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EU calls for cessation of hostilities

Alleghany County
01-08-2006, 16:36
This just crossed the news wire:

The EU Foriegn Ministers have just passed a resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah.

All I can say is, yea right. I do not believe that this is going to happen any time soon.
Isiseye
01-08-2006, 16:37
Finally! I have to say that the Irish Foregin Minster was one of the initiators of this. And it took him quite a while but but better late than never.


Whose up for invading Israel???????
BogMarsh
01-08-2006, 16:38
This just crossed the news wire:

The EU Foriegn Ministers have just passed a resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah.

All I can say is, yea right. I do not believe that this is going to happen any time soon.


Gross. Much more of this bulldust, and I shall be forced to switch allegiance to Tony Blair.
The Gate Builders
01-08-2006, 16:38
All it does is show how much of a bunch of jackasses Israel and Hezbollah both are.
Greater Alemannia
01-08-2006, 16:38
The EU has as much charisma as a box of hamsters. Cute as it may be, it's never taken seriously.
Isiseye
01-08-2006, 16:41
The EU has as much charisma as a box of hamsters. Cute as it may be, it's never taken seriously.


One day soon....
Actually in talk of putting a peacekeeping force into Lebanon many are saying the UN shouldn't lead it but NATO or (the hamsters in helmets!) the EU!
Alleghany County
01-08-2006, 16:47
Finally! I have to say that the Irish Foregin Minster was one of the initiators of this. And it took him quite a while but but better late than never.


Whose up for invading Israel???????

Israel is not going to be invaded Isiseye.

And according to what I am hearing, the multinational force is going to be made up of primarily europeans. Hopefully they will have the authority to do what needs to be done to end the attacks gainst Israel.
Alleghany County
01-08-2006, 16:49
One day soon....
Actually in talk of putting a peacekeeping force into Lebanon many are saying the UN shouldn't lead it but NATO or (the hamsters in helmets!) the EU!

It should be NATO as most of the EU nations are in NATO.
Pure Metal
01-08-2006, 16:51
This just crossed the news wire:

The EU Foriegn Ministers have just passed a resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah.

All I can say is, yea right. I do not believe that this is going to happen any time soon.
if america keeps shoving support, money and weapons into the hands of the isreailis, it ain't going to happen...


we actually scared ourselves talking about this round the dinner table the other day... it ended up with the EU having to block US imports and siding with china to squeeze the american economy and stop the nonsense... kinda like either a new cold war between the US and EU, or the start of world war three... :-S
Deep Kimchi
01-08-2006, 16:52
In other news, the EU calls for an early end to the farging hot summer weather...
Alleghany County
01-08-2006, 16:53
if america keeps shoving support, money and weapons into the hands of the isreailis, it ain't going to happen...

Which can be countered with: If Iran and Syria stop shoving support, money and weapons into the hands of Hezbollah, it is not going to happen.

we actually scared ourselves talking about this round the dinner table the other day... it ended up with the EU having to block US imports and siding with china to squeeze the american economy and stop the nonsense... kinda like either a new cold war between the US and EU, or the start of world war three... :-S

Far fetched to say the least.
Cyber Perverts
01-08-2006, 16:55
This just crossed the news wire:

The EU Foriegn Ministers have just passed a resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah.

All I can say is, yea right. I do not believe that this is going to happen any time soon.
Oh...

Ok.

*everyone packs up their guns and goes home*
:rolleyes:
Non Aligned States
01-08-2006, 16:59
Hopefully they will have the authority to do what needs to be done to end the attacks gainst Israel.

Uh huh, and even if a force somehow does manage to form itself and enforce the border, what are the odds that the IDF will keep its proud tradition of bombing uninvolved people and 'accidently' land a couple of bombs on the peacekeeping force? I can see it now.

Peacekeeper: We have some people in custody caught trying to cross the border.

IDF: OMG! Hezbollah! *bombs peacekeeper*

Peacekeeper: You crazy lunatic! We had them in jail.

IDF: Wah! Wah! Wah! You terrorist loving, jew hating, nazi wannabe anti-semites!
Alleghany County
01-08-2006, 17:02
Uh huh, and even if a force somehow does manage to form itself and enforce the border, what are the odds that the IDF will keep its proud tradition of bombing uninvolved people and 'accidently' land a couple of bombs on the peacekeeping force?

All Israel wants is their border secured and Hezbollah either destroyed or disarmed and their soldiers returned.

If this multinational force has the authority to go after the terrorists along the border, Israel will not do anything. I do believe that.
Non Aligned States
01-08-2006, 17:04
All Israel wants is their border secured and Hezbollah either destroyed or disarmed and their soldiers returned.

If this multinational force has the authority to go after the terrorists along the border, Israel will not do anything. I do believe that.

So if this multinational force just enforced the border, meaning that they don't do things like bomb Lebanon and other shit like that, Israel won't?

Your faith in them is touching.
Psychotic Mongooses
01-08-2006, 17:05
All Israel wants is their border secured and Hezbollah either destroyed or disarmed and their soldiers returned.

So, not much then. :D
Alleghany County
01-08-2006, 17:07
So if this multinational force just enforced the border, meaning that they don't do things like bomb Lebanon and other shit like that, Israel won't?

Your faith in them is touching.

Israel will not do nothing if their border is secured. They even said they would turn over the whole area to the Peacekeepers. If the international force does not have the authority to go after Hezbollah, then yea, Israel will probably do something if the attacks continue and the peacekeepers do nothing.
The Gate Builders
01-08-2006, 17:07
How Kind! Israel is so cool to turn over Lebanon's land to the peacekeepers.
Romanar
01-08-2006, 17:09
I've heard the EU means business this time. They have not one, but two strongly worded letters written. One for Israel and one for Hezballah.
Deep Kimchi
01-08-2006, 17:09
How Kind! Israel is so cool to turn over Lebanon's land to the peacekeepers.
Considering that Lebanon had turned over its land to an armed Hezbollah in violation of UN resolutions, it's not a bad thing.

At least one UN resolution is going to be enforced.
Pure Metal
01-08-2006, 17:09
Which can be countered with: If Iran and Syria stop shoving support, money and weapons into the hands of Hezbollah, it is not going to happen.

sure. but that doesn't take blame away from america, the self-professed "world's police force"

Far fetched to say the least.
*shrugs*
there are those in power in america who believe nuclear armegeddon is the path to the second coming of jesus. there was a report about it on the BBC the other day, and it scared the shit out of me...
The Gate Builders
01-08-2006, 17:10
Considering that Lebanon had turned over its land to an armed Hezbollah in violation of UN resolutions, it's not a bad thing.

At least one UN resolution is going to be enforced.

Pfft, one that Israel likes. Whenever they're remotely critical they're antisemitic and evil.
Isiseye
01-08-2006, 17:11
I've heard the EU means business this time. They have not one, but two strongly worded letters written. One for Israel and one for Hezballah.


LOL! What we need is Team America to solve this issue.
No one else can help us now.
Psychotic Mongooses
01-08-2006, 17:14
I've heard the EU means business this time. They have not one, but two strongly worded letters written. One for Israel and one for Hezballah.
No. Thats the UN's style.

The EU would just stop trading with them.

Not powerful enough yet for it to have an effect, but in a few years I think that sort of threat from the EU could actually be a potent one.
Deep Kimchi
01-08-2006, 17:16
*shrugs*
there are those in power in america who believe nuclear armegeddon is the path to the second coming of jesus. there was a report about it on the BBC the other day, and it scared the shit out of me...

Makes you wonder about the Anglican who came up with all of that - a man named Darby, whose idea of dispensationalism drives ALL Christian apocalyptic thought in the US.

Wonderful ideas from a British man...:eek:
Non Aligned States
01-08-2006, 17:20
Israel will not do nothing if their border is secured. They even said they would turn over the whole area to the Peacekeepers. If the international force does not have the authority to go after Hezbollah, then yea, Israel will probably do something if the attacks continue and the peacekeepers do nothing.

Here is the problem. Hezbollah fires rockets at Israel, Israel responds by lots of bombings, to no real effect. The peacekeeping force sure as heck isn't going to do it the Israeli way and that will probably be picked up by the IDF as a sign of inaction on the peacekeepers side.

What happens after that is that Israel either bombs Lebanon again or bombs peacekeeper positions in an 'accident' as a means of telling them to go away and let them do what they want.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The only real way of removing Hezbollah as a fighting entity is to get the cooperation of the Lebanese government as well as provide it with the muscle needed to actually suppress the Hezbollah, all the while allowing for counter-propoganda/reconstruction efforts to reduce the number of recruits it can get.

So far, none of the solutions in use or presented by the powers that be even consider this avenue.
Admiral Canaris
01-08-2006, 17:24
I've heard the EU means business this time. They have not one, but two strongly worded letters written. One for Israel and one for Hezballah.
And I heard some memberstates are even taking action. Italy is starting to cut back on it's pasta exports and Austria has stopped supplying them with Tirolian toothpicks.
Dhakaan Goblins
01-08-2006, 17:30
Finally! I have to say that the Irish Foregin Minster was one of the initiators of this. And it took him quite a while but but better late than never.


Whose up for invading Israel???????
Excuse me, I have to ROFL.
Seriously, Im sure France is going to step up to bat and invade Israel. That would be a funny war there. It would be like French Indochina all over again, only more so, and with suicide bombers.
The only people in the EU who have both the military strength and the power projecting ability to back it up are, IMO, the British, and they dont seem keen to get the US angry.
Of course, I may have to eat my own words when the fearsome French-Spanish-Hungarian coalition appears on the horizon.
Psychotic Mongooses
01-08-2006, 17:36
Excuse me, I have to ROFL.
Seriously, Im sure France is going to step up to bat and invade Israel. That would be a funny war there. It would be like French Indochina all over again, only more so, and with suicide bombers.
The only people in the EU who have both the military strength and the power projecting ability to back it up are, IMO, the British, and they dont seem keen to get the US angry.
Of course, I may have to eat my own words when the fearsome French-Spanish-Hungarian coalition appears on the horizon.
Hungary isn't in the EU.

The EU's power doesn't lie in military means, but economic- housing 4 of the G8 members.
Admiral Canaris
01-08-2006, 17:42
Hungary isn't in the EU.
Yes it is.
Psychotic Mongooses
01-08-2006, 17:45
Yes it is.
I'm not sure as part of the Rapid Reaction Force...hence the 'French-Spanish-Hungarian coalition'.

Will double check.
(Should have clarified that)

Edit: I can only see Hungary as being part of 'plans' for a 'Italy Hungary Slovenia' Battle Group but nothing concrete on the RRF. Meh.
OcceanDrive
01-08-2006, 17:50
Excuse me, I have to ROFL.
Seriously, Im sure France is going to step up to bat and invade Israel. That would be a funny war there.

The only people in the EU who have both the military strength and the power projecting ability to back it up are, IMO, the British.the way I see it.. the UK Military is not more powerfull than the French one.
Pure Metal
01-08-2006, 18:06
Makes you wonder about the Anglican who came up with all of that - a man named Darby, whose idea of dispensationalism drives ALL Christian apocalyptic thought in the US.

Wonderful ideas from a British man...:eek:
that may be, but i don't see the Anglican church influencing british governmental foreign policy...


the way I see it.. the UK Military is not more powerfull than the French one.
i don't think there's that much in it, no.


time for that EDF to come into formation i think
I H8t you all
01-08-2006, 19:54
It should be NATO as most of the EU nations are in NATO.

RIGHT..Send the useless blue helmeted target some place new....There track recored as peace keepers is just so good.

Fact is unless they are allowed to enforce the madate with force and reasonable rules of engagement they will be about as usefull in the area as truck loads of sand
I H8t you all
01-08-2006, 19:56
I've heard the EU means business this time. They have not one, but two strongly worded letters written. One for Israel and one for Hezballah.


Yup thayts the ticket send them a "strongly worded letter"..Bet they will get a real laugh at that one...Like anyone listend to the EU anyway.:D
Deep Kimchi
01-08-2006, 19:59
RIGHT..Send the useless blue helmeted target some place new....There track recored as peace keepers is just so good.

Fact is unless they are allowed to enforce the madate with force and reasonable rules of engagement they will be about as usefull in the area as truck loads of sand

Actually worse.

Sand can't get killed.
I H8t you all
01-08-2006, 20:10
Actually worse.

Sand can't get killed.

LMFAO.......That is the best come back I have seen in years..Are you by chance a stand up commic???? I am still laughing.
Dhakaan Goblins
02-08-2006, 02:21
the way I see it.. the UK Military is not more powerfull than the French one.
That is up to debate, however, I personally dont beleive the French have:
a. The ability to project that military power
or
b. The will to fight a nation like Israel.

You think Muslims are a problem? Just wait until you get angry Jews. Im sure somebody will be clever and make a joke about the French economy collapsing.