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Well Fidel Castro has temporarily given power to his younger brother to govern Cuba while he goes into hospital due to intestinal problems. Would this bring any change to Cuban policy. I mean Fidel Castro is a pretty powerful person, being able to hold of the USA and being a pain to them ever since.

Well Fidel Castro has temporarily given power to his younger brother to govern Cuba while he goes into hospital due to intestinal problems. Would this bring any change to Cuban policy. I mean Fidel Castro is a pretty powerful person, being able to hold of the USA and being a pain to them ever since.
His island is simply not worth the effort it would take to effect a regime change. It's got nothing but tobacco and rum, which we can get elsewhere.

Crap! I was just going to post a thread about this

It's summer, and we're running out of ice.

Cuban revolution!!11

His island is simply not worth the effort it would take to effect a regime change. It's got nothing but tobacco and rum, which we can get elsewhere.
Plus they held you off at Bay of Pigs and then got the Soviets to back them thus making it a lot riskier to try to effect regime change. The US would have changed its policy against Cuba (ie. making it more open and rational) if it wasn't for the exiles in Miami.

Plus they held you off at Bay of Pigs and then got the Soviets to back them thus making it a lot riskier to try to effect regime change. The US would have changed its policy against Cuba (ie. making it more open and rational) if it wasn't for the exiles in Miami.
Ah, los gusanos...it's amazing how much power they've accrued in the US...I wonder...would they lose that power once Castro dies? Maybe they are their own worst enemy...

I mean Fidel Castro is a pretty powerful person, being able to hold of the USA and being a pain to them ever since.
In one sense only - he is an example of successful resistance.

People hate that.

The details of Cuban politics are not actually relevant. It is the fact of its continuing survival of a 40-year blockade that drives the dislike.

When Fidel Castro finally dies, which will probably be soon, Cuba will crumble and be plundered of its meagre wealth by opportunistic insiders and their expatriate associates, as was the case in Russia. And then the new-found "freedom" will be seen my the disillusioned majority for what it is - the acquisition of an abstract ideal in exchange for a descent into greater poverty and social chaos.

As in Russia, so too in Cuba.

Guess what, casting a vote every four years, on it own does not feed you.

Plus they held you off at Bay of Pigs and then got the Soviets to back them thus making it a lot riskier to try to effect regime change. The US would have changed its policy against Cuba (ie. making it more open and rational) if it wasn't for the exiles in Miami.
Yeah, but the Soviet Union is no more, and the Bay of Pigs wasn't a US military invasion, but an invasion by Cuban expats trained and equipped by the USA.

Once Fidel dies, I think I'll be happy to congratulate Cuba on becoming the worlds second "Communist Monarchy." Gotta love it.

Yeah, but the Soviet Union is no more, and the Bay of Pigs wasn't a US military invasion, but an invasion by Cuban expats trained and equipped by the USA.
Maybe not officially, but they were trained, equipped, funded, supported by US "volunteers", and directed from Washington. For all intents and purposes it was a US military invasion.

Once Fidel dies, I think I'll be happy to congratulate Cuba on becoming the worlds second "Communist Monarchy." Gotta love it.
And then the US will start funding Cuba despite changing for the worse after Castro's death.

So is this actually anything life threatening? I haven't even heard any rumours to that regard yet...

So is this actually anything life threatening? I haven't even heard any rumours to that regard yet...
If he actually goes into an operating theatre, at the age of 79, yeah, it is.

I'd much like for there to be a Democratic Cuba after Casto dies, but the problem is, the economy is in so much trouble, as has been said before, it'll probably turn out like Russia. Yeah, Russia has a "democracy", but it has quite a few autocratic tendencies as well.

His island is simply not worth the effort it would take to effect a regime change. It's got nothing but tobacco and rum, which we can get elsewhere.
But their tobacco and rum is soooo good.

So is this actually anything life threatening? I haven't even heard any rumours to that regard yet...

I heard(at first anyway) that he was already dead, time will tell eh?

Well Fidel Castro has temporarily given power to his younger brother to govern Cuba while he goes into hospital due to intestinal problems. Would this bring any change to Cuban policy. I mean Fidel Castro is a pretty powerful person, being able to hold of the USA and being a pain to them ever since.

I wish I were in Miami right now so I could party with my Cuban brothers and sisters when Fidel's 47-year reign of terror comes to an end and he's dead, buried and burning in hell. Hopefully he's suffering in agony right now, so he gets a preview of what's in store for him.

Guess I'll have to settle for eating a Cuban sandwich and downing a daiquiri in celebration.

CUBA LIBRE!

Yeah, totally ignore the fact that he has managed to create a system whereby all Cubans have the necessities of life, unlike any other nation in Latin America. You see, because the Miami exiles say so, he must be all evil.

Yeah, totally ignore the fact that he has managed to create a system whereby all Cubans have the necessities of life, unlike any other nation in Latin America. You see, because the Miami exiles say so, he must be all evil.

So, "all" Cubans have the "necessities of life"? Really?

So, you're fine with selling your birthright for a mess of pottage?

So, living in a free country isn't a "necessity of life"?

So, how much MORE than "the necessities" would the Cuban people have if they'd had the opportunities a free country offers?

And he's not evil because "the Miami exiles say so," he's evil because he's a communist tyrant. The Miami exiles say so BECAUSE he's evil.

BTW: Costa Rica's doing pretty well last time I checked. So much for your "no other nation in Latin America" argument.

So, how much MORE than "the necessities" would the Cuban people have if they'd had the opportunities a free country offers?
Know anything about Russia?

If anything, fewer.

Tyranny is no more an impediment to life than freedom. The problem is the transition from either one to the other.