?

Are you going to claim that the articles and news are inaccurate? That they are making up these situations?

If not, we can either conclude that there are more of these types of people in Kansas, or that there are more of them in power, than the majority of the country.

Seems like a lot of you haven't been to Kansas. Everytime I've gone there, people were genuinely nice and minded their business.



They're laughing at people in Kansas for being prejudiced against gays, by being prejudiced against people from Kansas.

The rainbow means gay rights now, and everybody knows it.

Some straights may be uncomfortable dining at an establishment that has a gay rights flag hanging up, apparently this makes them racists.

Are you going to claim that the articles and news are inaccurate? That they are making up these situations?

If not, we can either conclude that there are more of these types of people in Kansas, or that there are more of them in power, than the majority of the country.
Sorry but where did I say that they were inaccurate or made up? The majority of people from Kansas are not bigots and even if they were, wouldn't bother with you. You're rarely ever going to see good news coming out of a state, keep that in mind. Your going to conclude that all Kansans are gay haters because of this? I wouldn't say that for any state but do what you want.

They're laughing at people in Kansas for being prejudiced against gays, by being prejudiced against people from Kansas.

I've got no problem with people from Kansas. I do have a problem with idiots, and this story is about idiots who happen to be in Kansas.

The rainbow means gay rights now, and everybody knows it.

Obviously not. The article was clear that the majority of the people in the town had no idea whatsoever that the rainbow flag is linked to gay rights. It wasn't until someone (who never bothered to talk to the owner of the establishment) printed an article in the newspaper that the town got up in arms about it.

Some straights may be uncomfortable dining at an establishment that has a gay rights flag hanging up, apparently this makes them racists.

No, it makes them homophobes - especially when it has been explained that the flag represents nothing of the sort to the person who put it up.

They're laughing at people in Kansas for being prejudiced against gays, by being prejudiced against people from Kansas.

The rainbow means gay rights now, and everybody knows it.

Some straights may be uncomfortable dining at an establishment that has a gay rights flag hanging up, apparently this makes them racists.
No, being uncomfortable dining in a restaruant that flys a rainbow flag makes them homophobes. The white sheets they wear make them racists.

Sorry but where did I say that they were inaccurate or made up? The majority of people from Kansas are not bigots and even if they were, wouldn't bother with you. You're rarely ever going to see good news coming out of a state, keep that in mind. Your going to conclude that all Kansans are gay haters because of this? I wouldn't say that for any state but do what you want.

Way to put words into my mouth. At what point did I say "all Kansans are gay haters"????

In fact, what I said was that the sheer number of stories about bigotry and religious fundamentalism that come out of Kansas can lead us to believe that (a) there is a greater percentage of such people in Kansas than in the rest of the country or (b) such people hold more power in Kansas than the rest of the country.

Not once did I suggest that *all* or even most Kansans would agree with such stupidity.

What did they say to you that was descriminatory?Oh nothing, I was just beat up and left to die because some people saw me holding hands with a man.

Way to put words into my mouth. At what point did I say "all Kansans are gay haters"????

In fact, what I said was that the sheer number of stories about bigotry and religious fundamentalism that come out of Kansas can lead us to believe that (a) there is a greater percentage of such people in Kansas than in the rest of the country or (b) such people hold more power in Kansas than the rest of the country.

Not once did I suggest that *all* or even most Kansans would agree with such stupidity.
I haven't seen a ton of stories out of Kansas, especially not on the national news. When talking about Kansas, people usually bring up the Evolution issue in the schools, not things like this. Stop saying "us", say "I",as I'm not going to condemn the majority of a state because of a couple articles I read about a few people in a town.

Oh nothing, I was just beat up and left to die because some people saw me holding hands with a man.I love when that happens in any city downtown regardless of whether or not you're holding hands with a man.

I love when that happens in any city downtown regardless of whether or not you're holding hands with a man.It only happened because I was.

I love when that happens in any city downtown regardless of whether or not you're holding hands with a man.Which just proves that they're violent and criminal and not discriminatory. ;)

What a bunch of backwards hicks. These are the kind of people that piss me off to no end and when they pull shit like this it makes me proud to say I am an anti-fundamentalist. These assholes need to get a life.

I haven't seen a ton of stories out of Kansas, especially not on the national news. When talking about Kansas, people usually bring up the Evolution issue in the schools, not things like this. Stop saying "us", say "I",as I'm not going to condemn the majority of a state because of a couple articles I read about a few people in a town.

Wow, is reading really that difficult for you? Or are you just hell-bent on suggesting that I am stereotyping all Kansans? I didn't "condemn the majority of a state..." either. In fact, I made it exceedingly clear that I wasn't talking about a majority.

Meanwhile, I have seen all sorts of stories, both of this type and of the "evolution in the schools" type come out of Kansas.

It only happened because I was.I'm sorry that happened to you. Where in Kansas were you? Honestly, I lived in Missouri for 9 years, go back up there every year because I still have family there and a couple friends in Kansas. I've never heard of people in Kansas being like that and I went over all the time. You met a bunch of assholes.

Which just proves that they're violent and criminal and not discriminatory. ;)I didn't say they were discrimnatory. :confused:

No, being uncomfortable dining in a restaruant that flys a rainbow flag makes them homophobes. The white sheets they wear make them racists.

They're homophobes because they don't want to be reminded of "the struggle" before they dine?

They're homophobes because they don't want to be reminded of "the struggle" before they dine?
They're homophobes because a multicolored piece of cloth that has some potential link to gay culture flapping in the breeze outside the restaurant will put them off their feed.

I'm sorry that happened to you. Where in Kansas were you? Honestly, I lived in Missouri for 9 years, go back up there every year because I still have family there and a couple friends in Kansas. I've never heard of people in Kansas being like that and I went over all the time. You met a bunch of assholes.Something that has always saddened me is how such nice people can do such evil things. I know some really nice people that turn into monsters the moment you mention homosexuality.
I didn't say they were discrimnatory. :confused:Getting beat up downtown regardless of the reasons has little to do with getting beat of for holding hands then. Why did you bring it up?

Why has Kansas become so extreme lately?

Most of the people complaining about this flag are probably the kind who whine about political correctness as well. The irony of it all.

However, I can fuly understand the outrage by the community.
Pfft, it's about as understandable as wanting to ban "Baa Baa Black Sheep" because it's "racist".

Thanks. Hey tolerance does not mean we need to agree with each other but just that we can respect people with different views. That is what America is all about. We are a melting pot of different views and backgrounds.
Should intolerance be tolerated?

I guess maybe it's time that some sinister folks just learned adherence to the values of the median community in the State they're in...
Such fucking relativism. Kansas' intolerant values shouldn't be honoured by adherence.

*shrug* Either way, if you don't like the community standards of the place you're in, you ought to leave. Or at least have the common sense never ever to speak in a negative way about local standards.
So the Jew living in a hypothetical Nazi community shouldn't fly the star of David for fear of offending people?

In this case? The idiot customers. Anyone who is "scared off" by a rainbow probably shouldn't be eating out anyways - the food might scare them. And if he cares more about his son and his son's feelings than a bunch of idiots, I say more power to him.
Well, I suppose the customer is king in business.

They're homophobes because they don't want to be reminded of "the struggle" before they dine?As the article stated, until one of the newspapers of the town explained the "real meaning" of the flag, they weren't.

Well, I suppose the customer is king in business.

To a point. Of course, now that the news of this has gotten out, I wouldn't be surprised if more homosexual couples suddenly started to vacation in Kansas....

LOL, wouldn't that be counterproductive for a town of homophobes? Freak out about a flag that the owner of the restaurant meant nothing by, and all of a sudden you've got "teh gays" visiting. =)

I'm sorry that happened to you. Where in Kansas were you? Honestly, I lived in Missouri for 9 years, go back up there every year because I still have family there and a couple friends in Kansas. I've never heard of people in Kansas being like that and I went over all the time. You met a bunch of assholes.Overland Park. I've always held my boyfriends hand no matter where I was, whether it be in New York or Wyoming (shudders), because I'm not ashamed or afraid, but it did just make worse the bad image I had of Kansas before going.

Something that has always saddened me is how such nice people can do such evil things. I know some really nice people that turn into monsters the moment you mention homosexuality. Obviously they weren't all that nice or Christian to begin with. I'm not sticking up for those people at all.

Getting beat up downtown regardless of the reasons has little to do with getting beat of for holding hands then. Why did you bring it up?Probably because it was a joke, I'll put a smiley up for you next time, chief.

Overland Park. I've always held my boyfriends hand no matter where I was, whether it be in New York or Wyoming (shudders), because I'm not ashamed or afraid, but it did just make worse the bad image I had of Kansas before going.You have to be joking. Overland Park is nice,businessy and white collar, it's not the supposed bunch of "hicks" like say, the middle of Kansas. That is truely bizarre. That's like having that happen in upper class St.Louis or (insert nice part of a city here). You definetely have a reason to hate Kansas. I'm just sick of the people who hate it without knowing anything about it or even going.

Obviously they weren't all that nice or Christian to begin with. I'm not sticking up for those people at all.The point I'm trying to make is that monster can be in a lot of people, and a lot of times you'd never notice because situations that would reveal it just never turn up.

Probably because it was a joke, I'll put a smiley up for you next time, chief.A lot of jokes that rely on tone of voice don't translate well into text. I gotcha ;)

The point I'm trying to make is that monster can be in a lot of people, and a lot of times you'd never notice because situations that would reveal it just never turn up.

A lot of jokes that rely on tone of voice don't translate well into text. I gotcha ;)
Thank you, that makes me have no faith in humanity.

Yes, I've always been told that my typing doesn't express very much in terms of emotion or inflection. :(

You have to be joking. Overland Park is nice,businessy and white collar, it's not the supposed bunch of "hicks" like say, the middle of Kansas. That is truely bizarre. That's like having that happen in upper class St.Louis or (insert nice part of a city here). You definetely have a reason to hate Kansas. I'm just sick of the people who hate it without knowing anything about it or even going.Exactly. When I went I thought "wow Kansas isn't as bad as I thought it would be," then that happens couple days later. I was surprised.

I still like Kansas though.

Exactly. When I went I thought "wow Kansas isn't as bad as I thought it would be," then that happens couple days later. I was surprised.

I still like Kansas though.
I'm very sorry and surprised that happened to you there.

They're serving their time for it, so all is good.

thats stupid. in some parts of the world (inckuding europe) rainbow flags are associated with peace, not gay pride. and attacking someone for what yiu deem to be a symbol ofbeing gays is just childish homophobia. well, kansas' citizens are morons anyway.

They're laughing at people in Kansas for being prejudiced against gays, by being prejudiced against people from Kansas.

Hey, do unto others. Im going to treat others like they treat me and my fellow supporters of gay rights.

Hey, do unto others.
Before they do unto you

Before they do unto you

What?

What?
Do unto others before they do unto you. It's a semi-clever little saying in favor of preemptive action.

the USA is a free democracy
Democracy is the antithesis of freedom.

Have they so easily forgotten that the rainbow is also a Christian symbol? Why didn't they assume that the bed and breakfast wasn't flying the flag of Hope?
I think they were proclaiming their love of the classic hard rock band Rainbow.

Democracy is the antithesis of freedom.

I'd take democracy over a corporate police state or a psychotic dictatorship any day.

I'd take democracy over a corporate police state or a psychotic dictatorship any day.
But none of them guarantee individual freedom.

But none of them guarantee individual freedom.
That's why you need a constitution to limit the powers of the majority and guarantee the rights of all people.

Hey, do unto others. Im going to treat others like they treat me and my fellow supporters of gay rights.

So...

How does that apply to masochists (spelled horribly wrong I'm sure) or someone's who's most fervent wish is to be sacrificed to a crocodile god?

masochists (spelled horribly wrong I'm sure)Nope :)

That's why you need a constitution to limit the powers of the majority and guarantee the rights of all people.
Sure.

But that's contrary to democracy. With democracy, the people get what the people want, and if the people disagree, they vote, and the majority wins. Every time.

Rainbow flags make me feel icky, regardless or who flys them.

Even more so if said flag fliers are straight. Makes you wonder if they're working on coming out, or if they're unsure of it, or if they're confused. Watch your six....

They're homophobes because a multicolored piece of cloth that has some potential link to gay culture flapping in the breeze outside the restaurant will put them off their feed.

Th rainbow has become a symbol of gay pride.

It has been since I was at least 16.

If this morons buisness is suffering, and he's not trying to make a political point then why doesn't he put a Wizard of Oz patch in the middle?

People have had it up to here with the "in your face Gay pride" and it's starting to have the opposite effect, which is unfortunate.

So if you got all prissy about having a blue carpet and refused to change it and your customers left and your business went in the red and then closed, you'd win because you kept your beloved blue carpet. I think it would show a complete lack of business sense myself and I would have switched to a different color carpet myself, you know, keep those customers coming.


Some people don't feel that knuckling under because they are being bullied is the correct lesson to teach their children.

Rainbow flags make me feel icky, regardless or who flys them.

Even more so if said flag fliers are straight. Makes you wonder if they're working on coming out, or if they're unsure of it, or if they're confused. Watch your six....

Or maybe they're people who live in Kansas and are thinking of the song, "Over the Rainbow."

Rainbow flags make me feel icky, regardless or who flys them.

Even more so if said flag fliers are straight. Makes you wonder if they're working on coming out, or if they're unsure of it, or if they're confused. Watch your six....
:rolleyes: And why is it that people who loudly proclaim their straightness and disgust of homosexuals are always convinced they are targets of homosexuals?

You see, in Kanasas only, the combined colours of the flag give you a horrible ailment. Let me put it this way *goes over to piano*

Though this is impertinent
And even has a certain bent
It will be a health enhancer
Rainbow flags give you cancer

Your eyes will melt into goo
Your brain'll split into two
Your stomach'll fill with brine
And tumors'll grow on your spine

Though you may not want to hear
About this healthy fear
It will be a health enhancer
Rainbow flags give you cancer

The flies will come to you
Eating a human stew
Your heart wil implode on site
You won't make it through the nite

So remember when you buy a flag
Look carefully at the rag
If it has both violet and red
You will soon be dead

thats stupid. in some parts of the world (inckuding europe) rainbow flags are associated with peace, not gay pride. and attacking someone for what yiu deem to be a symbol ofbeing gays is just childish homophobia. well, kansas' citizens are morons anyway.
You have similar freaks in your country, don't you?

Democracy is the antithesis of freedom.

I thought totalitarianism was the antithesis of freedom.

Rainbow flags make me feel icky, regardless or who flys them.

Even more so if said flag fliers are straight. Makes you wonder if they're working on coming out, or if they're unsure of it, or if they're confused. Watch your six....
Gay = bad, war [murder] = good, right?

People have had it up to here with the "in your face Gay pride" and it's starting to have the opposite effect, which is unfortunate.
A flag isn't in your face. You won't be happy til gay people hide themselves away.

People have had it up to here with the "in your face Gay pride" and it's starting to have the opposite effect, which is unfortunate.
Yeah, people are starting to get sick of how some crazy fucks think they get to display a flag on their own property, as if it was their RIGHT or something! What are their neighbors supposed to do, just not look at it?! As if that's even possible!

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Isn't it funny how certain manly-men will insist that they have not the strength to avert their oh-so-manly eyes from the sight of a rainbow flag? Isn't it funny how the sight of two homosexuals holding hands in public will burn a horrible and permanent image onto their manly retinas? Or that their manly selves insist that they cannot possibly maintain a relationship with a woman if they know that somewhere there is a dude kissing another dude?

Why is it that these manly men are the ones who seem the least capable of enduring the slightest discomfort or inconvenience? I thought manly men were supposed to be rugged and tough, not whimpering little babies who cry because somebody put up a nasty old flag.

Another thing hijacked by homosexuals. It's not fair!

OMG Rainbow Brite must be a lesbian!
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6812/1041/320/RainbowBrite.0.jpg

If you can't see the pic, here is the original press release from Hallmark:

http://pressroom.hallmark.com/licensing_rainbow_brite.html

Th rainbow has become a symbol of gay pride.

It has been since I was at least 16.

If this morons buisness is suffering, and he's not trying to make a political point then why doesn't he put a Wizard of Oz patch in the middle?

People have had it up to here with the "in your face Gay pride" and it's starting to have the opposite effect, which is unfortunate.
So, when it stops raining, and this rainbow-colored elongated flag-like thing appears in the sky, does it automatically make you think about gays and how much you hate thinking about them and how you wouldn't have to think about them if they weren't all up in your face all the time with their icky pride, spread all across the sky like that, just as if god didn't really hate them as much as the people in Kansas do?

:rolleyes: And why is it that people who loudly proclaim their straightness and disgust of homosexuals are always convinced they are targets of homosexuals?
Now that you mention it, they do seem to spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex, don't they? Hm...

I've always wanted to ask raging homophobes "What qualities do you posess that make you attractive to gay people?"

A flag isn't in your face. You won't be happy til gay people hide themselves away.

You don't know shit about what makes me happy.

I rocked freedom rings before they were popular, once even in a Catholic walkathon.

You don't shit about what makes me happy.

I rocked freedom rings before they were popular, once even in a Catholic walkathon.

I'm sure that made sense to you, however it didn't to the rest of us.

Yeah, people are starting to get sick of how some crazy fucks think they get to display a flag on their own property, as if it was their RIGHT or something! What are their neighbors supposed to do, just not look at it?! As if that's even possible!

They can display whatever flag they wish, people just won't dine there.

When I go out to eat, I'm looking for a meal not political statements.



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How dare you.


Isn't it funny how certain manly-men will insist that they have not the strength to avert their oh-so-manly eyes from the sight of a rainbow flag? Isn't it funny how the sight of two homosexuals holding hands in public will burn a horrible and permanent image onto their manly retinas? Or that their manly selves insist that they cannot possibly maintain a relationship with a woman if they know that somewhere there is a dude kissing another dude?

Why is it that these manly men are the ones who seem the least capable of enduring the slightest discomfort or inconvenience? I thought manly men were supposed to be rugged and tough, not whimpering little babies who cry because somebody put up a nasty old flag.

I don't care if dudes kiss dudes, so I wouldn't know anything about that.

I think that guy knew what he was doing, took a hit in the pocket and is now using his son as scapegoat so he can get out of this without getting egg on his face.

So, when it stops raining, and this rainbow-colored elongated flag-like thing appears in the sky, does it automatically make you think about gays and how much you hate thinking about them and how you wouldn't have to think about them if they weren't all up in your face all the time with their icky pride, spread all across the sky like that, just as if god didn't really hate them as much as the people in Kansas do?

No, it makes me think of the second episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

They can display whatever flag they wish, people just won't dine there.

When I go out to eat, I'm looking for a meal not political statements.

Would you have the same response if instead of a gay pride flag it was a sign that says "god bless america?"

I suspect not, and I suspect the majority of those bothered by it in Kansas would not either.

Would you have the same response if instead of a gay pride flag it was a sign that says "god bless america?"

I suspect not, and I suspect the majority of those bothered by it in Kansas would not either.


God Bless America isn't a political statement.

God Bless America isn't a political statement.

It's less of one than "we support gays?"

How about "Bush/Cheney '08"?

Or "we support our troops?"

It's less of one than "we support gays?"

How about "Bush/Cheney '08"?

Or "we support our troops?"

No on "Bush/Cheney '08"

We support our troops isn't a political statement either, so yes I would eat there.

I'd eat at a gay owned diner too.

We support our troops isn't a political statement either, so yes I would eat there.


Congratulations, you're a hypocrite!

Unless you think of some reason why "we support our troops" is any different than "we support gays", that doesn't rely on some BS about how "gays are icky"

I'd eat at a gay owned diner too.

I feel like I've heard this line before......

Oh yeah, "I'm not a racist, some of my best friends are black!"

Congratulations, you're a hypocrite!

Name calling?

Only dickheads call people names.

Unless you think of some reason why "we support our troops" is any different than "we support gays", that doesn't rely on some BS about how "gays are icky"

Our troops put there lives at risk, also some of them are gay.

Supporting homosexuality has a sexual content to it that doesn't go well with fine dining.

Supporting homosexuality has a sexual content to it that doesn't go well with fine dining.

So again, it's not that you don't like political statements, you're fine with political statements about groups you like. You just don't like them about groups you find "icky".

I stand by my hypocrite comment.

I feel like I've heard this line before......

Oh yeah, "I'm not a racist, some of my best friends are black!"

:rolleyes:

Yes I'm a big bad racist hypocrite, you have me all figured out.

So again, it's not that you don't like political statements, you're fine with political statements about groups you like. You just don't like them about groups you find "icky".

I stand by my hypocrite comment.


No I'm just sick of certain political statements.

Abortion would be another, Stem cell research too.

Anything icky in general now that you have me really thinking about it.

Looks like my friend's idea about the Great Wall of Kansas and the the Filling of the Great Wall of Kansas with Napalm, may have to be used....

Only dickheads call people names.

Anybody else see something odd about this statement?

Our troops put there lives at risk, also some of them are gay.

Supporting homosexuality has a sexual content to it that doesn't go well with fine dining.


Supporting troops has a 'blood, guts, and gore' content to it that doesn't go well with fine dining.

Swastika was actually used many centuries before nazis as a symbol of luck and peace. Nazi's took it to themselves and now everyone thinks that it's a bad symbol because of those f-tards

Oh yea, and also the eastern countries still use it all over the place and noone thinks it's not normal. Just the USA and Europe probably because they were affected more by nazis.


They have them in the Catherdral in Christ Church here in NZ, built pre-WWII obviously.

OMG Rainbow Brite must be a lesbian!
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6812/1041/320/RainbowBrite.0.jpg


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They can display whatever flag they wish, people just won't dine there.

When I go out to eat, I'm looking for a meal not political statements.

Darling, that's not what this topic is about. If homophobes were simply content to take their business elsewhere, nobody would give a rat's ass. But that isn't how it goes. Instead, they need to throw public tantrums. Which, incidently, have resulted in thousands more people having that flag "shoved in their face" than would have happened otherwise.

Frankly, I find that homosexuality is shoved in my face by homophobes far more often than by homosexuals. Pretty much all the homosexuals I've ever encountered are content to simply be gay and get on with their own lives. They aren't that interested in what I happen to think of them, so they don't waste much time trying to shove anything in my face.

In contrast, most homophobes are urgently concerned with my opinion, and they cannot accept anything less than my total attention to their cause. They need me to be frantic with rage at the faggots. They need me to be constantly reassuring them that heterosexuality is better, best, bestest of all.

Homophobes are the ones who want to go to gay sex clubs and tell me all the horror stories they can. They're the ones who want to have graphic discussions about anal sex, fisting, BDSM, and all other manner of pornographic topics. They really, really, REALLY want me to care.


I don't care if dudes kiss dudes, so I wouldn't know anything about that.

I think that guy knew what he was doing, took a hit in the pocket and is now using his son as scapegoat so he can get out of this without getting egg on his face.
Um, the guy in question is pissed because the flag he dedicated to his son's memory was stolen by homophobic vandals who insist that all rainbows must have something to do with fags, and all fags deserve to have their property stolen. The guy in question isn't using his dead son as an excuse for why other people are fuckwits, and I think you're on dangerous ground if you try to go that way. You're veering into Casey Sheehan territory when you claim that parents who grieve and try to honor their child's memory are just 'using' their dead kid. That's deeply fucked up.

They have them in the Catherdral in Christ Church here in NZ, built pre-WWII obviously.

They are also somewhat common in India still. I saw a number of them on a recent trip to Bangalore. There the original symbolism of the symbol is stronger than the abuse of the symbol a continent away.

I should point out that I remember a certain US politician trying to take over the rainbow for a different type of coalition. He's still around by the way.

Personally I don't mind the rainbow flag, although it's too busy for me to be a flag. It's like those St. Patrick's Day flags you see on houses with a leprechan and a apot of gold (and a rainbow as well). Too busy, too many colors. Personally I just want OZ back. I want to be able to have my Barbershop chorus sing "Over the Rainbow" without everyone getting the impression that somehow we are all homosexuals or something.

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Um, the guy in question is pissed because the flag he dedicated to his son's memory was stolen by homophobic vandals who insist that all rainbows must have something to do with fags, and all fags deserve to have their property stolen. The guy in question isn't using his dead son as an excuse for why other people are fuckwits, and I think you're on dangerous ground if you try to go that way. You're veering into Casey Sheehan territory when you claim that parents who grieve and try to honor their child's memory are just 'using' their dead kid. That's deeply fucked up.

Where in that article does it say anything about the kid having passed away? From the way I read it the flag was a gift, it was just a souvenir from his 12-year-old son and, "his son gave him the flag after a trip to Dorothy's house, a museum about the Wizard of Oz. The flag reminded the boy of "somewhere over the rainbow." But I don't see where the boy is put in the grave anywhere...

Um, the guy in question is pissed because the flag he dedicated to his son's memory was stolen by homophobic vandals who insist that all rainbows must have something to do with fags, and all fags deserve to have their property stolen. The guy in question isn't using his dead son as an excuse for why other people are fuckwits, and I think you're on dangerous ground if you try to go that way. You're veering into Casey Sheehan territory when you claim that parents who grieve and try to honor their child's memory are just 'using' their dead kid. That's deeply fucked up.

No where in that article does it say the mans' son has passed away or that the flag was ever stolen.

However, Upon re-reading and re-watching the whole article I learned that the man was from California, which means if he doesn't know what that flag means he must have been living under retard-rock.

I love my dead, gay son!

Anybody else see something odd about this statement?


http://www.fellinahole.com/sysadmin/index.php?/archives/70-Daim-Bramaged.html

Yet it sounded not so much like sarcasm as flaming.

But thanks for playing.

Supporting troops has a 'blood, guts, and gore' content to it that doesn't go well with fine dining.

Not true.

There are many in America that claim to support the troops, but not the war, at least that's what they say.

Alot of people are just not comfortable with certain subjects, especially at dinner.

Homosexuality is one of them.

This means that gay activists need to choose their battles carefully and let time do some of the work.

Yet it sounded not so much like sarcasm as flaming.

But thanks for playing.


I was having a nice conversation with him till I was called a racist and a hypocrite.

I thought it was rather clever, if you interpet the statement as me calling him a dickhead, then by the same logic I must be calling myself a dickhead because I am calling him a name.

But I meant no harm, and apologize.

*shrug* Either way, if you don't like the community standards of the place you're in, you ought to leave. Or at least have the common sense never ever to speak in a negative way about local standards.

And yet, you seem to advocate the enslaving of all Arabs, if not exterminating them all, on the basis of "they won't obey my slightest whim"

Got you now you hypocrite.

The rainbow means gay rights now, and everybody knows it.


Uh huh. So you want to introduce some legislation banning the naturally occuring event that happens after rain on a sunny day cause it means gay rights? I'll give you a clue, it's called a rainbow.

Maybe you want to legislate against nature?

Uh huh. So you want to introduce some legislation banning the naturally occuring event that happens after rain on a sunny day cause it means gay rights? I'll give you a clue, it's called a rainbow.

Maybe you want to legislate against nature?
Nature is totally uncivilized and a bad influence on our children. Just look at all the sex and violence in nature. And nature does it all out in public where anyone could see it.

Nature is totally uncivilized and a bad influence on our children. Just look at all the sex and violence in nature. And nature does it all out in public where anyone could see it.

We must invade nature immediatly!

I was having a nice conversation with him till I was called a racist and a hypocrite.



I never called you a racist in the slightest. I merely stated that saying "I'm not homophobic, I'd eat at a gay owned diner" is functionally the same as saying "I'm not a racist, I have black friends!", neither statement doing anything to disprove anything, and the second often bantered about as if it were some sort of "proof".

Likewise, unless for some reason you think the flag is talking to you (in which case, I suggest lithium) a simple flag says nothing, requires nothing from you, and exists as a simple, and quiet, statement.

If you chose to discuss it, that's your choice.

I was having a nice conversation with him till I was called a racist and a hypocrite.

I thought it was rather clever, if you interpet the statement as me calling him a dickhead, then by the same logic I must be calling myself a dickhead because I am calling him a name.

But I meant no harm, and apologize.


No official warning, just a friendly observation.

We must invade nature immediatly!
Quick, everybody dump used motor oil into your local rives and streams!

Quick, everybody dump used motor oil into your local rives and streams!

In order to help america's war efforts in this War Against Nature we ask that all Americans follow a voluntary gasoline unrationing. To do so, we request everyone burn at least 10 gallons of fossil fuel a day, until we triumph.

Remember, if you conserve, the naturalists win!

Uh huh. So you want to introduce some legislation banning the naturally occuring event that happens after rain on a sunny day cause it means gay rights? I'll give you a clue, it's called a rainbow.

Maybe you want to legislate against nature?

We're not talking about regular rainbows.

We're talking about rainbow flags.

The flag is a symbol for gay pride, has been since at least 1978.

Not once did I call for the banning of the flag. I merley pointed out that some people don't want to see gay rights symbols while they eat. Especially in a conservative Kansas town.

We're not talking about regular rainbows.

We're talking about rainbow flags.

The flag is a symbol for gay pride, has been since at least 1978.

Not once did I call for the banning of the flag. I merley pointed out that some people don't want to see gay rights symbols while they eat. Especially in a conservative Kansas town.And people pointed out that no one in that town knew until they were made aware of the fact by a local newspaper.

Rainbow flags make me feel icky, regardless or who flys them.

Even more so if said flag fliers are straight. Makes you wonder if they're working on coming out, or if they're unsure of it, or if they're confused. Watch your six....

Oh no! They make you... ICKY!

And the 'watch your six' bit: bad show, bad show.

Not true.

There are many in America that claim to support the troops, but not the war, at least that's what they say.

Alot of people are just not comfortable with certain subjects, especially at dinner.

Homosexuality is one of them.

This means that gay activists need to choose their battles carefully and let time do some of the work.


A lot of people don't want to see religion shoved in their face when they go to eat. Does that mean that it should be all right to vandalize/steal/want to ban a 'God Bless America' sign outside of a restaurant? (note: not 'does it happen', but 'should it be all right to')

While I agree that many gay activists go way overboard on the thing, what gets me is that the flag wasn't an issue until some homophobic members of the community made it into something it wasn't. And as far as the article said, many members of the community didn't even think of it like that, until someone made a stink, and now they're vying for the restaurant owner's blood for daring waving some fggt flag in their community.

And while, yes, many people support the troops but not the war, the troops are out at war and what is brought to mind when the words 'Support The Toops' come out, is the current war. war -> blood, guts, gore

Not something I necessarily want to be thinking about when I want to dine.

Of course, the 'troops' thing only has about as much merit as saying that flying a rainbow flag outside of a restaurant means that people are going to be thinking about gay sex at the dinner table. People just need to learn not to be so uptight.

And people pointed out that no one in that town knew until they were made aware of the fact by a local newspaper.


No.

That's what the one guy who owned the establishment said.

A lot of people don't want to see religion shoved in their face when they go to eat. Does that mean that it should be all right to vandalize/steal/want to ban a 'God Bless America' sign outside of a restaurant?

Nobody stole, vandalized, or attempted to ban anything.

They just stopped going to his bed and breakfast.

No.

That's what the one guy who owned the establishment said.Guess again:
In fact, most people we spoke to in Meade said they didn’t even know what the flag meant until the article ran.

Guess again:


No Guess needed.

The owner is the one who said that, watch the video.

No Guess needed.

The owner is the one who said that, watch the video.So you're saying the article is lying about asking the people in Meade if they knew what the flag meant?

although the ' rainbow " flag has been used by homosexuals it is wrong to say its a
"Homo ' flag , because it was used to show unity and tolerance and acceptance of all faiths and races ..see the rainbow coalition etc.

These Kansas assholes need that flag and need to educate themselves a bit out of the middle ages .

The guys right to keep it and shine the light of public opinion on his medival neighbors .

In his honor I hung panties out my window ...try and take them down bitche's ...............:D

Nobody stole, vandalized, or attempted to ban anything.

They just stopped going to his bed and breakfast.

True. I read ""When this rainbow flag shreds, I will buy another one, and another one, and another one - just like my American flag, I'll buy another one."" and, unfortunately, assumed. I didn't reread the article before replying. My mistake.

So you're saying the article is lying about asking the people in Meade if they knew what the flag meant?

The article didn't say they asked anyone.

It says "most people we spoke to in Meade."

They spoke to Knight, maybe his wife, and a half retard named Keith Klass.


Knight says the local Meade newspaper is trying to put him out of business and was frustrated when it ran an article about the flag and did not even bother to contact him regarding why he put it up. In fact, most people we spoke to in Meade said they didn’t even know what the flag meant until the article ran. But once word got around, the reaction was harsh.

If you watch the video, JR Knight, the B&B owner, is the one who basically says the above.

Since the newspaper didn't show any other people besides Knight say those things in the video, I concluded it was him.

When I factor in that Knight had a problem prior to this incident with the local radio station, he is from California, and that the article is written in an almost misleading manner I am forced to call BULLSHIT.

Maybe you want to legislate against nature?

Well, being gay is natural...