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ARC propses moon base to save civilization, biodiversity.

Eutrusca
02-08-2006, 01:01
COMMENTARY: It's about time someone began to think about the long-term survival of the human race. I would love to see an alliance between the Alliance to Rescue Civlization (http://www.arc-space.org/) ( ARC ) and Virgin Galactic (http://www.virgingalactic.com/).

Your thoughts?


Life After Earth:
Imagining Survival Beyond This Terra Firma (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/science/01arc.html?th&emc=th)


By RICHARD MORGAN
Published: August 1, 2006
When the dust settles after World War III, or World War IX, humanity will still want to grow pineapples, rice, coffee and other crops. That is why in June on the island of Svalbard in the Norwegian Arctic, all five Scandinavian prime ministers met to break ground on a $4.8-million “doomsday vault” that will stockpile crop seeds in case of global catastrophe.

While it boasts the extra safety of Arctic temperatures, the seed bank is just the latest life-preservation plan to reach reality, joining genetic banks like the Frozen Ark, a British program that is storing DNA samples from endangered species like the scimitar-horned oryx, the Seychelles Frégate beetle and the British field cricket.

To a certain group preoccupied with doomsday, these projects are laudable but share a deep flaw: they are Earth-bound. A global catastrophe — like a collision with an asteroid or a nuclear winter — would have to be rather tame in order not to rattle the test tubes in the various ark-style labs around the world. What kind of feeble doomsday would leave London safe and sound?

Cue the Alliance to Rescue Civilization, a group that advocates a backup for humanity by way of a station on the Moon replete with DNA samples of all life on Earth, as well as a compendium of all human knowledge — the ultimate detached garage for a race of packrats. It would be run by people who, through fertility treatments and frozen human eggs and sperm, could serve as a new Adam and Eve in addition to their role as a new Noah.

Far from the lunatic fringe, the leaders of the alliance have serious careers: Robert Shapiro, the group’s founder, is a professor emeritus and senior research scientist in biochemistry at New York University; Ray Erikson runs an aerospace development firm in Boston and has been a NASA committee chair; Steven M. Wolfe, as a Congressional aide, drafted and helped pass the Space Settlement Act of 1988, which mandated that NASA plan a shift from space exploration to space colonization, and was executive director of the Congressional Space Caucus; William E. Burrows, an author of several books on space, is the director of the Science, Health and Environmental Reporting Program at N.Y.U.

President Bush has already proposed a Moon base. “He just needs to be told what it’s good for,” Dr. Shapiro said. Dr. Shapiro has written a number of books on the origins of life on Earth, as well as “Planetary Dreams: The Quest to Discover Life Beyond Earth,” where he unveiled the civilization rescue project.

In 1999, the same year the book came out, Dr. Shapiro wrote an essay with Mr. Burrows for Ad Astra, an astronomy journal. There, they formally laid out their plan for the rescue alliance, beginning by warning that “the most enduring pictures to come back from the Apollo missions were not of astronauts cavorting on the Sea of Tranquillity, nor even of the lunar landscape itself.”

“They were the haunting views of Earth, seen for the first time not as a boundless and resilient colossus of land and water,” they continued, “but as a startlingly vulnerable lifeboat precariously plying a vast and dangerous sea: a ‘blue marble’ in a black void.” A conversation shortly after the essay was published, Dr. Shapiro recalled, resounded with the earnest imagination of science fiction drama:

Dr. Shapiro: “We’ve got to use space to protect humanity!”

Mr. Burrows: “By God! Yes!”

The concept is not new, but there is some fresh momentum. Mr. Burrows’s new book, “The Survival Imperative: Using Space to Protect Earth,” is due out this month. And the physicist Stephen W. Hawking, who is not part of the group, began arguing this summer that human survival depends on leaving Earth.

The mission of the Alliance to Rescue Civilization has also attracted the support of Col. Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the Moon, who now devotes much of his time to the idea of Martian colonization.

“It takes a big reason to go to the Moon, because, frankly, it’s a lousy place to be,” Colonel Aldrin said in a telephone interview. “But this is exactly the kind of planning as a human race we need to secure our future.

“But the A.R.C. idea isn’t ahead of its time because it’s needed right now. It’s a reasonable thing to do with our space technology, sending valuable stuff to a reliable off-site location. NASA is certainly not bending backwards to do it. It’s the private people like A.R.C.”

Born and raised within walking distance of the Bronx Zoo — and he walked that distance often — Dr. Shapiro developed an early interest in biodiversity. He frets over the frailty of civilization and the planet, but he is not a pessimist. He compares the Moon-base idea to a safe-deposit box.

“It makes sense to protect the things you value,” he said. “But we, as a civilization, we don’t have anything like that.” The trouble with doomsday, Dr. Shapiro argues, is that it is almost always rendered in popular culture as grandiose, though in reality, many minor incidents present substantial everyday threats.

In 1918, an influenza strain killed some 30 million people; a possible new bird flu strain spurs contemporary panic. In January 2003, a computer virus shut down airlines, banks and governments. That same year, a tree fell on power lines outside Cleveland, resulting in a blackout for much of the Northeast. Doomsday can be understated.

“But I’m not here to predict doomsday; I’m here for sanity,” Dr. Shapiro said. “When we’ve gained what we’ve gained, we should fight to keep it.

“And, worst-case scenario, if it’s all for nothing, we’ll have a nice museum.”
The Gate Builders
02-08-2006, 01:01
Tools.
Eutrusca
02-08-2006, 01:03
Tools.
"Tools?" Uh ... shouldn't there be more? :confused:
The Gate Builders
02-08-2006, 01:04
Everyone knows that when the end comes, God will eat the moon. No more is required.
Neo Kervoskia
02-08-2006, 01:05
Survival of the human race? Not while I'm still alive!
Eutrusca
02-08-2006, 01:08
Survival of the human race? Not while I'm still alive!
Heh! Something not quite right about this picture, but I can't be arsed to find out. ;)
Markreich
02-08-2006, 01:16
"There will be no nuclear war. There is too much real estate involved."
- Frank Zappa
Potarius
02-08-2006, 01:20
Everyone knows that when the end comes, God will eat the moon. No more is required.

My god. That was perfect.
Eutrusca
02-08-2006, 01:24
My god. That was perfect.
Please don't encourage him. :rolleyes:
Vetalia
02-08-2006, 01:25
Everyone knows that when the end comes, God will eat the moon. No more is required.

Not if Artemis has anything to say about it...
The Gate Builders
02-08-2006, 01:31
Please don't encourage him. :rolleyes:

Your powers are weak, old man.
Iztatepopotla
02-08-2006, 01:33
We should start thinking about moving to other universe, in case something happens to this one.
The Gate Builders
02-08-2006, 01:35
We should start thinking about moving to other universe, in case something happens to this one.

No. We need to colonise TWO universes, to maximise our chances.
Sel Appa
02-08-2006, 01:37
I don't think the world could ever be fully destroyed by humans. You can't nuke every bit of land, even with every nuclear weapon made.
The Gate Builders
02-08-2006, 01:40
I don't think the world could ever be fully destroyed by humans. You can't nuke every bit of land, even with every nuclear weapon made.

We can however raise the temperature until shit starts happening... Which we are in the process of doing.
Markreich
02-08-2006, 01:40
No. We need to colonise TWO universes, to maximise our chances.

Are you kidding? We can't even get two political parties to work together!
How are we going to keep an Intergalactic Federation working?!?

Oh, wait...
http://www.blakes-7.co.uk/gadgets/fedpics/man3.JPG
The Gate Builders
02-08-2006, 01:42
Uh-oh, Blake's Seven.
Lunatic Goofballs
02-08-2006, 01:55
Hmm...

*rubs chin thoughtfully* Suppose someone were to secretly replace the stored human DNA samples with a... wackier strain.

:D
The Gate Builders
02-08-2006, 01:56
NO. JUST NO.

There's no way you're repopulating post-apocalyptic mankind. >: |
Markreich
02-08-2006, 01:57
Hmm...

*rubs chin thoughtfully* Suppose someone were to secretly replace the stored human DNA samples with a... wackier strain.

:D

Or secretly replace it with... NEW FOLGERS CRYSTALS!

Imagine! People walking around with their OWN rich coffee aroma!!
Lunatic Goofballs
02-08-2006, 01:58
Or secretly replace it with... NEW FOLGERS CRYSTALS!

Imagine! People walking around with their OWN rich coffee aroma!!

:eek: GENIUS! :)
Call to power
02-08-2006, 01:59
can't we just send our DNA and technology into deep space and let some Aliens deal with all the survival problems what happens is they decide to recreate us for study and such we kill the aliens and the cycle repeats itself

Survival made lazy (now I just need 5 minuets alone, a test tube and a rocket)
Vetalia
02-08-2006, 02:02
Or secretly replace it with... NEW FOLGERS CRYSTALS! Imagine! People walking around with their OWN rich coffee aroma!!

At least they didn't replace them with Sanka...that stuff is hell on Earth.
Markreich
02-08-2006, 02:08
At least they didn't replace them with Sanka...that stuff is hell on Earth.

Given the state of the world today... are we sure that it didn't happen that way? ;)

(PS: Imagine my surprise when the hotel I stayed at in London (some 3 star in Pimlico) was serving ONLY Sanka. :eek: )
WDGann
02-08-2006, 02:53
Everyone knows that the real moon was blasted out of orbit in 1999 during an accident at the radioactive waste storage dump up there.

The so-called 'moon' that people look at now is just a mock up put into space by the UN to cover up that the real moon is long gone.

This is, of course, why we have global warming.
Zogia
02-08-2006, 03:04
Everyone knows that the real moon was blasted out of orbit in 1999 during an accident at the radioactive waste storage dump up there.

The so-called 'moon' that people look at now is just a mock up put into space by the UN to cover up that the real moon is long gone.

This is, of course, why we have global warming.

:p Funny.
DesignatedMarksman
02-08-2006, 04:52
Put me in storage and wake me up when I'm needed.

Small chance of success?

Almost certain death?

Count me in.

I hear crio-freeze is cold....
Bumboat
02-08-2006, 04:54
i'm in favor of it. As long as its privately funded.:cool:
Lunatic Goofballs
02-08-2006, 04:54
Everyone knows that the real moon was blasted out of orbit in 1999 during an accident at the radioactive waste storage dump up there.

The so-called 'moon' that people look at now is just a mock up put into space by the UN to cover up that the real moon is long gone.

This is, of course, why we have global warming.

Great TV SHow! :)
Lunatic Goofballs
02-08-2006, 04:55
Put me in storage and wake me up when I'm needed.

Small chance of success?

Almost certain death?

Count me in.

I hear crio-freeze is cold....

'Needed'? :p
Bumboat
02-08-2006, 05:35
'Needed'? :p
Maybe he meant "Kneaded"?
He'll wake when someone kneads him like dough. :D
The Black Forrest
02-08-2006, 05:39
Everyone knows that when the end comes, God will eat the moon. No more is required.

But what if he is Lactose intolerant?
WDGann
02-08-2006, 05:47
But what if he is Lactose intolerant?

's okay. The moon is a hard cheese.