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I mean for the US presidential elections. I would definitely take the time to drag my lazy ass out of bed to the nearest polling site if someone like or McCain himself were to run. Other than that, I just don't see the point.

I mean for the US presidential elections. I would definitely take the time to drag my lazy ass out of bed to the nearest polling site if someone like or McCain himself were to run. Other than that, I just don't see the point.
Yes!

I will finally be old enough to vote by the time the 08 elections roll around.

Go me!:)

Yes!

I will finally be old enough to vote by the time the 08 elections roll around.

Go me!:)
Vote for the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_National_Socialist_Green_Party)

Yes, I vote every election cycle. I'll be voting for Jeb. :)

Ya, I'll vote for sure, it just doesn't look too promising with all of the rumored candidates.

Vote for the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_National_Socialist_Green_Party)
Is that even possible?:confused:
*scratches head* lol.

Anyway, I'll be voting red, of course.

Republican, that is.

Unless the Dems do something suprising like grow a spine, and the Republicans fail to come up with someone good.

I'll vote for the same person I always vote for -- the one person I believe can do a better job than any of those yahoos running. I'm going to write myself in. :D

John Stewart *cough*

I will as always be voting issues not parties

Is that even possible?:confused:
*scratches head* lol.

Anyway, I'll be voting red, of course.

Republican, that is.

Unless the Dems do something suprising like grow a spine, and the Republicans fail to come up with someone good.
It must be possible, they do have a wiki page.

I mean for the US presidential elections. I would definitely take the time to drag my lazy ass out of bed to the nearest polling site if someone like or McCain himself were to run. Other than that, I just don't see the point.

I won't be old enough yet.

I will as always be voting issues not parties
I wish more people did the same.

I won't be old enough yet.
Pffft. Age doesn't mean anything. Heck, dead dogs vote in Chicago. Just point to an unsigned line on the page and say "I'm that person." Then have fun with teh democratic process.

Yeah, I'll vote. My big issue will be the economy and because I believe in the free-market it is more likely I will vote Republican. Unless they sell out too much to war-mongers and the religious right.

Just to spite you, I will not vote.

The Green Libertarian National Socialist party is a think-tank, and does not actually run candidates. Their aim is to accustom the public to their kooky, contradictory ideas.

And I will cry if I have to choose between John McCain and Hillary Clinton. I'll just put random letters in the write-in candidate box, because there'd be no one I could vote for that would satisfy me.

Ywaiouzxlfe Prewuiznmwq '08!

Just to spite you, I will not vote.

Thank you. This makes my vote count just a tiny bit more.

Absolutely... who in their right mind born in 1990 before November wouldn't?

That's going to be the best part (possibly one of the only good parts) of turning 18.

Absolutely... who in their right mind born in 1990 before November wouldn't?

That's going to be the best part (possibly one of the only good parts) of turning 18.

I'm probably gonna move to Canada.

Yes, I'll vote. I haven't missed an election yet and don't intend to. I even vote on the off-years. I'm that leet.

I don't miss elections either. Will definitely VOTE.

I :fluffle: democracy!

Yes!

I will finally be old enough to vote by the time the 08 elections roll around.

Go me!:)

me too, finally after all these years of hearing all about the elections I'll be able to vote for who I want to represent my country

I'm probably gonna move to Canada.


Me too. See you in Toronto.


Seriously, will I vote? Hmm... Giant Douche, or Turd Sandwich? Giant Douche, or Turd Sandwich... decisions, decisions...

me too, finally after all these years of hearing all about the elections I'll be able to vote for who I want to represent my country
It about time.

I'm not from the US. So no. I will not.

The Green Libertarian National Socialist party is a think-tank, and does not actually run candidates. Their aim is to accustom the public to their kooky, contradictory ideas.

And I will cry if I have to choose between John McCain and Hillary Clinton. I'll just put random letters in the write-in candidate box, because there'd be no one I could vote for that would satisfy me.

Ywaiouzxlfe Prewuiznmwq '08!

I like kooky, contradictory ideas. :)

If you can vote and you don't then you don't have any right to complain because you passed by a chance that so many gave their lives to protect, a chance that our Forefathers risked death to grant us, and a chance that not every nation in the world has.

It about time.

heck yes it is

I'll certainly vote, but I don't know who for. I've voted in every election since '01 (I was in basic training during the '00 election), so I don't intend to miss that one. I'm more concerned with the elections this fall than with the '08 elections right now, though.

It makes me sad that a lot of people only vote in Presidential elections, as if that were the only one that mattered.

I think every one should vote and it should be a holiday more people would vote if they didnt have to work. I also think you should get money at the polls if you vote just like 25 dollors that would be nice i think close to everyone would vote them.

many people just don't care or are too lazy to vote on these things "minor elections"
either that or some say they didn't know about them

some people already take off work to vote anyway, so why not?

I think every one should vote and it should be a holiday more people would vote if they didnt have to work.
It'd be better if Election Day was on the weekend. Or maybe even the entire weekend. I mean, honestly, what's sacred about the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?

I also think you should get money at the polls if you vote just like 25 dollors that would be nice i think close to everyone would vote them.
There are lots of problems with this one, but assuming it would work: It would work until some party in power says you don't get your money unless you vote for the party in power. ;)

I think every one should vote and it should be a holiday more people would vote if they didnt have to work. I also think you should get money at the polls if you vote just like 25 dollors that would be nice i think close to everyone would vote them.
I could see the holiday thing, however, giving $25 is unjustified. If a person does not want to vote we should not give them monetary incentives to just write whatever name on a paper. Voting should be a conscious act of knowledge and foresight, not something that people do just to get $25. Each idiot that votes weakens the strength of an intelligent well-thought out voter.

I'm not an american, so i can't vote then. so no.

Voting is bad. It allows politicians to claim that they have the tacit approval of the general public for their acts of wanton piracy. Also, they like to bang on about something called a 'mandate' so when they fuck up - as they do - they can pretend they had no choice and it is really the fault of the general public.

If there actually was a choice between candidates it would be a different matter, but as things stand at the moment the electoral process is like picking a card from a street magician. The only difference being that instead of always getting the ten of hearts (no matter how hard you try and pick something else), in this case, with voting, you always seem to get a steaming bowl of dogshit (no matter how hard you try and pick something else).

So I say don't vote. When eventually 99% of the population no-longer turns up at the ballot box, at the very least the gangsters in chief can no longer claim that they are doing "the people's" business. (Whatever that is). Plus no more of this silly mandate choice.

Also, by not voting you are in the best position to criticize the system. Not taking part means that you can point out to everyone else that the shit state of affairs is their fault for 'getting involved' and participating, where as you, on the other hand, knew it would be a cluster fuck from the begining and therefore washed your hands of it before the outset.

I really have never heard any compelling reason to vote at all. In a nation where the population is so vast, the outcome is the same regardless if I vote of not. My vote has a negligible statistical effect, and as such, I see no reason to vote.

I'm in that group that will finally be able to vote (woohoo!)

So yes, I will be voting. It's a drat that I missed my mayoral elections (I didn't fill out the registration card in time... meh, the guy I would have voted for won in a landslide anyway)

I'll most likely be voting republican because they generally make more sense to me than the dems, but we'll just have to see who's running.

I won't be - mainly because I'm not American, although I will finally be old enough to.

You people who say you aren't going to vote really annoy me. *Sorry, it had to be said.* You are the people who complain about the administration and about your leader, and then don't vote because there isn't a candidate you want to be President, and then moan about the new administration.
You have the power to choose who YOU want to be the leader of your country, and I think it is downright stupid not to use that power. Think of all the people living under dictatorial regimes who have no choice as to who their next Head of State or Government is. By not using your constitutional right to elect your President, you are not only not using one of the fundamental and most important rights that you can be given, but you are also spitting on those people who can't vote for whatever reason.
Even if you don't like either of the candidates, as citizens of the United States of America, you must have an idea as to who you would want to be your President for the next four, maybe eight years. They may not be the funniest or the most attractive, but you have to think about who will be strong enough as a leader to tackle any difficulty the country has, who will be able to run the country, make executive decisions when necessary, and act now and ask questions later.

You really should vote. In my opinion, people who do not vote do not have the right to moan or complain about the administration or the President, because they didn't contribute to his or her election, or to trying to elect a different person. Do you see where I'm coming from? It is only the people who contribute to the election who should be allowed to complain about the results, as they are the ones who have participated in the election.

You should all go out and vote in 2008, because having that right is something you probably don't understand the significance of. Universal suffrage is brilliant, and as citizens of the USA you have that inaliable and fundamental human right. Think of how it would be if that right was ever rescinded. (Before you go on, it's in the constitution and it can't be changed, blah blah blah, I know)

Go out and vote, you have the power to change your country.

I really have never heard any compelling reason to vote at all. In a nation where the population is so vast, the outcome is the same regardless if I vote of not. My vote has a negligible statistical effect, and as such, I see no reason to vote.

Maybe so, but you still should. Think of George W. Bush's election in 2000 (or was it 2001? I'm not sure, whenever it was). The votes between him and Al Gore were so close in the Electoral College that they had to be recounted again and again. You can make a difference, and you can make your voice be heard. To not want to stand up and be counted is something I don't understand. And, to entrust your fellow Americans to vote your preferred candidate into office is downright foolish.

Your vote may have negligible statistical effect, but don't you want to counted, to have your voice heard, to have your preferred candidate as President?

Don't take this the wrong way, but I see your excuse as just laziness. Sorry, it's the way I read it. Can't you do postal votes? We can - although the Westminster system is considerably different to the Congressional system, I know.

Just think about voting, you may regret not doing.

I hope you realize that "really close" is still more then a thousand vote difference.
I'd like them to rework the system into electoral districts(smaller then states). More bang for your vote there, at least.

I won't be - mainly because I'm not American, although I will finally be old enough to.

You people who say you aren't going to vote really annoy me. *Sorry, it had to be said.* You are the people who complain about the administration and about your leader, and then don't vote because there isn't a candidate you want to be President, and then moan about the new administration.
You have the power to choose who YOU want to be the leader of your country, and I think it is downright stupid not to use that power. Think of all the people living under dictatorial regimes who have no choice as to who their next Head of State or Government is. By not using your constitutional right to elect your President, you are not only not using one of the fundamental and most important rights that you can be given, but you are also spitting on those people who can't vote for whatever reason.
Even if you don't like either of the candidates, as citizens of the United States of America, you must have an idea as to who you would want to be your President for the next four, maybe eight years. They may not be the funniest or the most attractive, but you have to think about who will be strong enough as a leader to tackle any difficulty the country has, who will be able to run the country, make executive decisions when necessary, and act now and ask questions later.

You really should vote. In my opinion, people who do not vote do not have the right to moan or complain about the administration or the President, because they didn't contribute to his or her election, or to trying to elect a different person. Do you see where I'm coming from? It is only the people who contribute to the election who should be allowed to complain about the results, as they are the ones who have participated in the election.

You should all go out and vote in 2008, because having that right is something you probably don't understand the significance of. Universal suffrage is brilliant, and as citizens of the USA you have that inaliable and fundamental human right. Think of how it would be if that right was ever rescinded. (Before you go on, it's in the constitution and it can't be changed, blah blah blah, I know)

Go out and vote, you have the power to change your country.
Maybe. But if the other guy won, I know I'd bitch up and down about him as well, because they both blew. All it really comes down to is choosing between the least distateful candidate. According to your reasoning, would I have a right to complain about someone I voted FOR?

Sure suffrage is a great thing and all ... but what's that got to do with ME? My vote is utterly irrelevent. My vote will simply be tallied among four million other votes. The probability that the Oregon electorate will be won by a single vote is astronomically small. Likewise, the statistical impact of my vote will also have no effect; a single vote will not be enough to sway policymakers to support my views one iota.

I'll sure as hell be voting... because I'll be damned if another Republican steps into that office in my lifetime.




So pretty much I'm damned.

Maybe so, but you still should. Think of George W. Bush's election in 2000 (or was it 2001? I'm not sure, whenever it was). The votes between him and Al Gore were so close in the Electoral College that they had to be recounted again and again. You can make a difference, and you can make your voice be heard. To not want to stand up and be counted is something I don't understand. And, to entrust your fellow Americans to vote your preferred candidate into office is downright foolish.

Your vote may have negligible statistical effect, but don't you want to counted, to have your voice heard, to have your preferred candidate as President?

Don't take this the wrong way, but I see your excuse as just laziness. Sorry, it's the way I read it. Can't you do postal votes? We can - although the Westminster system is considerably different to the Congressional system, I know.

Just think about voting, you may regret not doing.
Seriously, "just for the hell of it" is the most compelling reason that I have ever heard to vote. Bush vs Gore was won by a slim margin, yes, but not slim enough for me to actually make a difference. There are so many people in each state that the odds against such a thing happening aren't worth preparing for.

That's just the thing. My voice isn't heard. I can't help but trust my fellow Americans to vote in a new president; I can't do anything about it.

Just think about voting, you may regret not doing.

You are proceeding under the flawed assumption that voting is in some way connected with the choice of leaders. It is not. I maintain that it would not have made one jot of difference whether Al Gore or GWB won the 2000 election. In a FPTP system like the US the voting portion of the leadership selection system is a rubber stamp which lends a blush of legitimacy to the process - nothing more.

I refuse to demean myself by getting involved with the sham. And I reserve my right to criticize based solely upon that reason. People who actually vote on the other hand have no right to complain whatsoever. They're opinion has already been expressed.

a lot of people talk about how they don't vote because they're single vote won't make a difference, but it does make a difference. The problem is that too many people are saying this, and all the sudden thousands of people aren't making a difference. I'm not sure what the actual number of people eligible to vote that don't vote is, but it's probably pretty big, and if those people did vote it would have an impact. "Every vote counts" isn't just a catchy phrase, it's the truth.

a lot of people talk about how they don't vote because they're single vote won't make a difference, but it does make a difference. The problem is that too many people are saying this, and all the sudden thousands of people aren't making a difference. I'm not sure what the actual number of people eligible to vote that don't vote is, but it's probably pretty big, and if those people did vote it would have an impact. "Every vote counts" isn't just a catchy phrase, it's the truth.
Well, I can't speak for all those other people. I can go out and vote, and make no difference, or not vote, and make no difference. I can't control what other voters or non-voters do. If enough people did NOT vote, then I would consider voting, because such a significant decline in voters would mean I would have a chance to make a difference after all. But that hasn't happened, and won't happen. If the 1/2 or so of the voting population that chooses not to vote does vote, my vote will still have a negligible effect.

I'm not American so no chance along with the fact that I won't vote in support of a dictatorship anyway

Absolute monarch Charles 08 :D

a lot of people talk about how they don't vote because they're single vote won't make a difference, but it does make a difference. The problem is that too many people are saying this, and all the sudden thousands of people aren't making a difference. I'm not sure what the actual number of people eligible to vote that don't vote is, but it's probably pretty big, and if those people did vote it would have an impact. "Every vote counts" isn't just a catchy phrase, it's the truth.

You'd think.

But the reality is, no matter how anyone votes in 50 of the 50 states this november, the guidance of regulatory policy for the internet will still be most likely in the hands of a man who thinks it is a "series of tubes" that "get clogged" and doesn't know the word for email.

Once you realize that, the whole voting thing becomes a bit of a farce.

actually, I'd kind of like to see an anarchy in the US in '08. Then after all of us have a good laugh, we can get back to the whole democracy thing in 2012.

Yes, I vote every election cycle. I'll be voting for Jeb. :)


Then you should be disenfranchised! I'm not American but I will be brandishing a meancing fist outside the poll booths and just 'checking' that ppl know how to use the machines properly, It may require me to actually input the information!

I won't. I'm not an American.

Good luck voting out all those incumbents in those gerrymandered congressional seats!

Thank you. This makes my vote count just a tiny bit more.

Actually, no it won't. He lives in Michigan, you live in California, so there is no election where your votes would have any effect on each other's.

I think it's my duty as a wife to vote in the 08 election, you know since my husband is running for local office and stuff, I will probably vote for him. ;) (if he is better than the other candidate or whatever)

as far as the presidential elections? I most usually vote in the primary for sure, and half the time I only go to the polls on "election day" to vote for the local stuff going on.

long story short, yeah I will vote.

Liasia']John Stewart *cough*

I should run... but if i can't (which is the case)...


*nods*

You'd think.

But the reality is, no matter how anyone votes in 50 of the 50 states this november, the guidance of regulatory policy for the internet will still be most likely in the hands of a man who thinks it is a "series of tubes" that "get clogged" and doesn't know the word for email.

Once you realize that, the whole voting thing becomes a bit of a farce.

Go Net Neutrality! I don't want Google getting advantages over me... they have enough. :)

hillary for president

Well, I can't speak for all those other people. I can go out and vote, and make no difference, or not vote, and make no difference. I can't control what other voters or non-voters do. If enough people did NOT vote, then I would consider voting, because such a significant decline in voters would mean I would have a chance to make a difference after all. But that hasn't happened, and won't happen. If the 1/2 or so of the voting population that chooses not to vote does vote, my vote will still have a negligible effect.
the voter turn out around here is less than 40% on most "local" things, and the majority of those voters are in my party, that's where we have the power, the other party around herr whines, but until they get out to the polls I don't know how they expect their candidate to make any headway on getting elected.

For the presidential elections it's close to 45% turn out, but again the majority are in my party.

Your vote alone may not make a huge difference, but you don't just have to vote, you can volunteer to help "get your people to the polls" like I do, I give old people rides, I help register kids at the local highschool (the ones of age), I walk door to door letting people know when the election is and giving them information. My vote may not count for much, but at least I am doing something.

No, but I'll vote in 012. I'm only thirteen. That's underage.

Don't be surprised, but I'll proabably still be too drunk to vote.

I mean for the US presidential elections. I would definitely take the time to drag my lazy ass out of bed to the nearest polling site if someone like or McCain himself were to run. Other than that, I just don't see the point.
Depends on who the Democrats nominate. The GOP has utterly lost my respect, so I won't be voting for them, and if the Dems nominate somebody worthless then I'm just going to leave the country.

the voter turn out around here is less than 40% on most "local" things, and the majority of those voters are in my party, that's where we have the power, the other party around herr whines, but until they get out to the polls I don't know how they expect their candidate to make any headway on getting elected.

For the presidential elections it's close to 45% turn out, but again the majority are in my party.

Your vote alone may not make a huge difference, but you don't just have to vote, you can volunteer to help "get your people to the polls" like I do, I give old people rides, I help register kids at the local highschool (the ones of age), I walk door to door letting people know when the election is and giving them information. My vote may not count for much, but at least I am doing something.
That's the problem ... if I really want to make an impact one way or another, I need to become active in political demonstrations, campaigns, etc. in order to convince other people to vote my way. It seems foolish to convince other people to simply vote, even if they vote against the candidate I want.

The problem is, I just haven't felt strongly enough about any candidate that I would do that. I don't see the point of going to all that trouble to vote in some idiot.

That's the problem ... if I really want to make an impact one way or another, I need to become active in political demonstrations, campaigns, etc. in order to convince other people to vote my way. It seems foolish to convince other people to simply vote, even if they vote against the candidate I want.

The problem is, I just haven't felt strongly enough about any candidate that I would do that. I don't see the point of going to all that trouble to vote in some idiot.
yeah, but if you really hate everything the idiot running against him stands for, then it's a little easier to spend your time on the campaign trail. :p

Voting is bad. It allows politicians to claim that they have the tacit approval of the general public for their acts of wanton piracy. Also, they like to bang on about something called a 'mandate' so when they fuck up - as they do - they can pretend they had no choice and it is really the fault of the general public.
"Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony."
"Be quiet"
"But you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"

I will just have turned 18, and will vote. Probably Pirate Party US (http://www.pirate-party.us) if they do something meaningful.

Democrat, simply because I abhor the crazies that seem to hijack a perfectly nice party to debate with. :(