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They are I am sure..

and notice I said Giving (as in payed-by-sender) not selling.

and No I do not have any proof..
But they are getting help.. money and Weapons. Including the now-famous Rockets.

oh and BTW.. the Israel army is getting planeloads of payed-by-sender Weapons too.. from one country.

guess wich Country is that?

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Hint:

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US arms flight diverted from Scotland after cabinet protest
Mon Jul 31, 7:12 PM ET

LONDON (AFP) - Two US cargo planes believed to be carrying bombs bound for Israel were kept from stopping over in Scotland because of protests in the British cabinet, the BBC said.

According to the BBC, the Scottish Secretary Douglas Alexander told Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett in a telephone conversation that he did not want a political fall-out from the cargo planes going through Scotland.
...
A reporter for the broadcaster also said unidentified sources suggested that at least six planes carrying material for the Israeli war effort went through Britain over the weekend.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060731/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictus

Weapons from the US sent through UK airports without permission.

DUBYAH: :upyours:

*snip*


Wow....you just can't stop your anti-US/anti-Israel shite, can you?

Weapons from the US sent through UK airports without permission.

DUBYAH: :upyours:I think the 2 planes were redirected to a US airforce base in england.

I wonder which country that would be????? Hmmm ( thinks hard)
Green land Yes? Those penguians are getting bored and are threatening world domination.

On a serious note enough of this already. If Syria did this to Israel we'd never here the end of it.

Weapons from the US sent through UK airports without permission.

DUBYAH: :upyours:


Hey there, clueless wonder! US arms sales to Israel have been going on for decades. Keep blaming Bush for a long-standing US policy. It makes you look really smart.

# Iranians/Syrians/Saudis/Quatar giving shitloads of Weapons to Hezbollah..

Okay - now back to business.

How to get that danged Hezbollah out of existence.

I mean, we could nuke 'em, - but does anyone have less violent means to rid our beloved planet of those obnoxious little troublemakers who wont eat bacon butties?

Wow....you just can't stop your anti-US/anti-Israel shite, can you?I will stop when the killing stops.

Wow....you just can't stop your anti-US/anti-Israel shite, can you?

No, he can't.

Interestingly, his NS name is the name of a famous road in a famous Jewish neighborhood in South Beach, Florida.

Something tells me he hates rich Jews, so he picked the name on purpose.

Hey there, clueless wonder! US arms sales to Israel have been going on for decades. Keep blaming Bush for a long-standing US policy. It makes you look really smart.

It would be nice if he asked before he sent weapons to a conflict zone through our airports.

Standard support for helping Israel kill civilians: ZOMG HEZBOLLAH KILL ISRALYS DETH RO RAGHED ROFL

No, he can't.

Interestingly, his NS name is the name of a famous road in a famous Jewish neighborhood in South Beach, Florida.

Something tells me he hates rich Jews, so he picked the name on purpose.

Wouldn't surprise me. Damn trolls.

It would be nice if he asked before he sent weapons to a conflict zone through our airports.

Standard support for helping Israel kill civilians: ZOMG HEZBOLLAH KILL ISRALYS DETH RO RAGHED ROFL


And looking more intelligent with each post... :rolleyes:

It would be nice if he asked before he sent weapons to a conflict zone through our airports.

Did it ever occur to you that a deal was made long before Bush came to office?

No, he can't.

Interestingly, his NS name is the name of a famous road in a famous Jewish neighborhood in South Beach, Florida.

Something tells me he hates rich Jews, so he picked the name on purpose.

Wow. You learn something every day!

And yeah, enough with the Israel/Lebanon threads. I think we just need one thread for both sides to flame/troll/bash each other on, not a new one every five minutes...

Did it ever occur to you that a deal was made long before Bush came to office?

No, I am merely an ill-educated pawn of the evil palestinian/Hezbollah conspiracy.

Hey there, clueless wonder! US arms sales to Israel have been going on for decades. Keep blaming Bush for a long-standing US policy. It makes you look really smart.giving cluster bombs is already morally-wrong.. (A lot of Coutries do it not just the US).

But.. giving Planeloads of Weapons to Israel.. while Israel is invading Lebanon.. is evil.. its like adding fuel to the middle-east fire.

only the US is doing it..

and It opens the door for other countries.. to give free weapons to Hezbollah (more fuel to the fire)

No, I am merely an ill-educated pawn of the evil palestinian/Hezbollah conspiracy.

Can the sarcasm and answer my question politely please.

I will stop when the killing stops.

Then I suggest settling in for the long haul. Israel could start eating babies on live TV and the US would still back them because that's the land of Jesus.

And people say there are no religious wars anymore.

Then I suggest settling in for the long haul. Israel could start eating babies on live TV and the US would still back them because that's the land of Jesus.

And people say there are no religious wars anymore.

Er, do you really believe that religion causes those wars?
*maximum scepticism*

Did it ever occur to you that a deal was made long before Bush came to office?

No. Either Bush or Clinton, depending on who you ask, are responsible for everything that has happened in this country since WWII.

Er, do you really believe that religion causes those wars?
*maximum scepticism*

Meh ...why not? It's as good an excuse as any.

giving cluster bombs is already morally-wrong.. (A lot of Coutries do it not just the US).

But.. giving Planeloads of Weapons to Israel.. while Israel is invading Lebanon.. is evil.. its like adding fuel to the middle-east fire.

only the US is doing it..

and It opens the door for other countries.. to give free weapons to Hezbollah (more fuel to the fire)


The weapons from the US were already contracted for, built, and paid for. They aren't being given free of charge, nor are they being given under unusual circumstances.

It's called "just in time" delivery. A modern industrial concept that might go over your head.

Meanwhile, Hezbollah doesn't have to pay a penny for its weapons.

Of course, it's going to be really hard to deliver crates of rockets to Southern Lebanon right now, considering that no air or sea traffic is really going in or out, and the IAF is bombing every vehicle on the road to Damascus.

giving cluster bombs is already morally-wrong.. (A lot of Coutries do it not just the US).

But.. giving Planeloads of Weapons to Israel.. while Israel is invading Lebanon.. is evil.. its like adding fuel to the middle-east fire.

only the US is doing it..

and It opens the door for other countries.. to give free weapons to Hezbollah (more fuel to the fire)

The only ones who are really supplying Hezbollah is Syria and Iran. I really am getting tired of this type of debate. They are doing it so it is ok for others to arm the otherside dispite the fact that the otherside is a terror organization.

Did it ever occur to you that a deal was made long before Bush came to office?

Yeah. I forgot Clinton looked into his crystal ball, saw all this coming, and got permission from Major to use our airports in 10 years' time.

Even Bush has admitted (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/5226910.stm) that he should have asked permission to use our bases.

US President George W Bush has apologised to Tony Blair over the previous use of Prestwick Airport to refuel planes carrying bombs to Israel.

The prime minister's spokesman said Mr Bush gave a "one-line" apology for the fact proper procedures had not been followed.

Some air traffic controllers at Prestwick, near Glasgow, have raised concerns about handling flights carrying bombs.

burn

Then I suggest settling in for the long haul.all my a-zers + Firewall are up. Reinforcement Hackers are standing by.
ISP bill is prepayed into 2007

No. Either Bush or Clinton, depending on who you ask, are responsible for everything that has happened in this country since WWII.

Or further back to Reagan, Carter, Ford, and Nixon.

No. Either Bush or Clinton, depending on who you ask, are responsible for everything that has happened in this country since WWII.

Yes! It's the fault of the Republican Party that the Civil War in the US was fought and the slaves were freed.... oh wait...

all my a-zers + Firewall are up. Reinforcement Hackers are standing by.
ISP bill is prepayed into 2007

But do you have snacks, man ... snacks!

Or further back to Reagan, Carter, Ford, and Nixon.

They were merely puppets of Bush or Clinton.

Yes! It's the fault of the Republican Party that the Civil War in the US was fought and the slaves were freed.... oh wait...

Damn those Republicans interfering with State's Rights! *shakes fist*

But do you have snacks, man ... snacks!Costco doritos + hot mexican salsa.. and beer.
400 rations.
wait.. that is all I have.:eek:

I am going to die.:D

Damn those Republicans interfering with State's Rights! *shakes fist*
Don't forget, the Republicans burned Atlanta.... now where are those drapes...

those obnoxious little troublemakers who wont eat bacon butties?

Think this applies equally to both sides.

Don't forget, the Republicans burned Atlanta.... now where are those drapes...

Hehe ... the Carol Burnett parody of that was priceless.

Costco doritos + hot mexican salsa.. and beer.
400 rations.
wait.. that is all I have.:eek:

I am going to die.:D

If I send you rations, will the UN sanction me?

If I send you rations, will the UN sanction me?if its not Kosher.. Bush may VETO your ass. :D

No, he'd just send guns to your enemies. o_o

if its not Kosher.. Bush may VETO your ass. :D

just a hint of Jew hating here...:rolleyes:

if its not Kosher.. Bush may VETO your ass. :D

Pork rinds it is, then!

Pork rinds it is, then!http://www.bboxbbs.ch/home/martin/Simpsons/charakteren/homer.jpg

just a hint of Jew hating here...:rolleyes:

OH NOES A JOKE! Call the anti-defamation league, POST HASTE!

OH NOES A JOKE! Call the anti-defamation league, POST HASTE!

Yes ... because everyone knows Jews have no sense of humor ... ;)

All's fair in love and war, I guess.

Oh, and drinking underage as well. All's fair in that too.

OH NOES A JOKE! Call the anti-defamation league, POST HASTE!:D

a la Mel Gibson.

First of all, this thread should not have been made without proof. It just shows that you swallow everything you are fed.

Next, let me just say: Oh no! Countries giving other countries weapons?! The US is the only country allowed to do that!

Yes, the US gives the bombs that Israel uses on children. Are we now fair game, or do they just bomb us because of our freedoms?

Forgive me if I'm rong, but you sound like a USer. If so, that's a laugh. You don't even have a constitutional right to vote.

Forgive me if I'm rong, but you sound like a USer. If so, that's a laugh. You don't even have a constitutional right to vote.

Your point? To my knowledge, that right isn't enshrined in many constitutions at all. None, in point of fact.

On the other hand, if you are in say, the UK, then you have the constitutional right to - absolutely nothing. Yet I see no one descrying this...

Forgive me if I'm rong, but you sound like a USer. If so, that's a laugh. You don't even have a constitutional right to vote.

The United States actually does have a constitutional right to vote. The Blacks got it with the 15th Amendment. The women got it with another as did eighteen year olds. Please tell me Gate Builders where the United States does not have a constitutional right to vote? Oh and let us not forget the amendment banning poll taxes.

Your point? To my knowledge, that right isn't enshrined in many constitutions at all. None, in point of fact.

On the other hand, if you are in say, the UK, then you have the constitutional right to - absolutely nothing. Yet I see no one descrying this...
Oh?


° i All citizens, and

ii such other persons in the State as may be determined by law,

without distinction of sex who have reached the age of eighteen years who are not disqualified by law and comply with the provisions of the law relating to the election of members of Dáil Éireann, shall have the right to vote at an election for members of Dáil Éireann

You don't even have a constitutional right to vote.


What?!

So Article II, Section 1 is all lies?

What?!

So Article II, Section 1 is all lies?

Keru, another non-American claims to be an authority on the US Constitution...

They are I am sure..

and notice I said Giving (as in payed-by-sender) not selling.

and No I do not have any proof..
But they are getting help.. money and Weapons. Including the now-famous Rockets.

oh and BTW.. the Israel army is getting planeloads of payed-by-sender Weapons too.. from one country.

guess wich Country is that?

.
Hint:

_____________________
US arms flight diverted from Scotland after cabinet protest
Mon Jul 31, 7:12 PM ET

LONDON (AFP) - Two US cargo planes believed to be carrying bombs bound for Israel were kept from stopping over in Scotland because of protests in the British cabinet, the BBC said.

According to the BBC, the Scottish Secretary Douglas Alexander told Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett in a telephone conversation that he did not want a political fall-out from the cargo planes going through Scotland.
...
A reporter for the broadcaster also said unidentified sources suggested that at least six planes carrying material for the Israeli war effort went through Britain over the weekend.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060731/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictus
So Bush has not only let it go ahead, but he has also sent AID to Israel!

Why did anyone decide to invest so much power in this guy?

Oh?

Thank you, PM. It's nice to learn there is indeed one.

Arnt the Saudis WITH America against Hezbollah????:confused: :confused:

Keru, another non-American claims to be an authority on the US Constitution...

Nice that we're always the center of attention.

What?!

So Article II, Section 1 is all lies?

It's a state right.

It's a state right.

Article II, Section 1 is about federal elections, not a State thing. Article IV talks about the States.

Educate thyself:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html

It's a state right.

No there is a Constitutional Right as I have pointed out to you as well as others.

All the more reason for the US to send a shiload more weapons to Isreal....More high tech weapons.....

Victory through unlimited fire power.:D

All the more reason for the US to send a shiload more weapons to Isreal....More high tech weapons.....

Victory through unlimited fire power.:D
is it really that hard to spell israel correctly? or do they spell it differently in other parts of the world?

It's a state right.
if you think it's a state right then you're a crack smoker.

If you don't wage war from civilian populated areas children wouldn't be bombed. If Isreal was in the child killing business there wouldn't be any left. Hezbollah has made civilians a sheild they die Isreal gets bad press Hezbollah keeps on killing. Only when every Hezbollah fighter is dead will the children be safe on BOTH sides of the Isreal/Lebanon border.


First of all, this thread should not have been made without proof. It just shows that you swallow everything you are fed.

Next, let me just say: Oh no! Countries giving other countries weapons?! The US is the only country allowed to do that!

Yes, the US gives the bombs that Israel uses on children. Are we now fair game, or do they just bomb us because of our freedoms?

WTF?


Amendment XXVI
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age or older, to vote, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state on account of age.


Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Are high or Euian?

Forgive me if I'm rong, but you sound like a USer. If so, that's a laugh. You don't even have a constitutional right to vote.

If a country gives or sells arms to another state fine, but the transfer of arms to a non state terrorist organisation is illegal.


First of all, this thread should not have been made without proof. It just shows that you swallow everything you are fed.

Next, let me just say: Oh no! Countries giving other countries weapons?! The US is the only country allowed to do that!

Yes, the US gives the bombs that Israel uses on children. Are we now fair game, or do they just bomb us because of our freedoms?

I will stop when the killing stops.


Maybe you should go over and have a little chit chat with Nasrallah and the rest of the nuts who wanna see the Jews pushed into the sea and off of Muslim land. Go and ask them when they plan on bringing an end to their killing which has been going on for decades. Then get back to me and the rest of the NSers.

Lebanon and eventually the palestinians need sophisticated defensive weapons to deter future israeli aggression and protect the lives and property of their citizens.

Lebanon and eventually the palestinians need sophisticated defensive weapons to deter future israeli aggression and protect the lives and property of their citizens.

Despite the fact that it was Hamas that started the Gaza thing after Israel pulled out of it? Despite the fact that it was Hezbollah that provoked Israel into responding? Israeli agression my foot. It is more self-defense than agression in this case.

Aren't all Israeli men conscripted into the army? That would mean that attacking civilian populations is just like attacking military targets right? :p

just kidding but I had to add fuel to the fire with this sillyness

Despite the fact that it was Hamas that started the Gaza thing after Israel pulled out of it? Despite the fact that it was Hezbollah that provoked Israel into responding? Israeli agression my foot. It is more self-defense than agression in this case.


The self defense of "you stole my car so i'm killing you, your family, your friends, people who live near you, people with similar names, your city's power plant, your airport, hundreds of civilians and children, &c &c &c &c &c."

Mass murder is the name for it, israel's words dont excuse its massacres.

Aren't all Israeli men conscripted into the army? That would mean that attacking civilian populations is just like attacking military targets right? :p

just kidding but I had to add fuel to the fire with this sillyness

Thank God I saw this last bit printed in white.

Lebanon as a legitimate state can purchase what ever arms they can afford to buy, and until the Plalestinian authory pulls it's collective head from its collective ass and stops sponsering terrorism and becomes the recognised state it should be no weapons should be sold to them.


Lebanon and eventually the palestinians need sophisticated defensive weapons to deter future israeli aggression and protect the lives and property of their citizens.

The self defense of "you stole my car so i'm killing you, your family, your friends, people who live near you, people with similar names, your city's power plant, your airport, hundreds of civilians and children, &c &c &c &c &c."

Mass murder is the name for it, israel's words dont excuse its massacres.

So what you are saying is that Israel should not have gone after Hezbollah?

Thank God I saw this last bit printed in white.


you shush! :D

So what you are saying is that Israel should not have gone after Hezbollah?
No, he's saying theirs is no longer a proportional response.

Say I squirt you with a water gun repeatedly, you don't swing a sledgehammer for me, do you?


Do you?! :eek: :D

So what you are saying is that Israel should not have gone after Hezbollah?

Read it again if thats what you think i'm saying.

Grow up

No, he's saying theirs is no longer a proportional response.

Say I squirt you with a water gun repeatedly, you don't swing a sledgehammer for me, do you?


Do you?! :eek: :D

I'd just shoot you back with a bigger watergun. Israel is clearly defending themselves and wants to see UN Resolution 1559 actually enforced. You remember that resolution that calls for the disarming of Hezbollah?

I have stated before that I do not agree with the type of response from Israel but that I do understand their response.

Read it again if thats what you think i'm saying.

Grow up

I am asking you a legitament question. I would like a response to it. Answering in this fashion only shows that you do not care to respond to the question. So please answer my question.

I'd just shoot you back with a bigger watergun. Israel is clearly defending themselves and wants to see UN Resolution 1559 actually enforced. You remember that resolution that calls for the disarming of Hezbollah?

I have stated before that I do not agree with the type of response from Israel but that I do understand their response.
Exactly. Proportionality is the major reason people are voicing their disquiet.

So if somebody blindly fired a rifle into your house from a neighbors house repetedly, some times killing family members, your responce would be? Ideally maybe you call the police ...but there are no police for this you would do what? Me, Id gather all my armed able bodied family members and go over and clean that house out and if it happened again I'd burn it to the ground. Most people would do likewise.


The self defense of "you stole my car so i'm killing you, your family, your friends, people who live near you, people with similar names, your city's power plant, your airport, hundreds of civilians and children, &c &c &c &c &c."

Mass murder is the name for it, israel's words dont excuse its massacres.

So if somebody blindly fired a rifle into your house from a neighbors house repetedly, some times killing family members, your responce would be? Ideally maybe you call the police ...but there are no police for this you would do what? Me, Id gather all my armed able bodied family members and go over and clean that house out and if it happened again I'd burn it to the ground. Most people would do likewise.
No, uncivilised people do that.

Exactly. Proportionality is the major reason people are voicing their disquiet.

So let me put the analogy on its head. Israel is constently being attacked by rockets of various sizes with various distances. Say a rocket is fired from Beirut and hits Haifa? What do you do? you bomb the area. You do have to remember that Hezbollah's HQ was in downtown Beirut. Weapons were getting smuggled in through ports and the airport. How do you put a stop to that? You bomb the ports and the airport. Then what do you do? You attack known rocket launch sites. It is here that civilian casualties will skyrocket because their launch sites are in and among civilians. Where they store rockets are in and around civilians so when you bomb those sites, there will be more civilian casualties.

So is the response proportionate or not? I am going to leave that one up to God to decide.

If Israel really wanted to believe in the UN, it should ask the US to stop vetoing UN resolutions (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html).

I am asking you a legitament question. I would like a response to it. Answering in this fashion only shows that you do not care to respond to the question. So please answer my question.


No you aren't.

Ignoring what I wrote and then implying I made some other, ridiculous statement is not a "legitament" question.

Well what would YOU do. Remember there are NO police.


No, uncivilised people do that.

No, he's saying theirs is no longer a proportional response.

Say I squirt you with a water gun repeatedly, you don't swing a sledgehammer for me, do you?


Do you?! :eek: :D


Hmmm...so i guess a proportional response by Israel would be to pack tiny ball bearings into shitty rockets with no guidance system and shoot them randomly in the direction of Lebanon, hitting population centers and maiming civilians with the metal ball bearings, not eliminating at all the threat of the rockets or the militia?

You don't use a damn proportional response when you wish to defeat your enemy. yes, Israel wishes to defeat it's enemy, Hizballah, not let them stick around to launch attacks on Israel for all eternity, and to do so they are going to use as much disproportionate force that it can until Hizballah is beaten into submission and unable to harm or injure Israeli citizens.

This war was forced upon Israel by Hizballah after it launched a cross border raid, kidnapping two soldiers and killing eight. This was not the first attack on Israel by Hizballah, it was the tip of the iceberg. Israel was no longer willing to let a terrorist militia be housed by its next door neighbor with a couple thousand rockets pointed in the directions of her population centers.

So is the response proportionate or not? I am going to leave that one up to God to decide.


Sorry Mullah Omar, but in reality we don't leave things up to "god to decide."

Well what would YOU do. Remember there are NO police.
Whatever my actions would be, I certainly wouldn't lower myself to a pre-Roman mentality.

No you aren't.

Ignoring what I wrote and then implying I made some other, ridiculous statement is not a "legitament" question.

No Sir/Ma'am, I did not ignore what you wrote. I saw what you wrote but now you are completely dodging my question and in a debate, he who dodges a question, loses the debate.

So if somebody blindly fired a rifle into your house from a neighbors house repetedly, some times killing family members, your responce would be? Ideally maybe you call the police ...but there are no police for this you would do what? Me, Id gather all my armed able bodied family members and go over and clean that house out and if it happened again I'd burn it to the ground. Most people would do likewise.
Move and create a made-for-tv-movie that they would sell to Sci-Fi or Lifetime.

That's dodging the question not actually answering it. :rolleyes:

Whatever my actions would be, I certainly wouldn't lower myself to a pre-Roman mentality.

Hmmm...so i guess a proportional response by Israel would be to pack tiny ball bearings into shitty rockets with no guidance system and shoot them randomly in the direction of Lebanon, hitting population centers and maiming civilians with the metal ball bearings, not eliminating at all the threat of the rockets or the militia?
Sure, if you want to equate an 'enlightened' democracy with a listed terrorist group. Personally, I wouldn't.


You don't use a damn proportional response when you wish to defeat your enemy. yes, Israel wishes to defeat it's enemy, Hizballah, not let them stick around to launch attacks on Israel for all eternity, and to do so they are going to use as much disproportionate force that it can until Hizballah is beaten into submission and unable to harm or injure Israeli citizens.
Got an idea when that will finish? *looks at watch* Because Friends is on in a few minutes.


This war was forced upon Israel by Hizballah after it launched a cross border raid, kidnapping two soldiers and killing eight. This was not the first attack on Israel by Hizballah, it was the tip of the iceberg. Israel was no longer willing to let a terrorist militia be housed by its next door neighbor with a couple thousand rockets pointed in the directions of her population centers.
Sooo... they responded by killing 10 times as many Lebanese civilians as Hezb'allah has killed Israeli civilians? That sounds like a workable policy alright.

That's dodging the question not actually answering it. :rolleyes:
How is that dodging the question?

I don't know what I'd do, but I can tell you whatever my actions would be, I certainly wouldn't lower myself to a pre-Roman mentality.

If you put in on Lifetime Valeria Bertallie would star...but that's not the point.


Move and create a made-for-tv-movie that they would sell to Sci-Fi or Lifetime.

again thats not an answer what EXACTLLY WOULD you do?How is that dodging the question?

I don't know what I'd do, but I can tell you whatever my actions would be, I certainly wouldn't lower myself to a pre-Roman mentality.

If you dont feed trolls they starve.

If Israel really wanted to believe in the UN, it should ask the US to stop vetoing UN resolutions (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html).

The same can be said about France,Russia and China

is it really that hard to spell israel correctly? or do they spell it differently in other parts of the world?

not really...just did not have my glasses...lost them...and so i mixed yp two letters.....LOl happens

To the OP
Arnt the Saudis WITH America against Hezbollah????:confused: :confused:my bet is :
most Saudis are with hezbollah..

the Dictatorship is with Bush.

If a country gives or sells arms to another state fine, but the transfer of arms to a non state terrorist organisation is illegal.who gets to say who is Terrorist.. and who is not?

You?

I will stop when the killing stops.

It won't ever stop.

Iran and Syria will NEVER stop aiding and abbetting terror through their proxy, Hezz.

Regime change, IDF style.

Is Hezbollah the legitimate government of Lebanon?


who gets to say who is Terrorist.. and who is not?

You?

Exactly. Proportionality is the major reason people are voicing their disquiet.
You only fight a war with proportionality if you want to lose. Have you ever heard of the Weinberger and Powell Doctrines? The first Gulf War proved that they work. That is how you fight a war. Hezbollah declared WAR on Israel so Israel can do whatever it damn well pleaces to Hezbollah.

who gets to say who is Terrorist.. and who is not?

You?

It's on the US and EU terrorist lists and many of its leaders are included in UN terrorist reports.

Are you now denying the UN issued a referendum that Hezbollah was to be disarmed and that Syria and Iran are in violation of that?

It's on the US and EU terrorist lists No.
.

Hezbollah is not on the EU list.

Hezbollah is not the EU list.
Doesn't change the fact that it is ILLEGAL for Hezbollah to carry arms.

I will stop when the killing stops.
Well fuck, I guess you're gonna be busy the rest of your life. Oh wait, that was just more bullshit, sorry didn't recognize it from a distance.

Well fuck, I guess you're gonna be busy the rest of your life.yes i am going to be busy the rest of my life...














but specially on friday nites :D :D :fluffle: :D

Doesn't change the fact that it is ILLEGAL for Hezbollah to carry arms.


It is also illegal to settle occupied territory, the israelis seem to think rules dont apply to this conflict :rolleyes:

It is also illegal to settle occupied territory, the israelis seem to think rules dont apply to this conflict :rolleyes:
That wouldn't be a problem had Arafat accepted the 2000 deal. He also would've gotten East Jerusalem.

You also fail to mention the pullout of Gaza along with the pullout of the West Bank, which was planned until Hamas was elected. It isn't Israel's fault that htey don't have a peace partner. It is the Palestinian's fault.

You lose

I mean, we could nuke 'em, - but does anyone have less violent means to rid our beloved planet of those obnoxious little troublemakers who wont eat bacon butties?
The IDF, maybe?

I will stop when the killing stops.
No, you're been spouting stuff like this for as long as I can remember. (I'm not as new as my join date says.)

Something tells me he hates rich Jews, so he picked the name on purpose.
I know a lot of people claim that critics of Israel are anti-Semitic, but OceanDrive is the only one that I think might actually be anti-Semitic.

its like adding fuel to the middle-east fire.

only the US is doing it..
No, you said yourself that Iranians/Syrians/Saudis/Quatar giving shitloads of Weapons to Hezbollah.

I do agree, however, that all sides should stop providing them with weapons. That would bring the conflict to a halt soon enough.

Then I suggest settling in for the long haul. Israel could start eating babies on live TV and the US would still back them because that's the land of Jesus.

And people say there are no religious wars anymore.
I don't think that the US backs Israel because it's the land of Jesus.

Meh ...why not? It's as good an excuse as any.
But, no government goes to war and throws away loads of money anymore because of religion. Why be motivated by that when there are many more rational, and profitable reasons?

just a hint of Jew hating here...:rolleyes:
That's rather... politically correct of you.

Oh?
*high five*

mhaith an fear!

The IDF, maybe?





SNIP


Oh yes. I believe it is being done that way now.

Splendid indeed! :D

Doesn't change the fact that it is ILLEGAL for Hezbollah to carry arms.I am sure Israel would prefer to figth against disarmed people.

I am sure Israel would prefer to figth against disarmed people.
If Hezbollah were disarmed, there wouldn't be a fight as Hezbollah wouldn't have invaded Israel. Can you be any more dense?

If Hezbollah were disarmed, there wouldn't be a fight as Hezbollah wouldn't have invaded Israel. Can you be any more dense?If Israel (iether side) were disarmed, there would not be a figth.. as Israel would not have Invaded Lebanon.

What is your point?
There is a WAR.. of course people are going to arm themselves..

you can always cry-foul and scream "its no fair.. only the Jews deserve weapons".. maybe the Lebanese resistance will take your word for it and drop their weapons :rolleyes:

If Israel (iether side were diarmed) were disarmed, there would not be a figth.. as Israel would not have Invaded Lebanon.

What is your point?
There is a WAR.. of course people are going to arm themselves..

you can always cry-foul and scream "its no fair.. only the Jews deserve weapons".. maybe the Lebanese resistance will take your word for it and drop their weapons :rolleyes:
There wouldn't be a fight because the Jews would be pushed into the sea. If you disarm the Arabs, there will be peace. Disarm the Jews, there will be a Holocaust.

The Hezbollah can't arm themselves because of 1559. The Lebanese army can be armed, but not Hezbollah.

I never said only the Jew can have weapons. I said TERRORISTS can't have weapons.

If Israel (iether side were diarmed) were disarmed, there would not be a figth.. as Israel would not have Invaded Lebanon.

You really can not come up with an original point can you? If Israel was disarmed, Israel will be destroyed.

What is your point?
There is a WAR.. of course people are going to arm themselves..

If 1559 was enforced, there would not have been a war.

If Israel (iether side were diarmed) were disarmed, there would not be a figth.. as Israel would not have Invaded Lebanon.

What is your point?
There is a WAR.. of course people are going to arm themselves..

you can always cry-foul and scream "its no fair.. only the Jews deserve weapons".. maybe the Lebanese resistance will take your word for it and drop their weapons :rolleyes:

You're right, it would be genocide as Hezbollah and Hamas follow thier mandates of destroying Isreal and following the advice of their leaders by killing every Jew they could.

Do you deny that? Of course you do.

You believe Hezbollah had a perfectly legitimate right to cross over into Isreal and take prisoners to use in violation of international law. You believe it is perfectly acceptable for countries to supply a non-recognized militia, that the UN has called for to be disarmed , which regularly uses these weapons directly against Isreali civilians.

But when the IDF fights back, well, that's bad. It's bad that Isreal refuses to release prisoners that have killed dozens of people and organize more murders. It's bad when Isreal refuses to give back territory that has been used as staging points for attacks and invasions multiple times.

But wait, it's been a few days. Time for you to take up the same tired arguements that have been debunked over and over.

Do you deny that? Of course you do.That is the advantage I have.. I dont even need to answer..

Its good to be me :D